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I am not sure what was on the previous version of the article, but the following out of universe information can be added from "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62: the character is voiced by David Kaye. PTOM states that "The Resistance 2 story is all about Nathan Hale and his role in this great conflict." Ted Price, one of the game developers, adds, "Internally we wanted to know more about Hale, and focusing on him provided the opportunity to answer questions about him." Thus, I encourage someone to restore the article and add this information in a manner such as this:

Nathan Hale is the protagonist of the Playstation 3 games Resistance: Fall of Man and its sequel Resistance 2. He is voiced by David Kaye.

Development

Ted Price, one of the game developers, adds, "Internally we wanted to know more about Hale, and focusing on him provided the opportunity to answer questions about him."

Biography

Hale killed practically every chimera in England and then went to America to win again.

Reception

PTOM states that "The Resistance 2 story is all about Nathan Hale and his role in this great conflict." Playstation Universe lists Hale among the top five Playstation 3 characters thus far.

References

1. "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
2. "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
3. "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
4. Dave Wales, "Top five PlayStation 3 characters thus far," Playstation Universe (March 16th, 2008): http://www.psu.com/Top-five-PlayStation-3-characters-thus-far--a0003095-p0.php

Restoration

Nathaniel is a character in Jonathan Stroud's Bartimaeus Trilogy. Nathaniel is one of the main characters of this series. After coming of age as a magician when he was 12 years old, he was granted the new name of John Mandrake, and is known by this name to everyone but the title character, Bartimaeus and in the later part of Ptolemy's Gate to Kitty.

Attributes

Appearance

In The Amulet of Samarkand he is described as being small and scrawny with dark hair. His hair, as he increases in rank, becomes increasingly long, but during the gap between The Golem's Eye and Ptolemy's Gate he has opted for a crew cut in (politically advantageous) tribute to the soldiers fighting in America. He is further described as attractive, with "the scent of power around him" and of medium height and slender build, his forehead prematurely lined (Ptolemy's Gate, U.S. Edition, pg. 21).

Personality

Nathaniel is, at first, a small, shy boy uncomfortable with anyone who is not Mrs. Underwood or Ms. Lutyens. He is very nervous and scared by Bartimaeus when he first summons the demon. As the books progress, and he becomes more and more proficient, he also becomes more confident, and possibly overconfident. He works fervently when motivated, as is shown when he furthers his education with incredible speed in The Amulet of Samarkand. Throughout the books he also shows signs of ambition to rise through the ranks of the government, a common goal among magicians. Bartimaeus compares him more than once to Simon Lovelace, as they share a similar mindset, and habitual tics, such as stroking back their hair.

Role in books

The Amulet of Samarkand

In The Amulet of Samarkand, Nathaniel starts off as a young boy who, at the age of five, had been given up by his parents to apprenticeship under a mediocre Whitehall magician named Arthur Underwood, the assistant minister of Internal Affairs. Underwood begins teaching the boy in magic, but Nathaniel, being inquisitive, decides to advance his education to higher levels without the knowledge of his tutor.

However, at the age of eleven, in his master's house, Nathaniel is publicly humiliated by a greedy and ambitious young magician named Simon Lovelace. In a fit of juvenile fury, Nathaniel hatches a plan for vengeance. He sets several mites (a weak kind of imp) on Lovelace, but Lovelace is powerful and stops the mites, then proceeds to beat Nathaniel as punishment.

Later, after much research and preparation, Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus, a 5,000-year-old djinni, to exact his revenge on Lovelace. Mrs. Underwood - Nathaniel's master's wife - inadvertently reveals Nathaniel's true name to Bartimaeus. This vastly limits Nathaniel's control over the djinni, because spells can be cast on people when their true name is known (hence the practice of assigning names).

In the end, Nathaniel earns the respect of the majority of the other magicians including Rupert Devereaux, the Prime Minister. He is accepted as a magician in the government.

The Golem's Eye

Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus again, facing off against the Resistance and sinister magicians.

The second book picks up almost three years later and features Nathaniel as a junior magician working his way up the government ranks. He is described as one of the governments' rising young stars. In this book, Kitty Jones is introduced as an important character. She is a part of the Resistance movement, which seeks to end the oppressive rule of the magicians. Nathaniel is tasked by his superiors to crush the Resistance movement and capture the members. His task is complicated when a seemingly invulnerable clay golem starts to make random attacks on London. Much to the displeasure of Bartimaeus, Nathaniel recalls the djinni to aid him in uncovering the origins of the golem, and to save his own skin.

During the course of the book Nathaniel is almost fired from his post and executed for treason. By the end of the book however he has come back to favor when Duvall's conspiracy comes to light.

Ptolemy's Gate

In Ptolemy's Gate, Nathaniel has risen to the ruling Council and is arguably the most powerful magician in the government. He stands against a force of hybrid magicians with spirits trapped inside them, led by Nouda. Romantic feelings are hinted at in the book at various points between Kitty and himself. Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus into his body to help fight the Hybrids with Gladstone's staff, and destroys most of them, leaving only Nouda alive. However, during this fight, Nathaniel is seriously injured and he loses strength quickly, even with Bartimaeus' assistance. When Nathaniel and Bartimaeus confront Nouda, Nathaniel dismisses Bartimaeus which saves Baritmaeus just prior to the staff being destroyed killing both Nouda and Nathaniel. Bartimaeus returned to the Other Place, but is known to have survived; according to his "journal", he was summoned by a female magician with a stutter afterwards. Kitty, in the end, goes visit her old friend Jakob before she begins to travel around the world in a new life.

Trivia

• Nathaniel's chosen magician name, John Mandrake, may be a reference to the popular comic strip and real life magician, Mandrake the Magician
• Nathaniel's birthday is on November 26, as confirmed by the author.

External links

• Official website

List of traps

Hi A. I'm not sure whether you saw my edit to User:A Nobody/List of traps in the Saw film series. The info still needs to be worked into the draft. Most of the info probably is in a book or two somewhere. This and this seem to turn up some info. It's hard to figure out the best google search string since "saw" and "trap" are such common words. -- Suntag ☼ 20:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

One thing I am wondering is we should drop "film" from the title, because a video game will be coming out and so we somewhat augment the notability of the list by indicating that it concerns an aspect of fiction that transcends just films. Best, --A Nobody 20:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't recall what they call it when they expand out from just films. It might be media empire (List of traps in the Saw media empire or List of traps in the Saw media). -- Suntag ☼ 12:47, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe "franchise"? Sincerely, --A Nobody 16:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

RfA

Heavens above and my goodness A Nobody, I am astonished. My comments begin "Could the opposers...", and therefore there is obviously, blatantly and explicitly no reference to you. It matters not a whit to me, but, for the avoidance of any thoughts of mockery or joviality among less kindly-minded editors, which is clearly our highest priority, you may (or may not - the choice is indeed yours) wish to remove or refactor your latest comments. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 22:09, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Alasdair, having your post below my oppose rather than below one of the two opposes it seems to refer to just seems out of place. Best, --A Nobody 22:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't matter that much. a) this is only a website; b) not many people read these things; c) this RfA is going to go through virtually unopposed d) if they come for you, I will zap them by methods known to me but as yet undeclared to the general public. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 22:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. Take care. Sincerely, --A Nobody 22:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Remember, although you may not realise it, I will always be by your side. Like a guardian angel. With my zapper. Be alert though. It's a jungle out there :-) AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 22:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay; have a nice night! Sincerely, --A Nobody 07:09, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

TTN RfAr

Thanks for the heads up. That's definitely a discussion I need to read and comment on. I never got around to actually filing an RFC, but now that the Arbcom's attention is raised I might as well share my concerns there. - Mgm| 11:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I think the two things that bug me the most about his nominations in my capacity as an article rescuer are 1) too many for us to try to rescue at a time; we don't have a deadline so what's the rush? and 2) the copy and paste nominations that don't take into account individual article merits. In Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Eddie Quist, the whole not covered in real world reliable sources claim he always uses just was not true as quick searches on Google Books and Amazon.com shows. Now some of the times his nomination does make sense in that I am unable to find sources, which is why I do not comment in every AfD he starts and nor do I tag every one for rescue as not all of them can be rescued, but a good deal can be and when they have the same worded nomination as those that can't it suggests either an indiscriminate approach to nominations, lack of checking for sources, or something not good. And if he's after merging and redirecting, why not at least try to get a consensus elsewhere? He nominated a slew of the characters from the Underworld movies with wildly diverse referencing potential and notability again with the same cookie cutter nomination, but as seen at User_talk:A_Nobody/Archive_3#Clarification, I and another user who is far more apt to agree with him than I am were willing to work together to merge the articles to a list which we are still working on in my userspace. We can compromise and work colloboratively on these things, and I really hope he can see that and join us as it were. I do not think every fictional character article should be kept or even merged (see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Tony Cunningham (Tony & Friends)) and I think it would be encouraging if just as you and I can occasionally argue to delete, he would occasionally argue to keep. Best, --A Nobody 17:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Break

Hello,

There were several projects I intended to work on that would take hundreds of hours, the largest of which was an expansion of college basketball Missouri Valley Conference team and team season pages. All projects were stifled by overzealous administrators that have made it quite clear that, one way or another, they will band together to delete these articles. They have even expressed that they want to delete season articles that were featured on Misplaced Pages's front page. The other projects have been halted by similar issues. I have no confidence that my contributions will remain on this site after two years. I've given this site almost two years to change for the better, but it has failed to budge an inch.

I wish the best of luck on fighting against this encyclopedia's downward spiral, but I just need to move on to better things.

Thanks Vodello (talk) 22:53, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I appreciated your efforts and if anything perhaps the thread above this one is encouraging, no? Take care! Sincerely, --A Nobody 01:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Token AFDs

AN, I'll be blunt. Everyone knows you're a strong inclusionist. Trouting out two AFDs as evidence of your willingness to argue for deletion is unlikely to change others' minds. Relevant diffs are always more persuasive than responding to ad hominem, which is best ignored.--chaser - t 09:37, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, seeing the edit summaries of "gah," "silly oppose," "gag," etc. regarding comments to various editors is a bit uncalled for. Best, --A Nobody 16:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Based on that response I have no idea whether you even read what I wrote.--chaser - t 18:14, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree that rather than "responding" to "ad hominem", maybe I should just "ignore" it in the future. Cheers! --A Nobody 17:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks.--chaser - t 01:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. Sincerely, --A Nobody 16:32, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Tim Carney

Thanks. I was not online the last five days. I closed the AfD just now. Remember that you can always be bold and perform a non-admin closure. You are becoming an experienced editor and you are able in performing these actions. Btw, how the list of Underworld characters going? I won't be online a lit until New Year's Eve. At some point in January we can improve the article a lot and move it in the mainspace. Merry Christmas! -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:41, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Have a nice holiday break and we can pick up on the Underworld characters when you get back. Best, --A Nobody 17:38, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I saw three ships come sailing in...

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Thanks and same to you! Sincerely, --A Nobody 22:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks, but you used the IP welcome above. When welcoming registered users use {{subst:welcome|83.67.39.175}} instead. Best, --A Nobody 16:31, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, welcome! I hope you decide to stay. Happy Holidays Nobody. Enjoy the rest of 2008 and I hope you kick of 2009 in good health and good cheer. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:41, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Same to you! Sincerely, --A Nobody 02:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

And now, for Fvasconcellos' traditional nonsectarian holiday greeting!

Wherever you are, and whether you're celebrating something or not, there is always a reason to spread the holiday spirit! So, may you have a great day, and may all your wishes be fulfilled in 2009! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 13:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Sincerely, --A Nobody 16:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

• a fine Xmas message for all of us to be mindful of.... hehehe. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Indeed. Sincerely, --A Nobody 02:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Thanks, you too! KnightLago (talk) 02:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome! Sincerely, --A Nobody 02:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Same as Knight. :) But seriously, Merry Christmas back at you, and be safe! Cheers, (Ed17) Allanon 02:59, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll do my best; it's so windy here the stupid power went out for nearly three hours this evening. Not off to a good start... Sincerely, --A Nobody 03:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you, too! I hope you enjoy the company of family and friends! —Erik (talk • contrib) 03:04, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

You too. --A Nobody 03:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Same to you, buddy! :) BOZ (talk) 03:04, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --A Nobody 03:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too! Hope you're having more fun than I am. Would you believe I have exams as soon as I get back from holidays? Have a happy 2009! Randomran (talk) 03:06, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Good luck on them! Sincerely, --A Nobody 03:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Merry Christmas

Thank you very much, and to you as well! Cirt (talk) 03:29, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. Take care! Sincerely, --A Nobody 03:30, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Nobody. Your greeting has made my day a little better; thank you. :) I hope you're doing well. Hey, have a good New Year, too. TTYL, WODUP 03:37, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I am happy to read that. Take care! Sincerely, --A Nobody 05:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too! How very kind of you! Thank you! Ffgamera (talk) 08:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome! Sincerely, --A Nobody 15:24, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too! And A Happy New Year! :) The Helpful One 10:39, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks! Sincerely, --A Nobody 15:24, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

While I personally don't celebrate Christmas, may you have a great holiday! Have fun :D -- Ynhockey 11:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Sincerely, --A Nobody 15:24, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!

Thanks a lot for the kind wishes! Hope you have a great Christmas and a happy new year. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 03:38, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome, happy new year as well! I don't know about you, but I for one am looking forward to Guitar_hero_metallica#Soundtrack in '09... Sincerely, --A Nobody 05:56, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Chistmas, too, A Somebody. =) Have a fruitful Wiki2009. --Efe (talk) 08:34, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas to you and your family and friends, A NobodyMy talk. Fairfieldfencer FFF

Happy Easter!

Hello, I'm the Easter Bunny and I would like to give you this wonderful basket of festively coloured eggs to celebrate...oh, wrong holiday. Hmmm. Well, let's reconnect in April. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 13:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Winter Holiday

Hope you have a wonderful winter holiday. — Realist 16:25, 25 December 2008 (UTC)