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HA! Well done uptight censors, you've failed again. I'm glad wikipedia evidently favour the collection of knowledge over pandering to a minority's pathetic over-sensitivity. Anyoen know what grounds they tried to get it deleted on?

uh, what's crapcore and why is it in here? --Evesummernight 17:00, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

• These guys sound great! Cheese Sandwich 02:25, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Genre

I was reading all the bickering about genres below so I asked my husband, Seth Putnam, what genre he would put AxCx into, to which he replied, "Anal Cunt started as a blurcore (a term I made up years before AxCx was around) band, then over the years we turned into a fast hardcore band. The term grindcore is totally gay. Nit-picking about genre terms is totally gay also." Mrs. FactFinder (talk) 05:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately bands and band members are not reliable sources regarding the genres of their own bands; this is particularly obvious in this case, as the term was invented by Seth himself. This might sound a bit counter-intuitive, but it is basically becase Misplaced Pages is interested in verifiability not truth. Anyone could make up a term for their own music (I've seen bands making up things like "razorgrind" etc.), but that doesn't make the terms notable or a legitimate genre. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 14:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

AC isn't a grindcore band. Their vocals don't fit the grindcore bill, there is no death metal influence in their music, and there aren't enough drastic tempo changes. They are much more akin to Dropdead or Siege or other power violence bands than to grindcore acts such as Napalm Death. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.60.43 (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It entirely depends on what you can source; opinion is not important. I don't think there's any need for death metal influences in grind, but if you can find me a reliable source saying otherwise, then that should certainly be taken over to the grindcore page. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 18:38, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

youre right, theyre early shit is noisegrind, later stuff is more grindcore there should be no death metal influences in death metal youre probably thinkin of napalm deaths metal period Axcxrule91 (talk) 01:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Grindcore is a punk genre, not metal. Later a genre came about called "technical grindcore" which is metalcore influenced grindcore and that can be said to be a metal & crossover influenced genre, but originally grindcore was sloppy, DIY extreme punk. Technical grindcore emphasized playing ability, the antithesis of the earliest grindcore which emphasized a punk mentality and aesthetic (like Carcass, Electro Hippies, etc). 67.5.157.83 (talk) 09:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Irony/Serious?

Are they just being űber ironic, or are they seriously this fucking weird? I mean, I know that lots of bands write ironic songs ("Kill The Poor" by Dead Kennedys, for example), so, are these guys just taking that a step further, for shock value and pure outrageousness, or are they really homophobic dinks?

I think you're reading too much into it man. I don't pretend to know what the guys in the band really intended, but i'm pretty sure it's just supposed to be funny. I mean, 'Your Kid Committed Suicide Because You Suck'??? I'm sorry, but that's funny. it's supposed to make you laugh.Vance trrriplehorn 23:31, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

How can you possibly think that's funny? This sounds like the worst band that has ever existed and I can't believe that people actually like it. Death loving satanists... I propose this article be deleted immediately.

Your accusations are virtually groundless. They are not 'the worst band that has ever existed', since that is a PERSONAL OPINION that has no place in a damned encyclopedia. Secondly, they're not 'Satanists', Satanism implies the belief in and worshipping of either the Christian entity of Satan, the views and morales of LaVeyen Satanists, or the various hodgepodge cults that refer to themselves as 'Satanists'. Anal Cunt do not fit either of these descriptions, and are thus, not Satanists. They already tried to delete this article once, it failed. So get down off your pompous throne and accept the fact that the world is not as pretty and wholesome as you think. We need offensive culture in order to develope our own opinions. Without offensive rebellion, we would not have the great works of art, nor the cultural monuments we have. And while Anal Cunt are certainly no work of art, they're a credible musical group with an impressive discography, and we should not chastise them on the basis of their lyrical content. I find overtly Christian bands who encourage violence against non-Chrisitans offensive, but do you see me running around bitching about it? NO! So shut up and go eat some Prozac or something. Deadcrowisland (talk) 20:52, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, you could read an interview from around the time It Just Gets Worse came out and draw your own conclusion. Seth Putnam admits to being "totally drunk" during the interview, though, so who knows... Slicing 22:33, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

And here's another one from 1997 where he comes across completely differently, and even explains their usage of the word "gay" Slicing 08:09, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I'd say its for shock value.

id say serious becuase i mean if they were kidding like GWAR they would come out and say it was a Satire like GWAR

They don't say it because that takes the fun out of it. Internet trolls don't tell everyone that they're trolls and that they're acting like complete jackasses just for a laugh, because then everyone would know.

Ok, you say they aren't the "worst band in the world"? Well guess what! Thats what they call themselves! Discuss. —π₰₯ ĬLʡ$Φǚɭђµπt₴ŗ ₯₰π 10:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Metal?

Why are these guys considered metal? Noisecore is not metal. It's just noise.--SonicTailsKnuckles 19:51, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

They're not noisecore, they're considered grindcore, and are therefore considered metal. DeadcrowIsland 05:02. 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Grindcore is not metal. It is an extreme form of hardcore punk.

Well, it has its roots in both metal and in punk. There are some more punk-oriented grind bands, and some more metal-oriented bands.

Grindcore is somewhat influenced by Metal, but to call it a Metal sub-genre would be extremely inaccurate. Either way, Anal Cunt aren't a Metal band whatsoever. X-pert74 01:22, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Why doesn't any body believe that they are serious and that they are messing with you by thinking they are fakes and also to say that they live normal lives is stupid. The only way Seth Putnam lives an ordinary life is if drug overdoses happen to everyone. This band means every word they say. They mean every single word they say and get a kick out of watching you guys argue about it. I have talked to Seth I know.

A comment

anal cunt: 1, christian would-be wikipedia-censors: 0 - This comment was added by anon IP 69.250.94.172 on 24 May 2006 following the 'keep' consensus on AfD. What is the use of this group? There is no scence in their existence and in their songs, but they are really cool!

The name comes from a GG Allen song, "anal cunt".

Actually, GG Allin got the name for that song from AC

titles

I love that Carcass spoof "Abomination of Unnecessarily Augmented Composition Monikers". Better yet is "I Snuck A Retard Into A Spermbank". Ha ha

Copyright Violation? wot?

The least you could do is clarify what/where the "Relapse" page is. That tag is a completley blown up over-reaction to something so small imho. --80.227.58.13 19:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Wtf? There is nothing on this Talk Page to explain the copyright violation notice. $10 says someone thought they'd get a cheap thrill by putting it up. WepV 16:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

http://www.relapse.com/artist/artist.aspx?ArtistID=10007

^ The relapse page whose contents match this one almost verbatum.

Deletion

Who deleted the page, and why? The previous discussion ended with a decision to keep the article.

Who keeps deleting the important Anal Cunt tribute band paragraph? it's important that the world knows that "On 7 September 2008, EM and Mickmox (fomer Grunt Truck guitarist and vocalist) formed an Anal Cunt tribute band called Arse Minge, playing Anal Cunt's hits on a Spanish guitar and a lute in a very conservative style. When playing private gigs for their parents, they go under the moniker "Bum Peewee", and when playing before mixed US and British audiences, to give the fans a Transatlantic linguistic joke, they call themselves "Fanny Fanny". Their debut EP, to be released on Earache in the October 2008 is called 'Big Anal Cunt Right Up Your Anal Cunt, ALL The Hits of Anal Cunt', and is likely to be a big seller. There will follow a small world tour, ending at Wansted Town Hall in early 2009."

The goddam straights who can't cope with this, and are out there to sensor any info they can't handle should f off and get a damn life, man.

Where next?

I think they'd be funnier (and more offensive) if they did a pop album, because of the mismatch between form and content. Chris Henniker 03:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Haha dude they totally did. Its called picnic of love. Its awesome. 75.163.135.192 (talk) 23:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC) 'GREATEST GRINDCORE BAND EVER - FODAL'- what does this mean at the top...also does anyone know what label they are with now? and i think they have released some stuff scince 2001

Yeah, they're on Menace to Sobriety records.

Isn't the band From Boston and not Alaska?

Make a song called "Misplaced Pages sucks." And "Gangsta High School Kids Can Lick My Sack."

Name Dropped

Should name dropped bands be added to the page or let out. Some bands name dropped have been Korn in "You Rollerblading Faggot" and Marilyn Manson "You Robbed A Sperm Bank Because You're A Cum Guzzling Fag". So would this count as ridicule or just a simple name drop.

Don't they use it like "you suck because you listen to Korn"? If so I would say that counts as ridicule Seizurebot1011 22:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Connor Clapton (etc)

Is that deliberate or a typo? The real son of Eric Clapton had only one N in his forename. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.146.233.89 (talk) 01:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Noisegrind

Find a reliable source for this as a reference, or please stop editing this article to replace grindcore with noisegrind. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 01:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

REPLY: and find a reliable source for anal cunt being a grindcore. you're just denying existence of genre 'noisecore'. thought anal cunt is known to be 'inventors' of it. there are some differences between noisecore and grindcore, u know? anyway, there is even 'nosiecore' tag in first sentence of article... 213.199.204.178 (talk) 10:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Their early material contained no written lyrics???

This sentence makes no sense. I'd edit it, but I don't actually understand what the author is trying to convey - did they have "unwritten" lyrics? Or no lyrics at all? 89.242.88.175 (talk) 22:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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