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Jingisukan

The song is clearly meant to spread the joy of Jingisukan to the world. Are you suggesting that someone has violated a copyright to post the video on youtube? Have you contacted the copyright holder to apprise them of this situation and to inquire whether their joyous song is meant to be shared? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a statement of the authors about their intentions, or is this just your personal speculation? As of WP:BURDEN, it is your job to provide such evidence, not mine. --Latebird (talk) 00:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not hosting the song. So if you suspect a copyright violation and are concerned I think it is incumbent on you take appropriate action and notify the persons involved. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:42, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Please study WP:ELNEVER very carefully. I've pointed it out to you before. --Latebird (talk) 09:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

It says "Knowingly directing others to material that violates copyright may be considered contributory infringement". I don't think that song is a copyright violation. Do you? Why? I think you should look into it. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Latebird! Thank you for your (comparatively) kind comment here... Actually, I have worked on Franco-Mongol stuff pretty much the same way I work on other subjects: I take a subject matter and try to document it as encyclopedically and in as much referenced detail as I can. That's not to say that the subject itself is especially significant historically: sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. One could argue that Hasekura Tsunenaga, another of the articles I created, is insignificant historically, but he is nonetheless so fascinating. You mention "perspective", but I'm certainly not trying to change historical perspective here: actually I think the Franco-Mongol alliance was rather insignificant and had almost no effect historically... but it is so fascinating nonetheless as an example of cultural interaction. I am not trying to "rewrite" history at all, but only to shed light on a rather dark corner of history. To me it is one of the beauty of a paperless encyclopedia that we can go into such detail for even very narrow subjects. Cheers PHG (talk) 18:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

PHG ArbCom request

I've posted a request for possible additional evidence at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration/PHG/Evidence. Cool Hand Luke 18:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Inapropriate links???

Hi Latebird. I don't know which links are you talking about. If you mean the links of the miss world contestants, I think they make sense. If someone is looking for information of a Miss World contestant, he/she probably wants to see photos of her, and particularly photos of her in the Miss World competition. I have contributed with photos of all the participants of 2007 and 2008 to wikipedia. I have created the individual pages for most of the girls in 2008 and 2007. I don't make any profit with my website, I don't sell pictures. I actually provide the pictures free to any contestant that contacts me. I have a job as software developer, and I do the photography as a hobby. I can't see what is wrong with publishing photos of the girls in wikipedia, and linking to my site if the person wants to see more photos. Rosengurtt talk 19:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Please read WP:COI and WP:EL#ADV very carefully. You must never add links to your own site(s) to Misplaced Pages, because you are inherently biased to overestimate its usefulness. If it's really happens to be useful, then other people will add the links over time, and with a lot more credibility. --Latebird (talk) 00:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Byambyn Rinchen

Hi Latebird! I've just created an article on Rinchen, but I would prefer to have the picture that is in the Russian language article. Could you do me a favour and import it? G Purevdorj (talk) 11:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

That image on ruwiki seems to exist under a "fair use" clause. Since we already have an alternative one from the Commons, that isn't really an option here. Or is there evidence that it was created before 1972? Actually, the other one is also on thin ice in that regard... --Latebird (talk) 13:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

PHG case

I did a short review of some of your evidence at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration/PHG/Evidence#Other evidence. Also note that I've posted a proposed decision, which is now in voting. Cool Hand Luke 16:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Your stubborness

Sorry but it has to be said from what I've seen of you Latebird, you are undoubtedly one of the most stubborn people I;ve ever encountered in my life. The word "fuddy duddy" springs to mind. User:Rarelibra has made a massive contribution to maps on wikipedia which generally look accurate and are of great importance on here. I do hope you have not scared him away from this site permanently with your response to him. You've let something you disagreed on with Mongolia affect the world contributions of an editor who is greatly needed on here. I;ve tried to reason with you in the past about opening up and allowing the Central Asian countries to have some sort of assessment too but you are too stubborn to "allow" us to try to improve coordination of this area. WHile seperate wikiporjects as yet may not be reasonable given the lack of major contributors, having a better assessment set up is greatly needed. Please be careful with the way you treat other editors in the future as some of them may be more valuable to the project than you might think. Dr. Blofeld 13:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Now if you cared to inform me what you're actually talking about, that would be most helpful. --Latebird (talk) 13:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Your disagreement with Rarelibra. I;m not saying there aren't two sides to every story but think of it like this, the guy is a professional map maker, he is a cartographer for a living. Telling him his maps are inaccurate, basically rubbish and representing false information is probably one of the hardest insults you can give him. If people are considering his maps inaccurate then he is going to think twice about creating anymore in case they are rejected. Naturally we want all maps to be as accurate as possible but were his maps really all that inaccurate?Were they really that bad? Could you provide an example and I might understand your side of it a little more. In my view district maps don't have to be 100% precise, I appreciate any maps of internal divisions which roughly help the reader if they didn't exist before. I just think you were a little harsh with him thats all, and am concerned he has not actively edited wiki since in two months. Dr. Blofeld 13:50, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

You don't really think that I was the agressive one in that discussion, do you? Unfortunately, the maps in question are full of very fundamental errors, and I see no good way to sugar-coat that. As far as I remember, only two of them even show the right number of sums. All interested parties (including him) have known this for a long time, related discussions go back about two years. After all, that was the primary reason why Bogomolov created the replacements currently in use. You can pick almost any pair between them for comparison to understand the problem. If Rarelibra is really unable to accept such straightforward and factual criticism, then I'll have to refuse responsibility for that. --Latebird (talk) 14:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Nope, indeed you seemed the calmer. I wonder what he was using to make so many errors.... Anyway thanks, I can see that it is more than just one or two that had faults and you were right to identify them. Dr. Blofeld 16:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

He mentioned at one time that he only had a small and unclear map, and needed to make many guesses about what it really meant to show.

Btw.: What does all of this have to do with article assessment? And on that topic, do you remember this little conversation we had a while ago? Such things are really up to the workgroup to decide, not me. --Latebird (talk) 17:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Please help with Mongol/Tatar invasions articles

Can you please discuss/help, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Mongol_Empire#Excellent_article_and_general_mongol_invasion_conquest_articles 97.118.116.250 (talk) 12:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of "Mongolia under Tang rule"

Hallo Latebird! Bitte schreib deine Meinung zu Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Mongolia_during_Tang_rule#Mongolia_during_Tang_rule! Ich halte die Löschung für unbedingt erforderlich, aber du kannst dir den Artikel und die Argumente ja selbst ankucken. G Purevdorj (talk) 09:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)