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I know Charles Hoelzel personally, he and I graduated from BUD/S class 117 together, that article you refer too from the USA Today was wrong, the reporter never interviewed Chuck face to face he only interviewed John Andretti, My name is Bob McMeans and Chuck and I served together with ST2,ST6 then onto DEVGRU. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | I know Charles Hoelzel personally, he and I graduated from BUD/S class 117 together, that article you refer too from the USA Today was wrong, the reporter never interviewed Chuck face to face he only interviewed John Andretti, My name is Bob McMeans and Chuck and I served together with ST2,ST6 then onto DEVGRU. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
You are a complete idiot, you are trying to ruin the reputation of a man who served his country faithfully for over 20 years, it is apparent that that THE AUTHENTICATOR IS WRONG, Charles graduated with me you peanut headed ass, and class 117 did graduate in September of 82, it is apparent you believe everything you read, That article which was written on him was not only quoted as he said this or that, he did not, as a matter of fact do some fact checking, he sued the paper for misrepresentation, because he refused to speak with them on any subject, so they spoke with Jon Andretti who said a load of bullshit. The sad part is Chuck does not no anything about any of your antics or even being on Misplaced Pages and now you because of you he is on a phonies board. That is disgraceful and so are you. Get your facts right, you fucking idiot. | |||
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Notable SEAL
Stop Removing Charles Hoelzel As a Notable SEAL He is a Navy Cross Recipient and has earned the right to be considered a Notable SEAL, He also is enshrined at the UDT/SEAL museum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nec532x (talk • contribs) 19:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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I have nothing against the Biden family except he was a Draft Dodger that let some other less eligible, less qualified and probably less educated individual go to Vietnam in his place. He did everything short of maiming himself to dodge the draft and, if he hadn't been able to get a letter from his family physician "discovering" a disqualifying "illness" and made a big enough issue of it to get his induction cancelled, he might have tried maiming but I doubt he had the guts. As a draftee from Scranton, PA, I have a little experience with how the draft worked and how physicals were conducted. Joe would have had to have made quite a stink to beat it. I took Joe's place in Vietnam and ended up serving an extended tour to make up for him not going!
As for Beau, the entry on his page is INCORRECT but I notice you did not comment about that. Here is the truth: Beau Biden's unit did not arrive in Iraq in Nov 08, they arrive on 22 Dec 08, according to the Delaware National Guard official website (http://www.delawarenationalguard.com/home/new/content/dngnews/2008/Dec/261st/2008decDJvolume2.pdf ). He did come back TDY on 13 Jan 09, 22 days later according to Lt. Col. Len Gratteri, a Delaware Army National Guard spokesman. He said "CPT Beau Biden began a temporary assignment at the Pentagon on Thursday,15 Jan. Details about the assignment or how long it will last weren't immediately available" (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iSHFhLebRKfuSV_xdz1v...cY2sQD9 ). Without Dad's help, he (and any other soldier) would not have been eligible for leave until midpoint of his tour. In Vietnam when someone had only been in Country 22 days we used to say he was "still pissing Stateside water!"
Regardless, he did NOT come back on leave, he returned TDY which meant he flew back on "duty status" so had priority and bumped a soldier returning on R&R who would have been in-country between 6 and 7 months. Nice move Beau! —Preceding unsigned comment added by The-Expose-inator (talk • contribs) 04:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Notable SEAL
I know Charles Hoelzel personally, he and I graduated from BUD/S class 117 together, that article you refer too from the USA Today was wrong, the reporter never interviewed Chuck face to face he only interviewed John Andretti, My name is Bob McMeans and Chuck and I served together with ST2,ST6 then onto DEVGRU. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nec532x (talk • contribs) 19:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
You are a complete idiot, you are trying to ruin the reputation of a man who served his country faithfully for over 20 years, it is apparent that that THE AUTHENTICATOR IS WRONG, Charles graduated with me you peanut headed ass, and class 117 did graduate in September of 82, it is apparent you believe everything you read, That article which was written on him was not only quoted as he said this or that, he did not, as a matter of fact do some fact checking, he sued the paper for misrepresentation, because he refused to speak with them on any subject, so they spoke with Jon Andretti who said a load of bullshit. The sad part is Chuck does not no anything about any of your antics or even being on Misplaced Pages and now you because of you he is on a phonies board. That is disgraceful and so are you. Get your facts right, you fucking idiot.
Bob McMeans