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This must be what it feels like to be an Islanders' fan! If the Steelers weren't still in it I'd be going crazy. blackngold29 04:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

It would appear that the players are trying to get rid of him; there's definately something going on. If they are, they're certainly doing a good job. I just hope the don't do too good of a job and ruin the season. Have fun at the game! blackngold29 04:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

The rumors have certainly been flying, but that's the first name I've heard. That'll throw a nice wrench into List of Pittsburgh Penguins head coaches, which I was going to nom for FLC soon... hmmm, howabout this for an interesting fact, from Pat Quinn (ice hockey): "Quinn became an assistant coach for the Philadelphia Flyers in 1977 under Fred Shero" as in Ray Shero's father. That's kinda neat. The only thing he seems to lack is a Cup. blackngold29 23:49, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh man, a Jagr comeback would be crazy! He kind of came off like a jerk when he left, but I'd definately love to see him back. blackngold29 06:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

They really dominated, and in front of 19,000+ who can't come up with anything more original than "Crosby sucks" to chant. Those points were big, but tomorrow is bigger because we have to keep it rolling... oh yeah, there's some Ovechkin guy involved too. blackngold29 04:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm leaning toward the "just with the Pens" option; do you know if it's been discussed at WP:HOCKEY? Not that I'm thinking too much about the Pens right now... WHOOOO! blackngold29 05:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I miss one game to watch Lost and they kill them? What's up with that! blackngold29 15:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Well I guess that's that with Therrien. There's not much hope left for the playoffs, but there's some. Good video on the new Bucs's pitchers, I'll try to work on their articles some, sooner or later they're gonna make it up to the bigs. blackngold29 02:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Should we record Crosby's 250th career assist or just go by every 100? Great game, I want to see a Crosby vs. Ovie fight tomorrow, lol. blackngold29 01:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

For what we're giving up (which is different according to the Pens site "If the Penguins make the playoffs, it will be a fourth-round pick. If the Penguins win a playoff round and Guerin plays in 50 percent of the games, it will be a third-round pick.") it seems pretty good. Any idea how long his contract is? Not sure what they're thinking to do with Satan, just keep him around in case of injury I suppose, because he's a Free Agent after this season. I certainly bet Guerin is happy to get out of NY. blackngold29 23:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem, that new cite is better anyway. blackngold29 02:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK problem

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It's a fact, not an opinion

On my talk page, you just wrote, "And please stop edit warring your opinion into the articles, again."

You are wrong.

It is a fact, not an "opinion," that Obama signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 less than five days after Congress voted for it. Grundle2600 (talk) 00:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It's your opinion that he "broke his promise". Grsz 00:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It's a fact that he promised to wait 5 days until signing any bills. It's also a fact that he only waited 4 days to sign it. Grundle2600 (talk) 01:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

If this bill is an emergency, then why did he take a vacation and wait 4 days to sign it? Grundle2600 (talk) 02:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Vacation? You mean to Colorado? Where he signed it? Or maybe it was those days for the public to see it you pointed out? Grsz 02:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thanks for your support in my RfA, which closed with 83 ayes to the right, one no to left and five abstaining users! Sabre (talk) 21:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Bailout mentality

Hi.

Recently, someone else also nominated Bailout mentality for deletion, and I did not object. But later, someone else objected, and they stopped it from being deleted. You can delete it if you want - it's one of the worst articles I ever wrote. I had thought the term might gain more widespread usage, but I turned out to be wrong. Grundle2600 (talk) 21:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Ha ha! I now see it was you who nominated it last time too. Well, better luck this time! I won't object. Grundle2600 (talk) 21:55, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Timo Pielmeier

I brought the question to WP:HOCKEY/TALK to inquire about him. I would think that his playing in the DEL would have been brought up as a claim for his notability when the original AFD was being discussed, but it was not. I'll gladly hold off until that query is answered. -Pparazorback (talk) 23:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Eileen Gilsan

Why did you want to delete? She meets WP:PROF on the basis of her elected national role in the organization. Please reply on my talk p., not here. 19:13, 19 February 2009 (UTC)DGG (talk)

DYK for Carnegie Library of Homestead

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Idlewild

As long as the source of the figure is given, it should be fine. The hardest part is deciding where to put it. I would try to work it into the section on the recent sale. Giants2008 (17-14) 19:08, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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W-B/S

It says the feature is now discontinued. RandySavageFTW (talk) 01:59, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

User talk:71.114.8.82

I'd like your opinion on 71.114.8.82 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), since I see that you reverted his rant once after I had done it twice already. That is, is there any problem with continually reverting his soapboxing? Normally I don't mess with stuff like that, but the ACORN stuff strikes me as a potential BLP violation, and as such, 3RR would not apply. What say you? Baseball Bugs 07:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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Talkback

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This was wrong

This page is not nonsense. It says what volcano monitoring is and had an {{underconstruction}} tag on it. The Bobby Jindal thing is removable but still. Tombomp (talk/contribs) 19:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

No, it's nonsense. Grsz 19:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

The nonsense tag should only be used on a "page that is patent nonsense, consisting purely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history". This article is none of these things. A cursory google shows the existence of volcano monitoring. Tombomp (talk/contribs) 19:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

It was the wrong tag, but the page was by definition, nonsense. {{db-attack}} would probably have been better. The page wasn't intended to discuss actual volcanic monitoring, it was nonsense. Grsz 19:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

You're right. It's nonsense. Maybe not totally nonsense. It appears to be some kind of "in joke". But from the standpoint of wikipedia, it's nonsense. Baseball Bugs 23:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Indiana County Courthouse

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Bilateral relations

If you're going to take them to AFD, please don't do a batch nomination. While some bilateral relations aren't notable, most are, and mixing them together is unpleasant (there was the Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Argentina–Singapore relations not too long ago, and it was very clear to me that if two countries exchange embassies, they'll have notable bilateral relations. If not, maybe not, though in many cases yes (i.e. Israel-Arab Country pairs or North Korea-South Korea or such)). So if you want to go that way, please do one article = one discussion, and not 2800 articles nom'd the same day (I'll wear out my googles). Cheers, WilyD 00:16, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

While I disagree and would argue that they can be grouped, I don't plan on opening AFDs. Grsz 00:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you're not planning to, I suppose it don't matter much, but the grouping above certainly seemed to be a mistake, as some articles (like Ethiopia–Ireland relations were very notable, while even the titular one may not have been.) Makes sensible discussion impossible. WilyD 00:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Argentina–Holy See relations

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Image deletion

Hey Peripitus, I was wondering how the FfD for Misplaced Pages:Files_for_deletion/2009_February_28#Idlewild_depot.jpg when there were 3 keeps and 3 deletes? It doesn't appear that there was any consensus to delete. User:Jappalang is very active in image-checking and supported my argument for fair-use. Grsz 03:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

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Congratulations

Congrats on the FA star for Idlewild and Soak Zone. I know you worked hard on this, and I'm glad to see it finally made it. Kudos. Finetooth (talk) 23:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I thought I was doomed by image deletions. Grsz 23:16, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

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User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle/Nominations

Please remove the numbering from your entry, and trim it to one selection per DYK/GA/FC line. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 20:08, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Triple Crown

RE:Spencer Steedley

Yes I recently put some information on his page and I was there at both of those highlights of his career and I am his cousin and that stuff is right and I can't figure out why you would delete all of that when it is all true. OK, he wanted me to put that on there so I did for him, and he is wondering why people don't believe any of the stuff I recently put on there.--Lkeever2 (talk) 22:22, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Big East POY

The backbone is there, but it needs some work.

• Lead obviously needs expanded
• Pictures would be nice, shouldn't be too difficult as many went on to the NBA
• All players need a reference
• I would probably rename the "Team" column "School" or "College"
• Rename the "Source" column "Ref" or "References"
• Remove the sort feature from the Ref column
• Sort the players by their last name (See List of Pittsburgh Pirates managers and owners)
• Add this template: {{Big East Men's Basketball Player of the Year}}

That should get you started. I'll add it to my watchlist and let you know if I think of anything else. I think Blair got ripped off this year; but quite a few analysts liked Thabeet, but head-to-head it was no match. blackngold29 05:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

That's one of the best single day article improvments that I've seen. Great job! I guess Pitt wanted the extra days rest for the big tourney. blackngold29 02:03, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think I mind it. As bad as it is to lose in the first round (to WVU no less), they've got a week to get their crap together. Pens-Jackets...much more entertaining. Grsz 02:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Now as far as list prose goes, how much is needed? Is it okay just to say some things about the players or schools like I have so far? Grsz 02:11, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

It also looks like a screwed up the sort function along the way. I'm guessing it's the coloring codes I used. How do I fix that? Grsz 02:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, it's the merged row for the year when they were shared awards. Any clue how to deal with that? Grsz 02:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Length of the lead looks decent, it would probably be good to have it on par with other similar list, but after looking at WP:COLB this might be breaking some new ground. As long as there are no major gaps, and I don't see any, it should be fine. I would move the picture of Chris Mullin up to the lead. As for the sorting, I don't think I've had to vertically merge columns like that before. You might try here (I didn't see anything skimming it, though it might be in there somewhere) and if that fails try User:SRE.K.A.L.24 he's done a ton of sports FLs; if it's not possible, I would just unmerge them. Glad the Pens got atleast one point, though I thought they were gonna pull it out there at the SO. blackngold29 03:19, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

"Colonial Athletic Association Men's Basketball Player of the Year" article?

Hey. I saw what a good job you did to the Big East Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year and I was wondering if you could make the same style of page for the Colonial Athletic Association? I've already made the navbox for the CAA POY (here) but there is no Misplaced Pages page to link it back to a main article. What do you think? Jrcla2 03:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Only problem is I had a heck of a time finding sources for the Big East, I can't imagine CAA would be a walk in the park. If you could find me a group of sources, I don't think it would be a problem to put together sometime next week. Grsz 03:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do and get back to you whenever I get the chance. Thanks. Jrcla2 06:16, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay I found some sources. The most important one is this one, which on pages 11-12 has every POY listed as well as All-Conference selections. Additional websites I found regarding various CAA POYs are: Brett Blizzard; Johnny Newman; David Robinson (1) (2) (3); Jose Juan Barea; George Evans (this is a particularly interesting story). Something of interest is that Odell Hodge won the award in his freshman and senior seasons, but not during his sophomore or junior campaigns (source). It might also be interesting to note that Hodge, Robinson, and Kenny Sanders all established themselves as members of the 2000/1000 club while competing in the CAA. Let me know if you need any further assistance. Jrcla2 19:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

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RE: Barack Obama

Erm... you actually felt the need to pipe to edit warring? And sticking to your "Stephanie Holmes" article is just embarrassing. Ottre 18:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, your response says volumes. Grsz 18:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Pardon me? Ottre 18:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

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Obama Elitism

"Disparage" means the same thing as "said to offend," and does so with less words at a higher lexicon. This isn't worth an edit war, but you should revert your change. Ejnogarb (talk) 17:28, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

No. You were claiming it as a fact, which I fixed to reflect that it was an opinion ... that they were "interpreted as disparaging" comments. Grsz 17:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

"that were interpreted as offending to" is, in fact, worse. Not only is it grammatically incorrect in this context, but it's the worst kind of being overly political correct. Read the article. He was criticized by Democrats and Republicans alike for disparaging small-town Pennsylvanians. Ejnogarb (talk) 17:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Professor Ayers

To say that William Ayers is "Distinguished Professor" hardly expresses a POV; instead, it states the title given to him by his university. -- Hoary (talk) 01:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Not a problem by me, just trying to appease a certain POV-warrior. Perhaps you'll keep an eye on him too? Grsz 01:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

There is no edit war

Please see the discussion page, and accompanying comments with my edit. I'm only trying to improve the article.MrSpammy (talk) 03:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

That doesn't mean it's appropriate. There is no "right" side of an edit war. Grsz 03:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I am contributing to the discussion and added comments to my edits. COSMIC LATTE et al, are editing without discussing or making any attempt whatsoever to refute. Please advise.MrSpammy (talk) 03:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

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