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BASEBALLS BUGS IS AN UGLY IGNORANT FOOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.166.166 (talk) 23:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

You're stupid. Mayallld (talk) 01:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

How about that obviously immature Basebuggs? Tanninglamp 20:03, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Hehhehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe! ROFLMFAO! @ Baseball Bugs. That guy makes the dumbest jokes. You gotta love him for trying though. LMFAO! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! =D Cheers! Cheers dude 05:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Hehehehehehehe! Baseball Bugs is a cutie. 65.31.103.28 05:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

What is your problem? Why are you being a jerk? 69.14.244.157 (talk) 20:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

You sir are an imbecile and a pervert. User:Jimihh aka User:Jimihendd 04:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Have you ever thought of going to a psychiatrist to help cure your paranoias. The last thing you should be thinking of is becoming an Admisitrator! Holy smoke!! --Signbottom (talk) 17:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC) --Signbottom (talk) 17:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Beisból Bugs Been Berry Berry Good 2 me !!

(but Baseball Bugs...) —— Shakescene (talk) 08:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Admisitrator?

For those who may be under the false impression that I'm an admin, I invite you to visit Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Baseball Bugs and witness the carnage. Baseball Bugs 16:28, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Note

It was pretty rough... sorry about that (too). It is a quick way to learn though! Sarah sko1221 05:31, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I meant for you, today... was rough. I can see that you are softer, and i am a bit sharper and both are good outcomes! I salute you. Sarah sko1221 05:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

You already do. And you know, yours might be the first conversation i am going to keep on my page. It makes me happy, thank you! Sarah sko1221 05:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: RfA

Fuck off with your awful puns. :( — neuro 06:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Quite to the contrary, sir/madam/procedure: puck off with your lawful funs. —— Shakescene (talk) 08:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Is that backed up by third party sources? Seems dubious. — neuro 23:54, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Dubious... Do you mean St. Dubious, the patron saint of questionable data? Baseball Bugs carrots 00:04, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Stop trolling. — neuro 00:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeh, I'm under such severe scrutiny now that I can't even troll my own talk page. :'( Baseball Bugs carrots 00:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Damn straight. — neuro 01:06, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Is that one of those scientific, rigorously-controlled, carefully-framed random trolls (like the Gallop Troll or the Field Troll), or just some highly-dubious ask-whoever-walks-in-the-door (or down-the-rabbit-hole) internet trolls?

¶ But if you can't troll your own army of eager readers (en français, «voyeurs»), how can you know what they really think? (short of another RfA, that is...), especially now that the Economic Crisis has forced you (and/or your Evil Twin Identity) to lay off and shut down your entire Complaint Department. —— Shakescene (talk) 04:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Jackal4

FYI, Jackal4 has been blocked for the second time this month -- this time for a 30-day period. See .--Epeefleche (talk) 08:09, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Today's math poser: If they quadruple a block length each time (a week, then a month, etc.), how many blocks will it take until a user is effectively "blocked for life"? Baseball Bugs carrots 15:07, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I guess it depends if they give their age in human or bunny years.  :) Antandrus (talk) 00:42, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, let's see... next would be 4 months; then 16 months; 64 months or 5+ years; 21+ years; 85+ years. So 4 or 5 more blocks should pretty well wrap it up. Reminds me of a story attributed to Commissioner Landis, when he was still a judge. He sentenced a 70-something criminal to a 50-year sentence or some such. The guy said, "I can't serve a sentence like that!" The judge said, "Well, do the best you can!" Baseball Bugs carrots 00:57, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Thank you...

No problem. I don't support RfA candidates very often (you're the second, but I have a third lined up for when/if they decide to stand). My deciding factors are hugely variable - the first candidate I supported because of their timezone! In your case I believe Misplaced Pages benefits from a diverse range of administrators, from humour, and from detailed knowledge of (Misplaced Pages) history.

I actually prefer the US spelling of "honour", etc - I believe Noah Webster's greatest failing was not getting his revised spellings international acceptance. You seem to exemplify the "you" in honour, however...!

Anyway, all the best, and do let me know if/when you decide to endure another RfA (or RfB, or...)

Cheers, This flag once was red_deeds 08:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Jackal4 Sockpuppet?

Important -- I think that Jackal4 created a sockpuppet, which among other things attacked you immediately after you had him blocked. See --Epeefleche (talk) 09:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Could they even be Tecmobowl?--Epeefleche (talk) 10:45, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Certainly a similar "F.U." attitude, but I'm not sure it's the same M.O. The Racing Stripes guy was the third user of a series, that I managed to get the first two blocked strictly due to offensive usernames. I don't see the M.O. as being the same there, but never rule anything out. Baseball Bugs carrots 15:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

What are your thoughts about the "baseball player born outside the US" category that he is introducing?--Epeefleche (talk) 08:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I wonder what the point of it is and how it can be managed. Baseball Bugs carrots 08:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

RFA closing

Why exactly was the RFA closed(as you had a leading margin of support)? Either way, I will support you again, when/if you decide to go up for RFA in the future.WackoJackO 12:23, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, I wouldn't take the criticism there too hard, you did get 90 some support votes. So, a great deal of editors obviously supported your candidacy for admin.WackoJackO 12:26, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

This is an important point: basically, opposers can be put into three categories:

• Those with legitimate concerns (which can be addressed in the coming months);
• Those who were confused by satire (which, again, can be addressed - I have a few ideas which I'd be happy to share if/when you run again);
• Those who won't support you ever, for whatever reason. Some of these are good faith editors, some aren't, but either way there's nothing you can do to win them over.

I'd suggest that groups 1 and 2 combined with supporters could make another run at adminship relatively straightforward.

Cheers, This flag once was red_deeds 12:37, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Many successful admins did not get anywhere near the amount of support you have! And at least one nay vote has now been banned. Do not change for the sake of gaining support from the naysayers -- some were simply using the "any convenient excuse" for opposing when their real reasons may have been more personal. And do not take a left at Albuquerque. Collect (talk) 13:20, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

As you all may notice, I did make some changes to these two pages to try to address some issues raised. I would be glad to entertain additional ideas. I was told that it takes about 70 percent acceptance to be given serious consideration, and I would have had to somehow find about another 25 votes in 2 days without doing any canvassing, so there seemed no point in continuing. Besides, maybe I'll look so much better next time, by comparison. :) I'm also trying to mend some fences. Please note the pleasant exchange I had with sko1221 earlier today. For some, there is no hope - except the possibility that such drama queens will have been indef'd by the time (if any) that I run again. :) You're saying one already has been. That was fast! I'll have to look into that. Baseball Bugs carrots 15:21, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Back in the old days (2007), there used to be votes along the lines of 22-3-1. Usually the only people who showed up for RfA's were a few that seem to troll RfA's to the exclusion of all else on Misplaced Pages, and friends of the candidate. The no-canvassing is bogus...please tell me why, in a supposed democratic encyclopedia, we can't campaign for things. Makes no sense. But we let sockpuppets go. Sheesh. Go Marlins. OrangeMarlin 05:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Nah, the 2008 Marlins were an anomaly. It'll be another Red Sox year if a) Ortiz stays healthy and b) Varitek bats Ortiz' weight rather than his own. We'll make our half of the perfect (Sox/Cubs) series. PhGustaf (talk) 20:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Random comment from Patton123

Hey. If you no longer want to discuss this then just say so and I'll stop. Anyway, I found your "If you want an admin who will kiss up to you, then I'm not your guy, and we're done here." comment rather disturbing. Your definition of "kissing up" seems to be "accepting critism". If you plan to continue editing Misplaced Pages for the forseeable future I suggest you leave your ego behind and try to take to heart comments people make about you ;-). Hard as it is to accept, they're trying to make you a better editor, and would love to see you become a superstar editor who everyone looks up to. I certainly would. Btw sorry for any stress I may have caused you :-).--Patton 15:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I am fully willing to accept criticism. I just won't capitulate to someone who just wants me out of the way on ANI or wherever. Not you specifically, just overall. Like with the very first guy on the Oppose list (no names, though, please). Any constructive comments you have are welcome here. I appreciate your comments above, and welcome more helpful advice. Please note I have already made some changes to the user and talk page to defuse some of those criticisms and/or to make some things clearer. And I have tried to limit my activities on ANI to things I could help with, or possibly inject a little harmless humor (did you notice the one about "sockpippetry" that everyone picked up on?) My door is open any time. :) Baseball Bugs carrots 15:26, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Given your leporid nature, wouldn't that be "My hole is open any time"? And that motto might be even more apt if/when you get wrangled into becoming an admisitraitor. But only if you're willing to accept helpful critisms. arimareiji (talk) 22:05, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

MLB

link Edit summary can be fun — Ched ~ 23:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

link - see, edit summary has its perks ;) — Ched ~ 23:52, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

These got caught in a massive revert war. Baseball Bugs carrots 00:01, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism on that page about the Yankees, yes, but you have to admit the $ signs were on the money. Baseball Bugs carrots 00:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Ahhh .... isn't free agency a wonderful thing? ... lol — Ched ~ 01:04, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Prior to free agency, the Yankees won all the time. Once free agency came along, they won all the time. Free agency had a major impact, for sure. The only thing that really changed was that the prices of tickets, and performance-enhancing drugs, went through the roof. In Babe Ruth's day, his idea of PED's were hot dogs and beer. And he took plenty of them, although those drugs were ingested strictly by mouth. Baseball Bugs carrots 01:52, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Random idea

While in the midst of a debate on whether images in an article were forbidden by policy on trademark, when said images are already 1) blatant original research and 2) add nothing important to the article, it occurred to me that Misplaced Pages might be able to use an essay on "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" Something in the same vein as dead-horse beating, but this behavior is a much more specific strain of pathogen.
Would you think the behavior is common enough that it would be useful to have a WP:THISLOOKSIMPRESSIVE link to it? For that matter, would you know if there's any specific format, style, considerations, etc to keep in mind when writing essays? arimareiji (talk) 21:58, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I had already said they were unneeded, but ran into the Preserve bit that if it is sourceable, it must be used <g>. Hence looking into the legal status of the images - something which is not debatable (except by one person). Collect (talk) 23:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what y'all are talking about, but I have an answer for the "head of a pin" question: The answer is either (1) all of them; or (2) none of them. Baseball Bugs carrots 01:14, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Speaking for myself, I wasn't asking for commentary on the specific debate that put the idea in my head. Rather, 1) do you think a WP:ANGELS essay about not getting in such debates would be good? and 2) any particular advice about essay-writing? arimareiji (talk) 01:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand what the issue is. Baseball Bugs carrots 09:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Trouble brewing

I could see the potential for problems, but it all depends on how it is used. I'd prefer not to pass judgement until he's actually done something. — BQZip01 —  01:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

There's always tomorrow...

I'm really sorry about you not getting adminship, because you're one of the few users around here that I know who truly deserves it. Your RFA was really a carnage, your qualifications were getting ripped apart simply because you have a sense of humor and they expect you to be a stiff robot in order to be a serious admin. If they want to know what a real "dramamonger" is, they should check out this dude. At least you toe the line with your Jon Stewart type of humour, and even when you cross it, you will apologize before push comes to shove.

To cheer you up, Crackthewhip775 has given you a fresh pie! Pies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a piping hot pie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Bon appetit!

Spread the tastiness of pies by adding {{subst:GivePie}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Besides, you look like you need it :). --Whip it! 02:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

A pie! In the face! How thoughtful! :) Well, I didn't ask for the nomination, I merely consented to it. If nothing else, it will probably be awhile before I get nominated again. And in the interim, we'll see how many of the critics get excommunicated. >:) Baseball Bugs carrots 02:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Noah's Ark

There is no unified mythology of Abrahamic religions. However, there are myths associated with the Abrahamic religions and Noah's Ark features in them. Cheers, Ben (talk) 03:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

It's not just Abrahamic is it? I could've sworn I heard the same story w/Gilgamesh. Soxwon (talk) 03:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

See Epic of Gilgamesh. The parallels are noted at the end of this section. Cheers, Ben (talk) 03:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

You've got "myths" but you're linking to "mythology". Silly. Baseball Bugs carrots 04:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't he married to Joan of Arc? Soxwon (talk) 12:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

And their marriage was a Covenant of the Arks. Baseball Bugs carrots 13:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

And Harrison Ford conducted the wedding. Soxwon (talk) 14:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

And mumbled under his breath, as the rains started to fall, "I have a bad feeling about this." Baseball Bugs carrots 14:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Meanwhile, Joan of Arc is typically referred to in French as "Jeanne d'Arc" or some such, roughly pronounced "Zhawn Darc". And that is sometimes mis-translated as... what? Baseball Bugs carrots 14:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

A WITCH! BURN HER! (She turned me into a newt!) Soxwon (talk) 14:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Could be. The one I heard was, "The light's out in the bathroom." Baseball Bugs carrots 14:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Surely you can't be serious. Soxwon (talk) 14:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I am serious, and don't call me Surely. Baseball Bugs carrots 14:55, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I didn't call you surly, I reserve that word to describe Ann Coulter during her time of the month exclusively. Soxwon (talk) 14:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Surely not surly. And I thought Ann was on perpetual PMS. Baseball Bugs carrots 15:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

If by PMS you mean preaches mundane s*** then yes she does. Soxwon (talk) 16:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, at least now she knows how the Democrats felt for 12 years - on the outside, looking in. But the pendulum will swing the other way again eventually. Baseball Bugs carrots 16:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

And with each swing gets closer to slicing us. Soxwon (talk) 16:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

And dicing us. Baseball Bugs carrots 16:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

"If you shoot the pendulum, it stops swinging." --Mao Zedong Plrk (talk) 16:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

"Violence is justified in the service of mankind." --Attila the Hun Baseball Bugs carrots 16:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I love violinse Jack Benny Collect (talk) 16:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Manslaughter is a terrible thing, but womans laughter is even worse. Anon. This flag once was red_deeds 16:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

That was from a pastor who pre-ached on Sunday ... Collect (talk) 16:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I bow to your Collective wisedom. Baseball Bugs carrots 16:42, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Resistance is futile! Plrk (talk) 20:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

And so far, apparently, so are the efforts of the #Texas Rangers. (Do they have a futility infielder?) —— Shakescene (talk) 21:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of File:RipkenCert3000.JPG

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Texas Rangers

Stating facts is not a violation of neutrality on Misplaced Pages, but it is stated in the opening paragraph that the team has had struggles throughtout their history, especially in the playoffs. So why do you have to make a a seperate section for playoff futility when you are basically critizing the team. Ositadinma (talk) 20:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

This probably belongs on Texas Rangers rather than here, but while I think the section and its content should stay, perhaps a less-pejorative heading that still conveys the meaning might fit better. —— Shakescene (talk) 20:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Obama

Your opinions appreciated at User:THF/Obama and User talk:THF/Obama. THF (talk) 23:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Baseball Bugs/hidden

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Did someone take off their shoes? — Ched ~ /_© 03:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, yes, the smell of hosiery. Well, let's just say that when you ask a user some probing questions and their answer is a cluck-clucking "assume good faith" comment, that's usually a red flag. Or a Red Stocking. Baseball Bugs carrots 03:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Another humor-challenged editor. There's actually some useful content on the page, but luckily I have it backed up. Baseball Bugs carrots 04:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

You're perhaps the only one of your furry species to have your own personal spa. The guy came aboard, diddled his user page a bit, and hit you with the MfD right off. I noted that in the appropriate place. PhGustaf (talk) 05:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate that. And it's not even Liebman. Not at this hour. :) Baseball Bugs carrots 05:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Seems like the main effect of the MfD will be that a whole lot more people know about the page. Maybe you should rename it "erstwhilehidden". PhGustaf (talk) 15:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Or "the page formerly known as the hidden page..." Baseball Bugs carrots 16:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

←←It's probably just me, but early in the whole thing (the MfD, not the page itself), I saw the argument of WP:NOHARM; and I'm looking at the page titled "Misplaced Pages:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions", - now I'm wondering if that means we should avoid using NOHARM argument, or the wp:harmless part, because it does no harm to anything - if we are to avoid using the avoid pages (essay I might add, not policy or guideline) - then how does one avoid something we're to avoid .... Oh for heavens sake, will some one please stop me, I'm slipping in to a dark void with flash-backs of a Harry Mudd episode of Star Trek where robots can't figure out what a lie is... — Ched ~ /_© 17:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC) (note: This user knows the essay in question is not referring to user space - this user also fully expects a "Clinton" comment on the "figuring out a lie" part)

"...And God says, 'I hadn't thought of that!', and vanishes in a puff of logic." Baseball Bugs carrots 17:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The NOHARM exception, however, is userspace. Collect (talk) 23:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

In reading that section, coincidentally it suggested part of the answer to another topic. It lists a fictitious user name "Hippocrates2". That's the answer to the question, "What object, and how many of them, did Noah order in order to store the hippos?" Baseball Bugs carrots 23:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

A hippopotami,

cannot get on a bus,

Because a hippopatami's

two hippopotamus.

But hippopotami,

can ride the mythic ark,

if they're stuffed in great big crates

that are extremely dark.

I'll be here all week. PhGustaf (talk) 00:07, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

T'anks, Allan! Baseball Bugs carrots 00:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget to tip your server (preferably landing on the side) Soxwon (talk) 02:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, like cow-tipping? Or tractor-tipping? Or Tippy Canoe? Baseball Bugs carrots 02:59, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

And Tyler Too! Don't even try to sneak that past me ;). Soxwon (talk) 03:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Anyone who comes here is required to have a Hah Tylerence for "corn". Baseball Bugs carrots 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Madoff investment scandal

Hate to be the one to break up the mirth, but was I wrong in trying to cut back the Madoff investment scandal page? It seems like an enormous wad of prose. Soxwon (talk) 03:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The article should summarize the facts, not write a book on the subject. There are lots of folks angry at that guy, and for good reason. Baseball Bugs carrots 03:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but it's swiftly approching 120 KB. Soxwon (talk) 03:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I think that's over the recommended limit. If the facts are all relevant, is there any way to break it up into sub-articles? (FYI, obviously I have not actually read it. I'm trying to steer clear of hot topics.) Baseball Bugs carrots 04:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree with BB. That's a good solution. Its important in breaking it up to not bread off items that are pertinent to the scandal (e.g., access to washington, which was originally broken off).--Epeefleche (talk) 08:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I tried removing unneccessary info, but I was berated for it. Just to give you an idea of how bad it is, they included a blurb on the poet laureate comparing Madoff's predicament to that of Satan in Dante's Divine Comedy. Soxwon (talk) 14:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Did he refer to Madoff being on ice? Collect (talk) 22:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• doubles over in pain from the pun-ishment that he has just received* Soxwon (talk) 22:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Haven't they pointed out the obvious? That "he with billions"? Baseball Bugs carrots 22:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

LetsdrinkTea 02:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

--Yarnalgo _{talk to me} 06:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Regarding ANI

I don't know if it was your goal to become the number 1 contributor to ANI, but wasn't one of the suggestions given to you in your recent RFA to take the page off your watchlist? It's unhealthy to spend so much time there and you needlessly drew out that thread much longer than it had to be for what was essentially a non-issue. –xeno (talk) 15:55, 20 March 2009 (UTC)