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| Both attacks should be connected to the conflicts that are occuring in both regions. Afghanistan war, and Israeli Palestinian conflict. But should they be classified as terrorist incidents? I do not think so. | |||
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{{Editprotected}} Since vandalism occured on this page at the middle of March, and resulted in editors having to step in and semi-protect this page, there has been no activity on this page since the 23rd of March. I was going to register on March 19 2009 but when this page was protected (rightfully) by editors to stop the ongoing vandalism, I waited for a week and have then found other interesting articles to edit. However, I believe this page has gone onto disrepair and I have saved terrorist incidents from March 20 to March 28 and will be willing to post those terrorist incidents.
First thread
Is it not possible that some of the incidents here don't need to be here. There are many every day reporting over a bomb being thrown, whereas if you look at previous years, they are grouped. Take a look at 9/11 for example. Thats all under one bullet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.15.57.146 (talk) 17:05, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
What is criteria for inclusion in this list?
Does a source need to call an act terrorism or is this list based on judgement call according to the definition of terrorism? TIA --Tom 21:36, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- For example: March 10
- Mosul A bomb exploded in Mosul wounding nine civilians including a child.
- I removed this one. --Tom 21:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- What? "gunman threw a hand grenade at a house where a wedding party was taking place in al-Rashidiya area, northern Mosul,” the source told Aswat al-Iraq news agency. That fits the profile of a terrorist attack. Terrorist=gunman, target=civilians, result=dead/wounded/trauma, etc... It doesn't need to say "officials consider this a terrorist attack", or "militant group x", or "terrorist" to be such a thing. I think the real problem is the source and if it is reliable. Wikifan12345 (talk) 22:42, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- Did you miss the reports about the fiances estranged boy friend vowing to take revenge if she ever married? Tom 00:39, 16 March 2009 (UTC)ps, so to answer my first question, how we base this as a terrorist attack is based on an editor's judgement? Tom 00:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Where does it say that? If that were the case, then no it wouldn't terrorism. I'm assuming we're using the definition of terrorism, but then that too is difficult to identify accurately. I think a group/person/organization promoting an ideology and deliberately targeting non/legal-combatants to create a state of fear is a bare-bones profile for a terrorist act. Also, if the source identifies it as terrorism. Wikifan12345 (talk) 04:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- The citation doesn't mention the angry ex boyfriend, but that was the word on the street. I guess as long as the citations provide all the components of the definition of terrorism, like you listed, that should sufice. I would probably just use caution when deciding what to add. Anyways, Tom 05:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Word on the street? Wikifan12345 (talk) 05:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it is not a reliable source so I would not include it per WP:RS. Tom 13:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Word on the street? Wikifan12345 (talk) 05:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- The citation doesn't mention the angry ex boyfriend, but that was the word on the street. I guess as long as the citations provide all the components of the definition of terrorism, like you listed, that should sufice. I would probably just use caution when deciding what to add. Anyways, Tom 05:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Where does it say that? If that were the case, then no it wouldn't terrorism. I'm assuming we're using the definition of terrorism, but then that too is difficult to identify accurately. I think a group/person/organization promoting an ideology and deliberately targeting non/legal-combatants to create a state of fear is a bare-bones profile for a terrorist act. Also, if the source identifies it as terrorism. Wikifan12345 (talk) 04:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Did you miss the reports about the fiances estranged boy friend vowing to take revenge if she ever married? Tom 00:39, 16 March 2009 (UTC)ps, so to answer my first question, how we base this as a terrorist attack is based on an editor's judgement? Tom 00:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- What? "gunman threw a hand grenade at a house where a wedding party was taking place in al-Rashidiya area, northern Mosul,” the source told Aswat al-Iraq news agency. That fits the profile of a terrorist attack. Terrorist=gunman, target=civilians, result=dead/wounded/trauma, etc... It doesn't need to say "officials consider this a terrorist attack", or "militant group x", or "terrorist" to be such a thing. I think the real problem is the source and if it is reliable. Wikifan12345 (talk) 22:42, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Removing cited information without summary, talk, etc...
User:Jersay and user User talk:70.67.10.25, please stop removing cited information without a valid reason. Between both of you (if you're not the same person), over 7 reverts of cited incidents have occurred. Please stop the needless reverts without going to talk, thanks. Wikifan12345 (talk) 22:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Landi Kotal, Pakistan Rocket Attack
I see that a rocket attack occured in North-Western Pakistan in the community of Landi Kotal killing 10 people and wounding at least 40 people. It is believed that the target was a military camp.
Incident: March 20, 2009
Title: Pakistan rocket attack 'kills 10'
Publisher: BBC News
I believe this is a terrorist incident.
link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7954222.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canadian87 (talk • (Canadian87 (talk) 19:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC))contribs) 19:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Amara Iraq Bomb Attack
March 20, 2009
Iraq, Amara
1 killed
2 wounded
A bomb exploded at a highway intersection in southern Iraq targeting a police patrol killing one police officer and injuring two other police officers. Colonel Sadiq al-Hulu, the commander of Misan province emergency regiment was the target for the attack.
Bomb kills Iraqi policeman
Yahoo News
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090320/world/iraq_unrest_police
(Canadian87 (talk) 19:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC))Signed Canadian87
Kandahar Province attack
March 20, 2009
Afghanistan, Kandahar Province
4 killed
8 wounded
Two roadside bombings killed 4 Canadian soldiers and injured 8 other Canadian soldiers in Kandahar province.
4 Canadian soldiers killed, 8 injured in Kandahar roadside attacks
CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/03/20/afghanistan-soldiers.html
(Canadian87 (talk) 22:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC))
Not Terrorist Incidents
January 1st, 2009 Mogadishu January 2nd, 2009 Mogadishu Somalia, March 11, 2009 Mogadishu Somalia and March 19, 2009 Lebanon
January 1st, 2009, January 2nd, 2009: (Somalia) Although tragic that a family of four was killed in a mortar attack in Mogadishu, they were not the intended targets. The Presidential palace was and their deaths have been posted in War in Somalia (2006-2009). There have been a number of mortar attacks that have killed civilians in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, and in Somalia. I believe it is a terrorist attack if a foreign organization, citizens, civilians are directly targetted and not in a battle between two opposing forces as occured on both January 1st and 2nd. If it is in a battle it is not a terrorist strike, however, if it is considered a terrorist strike there are at least 200 incidents in Iraq from 2008 to 2009 that need to be posted similarly as well no other shellings have been posted as a terrorist incident, even though they have occured in February targeting A.U. peacekeepers.
March 11, 2009: A landmine detonated in Mogadishu killing three security officials. No group claimed responsibility for the attack and on AllAfrica it was claimed that the landmine was from the clan-warlord days of the early decade as Somalia remains a heavily armed nation.
March 19, 2009: (Lebanon): This is non-state terrorism lists. A cluster bomb released by Israeli forces does not constitute a war crime or a terrorist incident.(Canadian87 (talk) 18:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC))
Removed the Lebanon one, however the Somalia attacks qualify as terrorist incidents. The attacks are all non-state, the militant groups are not considered part of the sovereign country (i.e, they don't "officially" run the country.). Please add all the mortar and shelling incidents you can find them. Wikifan12345 (talk) 23:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Landi Kotel
User Wikifan145 has posted about a rocket attack occuring in the Kyber Pass killing three people. This incident is a terrorist incident however it occured on the Community Landi Kotel (BBC News) and it struck the commercial district of this Pakistani community killing 10 people and injuring 40, not killing just three. The BBC news also reports it occured on March 20, not the 21. If this could be edited that would be appreciated (Canadian87 (talk) 18:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC))
- Provide the BBC link and I will fix it. Wikifan12345 (talk) 23:45, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Chakdara gun battle
There is no evidence to suggest that this was little more than a gunbattle between Taliban insurgents and Afghan police deserving to be in Afghan war but not a terrorist incident. (Canadian87 (talk) 18:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC))
March 19 gunbattle is a insurgent attack, battle in Chakdara which is in the Afghanistan war but not a terrorist incident.
It states that Taliban forces actually arrested 14 of the attackers in this attack. Therefore, criminal activity as it looks like it is is not a terrorist incident. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuesday2009 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
March 21, 2009 Afghanistan bombing
March 21, 2009 Afghanistan, Chaparhar district
7 killed
4 wounded
A suicide car bomber detonated his explosives at a police checkpoint in Nangahar province, Chaparhar district killing himself, six civilians and an Afghan police officer and injuring four other officers.
Edinburgh Evening News
http://news.scotsman.com/world/Six-people-killed-by-suicide.5096108.jp(Canadian87 (talk) 18:38, 21 March 2009 (UTC))
Marketplace bombing
March 22, 2009
Philippines, Kidapawan
0 killed
7 injured
A bomb exploded on an overpass over a busy marketplace wounding seven people. The blast blew out windows of local shops and police officers and soldiers began stepped up patrols of the area.
International Herald Tribune
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/03/22/asia/AS-Philippines-Bombings.php (Canadian87 (talk) 14:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC))
Iraq booby-trap house
March 22, 2009
Iraq, Saadiyah
2 killed
8 injured
Police conducting a raid in Saadiyah were the target of a booby-trap bomb as a massive explosion rocked the city when one of the houses they entered exploded. Two Iraqi police officers were killed and 8 others wounded.
Xinhuanet.com
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-03/22/content_11052455.htm(Canadian87 (talk) 14:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC))
Link is dead. Wikifan12345 (talk) 23:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
West Bank Attack and Kandahar Attack
Both attacks should be connected to the conflicts that are occuring in both regions. Afghanistan war, and Israeli Palestinian conflict. But should they be classified as terrorist incidents? I do not think so.
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