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::Is there an article? ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 01:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC) ::Is there an article? ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 01:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:::We have ]. Too short yet. --] (]) 05:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC) :::We have ]. Too short yet. --] (]) 05:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

==April 4==
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===ITN candidates for April 4===

;Tax Havens
What about the blacklisted tax havens? Quite significant because it ties in with France and Germany's calls at the G20 summit for tighter financial control --] (]) 11:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:Support, this was one of the big agreements to come out of the G20 summit. How about: "The ] ''']''' ], ], and ] as non-cooperative ]s". I have just updated the tax haven article as it was still showing Uruguay as non-cooperative - ] (]) 11:39, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::Support. --] (]) 11:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Added a bit more prose clarifing Uruguay's movement and the France/Europe-China sticking points --] (]) 12:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Posting. --] (]) 13:08, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


;Grand National
] wins the ''']''' at odds of 100-1. ] (]) 16:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:Normally it doesn't get on the main page but this was the longest priced winner since 1967 (), the first French horse to win it and only the second ever to win that was trained by a woman. Perhaps: "] wins the ''']''' at 100-1 odds, the longest priced winner for more than 40 years" - ] (]) 16:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::I'd support on the grounds of what has been presented. It seems fairly exceptional. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 18:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::: I'd oppose on basis that this is a statistically interesting feature and nothing more... --''']''' 18:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::::I'd revise my above statement in that I've just realised the article is not up to scratch. More prose would be required anyway. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 18:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::I dunno it's one of the oldest sporting events in the world dating back to the 1830s. But as Candlewicke says the article is not up to scratch. At the moment no horse racing events go up and in my opinion things such as the ], ], ] and ] are all major events in this sport. I think we should consider adding some of these to ITN for the future --] (]) 23:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::Anyone think this could be a contender for ]? This was the 122nd running of this "" and "" in front of a crowd of 70,000+. "" I would just like to say this got lost in an edit conflict with the above statement so I'll put it here. This sport seems vastly ignored at ITN which perhaps may be down to a lack of editors with an interest in that area. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 23:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Methinks the only American race that'll be included in the ], and that's when a horse wins the ] which hasn't happened since 1978. There's also a British equivalent which was last won in 1970. I think we should limit ITN mentions to these two Triple Crowns. &ndash;'''] ] ]''' 04:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

==April 3==
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===ITN candidates for April 3===
*] will be replaced as ] by ]. Mr. Abdullah has already had his resignation accepted by the ] ]. A good candidate as we normally cover changes of heads of state () - ] (]) 09:39, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:It's got my support for notability. Now to find a hook... '''<font color="#00824A">]</font> <font color="#2A5FFF">]</font> <font color="#00824A">]</font>''' 20:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:Note: Badawi is the head of government, the King is the head of state. I'd still support this, I thought it already got in. &ndash;'''] ] ]''' 05:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
::How about: "''']''' is replaced by ] as ] of ] after ] suffered its ] last year?" - ] (]) 10:13, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
:::On second thoughts it is probably better to put the incoming PM in bold:"''']''' replaces ] as ] of ] after ] suffered its ] last year?", it can also be run without the last part but I think it is important to know why the replacement has occurred - ] (]) 12:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Posted. --] (]) 13:11, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


;Binghamton
See ]. This is already quite high-profile although I seem to be the only person on Misplaced Pages who even knows about it(!). We had ] a while ago. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 17:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
:13 people are killed and 26 others are severely wounded during a ''']''' in ], ]. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 18:51, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
::Posted. --] (]) 20:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

==April 2==
{|{{Portal:Current events/2009 April 2}}
===ITN candidates for April 2===

;G20 Summit
*]. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 15:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
:"World leaders meet at the ''']'''"? '''<font color="#00824A">]</font> <font color="#2A5FFF">]</font> <font color="#00824A">]</font>''' 00:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
::Probably. But, as it hasn't happened yet, there remains the possibility that a bigger story may emerge. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 03:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay. I don't really understand the layout of the summit. Did it start today or were they just getting aquaitented with each other and thus the "big day" is tomorrow. '''<font color="#00824A">]</font> <font color="#2A5FFF">]</font> <font color="#00824A">]</font>''' 21:21, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
::::In a word yes. Today was the posing bit where they all pretend to do stuff but really do nothing. The hard work (and I use the term loosely) begins tomorrow --] (]) 21:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Possible hook - "Leaders at the ''']''' agree on a deal worth approximately ]1 trillion to tackle the ]." ] (]) 15:39, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::"G20 strikes trillion-dollar crisis deal." ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 16:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::"''New world order is emerging''" - ]. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 16:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Support the trillion dollar hook, although maybe we can mention that most of it ($750bn) will be going to the IMF? Also the BBC includes a $100 bn deal for developing countries which takes it to $1.1 trillion - ] (]) 16:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::]We can probably stick this picture up as well, it has all the leaders and the conference logo in it and doesn't look too bad at 100 px - ] (]) 16:54, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::: What about mentioning ] blacklisting? This is pretty big as well, I suppose. --''']''' 07:16, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Surely we can get something on the main page by now? It is huge news which has dominated the headlines (at least here in the UK) and someone has already ] at main page discussion - ] (]) 10:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
:::I'll put the short version up until we agree on the final wording. --''']''' 11:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
;Great Ex-President (a argentinian hero) death is a news a event of 31 March, not just a little recent death
*], ]'s first ] to be democratically elected after the "]" military dictatorship, has died of illness aged 82. 3 days of national ] was decreted.
:That is what i wrote of that day and somebody just take that out; Lady Di death, Reagan death, and Alfonsin death Are News (I think), president of all South America are talking about that right now, Capital city of the nation have many people screaming her name, is a popular manifestation of love. Sorry i not logged in this languaje of wikipedia and sorry for my english. Please somebody add that again--] (]) 17:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
::The "first president to be democratically elected after the "Dirty War" military dictatorship", "won international admiration for putting on trial and jailing former military officials who had tortured and killed thousands of suspected leftists" and the talk of South America and three days of national mourning, you say? '''Support''' from me. His death seems to be geographically disadvantaged in the eyes of most of Misplaced Pages in the same way that almost saw the deletion of ]. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 19:06, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
>>>Moved here from 31 March. Not a sitting world leader, not an assassination, but I've read up on it and if, as 201.255.42.83 says, three days of national mourning have been declared and it is the talk of South America, I imagine this would be quite enough for any President or monarch in Europe or Asia, e.g. ] (who doesn't appear to have been given one of those ITN tags but features in the archive). --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 18:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:Wording: ''']''', ]'s first ] to be democratically elected after the "]" military dictatorship, dies at the age of 82. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 18:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
::: Posting. I believe this is one of the exceptional cases for deaths on ITN. --''']''' 07:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

;AI?
Anyone else think has the potential for an article? --] (]) 20:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:<strike>It's from 15 Jan 2004.</strike> ] (]) 21:07, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
::The top line (19:23 GMT, Thursday, 2 April 2009 20:23 UK) appears to suggest otherwise... <small><span style="border:1px solid #333333;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 21:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

==April 1==
{|{{Portal:Current events/2009 April 1}}
===ITN candidates for April 1===
: ''discussion moved to ]''
*] and ] prepare for a ''']''' in ], in their quest for ]. ] (]) 04:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
: Brilliant. This one can replace the Turkish missiles if you guys agree. --''']''' 07:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:: On the other hand, this may be a bit too hard. I'll post the question at Main page talk because it has more people monitoring. --''']''' 07:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


;Guantanamo "fun"
]n beauty queen ''']''' has a fun day at camp in ]. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 19:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
::It's even been updated. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 19:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

;North Sea Helicopter Crash
I think it might be an idea to keep an eye on this. I know we trying to move away from doom and gloom but there are eight confirmed fatalities and I think the expectation is that this will rise to 16 --] (]) 21:50, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:The eight bodies have been found and there is "no hope" of finding any survivors - ] (]) 09:41, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
::'''Oppose'''. This is primarily doom and gloom that is insignificant beyond those affected. Helicopter crashes are not uncommon in this region. Indeed, there has just been in the neighbouring country today. I question the significance because, if the BBC and Sky themselves cannot cover the story properly (as is evident from the controversy erupting in the comments section ), how is it to be considered a big enough deal for Misplaced Pages's Main Page? It's a tragic situation but Misplaced Pages isn't given to losing control over emotional agendas. I personally would consider it to be a geographical abomination if this went to ITN over the Argentinean President's dead body. The victims of this can this can at least rest assured they are receiving a higher amount of media coverage than him. --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 18:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
::: To be fair, this is the largest loss of life in a single incident in two decades in the UK. <small><span style="border:1px solid #339999;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 21:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
:::: Really? I was actually just about to say I was unaware of this but then the ] came to mind. You must be misinformed as four years is not very close to two decades? --<font face="serif">]]]]</font> 08:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


;NATO expansion
"] and ] ''']''' the ] (NATO)." '''<font color="#00824A">]</font> <font color="#2A5FFF">]</font> <font color="#00824A">]</font>''' 22:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
: I'll post it. If there is an article, it would be nice to also add ''at the ?? NATO summit taking place in ??''. --''']''' 07:34, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
::There's one currently ongoing, which can be added to the existing blurb. Its the '' '] ] in ] and ]' '' --] (]) 21:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

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May 12

OK, I'm from BC, but the election by itself is not notable. I would argue that passing of STV in the referendum would be, since BC would become the only major jurisdiction in the Americas to employ it. Random89 03:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

May 11

May 1

I've nothing against this at all but why were all the recent legalisations not nominated? Support at any rate. --candlewicke 19:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Support SeanMD80 00:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

April 21

  • The World Digital Library is due to launch. It has much in common with Misplaced Pages, in terms of promising to massively increase access to information from around the world and in many languages. As significant a launch as that of an important new rocket or spaceship, I would argue. BrainyBabe (talk) 13:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Support. This launch will most likely even have a substantial impact on Misplaced Pages, as most/all of the newly digitalized literature will satisfy WP:RS.   — C M B J   17:29, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Support because it most likely will affect Misplaced Pages? It sounds great but I see a number of things which are inappropriate for ITN here so I would oppose. --candlewicke 19:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh. --candlewicke 02:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

April 17

April 13

Wouldn't WP:OTD be the place for this? Spencer 23:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
OK SriMesh | talk 01:13, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

April 12

Support; on WP:ITNSPORTS. Just make sure the article has some decently written and reffed prose. Spencer 19:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

April 11

April 11, 2009 (2009-04-11) (Saturday)

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April 10

April 10, 2009 (2009-04-10) (Friday)

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Fiji
The situation in Fiji is certainly worthy of an ITN entry, but we have no significantly updated article so far, apart from some minimal edits to 2006 Fijian coup d'état and Josefa Iloilo. The events appear to be:
  • The Fijian Court of Appeal rules that the military government is illegal.
  • The military commander, Frank Bainimarama, steps down but retains control of the military, leaving no government in Fiji
  • The president, Josefa Iloilo, who was installed by the military govt, announces that the Court of Appeal judges are sacked, that the constitution is abolished, and he is assuming all governing power.
If the linked articles can be updated, and perhaps also Politics of Fiji, an ITN should be worded.-gadfium 06:33, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Support when we have sufficient updates. --Tone 08:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I created a main article to follow this specific event: 2009 Fijian consititutional crisis -- Scanlan (talk) 12:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Good start. More or less ready, I'd say. Any other opinions? Also, please propose a blurb. --Tone 14:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Proposed wording since it is now red:
Fijian President, Ratu Josefa Iloilo, suspends the Constitution of Fiji after the country's Court of Appeal rules that the current government is illegal. --candlewicke 16:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Posting. --Tone 17:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

April 9

April 9, 2009 (2009-04-09) (Thursday)

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Terror plot cock-up

Breaking news: UK terrorist plot arrests. Seems pretty big, someone on TV just said it was one of the biggest plots in the country. At the moment there's not a lot of info. The arrests were a bit last-minute. Might be a good idea to keep an eye on this story. Not sure if it's notable yet. Jolly Ω Janner 18:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

The more interesting story here is how the most senior counter-terrorism officer in the country carried the "secret" documents around openly whilst being photographed and so was forced to launch the raids a day early. Although he has now resigned over the matter (BBC) - Dumelow (talk) 11:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, doesn't really look notable for Main Page news. Jolly Ω Janner 11:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


Death of Ian Tomlinson

A criminal inquiry, from which the police has been removed, has began on the Death of Ian Tomlinson, after footage from the guardian shows him being attacked from behind by police

Police violence is far too common for this to go up as is. If there were giant protests (like the Greek protests), then I would support. Spencer 19:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I would be of that opinion too. It is one to watch and perhaps the verdict may be significant or lead to something significant but at present there is too little there for ITN. --candlewicke 19:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

April 8

April 8, 2009 (2009-04-08) (Wednesday)

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Italy Quake

BBC now report 250 confirmed deaths . The main page needs updating --Daviessimo (talk) 08:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

MV Maersk Alabama

How often does the crew itself actually regain control of a hijacked ship? If not often, this would seem notable. Grsz 16:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Apparantly this was the fist hostage-taking of American sailors in 200+ years. Grsz 17:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Wait for the cruise missile ships to get there. im sure they are not going to just let pirates keep the captain. then it might be more noteworthy. we already posted many pirate stories just few months back Ashishg55 (talk) 23:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Multiple reliable sources state that this particular attack was the first in 200 years to involve pirates taking American sailors hostage, and that the unarmed crew regained control of the ship. These facts establish that it was an atypical and unique event — irregardless of whether or not the captain is released. Personally, I'd appreciate seeing it listed in ITN.   — C M B J   00:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Basic wording foundation: American merchant sailors regain control of the MV Maersk Alabama after an attack by Somali pirates.   — C M B J   01:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 01:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


Ireland's emergency budget (7th April)
  • World reaction to Budget. I haven't gotten round to creating this yet but does anyone think it would be suitable for ITN? --candlewicke 19:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Wording: Ireland's Minister for Finance Brian Lenihan, Jnr, unveils an emergency budget to counter the country's financial crisis. --candlewicke 20:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
      • I'm sorta going to weak oppose...The US state of California, I believe, had to do this too, and that has a much larger population than Ireland. This is more of a "local"-type story, I think. I feel this may be a bit more DYK worthy, however. Spencer 00:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
        • I doubt an entire country could be dismissed as "local"? National surely? Is it being dismissed for population reasons alone? I'm afraid I disagree with the idea of it being local, especially since there's enough information for an international reaction type section... and on the US state of California doing it – did it have to do it twice in quick succession because it messed up the first one? I would like some further explanation as to what this is being compared to? --candlewicke 12:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
          • Sorry if that comes across in a bad way but I can't understand the "local" idea or the idea of a US state which is not a country. If each US state were the equivalent of a country we would have about 20% more countries than there are already. And why would US states be considered more important than, say, their Australian or Indian counterparts? --candlewicke 18:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
            • IMHO, Japan granting the biggest bailout in their history was bigger than this and even that didn't make it. Now if the FTSE, Xetra Dax, CAC and AEX all posted gains (solely or primarily) because of this, this could be considered. –Howard the Duck 05:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

April 7

April 7, 2009 (2009-04-07) (Tuesday)

ITN candidates for April 7

The shooting appears of too small scale in comparison with other recent shootings on ITN. Riots in Moldova have way too short article at the moment but can be improved. Also, if the article about election is expanded a bit, it can go up. Maybe the best thing to combine the two. --Tone 11:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I've been improving the 2009 Chişinău riots, and urge that it and the Moldovan elections be posted.--Patrick «» 20:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Support. Sacking parliament and the presidential office makes it newsworthy :). Thue | talk 22:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Both articles are fine now. Just give me a good wording. Following the communist party victory at the Moldovan parliamentary election, massive protests begin in Chişinău? --Tone 07:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

One of the new Moldovan parliament's first acts will be to elect a new president, Vladimir Voronin having already served the maximum two terms. This follows the election of the parliament on 5 April in the Moldovan parliamentary election, 2009 (BBC) - Dumelow (talk) 16:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Roughly 10,000 young persons protested in the Great National Assembly Square in Chisinau on Monday evening, disputing the results of the legislative elections won by the Communist Party the third consecutive time, Info-Prim Neo reports. --Dima1 (talk) 18:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Why is this under future events? --candlewicke 20:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I put it under future events as the Moldovan parliament must select a new president within 30 days of the election or it will be dissolved. As we normally cover changes in heads of state it was an almost guaranteed future event. However the parliamentary elections (which I don't think we usually cover) have now become newsworthy and the change in president will probably become associated with this. Suggested tagline: "Rioters in Chişinău, Moldova break into the parliament building and the presidential office during a protest against the results of the recent election". The article mentions deaths of police and civilians which would obviously be a bigger story but doesn't provide any reliable source for this (and it seems to have gone unnoticed by the world's media), I will remove it from the article - Dumelow (talk) 09:52, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Ok, putting this up for now. --Tone 18:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Fujimori convicted


2009 West Java airliner crash
To be honest where it happened should not be a deciding factor. The recent North Sea helicopter crash killed 16 but was deemed notable enough and I fail to see what makes this any more significant (asides from the slightly larger death toll). That being said I'm not opposed to it I just think it might be an idea if we had some rough guidelines for the future. In my opinion this going up set a 'dodgy' precedent for what constitutes a notable air disaster. --Daviessimo (talk) 20:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Scotland/Indonesia. I do see some major differences... a few which I've pointed out above. --candlewicke 20:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
And, in reference to the above, it is not every day we have a plane crash/cemetery/skiing combination. We do, however, seem to be having quite a lot of ditchings (if that is the correct word) and Scottish helicopter crashes. --candlewicke 20:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes there are differences between the countries, but in the interests of neutrality the only thing that should be judged is the event itself. If we based decisions on population then every other item would be for either India of China which combined account for a third of the world's population.I was saying there are no major differences between the two events. i.e both killed a moderate number, neither appears to have been the result of malicious action, neither involved a commerical carrier or flight etc --Daviessimo (talk) 20:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
How does where the passengers are going have any bearing on the significance of the event? It is purely trivial information --Daviessimo (talk) 20:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I was only putting it out there to see what was thought of it. It seems to be at stalemate at present. In some cases the destination may very well be a deciding factor; it simply depends on the situation. It also depends on how often the event occurs in a particular area and, as I've demonstrated, Scotland (and Europe in general) has had too many of these incidents recently. When the United Kingdom was posted for having strange weather several months ago this was thought unusual in areas where such weather is common. Yet it made perfect sense because it was unusual for that area. There is no bias against the United Kingdom in that regard. --candlewicke 19:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
(back indent) When was the last time there was an air disaster that killed 10+ in Scotland exactly?? If you're refering to the recent ditch by a helicopter, then all survived, so quite frankly I can't see the logical comparison. Also what does the 'bad weather' in London have to do with anything? I presume the logic was that it had brought one of only four global cities to a standstill. (London being one of the four along with New York, Tokyo and Paris). This incident in Java has nothing to do with UK and I'm puzzled to why that is being mentioned. I am stating that any event has to be compared with similar events that have gone before. In this instance there was nothing that made this stand out so I questioned what made it significant. With no deaths on the ground and no repecussions I fail to see how where it occured was important. --Daviessimo (talk) 22:57, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Vermont approves same-sex marriage.

  • Vermont is a small state, but it's noteworthy as the first place in North America to institute same-sex marriage through the legislature rather than through a court decision. -- 99.236.2.244 (talk) 04:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

April 6

April 6, 2009 (2009-04-06) (Monday)

ITN candidates for April 6

2009 Italian earthquake
Support, the BBC are now reporting up to 50 deaths, I will try to take a look at the article later today - Dumelow (talk) 10:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Support. Because the number of casualties varies, we can either put a temporary headline Earthquake strikes Italy or wait a couple of hours and have a blurb with numbers. Either is ok and the article is progressing well. --Tone 11:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Curiously, at the moment, there are no catastrophes on ITN, more or less just politics. Of course, this one will change it. --Tone 11:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I have expanded the article and have reffed the death toll (which currently stands at 50) - Dumelow (talk) 12:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
...article has been posted. Spencer 23:09, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Macedonian presidential election
The article is updated now, posting. --Tone 11:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Just added it to the list above also added Moldova and a Pakistan bombing b/c the former was not on the main page (see discussion below) as any countries' election result does get on the main apge and the latter was deleted for some reason by an IP. Lihaas (talk) 11:16, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Russian next-gen manned spacecraft
I say keep an eye on it...not quite suitable yet. Spencer 23:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Another one of those really, really long and tiring debates on sports; this one features a healthy mixture of basketball, baseball, association football, its American counterpart, rugby union, Gaelic football, horse racing, Aussie Rules, rowing, ice hockey... and The Da Vinci Code

Just throwing it out there: The 2009 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament finals are April 6. We usually run the NBA Finals in June, and I'm not saying we shouldn't, but the college championship gets higher TV ratings and is probably the fourth-biggest annual sporting event in the U.S. in terms of cultural impact behind the NFL, BCS and MLB championships. Actually, last year, the NCAA finals had more U.S. viewers than any non-football sporting event save the Olympics -- the basketball game even outdrew the average World Series game. (See ) So if we have the NBA finals, perhaps we should have the NCAA final as well. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 05:58, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

But the thing is its audience is so concentrated on one country so it doesn't fit "international interest". It doesn't fit either international importance criterion so it probably can't shouldn't go up, same with the BCS "Championship Game". Actually if we include this we might as well include the English Premier League as well considering it is the most followed league in most of the world. Plus the format has something to do with it, the knockout style; probably more individuals watched the World Series, even in the U.S. alone, when you add the unique individuals who watched different games.
With that said it has a ton of more views than the Six Nations Championship that got added so it doesn't need that an appearance on the Main Page to be noticed. And, I'd favor adding this if the championship game ends in 6 overtimes or more. –Howard the Duck 14:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I'd favour adding it if it was the highest level of a specific sport. But it doesn't appear to be. I think this would lead to pandemonium... --candlewicke 18:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
I think it's the highest level in amateur basketball anywhere. But once you add modifiers that'll open a whole can of worms... –Howard the Duck 05:16, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Candlewicke on this one, if we start including amateur, college level sports we will leave ourselves open to serious questions on why this is an exception to covering only top level sport. Why, for example, should we include only American college basketball, why not American college football or the British BUSA championships (which covers all sports and no one outside of universities cares about) or even the professional national championships such as the FA cup (which has a big following in England). It seems strange to me that amateur national sports should be placed on the same level as major international side competitions (such as the Six Nations) - Dumelow (talk) 11:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I forgot to add examples of modifiers: American football, amateur basketball, Northern Hemisphere rugby, etc. I think the level of basketball in NCAA Division I is higher than the Universiade. And isn't the Premier League the professional national championship? The FA Cup champion is like held in lesser regard. –Howard the Duck 11:57, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I may have come across badly there. I am against any sort of single country competition being on ITN. I agree that Rugby is a hard one to judge as well (as it has both the Six Nations and the Tri Nations which both include top class teams). I used the FA Cup as I was looking for an example of a knock-out style competition, the Premier League is indeed generally more regarded. American collegiate sports do seem to be played to a much higher standard (and attract a much higher following) than anywhere else in the world but I still don't think we should include them - Dumelow (talk) 12:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
The "mechanics" of the FA Cup is different from the NCAA basketball (every club in England can play(?), while teams qualify/are selected to compete in the NCAA tourney). Though I'd have to say the FA Cup is more followed, by far, globally. And, I favor adding it (FA Cup) iff the top 2 teams in the Premier League face off in the Final. I'm still holding out in the NCAA Tournament if the championship game ends after 7 or more overtimes (7 is the most overtime periods played in NCAA game). –Howard the Duck 13:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't believe it makes sense to include individual amateur, college level sports competitions as there are cases of actual sports with a popular following where their highest level of competition do not even feature currently on ITN. The idea that an amateur competition in a sport which is largely played at a professional level should feature on ITN seems absurd from my knowledge of the popularity of Gaelic football (a game played at amateur level right through the ranks by virtue of that being the individual choice of the promoting organisation). When the highest level of sports like that do not yet feature, a college level competition seems a step too far indeed. If this were to be posted it would simply be impossible to argue against including any existing professional or amateur sports league, cup or competition. Hence the pandemonium I was referring to... I imagine that, unless we can find a few hundred more editors and administrators to nominate/update/post and keep ITN going, those of us who are here could do without such chaos... --candlewicke 13:58, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
It's interesting to note that the NBA doesn't play a single game during the night of the final for several years already; and the NBA at least has one game everyday except for like 4 days per season, one of them is this, the other is New Year's Day, and the other two are randomly selected.
Anyway, this should had been added at WP:ITNR first to ensure we'd be adding or omitting this regularly. –Howard the Duck 19:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure this is not the only competition which doesn't take place when another is on. There must be countless other examples of such competitions in other sports, especially association soccerball. So, an interesting note but not a notable interest. --candlewicke 20:07, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
if we add college then people will complain about not having the most popular high school competition lol. so just let it be and only put nba stuff. Ashishg55 (talk) 21:42, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I might just add that the April 4 discussion about the 2009 Grand National makes a complete mockery of a proposal to include an amateur college competition. The Grand National – and indeed The Boat Race of last week – are evidently more notable than this competition and I'm not overly familiar with either of them. Saying that it is the fourth ranked game in the US in terms of television figures and cultural impact? I know of countries which I'm sure would love to have their highest ranked game included... which reminds me – The Boat Race is primarily a college competition with a popular following too... and a much older history than this basketball tournament... --candlewicke 01:42, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
19.5 million people watched the NCAA basketball championship last year. The boat race had 7.2 million viewers. Unless you're familiar with a country's sporting culture, you shouldn't try to make judgments about it. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
In fairness to the boat race, I think it is more well known abroad, it was even referenced in The Da Vinci Code. But I'm guessing the NCAA tournament is broadcast in more countries than the Boat Race.
P.S.: I'm surprised there is consensus to include the NBA Finals considering someone will question the "domesticity" of the event, probably in June, and if Paul Pierce gets to be the thumbnailed picture. –Howard the Duck 04:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Mwalcoff - comparing by viewing factor is useless if u r not going to take country's population in consideration too. otherwise i can probably name many competitions in india which will easily beat NCAA. Ashishg55 (talk) 04:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Reindent: At least this tournament is the largest indoor championship event in terms of total attendance. However, the thing is it is frequently held on a domed stadium used primarily for football matches which increases the capacity, if you'll place this as an "outdoor" event it'll rank below the baseball's Japan Series and above the aussie rules' NAB Cup. You'll be surprised that "amateur" sports comprise three out of five largest indoor championship events in terms of total attendance, and none of them are held at Europe (pending addition of those events which are probably small since indoor events aren't that big in Europe). –Howard the Duck 05:53, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Are the NBA Finals you refer to the highest level in basketball? I'm fairly sure I could guess a number of outdoor amateur matches which would rank at similar or higher level of attendance. I don't think it is possible to dismiss a sport because it is amateur – there are special cases. --candlewicke 07:57, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I think the point being missed about items like the Boat Race is that their sports are more ignored at ITN than the likes of basketball. We could have any number of items for basketball or football but since there are so many available we don't. There are not as many Boat Race type events occurring on an ongoing basis across the world, i.e. no leagues with matches taking place every week. So the Boat Race has more significance to me. I'm not into the sport but it has more value for its originality. --candlewicke 08:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Indoor-based sports (such as basketball and ice hockey) are at a disadvantage since they are mostly played in indoor arenas which are smaller than stadiums, whether open-air or domed or roofed. As for basketball, the NBA Finals is the highest competition in club basketball; the highest competition among national teams, the Olympics, ironically didn't make it to the ITN (the second-most important, the FIBA World Championship, made it on 2006. It remains to be seen if it'll be added again pending the result: if U.S. wins, it most likely won't go up since it is not really "news."). –Howard the Duck 08:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, but basketball, etc. at its highest level still makes it though? Regardless of attendance figures. Attendance figures form a very slim part of the criteria or else just about anything would be posted. --candlewicke 10:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Other sports, like other events can still make it if something really remarkable happens, such as in this case if it ends with multiple overtimes (3 is the most number of overtime periods in the championship game). If some kind of a remarkable record is tied/broken I think the NCAA should be given a mention. –Howard the Duck 10:19, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
i'll say if a 6 overtime ncaa final happens then we should post it in all caps lol. otherwise no Ashishg55 (talk) 12:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I think I'll lower it to four. Overtime periods of more than 2 are rare anyway.
Suggested blurb Michigan State/North Carolina defeats Michigan State/North Carolina in 4+ overtime periods in the 2009 NCAA basketball championship in Detroit, U.S..
But UNC will probably win big time anyway so... –Howard the Duck 14:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Note: MSU's game was as bad as Michigan's economy so this won't make it. –Howard the Duck 14:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank goodness... --candlewicke 20:31, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
If anything, the women's tournament is more remarkable since UConn defeated all opponents all season long with double-digit margins for a 39-0 record. But that's still not covered anywhere so that'll probably won't cut it either. –Howard the Duck 16:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

April 5

April 5, 2009 (2009-04-05) (Sunday)

ITN candidates for April 5

North Korean launch
  • We should keep an eye on the impending North Korean satellite/missile launch. It implicates several countries including South Korea, Japan, and the U.S. --BorgQueen (talk) 04:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
i wonder if north koreans know about wikipedia Ashishg55 (talk) 12:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't think so. Misplaced Pages is not even terribly well-known in South Korea. (Sorry, my OR.) --BorgQueen (talk) 14:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I doubt that many of them have access to it, but apparently Kim Jong-il is an internet lover so maybe he reads it! (see Internet in North Korea and here) Back on topic I support ITN covering the launch and international reaction to it - Dumelow (talk) 15:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
"...ordinary people are banned from using mobile phones, let alone the Internet". I think it would therefore be safe to draw the (non-OR?) conclusion that these "ordinary people" are also banned from accessing Misplaced Pages. No source for "extraordinary people" though. --candlewicke 18:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
"A North Korean general cracked a joke about President Bush during high-level military talks with the South earlier this year, saying he read it on the Internet". What are the chances the "joke" came from Misplaced Pages... I sense we're being watched from somewhere within. --candlewicke 18:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
The 5-day window for it to be launched will begin tomorrow. –Howard the Duck 13:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
They missed the first launch window so the next earliest possible launch is 5 April (BBC) - Dumelow (talk) 10:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

NOW. 76.205.76.213 (talk) 03:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Where's the article? This should be put up if it has updates. –Howard the Duck 06:09, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 06:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


Antarctic ITN!!

What about this to . Pretty noteworthy I'd say. The relevant article Wilkins Ice Shelf should be easy to update --Daviessimo (talk) 07:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Support. Because I like it. We can never have enough firsts from Antarctica. --candlewicke 07:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I've updated the article. How about "An ice bridge connecting the Wilkins Ice Shelf to Charcot Island breaks" --Daviessimo (talk) 08:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Posting. --Tone 14:45, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Macedonia elections!!

Global election results are always posted ont he main page no matter the size of the country. If not this post, then at least when the results are posted should be put on the main page.

Indeed. --candlewicke 10:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Just make sure that the appropriate articles are updated and then this can go up when the results are known. --Tone 14:45, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Danish PM

Just came across this one. After Anders Fogh Rasmussen has been chosen to become the new NATO Secretary General, Lars Løkke Rasmussen takes his position as the PM of Denmark. Both articles are updated. (Are they related maybe?) --Tone 14:45, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

According to Rasmussen's article they are and Rasmussen (oh wait, they're both Rasmussen... ) assumed his new role today... oh that's what you meant by related... --candlewicke 15:00, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
My goodness, this seems to be the third Rasmussen PM of Denmark in a row... it must be a really popular name in political circles or else nepotism is alive and well in the country... --candlewicke 15:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Suggest: "Anders Fogh Rasmussen is selected to be the next Secretary General of NATO and Lars Løkke Rasmussen succeeds him as Prime Minister of Denmark" or similar - Dumelow (talk) 16:16, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Posting. --Tone 17:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Ivan Gašparovič
Slovak presidential election, 2009

Gašparovič won, this is now pretty clear. The updates are a bit short but when this is fixed, we can put in on. --Tone 19:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe that I've updated Slovak presidential election, 2009 enough. Any other thoughts? Spencer 21:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Wording: Ivan Gašparovič (pictured) is re-elected President of Slovakia, defeating Iveta Radičová. Spencer 00:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Good to see you back. ;) --candlewicke 00:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
It was quite a nice and relaxing holiday; I could've gone another week...but I've got to get back to work. Posting this. Spencer 01:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Venezuela
What about this? --candlewicke 23:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Hm...just looking at the story is eliciting an oppose, perhaps a bit weakly, from me...I don't find this rather internationally notable enough. Spencer 00:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Shocking mosque revelations
This is a most alarming occurrence I'm sure, perhaps? No? Maybe not. --candlewicke 00:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, maybe not... Spencer 01:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Ringo and Paul
Now this is definitely pretty rare and historic. ITN was barely walking when it last occurred. I fear we do not do enough stories like these, ones which combine music, culture, and one or two iconic international figures. --candlewicke 00:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Arab Summit in Qatar
Seems to have gone without much notice. The G-20 took over the headlines. --candlewicke 00:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Is there an article? Spencer 01:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
We have 2009 Arab League summit. Too short yet. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

April 4

April 4, 2009 (2009-04-04) (Saturday)

ITN candidates for April 4

Tax Havens

What about the blacklisted tax havens? Quite significant because it ties in with France and Germany's calls at the G20 summit for tighter financial control --Daviessimo (talk) 11:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Support, this was one of the big agreements to come out of the G20 summit. How about: "The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development blacklists Costa Rica, Malaysia, and the Philippines as non-cooperative tax havens". I have just updated the tax haven article as it was still showing Uruguay as non-cooperative - Dumelow (talk) 11:39, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Support. --BorgQueen (talk) 11:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Added a bit more prose clarifing Uruguay's movement and the France/Europe-China sticking points --Daviessimo (talk) 12:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Posting. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:08, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


Grand National

Mon Mome wins the 2009 Grand National at odds of 100-1. ISD (talk) 16:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Normally it doesn't get on the main page but this was the longest priced winner since 1967 (BBC), the first French horse to win it and only the second ever to win that was trained by a woman. Perhaps: "Mon Mome wins the 2009 British Grand National at 100-1 odds, the longest priced winner for more than 40 years" - Dumelow (talk) 16:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I'd support on the grounds of what has been presented. It seems fairly exceptional. --candlewicke 18:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I'd oppose on basis that this is a statistically interesting feature and nothing more... --Tone 18:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I'd revise my above statement in that I've just realised the article is not up to scratch. More prose would be required anyway. --candlewicke 18:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I dunno it's one of the oldest sporting events in the world dating back to the 1830s. But as Candlewicke says the article is not up to scratch. At the moment no horse racing events go up and in my opinion things such as the Grand National, Kentucky Derby, Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe and Epsom Derby are all major events in this sport. I think we should consider adding some of these to ITN for the future --Daviessimo (talk) 23:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Anyone think this could be a contender for WP:ITNR? This was the 122nd running of this "world famous marathon" and "lottery" in front of a crowd of 70,000+. "It's the race that everyone wants to win. That's known all over the world, but you always assume that it's out of reach." I would just like to say this got lost in an edit conflict with the above statement so I'll put it here. This sport seems vastly ignored at ITN which perhaps may be down to a lack of editors with an interest in that area. --candlewicke 23:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Methinks the only American race that'll be included in the Belmont Stakes, and that's when a horse wins the Triple Crown which hasn't happened since 1978. There's also a British equivalent which was last won in 1970. I think we should limit ITN mentions to these two Triple Crowns. –Howard the Duck 04:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

April 3

April 3, 2009 (2009-04-03) (Friday)

ITN candidates for April 3

It's got my support for notability. Now to find a hook... Jolly Ω Janner 20:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Note: Badawi is the head of government, the King is the head of state. I'd still support this, I thought it already got in. –Howard the Duck 05:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
How about: "Abdullah Ahmad Badawi is replaced by Najib Tun Razak as Prime Minister of Malaysia after the ruling coalition suffered its worst election result ever last year?" - Dumelow (talk) 10:13, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
On second thoughts it is probably better to put the incoming PM in bold:"Najib Tun Razak replaces Abdullah Ahmad Badawi as Prime Minister of Malaysia after the ruling coalition suffered its worst election result ever last year?", it can also be run without the last part but I think it is important to know why the replacement has occurred - Dumelow (talk) 12:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:11, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


Binghamton

See 2009 Binghamton shootings. This is already quite high-profile although I seem to be the only person on Misplaced Pages who even knows about it(!). We had Dendermonde nursery attack a while ago. --candlewicke 17:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

13 people are killed and 26 others are severely wounded during a shooting incident in Binghamton, New York. --candlewicke 18:51, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 20:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

April 2

April 2, 2009 (2009-04-02) (Thursday)

ITN candidates for April 2

G20 Summit
"World leaders meet at the 2009 G-20 London summit"? Jolly Ω Janner 00:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Probably. But, as it hasn't happened yet, there remains the possibility that a bigger story may emerge. --candlewicke 03:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay. I don't really understand the layout of the summit. Did it start today or were they just getting aquaitented with each other and thus the "big day" is tomorrow. Jolly Ω Janner 21:21, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
In a word yes. Today was the posing bit where they all pretend to do stuff but really do nothing. The hard work (and I use the term loosely) begins tomorrow --Daviessimo (talk) 21:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Possible hook - "Leaders at the 2009 G-20 London summit agree on a deal worth approximately $1 trillion to tackle the current financial crisis." (BBC) ISD (talk) 15:39, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
"G20 strikes trillion-dollar crisis deal." (Reuters) Felipe 16:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
"New world order is emerging" - Gordon Brown. Felipe 16:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Support the trillion dollar hook, although maybe we can mention that most of it ($750bn) will be going to the IMF? Also the BBC includes a $100 bn deal for developing countries which takes it to $1.1 trillion - Dumelow (talk) 16:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
We can probably stick this picture up as well, it has all the leaders and the conference logo in it and doesn't look too bad at 100 px - Dumelow (talk) 16:54, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
What about mentioning tax havens blacklisting? This is pretty big as well, I suppose. --Tone 07:16, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Surely we can get something on the main page by now? It is huge news which has dominated the headlines (at least here in the UK) and someone has already brought it up at main page discussion - Dumelow (talk) 10:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I'll put the short version up until we agree on the final wording. --Tone 11:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Great Ex-President (a argentinian hero) death is a news a event of 31 March, not just a little recent death
That is what i wrote of that day and somebody just take that out; Lady Di death, Reagan death, and Alfonsin death Are News (I think), president of all South America are talking about that right now, Capital city of the nation have many people screaming her name, is a popular manifestation of love. Sorry i not logged in this languaje of wikipedia and sorry for my english. Please somebody add that again--201.255.42.83 (talk) 17:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
The "first president to be democratically elected after the "Dirty War" military dictatorship", "won international admiration for putting on trial and jailing former military officials who had tortured and killed thousands of suspected leftists" and the talk of South America and three days of national mourning, you say? Support from me. His death seems to be geographically disadvantaged in the eyes of most of Misplaced Pages in the same way that almost saw the deletion of Susan Tsvangirai. --candlewicke 19:06, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

>>>Moved here from 31 March. Not a sitting world leader, not an assassination, but I've read up on it and if, as 201.255.42.83 says, three days of national mourning have been declared and it is the talk of South America, I imagine this would be quite enough for any President or monarch in Europe or Asia, e.g. Suharto (who doesn't appear to have been given one of those ITN tags but features in the archive). --candlewicke 18:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Wording: Raul Alfonsin, Argentina's first President to be democratically elected after the "Dirty War" military dictatorship, dies at the age of 82. --candlewicke 18:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Posting. I believe this is one of the exceptional cases for deaths on ITN. --Tone 07:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
AI?

Anyone else think this has the potential for an article? --Daviessimo (talk) 20:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

It's from 15 Jan 2004. Narayanese (talk) 21:07, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
The top line (19:23 GMT, Thursday, 2 April 2009 20:23 UK) appears to suggest otherwise...  GARDEN  21:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

April 1

April 1, 2009 (2009-04-01) (Wednesday)

ITN candidates for April 1

discussion moved to Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/In The News
Brilliant. This one can replace the Turkish missiles if you guys agree. --Tone 07:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
On the other hand, this may be a bit too hard. I'll post the question at Main page talk because it has more people monitoring. --Tone 07:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


Guantanamo "fun"

Venezuelan beauty queen Dayana Mendoza has a fun day at camp in Guantanamo Bay. --candlewicke 19:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

It's even been updated. --candlewicke 19:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
North Sea Helicopter Crash

I think it might be an idea to keep an eye on this. I know we trying to move away from doom and gloom but there are eight confirmed fatalities and I think the expectation is that this will rise to 16 --Daviessimo (talk) 21:50, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

The BBC now says eight bodies have been found and there is "no hope" of finding any survivors - Dumelow (talk) 09:41, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Oppose. This is primarily doom and gloom that is insignificant beyond those affected. Helicopter crashes are not uncommon in this region. Indeed, there has just been another fatal incident in the neighbouring country today. I question the significance because, if the BBC and Sky themselves cannot cover the story properly (as is evident from the controversy erupting in the comments section here), how is it to be considered a big enough deal for Misplaced Pages's Main Page? It's a tragic situation but Misplaced Pages isn't given to losing control over emotional agendas. I personally would consider it to be a geographical abomination if this went to ITN over the Argentinean President's dead body. The victims of this can this can at least rest assured they are receiving a higher amount of media coverage than him. --candlewicke 18:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
To be fair, this is the largest loss of life in a single incident in two decades in the UK.  GARDEN  21:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Really? I was actually just about to say I was unaware of this but then the 7 July 2005 London bombings came to mind. You must be misinformed as four years is not very close to two decades? --candlewicke 08:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


NATO expansion

"Albania and Croatia join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)." Jolly Ω Janner 22:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll post it. If there is an article, it would be nice to also add at the ?? NATO summit taking place in ??. --Tone 07:34, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
There's one currently ongoing, which can be added to the existing blurb. Its the '21st NATO Summit in Germany and France' --Daviessimo (talk) 21:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
  1. http://www.azi.md/en/story/2113
  2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PF0KIuPY3o
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