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Hello! I was doing New Page Patrol and I came upon your new articles about the Nebula Award nominated books. I put tags on the article requested their expansion and editing to fit Misplaced Pages requirements. If you need help in this endeavour, please feel free to call on me. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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Homosexuality

Regarding the topic "homophobia" and suggestions for being inclusive to people referencing the article on "Homosexuality":

1. "Homophobia" and "Homosexuality in Animals" have their own articles entirely. To avoid unnecessary duplication and congestion and non-topicality, simply place cross-references and links within the "Homosexuality" article so interested parties can move to those articles. For any experienced computer user or Misplaced Pages user, such cross-navigation is easy and quick and also provides more substantial and effective treatments of the related topics in their proper encyclopedic location or place. (Some of those cross-links have already been placed in the article in question.)

2. Further, if in fact what you claim is true, then the proper location for that information is, in fact, under "homophobia" or a "homophobia" subsection--NOT under an "Animal Sexuality" subsection--when the article is totally focused on Human Sexuality or its variants.

3. As you can see easily under many topics in Misplaced Pages, appropriate treatment in sub-sections of articles is almost NEVER preferential to full and appropriate treatment in the main article itself--and it is easy to cross-link and cross-reference (as stated above). Thanks! Rbfitz0529 (talk) 02:26, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Further, I have reviewed the article and find absolutely no references to "homosexuality in animals" in the Misplaced Pages article (or and linked articles) under or with any "homophobia" sub-sections or passages. Please clarify that reference. Thanks! Rbfitz0529 (talk) 02:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

January 2009

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Rick Warren. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. --VS 00:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to the LGBT WikiProject!

Hi, Phoenix of9, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies! We are a growing community of Misplaced Pages editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles regarding lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) and intersex people. LGBT Studies covers people, culture, history, and related subjects concerning sexual identity and gender identity - this covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated! Some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve articles, so if someone seeks help, please try to assist if you are able. Likewise feel free to ask for help, advice or clarification. Many important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it. If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics. The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there. If you're going to stay awhile, please create a square in our project quilt! You can put anything you want in it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome!

-- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 03:51, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Civility

Noting that someones opinion is "irrelevant" is not the way to maintain friendly debate on an issue. Surely you can do better? Kevin (talk) 23:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Chindi (novel)

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This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 21:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of SOSLynx

A tag has been placed on SOSLynx requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the article or have a copy emailed to you. DARTH PANDA 21:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

LGBT template photo

Thanks! The new photo image is great. The old, crappy photo was put their by someone to replace a perfectly good symbol. Anyway, this little thing makes a world of a difference. --83.231.103.116 (talk) 21:49, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL I agree. Phoenix of9 (talk) 21:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Show Me Love

Hey. A note to say I'm not trying to be difficult here, but the former Lesbian article used shady sourcing culled from very quick Google searches, and lists or unrelated sentences somehow fused together in incoherent paragraphs. I'm trying to do something more with this article. First, I'd like to use the best sources available anywhere. This means editorial-reviewed books over web sources like afterellen.com or curvemag.com. imdb.com and amazon.com are not sufficient sources to verify that the material is lesbian (I saw the film, so I know it is, but bear with me here for a moment). Both imdb.com and amazon.com are user-generated sites, very much like wikis. Instead, a source should state that Fucking Amal is considered part of a milestone in portrayals of lesbianism. I would like a book to say it. I have more work to do on the article. I won't forget it, I promise. --Moni3 (talk) 18:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Prop 8 on Rick Warren page

Hi Phoenix of9. In hopes of facilitating consensus on the matter of how best to refer to California Prop 8 on the Rick Warren page, I wrote up a framework of seven points that I *think* interested editors agree on, and three points that I *think* interested editors disagree on, and put it on the discussion page. I'm hoping you'll return to that page and provide your input. Thanks.... Benccc (talk) 20:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Hi, Phoenix of9, thank you for all the efforts you have been making on these articles, i appreciate that you have asked for mediation and are doing good work to bring (hopefully more) objective eyeballs to the discussion. I'm sorry to say that i have become so fatigued with the whole debacle, i just can't find a good way to participate there anymore. I was going to write a reply to the mediator on the Talk:Rick Warren page, because i feel they have not addressed some primary issues (COI, censorship and whitewashing, etc) and i also feel they are noting complete irrelevant issues (i.e., whether or not any editors are "pro-gay-rights", which seems like a strange thing on which the mediator would comment, as they seem to be focusing on the editors rather than the edits.) But i just don't want to say anything further on those Rick Warren or SaddleBack Church pages because i just don't know how to contain my ire and indignation, and i'm afraid i will just "fan the flames" even more if i open my mouth again. I want to be supportive of you and any other editors who are attempting neutral objectivity and reliably sourced citations, but i'm sorry if i don't seem very helpful. Maybe the only way i can "help" is to avoid doing any harm to the principles of neutrality and civility. So i came here to your TalkPage to basically say i'm taking a bit of a wiki-break to keep out of trouble, and i am just ever so grateful that you and other editors have the energy to keep on pressing in the uphill struggle for fairness and ethical wikipedia activity. Thank you for being so productive, maybe at some future date i can find better ways to be involved, i am just glad there are people like you who are willing to spend the time and effort even when others of us grow so weary. Best wishes, Teledildonix314 ~ _4-1-1 22:47, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Damn. I guess we could just repeat my whole spiel from 23 February 2009. I'm going to chill out, before my head explodes into flames, i don't think i can handle that Mediation TalkPage right at this moment without expressing anger, and that won't help anybody, especially reasonable people like you, so i'll see you later after i cool down. Thanks for being a model of good patience. ~ Teledildonix314 ~ ~ _4-1-1 ~ 09:07, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Your characterization of other editors opinions

Your characterization of Lyonscc's opinion as "irrelevant" is out of order. I have warned you about this before, and I will not issue a further warning. Kevin (talk) 04:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Altered proposal

I think it will confuse things if you change proposed wordings that others have already supported, as it becomes unclear exactly what they supported. Perhaps you should add a 4th proposal. Re the proposal itself, I think that the second sentence should expand on the first and explain the reason for the criticism at least a little. Kevin (talk) 06:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Phoenix of9 (talk) 06:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Request for mediation accepted

A Request for Mediation to which you were are a party has been accepted. You can find more information on the case subpage, Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Rick Warren. For the Mediation Committee, Ryan Postlethwaite 20:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Careful please

You are quite rightly taking part in the Rick Warren mediation. It is important that your considered views are included so I would ask again that you please remember the previous advice given, including that from Kevin detailed above in the threads marked "Civility"/"Your characterization of other editors opinions" and not again say anything that could be considered a disparaging reference to the other editors.--VS 20:14, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Stow the wikitalk

If you have something to say, say it in plain English.

"Strong disapproval of homosexuality was reported for 41% of 42 cultures; it was accepted or ignored by 21%, and 12% reported no such concept. Of 70 ethnographies, 59% reported homosexuality absent or rare in frequency and 41% reported it present or not uncommon." Haiduc (talk) 12:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

And...This supports your addition how? Phoenix of9 (talk) 13:16, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I think our disagreement stems from the fact that you are using a statement referring to orientation in a way that incorrectly makes it seem applicable to homosexuality in general. Haiduc (talk) 00:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Orientation and behaviour are related closely. Also note that Homosexual orientation will be merged. I moved your stuff to history section. Give me like a week b4 making more changes. Phoenix of9 (talk) 11:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Misplaced Pages:New admin school/Rollback and Misplaced Pages:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. –Juliancolton |  21:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Nah, I just like to keep things operating smoothly. :) No worries, and best of luck with the new tool! –Juliancolton |  21:22, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

cookies for your great work

Mediation

Thanks for your continued good work on the mediation. Sunray (talk) 08:22, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Coat of arms of NRW

As I see it, neither alternative for that link is truly acceptable - the section of the river bears little relevance to a political area with a merely similar name (admittedly named after the same thing); whereas the only political area on which Misplaced Pages has information, is, as you correctly point out, a subset of the true area. We have a choice here - have a poor, (largely) irrelevant link or none at all. Both options don't actually add anything, IMO, to the enjoyment of the page. Do you have another view? - Jarry1250 20:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Yea, leave the link in coat of arms article and improve Rhine article. Phoenix of9 (talk) 22:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that Rhineland might actually be the best. If you compare these two maps:

it seems that the area Niederrhein is equivalent to Rhineland as now is. In my mind, that's the perfect political entity, because that makes there three distinct political areas - Rhineland, Westfalen/phalia and Lippe which match up with the current arms. Also the Rhine province used the same vert a bend wavy argent arms as here:

I can't find the arms of the state of Grand Duchy of the Lower Rhine, but one is left to assume the arms of the Rhine Province became the basis for North-Rhine Westphalia; for 'in 1946, the Rhine Province was divided up between the newly-founded states of North Rhine-Westphalia and Rhineland-Palatinate', so this leaves two options: use the area Rhineland as the area represented by that 'third' of the arms, or make it clear that it was the areas coming from the former state of Rhine Province that led to that third. - Jarry1250 16:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I've found my book of flags which states that 'The colours of the flag are taken from the arms which combine the symbols of the three parts of the state which are Rhineland (river), Westphalia (horse) and Lippe (rose)' so I definitely think the link should be to the Rhineland page. - Jarry1250 17:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)