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| A letter to Kimchi.sg | |||
| {{WikiProject Organizations}} | |||
| {{WikiProject Finance}} | |||
| Hello, | |||
| == Reinstatment of deleted page. == | |||
| I like to ask you to lift the Protection on Wokai's entry so that I can post a Wiki entry about this organization. | |||
| This page was previously deleted. The new page has no references to Wokai itself and makes no claims signifying notability. Re-nominated. | |||
| :*The previous deletion was a speedy, so that criteria does not apply, and this is the talk page anyway, put the tag on the actual article. ] (]) 05:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::*<nowiki>{{db-repost}}</nowiki> is for article deleted via AfD discussions only. The article may qualify for another speedy criteria, but not that one. ] (]) 05:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
| By looking at the logs and your talk history, I am not very clear of the reason why this entry was rejected for publication. The reason given to the rejection was: | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:CSD#A1 | |||
| If my best guest is correct, it is because "An article about a real person, an organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from | |||
| ==Notability?== | |||
| verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. " | |||
| Reason for initial deletion - notability - was addressed via updated external references list. Omitted all previous external resources except for first 2 verified as fulfilling notability policy. There are now multiple references to wokai itself and newly added statistics on the scope of wokai's lending. Please link to further discussion here] & welcome further discussion, thank you. | |||
| If so, here I am writing you to offer additional proof that Wokai is indeed qualified. | |||
| Additional external references to ] that support ]''' | |||
| *], Asian American Giving | |||
| *], Responsible China.com | |||
| *], Black and White | |||
| *] The Global Venture | |||
| *Wokai CEO presented at conference of industry experts: ] | |||
| *Wokai CEO presented at conference of industry experts: China Association of Microfinance, Oct 27, 2007 | |||
| 1. The organization is recognized by authorities (official or media) in both areas of operation (the U.S. and P.R. China) | |||
| ] (]) 05:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
| 2. The organization has everything an established nonprofit organization has: a leadership hierarchy, regular group members and volunteers at large. | |||
| 3. The organization has a history of operation and the impact to prove it | |||
| First, China official news media has covered Wokai since its | |||
| inception. All-China Women's Federation (already has a Wiki entry: | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/All-China_Women%27s_Federation) featured | |||
| two stories about Wokai: | |||
| - http://www.women.org.cn/allnews/1002/263.html | |||
| - http://www.women.org.cn/allnews/25/2632.html | |||
| Similarly Chinese central government's National Working Committee on | |||
| Children and Women under the State Council | |||
| (http://www.nwccw.gov.cn/html/news.html) also praised Wokai's work, | |||
| see http://www.nwccw.gov.cn/html/49/n-142249.html | |||
| In the U.S. where Wokai raises most of its fund for micro finance | |||
| loans, there have been increasing references in mainstream media. Most | |||
| recently, this article on San Francisco Chronicle featured Wokai and | |||
| its mission (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/13/BACB16VUFE.DTL). | |||
| Earlier, Melinda Liu, Newsweek Beijing bureau chief, wrote exclusively | |||
| about Wokai on the magazine's website | |||
| (http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/chinacalling/archive/2009/04/01/facebook-for-china-s-farmers.aspx) | |||
| Wokai has a list of recent media mentions that you can verify for | |||
| yourself: http://www.wokai.org/f/about/index.php?page=mediacenter | |||
| Secondly, Wokai governing hierarchy is available on its website | |||
| (http://www.wokai.org/f/about/index.php?page=team). There are already | |||
| about 80 people who are core members (including chapters in three cities), and the list of members at large and volunteers is growing. | |||
| Lastly, Wokai has raised close to a million dollars since its | |||
| inception (Fall 2007) As noted in the SF Chronicle article, | |||
| "Since they launched their site in November, 275 Wokai donors have donated | |||
| $25,000 to 60 rural Chinese entrepreneurs, helping them open noodle stands, | |||
| duck hatcheries and grain stores." | |||
| I could have listed more reasons why Wokai belongs to Wiki. However, | |||
| since you hold the Protection over Wokai entry, I would very much to | |||
| hear your thoughts and opinion. Let's start a discussion that will | |||
| lead to a productive results where we will a more refined entry and | |||
| the world will know more about Wokai. | |||
| Regards, | |||
| Bing Wu | |||
Revision as of 22:58, 22 April 2009
A letter to Kimchi.sg
Hello,
I like to ask you to lift the Protection on Wokai's entry so that I can post a Wiki entry about this organization.
By looking at the logs and your talk history, I am not very clear of the reason why this entry was rejected for publication. The reason given to the rejection was: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:CSD#A1
If my best guest is correct, it is because "An article about a real person, an organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. "
If so, here I am writing you to offer additional proof that Wokai is indeed qualified.
1. The organization is recognized by authorities (official or media) in both areas of operation (the U.S. and P.R. China) 2. The organization has everything an established nonprofit organization has: a leadership hierarchy, regular group members and volunteers at large. 3. The organization has a history of operation and the impact to prove it
First, China official news media has covered Wokai since its inception. All-China Women's Federation (already has a Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/All-China_Women%27s_Federation) featured two stories about Wokai: - http://www.women.org.cn/allnews/1002/263.html - http://www.women.org.cn/allnews/25/2632.html Similarly Chinese central government's National Working Committee on Children and Women under the State Council (http://www.nwccw.gov.cn/html/news.html) also praised Wokai's work, see http://www.nwccw.gov.cn/html/49/n-142249.html
In the U.S. where Wokai raises most of its fund for micro finance loans, there have been increasing references in mainstream media. Most recently, this article on San Francisco Chronicle featured Wokai and its mission (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/13/BACB16VUFE.DTL). Earlier, Melinda Liu, Newsweek Beijing bureau chief, wrote exclusively about Wokai on the magazine's website (http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/chinacalling/archive/2009/04/01/facebook-for-china-s-farmers.aspx)
Wokai has a list of recent media mentions that you can verify for yourself: http://www.wokai.org/f/about/index.php?page=mediacenter
Secondly, Wokai governing hierarchy is available on its website (http://www.wokai.org/f/about/index.php?page=team). There are already about 80 people who are core members (including chapters in three cities), and the list of members at large and volunteers is growing.
Lastly, Wokai has raised close to a million dollars since its inception (Fall 2007) As noted in the SF Chronicle article, "Since they launched their site in November, 275 Wokai donors have donated $25,000 to 60 rural Chinese entrepreneurs, helping them open noodle stands, duck hatcheries and grain stores."
I could have listed more reasons why Wokai belongs to Wiki. However, since you hold the Protection over Wokai entry, I would very much to hear your thoughts and opinion. Let's start a discussion that will lead to a productive results where we will a more refined entry and the world will know more about Wokai.
Regards,
Bing Wu