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Fuchsia City challenge

Drop me a note when you're done rewriting this. I saw the version you just posted, and it had me pondering what's appropriate for a list or not. (I'm not quite convinced that this isn't better suited to a list, but I wanted to let you finish rewriting.) - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 09:15, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Contrast the article as written with User:A Man In Black/Poketasks/Merge/List of places in Kanto. I'm ambivalent; I really feel the context is an aid to understanding and that places in Pokémon are way down the list of notable subjects, but this list would have 12-15 items on it, all about that length or so. (Note that some of them would be breakout See Alsos, similar to List of Pokémon items#Poké Ball.)

Your thoughts? Any worries about lost info here? - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 01:07, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Not specifically about information lost but anvigation is made lots more difficult. Fuchsia City is significantly longer than Professor Frink. 6-8 times the length of that?!? That will be huge. Almost as long as the Simpsons minor characters article. And that needs to be split up considerably. I think that they chould stay separate. --Celestianpower 09:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

*sigh* Someone went and spun off the Professor Frink listing from the big Simpsons character list, and it has all the problems I see with fancruft. It's a collection of useless, contextless factoids. The events of one episode (the hamburger earmuffs), his lab phone number, a one-off joke about how computers have improved in the last several decades; after the first two paragraphs, there's little that gives you any understanding or context, but instead random fannish factoids.
There's a point where minutae starts to obscure the meaning, and when you're talking about, say, a less-important one-off setting in a long-running series, there's a point where more data starts to turn into less meaning. Fancruft isn't just articles about things that don't bear encyclopedic mention; it's also data that doesn't contribute to understanding.
This is partially why I was disappointed (and also somewhat bemused) by the outcome of the Poképrosal; instead of coming to some sort of conclusion about why all the Pokémon articles should be kept, they were simply kept by default when everyone interested in establishing consensus went and actually worked on them for a bit. (Would that that would happen more often on Misplaced Pages.) The only downside is that a fairly silly standard (all Pokémon are notable) for notability was established by default, in the face of some fairly strong opposition to that idea.
While the notability of this or that Pokémon is water under the bridge (and, with the benefit of hindsight, the Pokémon species are better off as individual articles because there's really no better way to have them on Misplaced Pages other than cutting them down to extremely terse lists), it's not a standard that's reasonable when talking about every single person, place, and thing in the Pokémon world. It's one thing to have said "We're keeping (say) Beldum as a standalone article because it serves such-and-such purpose, despite the fact that it meets no standard of notability whatsoever" but it's another thing entirely to say "Beldum and all Pokémon-related persons, places, or things of equal or greater notability merit their own articles."
Fuchsia City, for example, is mentioned in passing in Pokémon Adventures, appears in one episode of the Pokémon anime, and isn't very important except as just another town in the games it appears in. It fails the Professor Frink standard of notability miserably, especially since the city itself is generic personalityless background in the anime/manga and has little claim to fame in the games other than its proximity to a more interesting place (the Safari Zone). Even if you can write an article's worth of things about it (and a significant amount of that article is episode synopses, I notice), it just doesn't bear its own article.

Okay, done arguing about notability. Without the Safari Zone stuff (which belongs in a Safari Zone article or listing) and the two-paragraph episode synopsis of ep 32, this article boils down to:

Fuchsia City (Japanese: セキチクシティ Sekichiku City) is a fictional city located in southeast Kanto, a region in the Pokémon world, and its motto is "Behold! It's Passion Pink!". The town is mainly notable for its proximity to the Safari Zone. Residents of Fuchsia City include Safari Zone owner Warden Slowpoke, the grandfather of Bill (the inventor of the Pokémon PC), and the local Gym Leaders Koga and Janine.

Koga is the Fuchsia City Gym Leader in Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow, Fire Red, and Leaf Green, as well as in the Pokémon anime and in Pokémon Adventures. He is replaced by his daughter, Janine, in Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal. Whichever of the two is in charge of the Gym, the Gym's interior is a confusing maze of invisible walls, supplemented with mirrors and pit traps in the anime.

In the video games, Fuchsia City is also noted as the only place to catch Gyarados in the wild, and as the first place in which the player can purchase Ultra Balls, the best Poké Balls that can be bought in the games. In Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, it is also home of the Move Deleter, who has the ability to make Pokémon unlearn any move, including HMs.

Other than the description of the Safari Zone (which is valuable information and would go into a proper description of the Safari Zone elsewhere) and the synopsis of exactly what happens in ep 32, is any significant information lost in this rewrite into list-appropriate form? - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 16:23, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

There would be a lot of entries (10ish?) in this list and, including the anime info which is important, would make for a very large page. I do agree with the principle of a merge but not the practicalities of it. Can we find a better way to merge them? If not, the separate articles would be the best sollution in my opinion. --Celestianpower 10:36, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Style on "trainer's Pokémon" sections

I noticed you added a table to Ash Ketchum#Ash's Pokémon, and, while I like the idea of reforming those horrid bulleted lists of Pokémon, I'm not sure a table is really that much better, visually. Have you seen what A Link to the Past was doing in Team Rocket#Jessie and James' Pokémon? Something about that style of chronological paragraphs with alternating anchor images seems to me to be somehow more encyclopedic than bulleted lists or tables.

I'm still of two minds on this one, though; any thoughts? - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 05:58, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Paragraphs are more encyclopedic, but the Pokémon that they own needs to be made clear. My idea has the same goal, to be more encyclopedic, but the only difference is that the text is just in a table. It's an improvement on before, and it looks nicer than my earlier work, such as on Brock's article. Team Rocket certainly looks good, but my main issue is that it fails to make all the Pokémon clear at a glance - something that the unencyclopedic lists did do right.

I think I'll put this on Talk:Team Rocket. Sonic Mew | talk to me 06:22, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, an congrats on becoming a sysop! Sonic Mew | talk to me 06:22, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Popups tool

Congratulations on being made an admin! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Misplaced Pages:Tools/Navigation popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is to paste the following into User:A Man In Black/monobook.js:

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             + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Lupin/popups.js' 
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There are more options which you can fiddle with listed at Misplaced Pages:Tools/Navigation popups. Give it a try and let me know if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! Lupin|talk|popups 14:58, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Here

For continued dedication to Misplaced Pages. Molotov (talk)
04:33, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Choco Orta

Since I noticed you closing afds anyway on recent changes, could I trouble you to close Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Choco Orta? It got forgotten on the October 6 page. —Cryptic (talk) 08:22, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

That looks to me to be a candidate for relisting instead of closing, but I'd be happy to take care of it. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 08:25, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Template:CVG character

Template:CVG character is an experiment I'm doing, to see how it would work. Each CVG character has a debut, and at least one debut game, and the vast majority have a signature technique. I was wondering if you would try it out a bit. >.> - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Some thoughts:

• How about one or two customizable fields, where you can fill in both the name of the row and the value for the row?
• It's sort of plain.
• It doesn't allow for a caption other than the character's name.
• You can't customize the image size.
• Age, height, and weight aren't going to apply to many, many characters, and in general it's not important information.
• The title is outside the box, not inside it, which bugs me.
• If you're going to show it off, you might want to make a temp page with some examples (I suggest Mario, Solid Snake, Cloud from FFVII, and Andy from Advance Wars, for a good variety.)
• It's awfully big for use in lists, limiting its utility to standalone articles.

Right now, it's a start, but I don't think it's ready for primetime. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 10:23, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, let's see...

Customizable fields - I have no problem with that, if you wish to add it, then you can.

Yes, I based it off of the contents of the FFVI templates. This would be my first template, IIRC.

Well, is there a way to fix that?

Read above.

There are a lot of eastern characters that have age, height and weight available, especially in games like Castlevania. Also, that's why the info should be there - better to the side than right in the middle, right?

Well, that's how FFVI's was, so that could be changed.

Okay, I'll do Wario, Simon Belmont, Cloud (Final Fantasy VII), Phoenix Wright and Andy (Advance Wars) (after all, I like Wario and Phoenix Wright lots). Thanks for the input.

On an unrelated note, I've been told that Nell and Caroline (of SFC) are unrelated, outside of appearance. Apparently, Caroline (of SFC) is a mistranslation, or something. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Return/reattempt.

I have returned from my short self-imposed exile and am feeling quite refreshed. I appreciated your comments on IRC greatly. Could you please review my contributions to the Suicide articles and templates and tell me what you think of my approach this go around? Thank you very much for your time. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:32, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Great to see you're back! I saw your edits on Suicide methods, and I think that this is definitely the way to go. Stay cool, don't rise to attacks, and stick to pushing for verifiability, readability, and accuracy, and I think things should go well. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 16:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Please review Template:Suicide and Template talk:Suicide. I continue to appreciate your input. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:31, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Anything in particular you want me to look at? I think the protection is a valid one, as it's not really appropriate for you and Philwelch to be edit warring. :/ Sn0wflake protected the version he/she didn't like, so that's, IMO, the right call in this situation. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 17:36, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Do you consider me and Mr. Welch to be in an edit war? I believe we were discussing things on talk. I would have been happy for him to attempt to reach consensus with me on the template. I believe I had made serious consessions before even beginning discussions, and made substantial consessions after. I guess I was wrong to come back, as I feel exactly the same way again. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I personally would call what I see in the history of Template:Suicide an edit war, but it would not be inappropriate to describe it as one. I don't see any problems now, though; the discussion on the talk page is vehement but healthy (and personal-attack free, as far as I can see), and this seems like it will be resolved with as little mess as possible. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 17:57, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I suspect that the other side of the disagreement will disapear for the duration of the protection, only to return when it is removed, else they will stand fast an unmoving to their initial offer (I get nothing, while I continually adress objection after objection) and then continue to stonewall when the page protection is removed. I am eager to be proven wrong. Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

If you feel that way, have you considered taking this to the Medcom or the Mediation Cabal, to resolve this? - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 18:18, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I intend to when the protection is removed if my predections turn out to be correct. Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

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Sounds like a good plan. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 18:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Splitting edits

Thanks for the advice. Copperchair 21:57, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Naruto Revert

Hey, just wanted to let you know I reverted your revert on the Naruto page. JadziaLover removed an out-of-place link to an external Naruto image, so I'm not quite sure why you reverted his edit. Let me know if you want to discuss it on my talk page. Thanks! --mdd4696 01:04, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Probably by mistake; the servers have been acting up all day, and I thought I was the one who deleted that out-of-place link. Weird. Well, anyway, I don't want it there either. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 01:08, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Intense frisbee

Hello: Please do not edit my comments on AfD pages, such as by removing the strike-throughs that I have put in place. Thank you.—Gaff 03:51, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Um? I thought all I did is fix the fact that you broke the formatting when you struck your old votes. <s> tags need to go in between the intent/bullet Wikimarkup and the text, or else you break the indent/bulleted list. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 17:48, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Warhammer

Holy mother of God! I had no idea there was *that* much Warhammer on Wiki! It defies all sense. Any alien visiting would be forced to conclude from the volume of text that Warhammer was the planet's dominant religion and foremost recreational activity! - Just zis Guy, you know? 18:44, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Pokémon, Star Wars, Gundam, the Simpsons, even Series of Unfortunate Events. I've been merging all sorts of fictional people, places, and things into lists, but there's always more that needs to be done. I was just adding illustrations to List of Advance Wars COs, which once was a series of about a half-dozen articles. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 18:48, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Hindu_rajputs

Why did you delete the hindu_rajputs page? And being an admin why are you not worried that people are not providing citiations for there edits and those who do provide them are being labelled as POV pushers and other adjectives.

-- Shivraj Singh 18:51, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm comfortable that Goethean will be able to mediate this dispute. I feel no need to intervene save to limit the spread of this particular dispute. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 18:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Are you kidding me. Goethean has a provable anti hindu bias and yet Zora/Gothean etc have not pointed out a single statement of mine which has a anti-muslim bias or proves I am pushing POV or hindutva agenda. They have been talking generalizations "shades of grey/black and white" etc but no precise quotations from my writings to prove there point. If you don the robes of an admin and decide to take an action, like deleting a very well researched article, you need to make sure you have enough knowledge on the subject to not appear a partisan.

Shivraj Singh 12:26, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

monobook

Sorry - it seems that it prefers Firefox! --Celestianpower 19:40, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Pic uploads

Hi,

Could you add source URLs for the Advance Wars headshot pics you've uploaded? That'll make it more clear that the Promo tag applies.

Thanks - Tempshill 19:44, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I would, but these are off of a press CD-ROM I was given at E3 earlier this year, not from any website. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 19:52, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Speedy closing of the AfD Marianne (1996 song)

I know how a merge is supposed to happen, thanks. I was soliciting input from the community about whether or not a merge was a better solution than a delete. Maybe I should have made that more clear. Sorry. --Jacqui 01:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Page remerge

A user did a cut-and-paste move for PUCK_MAN form Puck-man. Request your assistane in remerging the page histories, or hell, killing the page altogether. I did a redirect move for Puck-Man to Pac-Man but was overruled again. Hbdragon88 05:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I honestly don't know how to fix this mess. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 06:37, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

But...but...you're the ADMINISTRATOR!!!shift-one!!! *runs around in circles* Hbdragon88 03:57, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Block of User:12.75.252.17

Regarding the block of User:12.75.252.17, it's very likely based on the IP range that this is one of the admins from the Prussian Blue forums, who was also responsible for causing the Prussian Blue (American duo) article to be locked. Unfortunately his IP seems to be relatively dynamic so I'm not sure how useful the block will be useful for :( chowells 12:01, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

It's something, at least. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 12:04, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Immovable Celt

"Celtic1 is inexhaustible and immobile. I fear your efforts may be in vain. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 12:12, 28 October 2005 (UTC)2

I fear you are right; its like trying to get the Orange Order not to march down the Garvaghy Road (my apoligies to the O.O.). But I take a very Roman/Oscar Wilde view of things like this, and being smart is my way at getting back at bullys like him. Plus, I am actually trying to teach him something. Throw enough mud and some will stick, et al ... Thanks anyway, mate, its appreicated. Tune in soon for the next exciting episode!Fergananim 12:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Later: His response proved you right (again). Its always highly amuseing to see the way people of a certain calibre deal with facts. Guess that's why so many of them turn to voilence, be it domestic or political. Easier to beat someone up rather than win via superior logic. Some things never change ...Fergananim 17:55, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, you were right. Somehow, he convinced himself that he destroyed my argument point-by-point without manageing to assemble a single factual peice of evidence (must have spent at lotta time at 1600 Pen. Avenue recently ...). I willingly concede that I used tempermental language while doing so, but only because his nasty remarks set me off. I know, I still should have chilled. And I did'nt even start out like that; I genuinely asked an honest question to begin with.

People who say history is boreing are as dumb as posts; look at the passions it unearths. Thanks for your time. Fergananim 13:11, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

No cabal?

Well, that's a nice (but non-existent) idea and I wish you best of luck with it (if it existed in the first palce). However I should note that its (hallucinatory) membership roster already contains some people well-known for doing the exact opposite of what the (illusory) cabal stands for. FYI. Radiant_>|< 01:09, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

MIB, I'm not sure if we've "met", but I do monitor a lot of video game-related pages. In doing so, I've noticed that you are consistently one of the more level-headed and good-intentioned editors in such articles. For that, I've been intending to offer you this a Barnstar, but have, alas, been too busy. Well, I found a spare moment; so, here. You deserve it! BrianSmithson 02:10, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Postcode articles

The UK postcode articles are partly a navigation thing. See the London areas for a fully completed example. If you link in from a town page then the information will not seem like a big expansion (section of the town you've been reading about, or in rural areas a group of communities).

The template covering the postcode region (e.g. CM, RM etc.) allows investigation of the postal structure for adjacent areas. Users can also end up following through to information having started with the postcode instead of the town.

As a particular example, redirecting CM4 to Ingatestone is not appropriate because it neglects sizable communities such as Blackmore (some distance away) or Margaretting (in a different borough). Although the number of words was low the information was significant.

Mauls 23:25, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, so those were supposed to be disambig pages to all the communities those postcodes cover? Then I suggest you recreate them as proper disambiguation pages, rather than as standalone articles. Just redirect the ones that only apply to one place, then dismbig the ones that cover multiple. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 11:07, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but no... it was also a form of navigation structure: the template allowing sideways jumps through the postcode structure - I didn't originate the postcode structure, but I expanded it a bit, and linked it to the town and village articles (and vice-versa) to make it more useful. It's more than just disambiguation. Mauls 20:13, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Why not make the postcode entries dab/redirects, and add the postcode navbox to the articles for the cities? That way, you don't have contentless, unexpandable stubs, but the navigation works just as well. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 00:33, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Inclusion

Hi there MiB, your comments about Yakov Liebermann made me think a little about these things. The reason that I voted keep for the bus stop and the dorm, is that I do not believe that these issues need to come to AFD, not necessarily that I believe that we need articles about on these things. The dorm should definiately be merged into an article on archetecture of whatever university it was, with a redirect, unless there is so much verifiable material that splitting it out makes sense, but that is better done in a different forum. Likeise the bus stop should definately be redirected to whatever the next level article is, until it outgrows it with verifiable information. I think most public buildings have relatively little information about them that is not original research, so most of them will appear, if at all, as part of a higher level article. Since WP is not a repository of sources, I wouldn't see the point in listing every public building if the only information we have about them is that they exist. The amount of verifiable material about each building will determine whether an article can be written, or whether it should be merged. Does that help? It isn't that I want endless stubs about un-interesting places, although I don't think factual articles about places in which I am not interested do any harm. Trollderella 15:43, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Usually when someone votes keep, they intend that the article be kept as a standalone article, unless specifically mentioned otherwise. I understand better what you mean, now. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 21:53, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my userpage... Too bad they didn't finish the AfD, heh heh heh.--Isotope23 18:50, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Hee, yeah. I had to stop someone from AFDing an AFD page, too, the same day. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 21:53, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

If you have a second

Could you take a look at the links added by anon IP 69.201.181.152 to Knot theory, Topology, and Knot? User added links to Rosa Parks and some other articles where the referenced papers from the external link had only an ancillary mention of the topics. THose other three might be on topic though... I don't think so, but before I remove the links, I thought I'd get an outside opinion from a couple of people (you and User:Jacqui M Schedler). If you have a chance at some point, could you take a look and let me know what you think? Thanks!--Isotope23 16:48, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Not sure why you're asking my opinion, as I'm totally clueless on the subject. Sorry about that... - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 00:35, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

What I told the Wookieepedian

What I told him was NOT to continue edit warring; rather, I told him something along the lines of "continue to restore to the consensus version*, but do NOT blindly revert every single edit" since Copperchair occasionally makes useful grammar and spelling corrections. He took this advice as carte blanche to continue blind reverts, which I already chastised him for twice.

• Yes, I firmly believe there is at least an ad hoc consensus on this issue. WP:WIN a democracy and all, but there are four users in favour of the credits with Wedge, and one in favour of them without. I'd say that counts for something, at least.--chris.lawson 02:04, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

irc channel pages removal

regarding your decision to select irc pages for removal, the page you've put for deletion refers to, and got the original idea from another irc channel page that started shortly before #scripture page. I think all irc channel pages should share the same fate if it is deemed that they are not worthy of their own pages without some sort of stronger defining reason for their existance? 81.132.36.120 03:18, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, okay. I'll make sure to nominate that one, too, when I get around to it. I can't imagine any Undernet channel being an encyclopedic topic unto itself. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 03:22, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Schools

Hi, would you please consider reviewing and adding proposed ideas, on how to deal with school articles. I'm hoping there's some renewed interest, that's not a fight. Rather than start with arguements, I would like to start with people laying out some proposals they think might work. Even if you're sure I, and other will oppose it, please do put forward your ideas. I'm hoping we can put out a bunch of ideas, and move on any where agreement exists (without letting disagreements on other points, stand in the way). --rob 11:23, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Gothic Metal And Accusation of Sock Puppets

I am fine with the banning of both me and user Dante until this is sorted, as i have mentioned to Dante to pool our knowledge. I am however offended by the accusation of using Sock Puppets as i have no connection to these users other than user Porkchop who i have worked with on an international basis concerning various projects and have contact with through the program Soulseek. I resent the accusation of using Sock Puppets in all forms and ask for this accusation to be striken. ~~Leyasu

Wha? I'm not accusing anyone of anything but revert warring, and nobody's going to be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages (by me, anyway). I just protected the article so people would stop revert warring. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops)

To liven up your talk page

I sent one of my wolverines to liven up your talk page since you mentioned on IRC that it was boring. Enjoy! — Phil Welch 22:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Huh

Why did you "Reverted edits by Prodego to last version by 70.84.51.234" and revert to vandalism? Or did I do something wrong?

Prodego 23:19, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

19:06, 8 November 2005 A Man In Black (→Regulars - removing unecyclopedic vanity list) 

Isn't Mario & Luigi the Super Mario Brothers? - Just zis  Guy, you know? / (W) AfD? 13:21, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, yeah, but it's also the name of two games starring Mario and Luigi. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 13:24, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

See? I told you my ignorance of computer games was encyclopaedic :-) Seriously, I am well-known around my circle of friends for not playing games despite having an improbable number of computers in my house. My kids play, I don't. - Just zis  Guy, you know? / (W) AfD? 14:02, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey, don't worry about it too badly; one of those two games hasn't been released yet. I'd merge those two, but there's no point; they'd end up split again in a few months, when the second game is released in the US. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 14:05, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Schools

I'll take a look - I value being able to disagree vigorously sometimes and maintain a respectful and, I hope, constructive, dialogue, see you around, I like your work! Trollderella 19:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Great, I'm glad you're interested in discussion. It was starting to degenerate into "Well, we win all the AFDs, so we don't have to justify anything to anyone;" and I was just at a loss responses when that was even the response to no-content-lost merge proposals. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 06:37, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Related, Afd and WP:BIO

You might be interested in the proposed change to WP:BIO to allow election hopefuls as well as office holders. That change has beenr everted, by the way. - Just zis  Guy, you know? / (W) AfD? 17:57, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

"Kwsn" block

Yup, you got it right. The reason I blocked that guy was because his very first edit was a reposting of a frequently deleted nonsense article. BTW, if at any time you feel a block of mine is out of order, by all means feel free to revert it. You won't hurt my feelings.  :) - Lucky 6.9 01:03, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Blocking of anonymous vandal

Just FYI I placed a temporary block on the anon user 210.100.226.249 who placed the material below on several user talk pages. (I'll let you decide whether to delete it or not). As per Misplaced Pages rules, however, the block can only be for 15 minutes so this anon may strike again. 23skidoo 15:03, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I was wondering what was up. Whatever it is, I've got enough on my plate as it is. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 15:15, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Language dispute

Dear anon interested in Romanian/Moldovian/whatever:

I'm not interested in mediating this dispute. Please don't cut and paste any more massive textdumps on my talk page. Thank you. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 15:15, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Unsigned2Tz

Hey, was Unsigned2Tz supposed to be a template? Why is this in the article namespace? - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 17:28, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

oops! Thanks. Yes I was starting a template. I have moved it to the template namespace. DES 17:45, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Help wanted!

I have a problem over at Simon Wessley. UserL84.9.60.246 and user:The One Click Group, a name linked with the content of the page, are insistent on inserting POV and defamatory text. I reverted to a stub a couple of times but was accused of vandalism so I spent osme coniderable time fixing some of the worst excesses. The user is still reinserting the disputed text, thoguh by copy & paste not reversion. I have now reverted it more than three times over the history (though to different versions), and they are still doing it.

An example of their "improved" version: "Professor Wessely has stretched the meaning of the English language while attempting to explain that ME although a ‘real’ illness, is often first imagined. He has trodden the tightrope of confusing semantics with the balance of Blondel and the focus of a train spotter."

As I said to the guy who accused me of vandalism, in Misplaced Pages terms, a stub is better than a defamatory rant, IMO, but as I say I have tried to clean it up and this user (I think they are almost certainly one and the same) is still adding what I can only describe as shit. See http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Simon_Wessely&diff=28338748&oldid=28338274 - this is a paragraph-level copy & paste reversion. The user will not seem to allow anything other than the "authorised version" (i.e. their view). I don't want to get nto an edit war over an issue on which I hold no strong opinion, but I'm stuffed if I'm going to let a soapbox get past! What next? - Just zis  Guy, you know? / (W) AfD? 23:42, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing. The user who called "vandalism" id user:Pobidoq. Guess what? No edit history outside this one article. Isn't that a funny coincidence? - Just zis  Guy, you know? / (W) AfD? 23:44, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm the man to help you with this one, I don't think, plus I've got some other stuff going on. Sorry about this. :/ - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 06:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Any suggestions? - Just zis  Guy, you know? / (W) AfD? 08:21, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Go on IRC and bother someone into taking it off your hands? - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 08:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't even have an irc client, I don't use IM either, but never mind - someone saw this discussion and stepped in (thanks, Martin Osterman - and no less than Jimbo, we are not worthy!) - Just zis  Guy, you know? / (W) AfD? 19:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

St John's Church AFD

Hi there. I was the 'odd-man-out' vote to merge on this AFD, so I suppose I was the only one to get what I wanted. So thanks, I guess. Perodicticus 11:19, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Beautiful close (and M&D). :) encephalon 11:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Copperchair's back at it

If you hadn't noticed, as soon as the block expired, Copperchair immediately began reverting all changes to the various Star Wars articles that he disagreed with. I don't know if he's been re-blocked, but if not, it's probably time for a month off. The week break didn't teach him anything, obviously. I was putting together a list of diffs to add to the RfAr, but accidentally closed the window. Quite honestly, he's not worth my time. I have better ways to improve Misplaced Pages than proving to the ArbCom one problem user should be blocked.--chris.lawson 22:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Please do cover at least one day of reverts; it helps show that this isn't a content dispute, but a one-man disruptive crusade set against a group of people who oppose it. I didn't know he was back at it; I'm going to review the history and block if necessary (and it will be necessary if what you say is true). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:32, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Can you double-check your edit on Misplaced Pages talk:Schools

Could you review this rollback/revert. I think you might have accidently reverted more than you intended. --Rob 22:46, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Why on EARTH did I revert that? Yikes! I'll restore those comments ASAP! - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Jewish lists

Hi, Jewish people are a diaspora and ethnicity just like African Americans. If you do not think that African American lists should be deleted then please change your vote on these lists. Arniep 18:20, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't feel "Lists of (religion/ethnicity) (profession)" are useful navigation tools. I believe I've said this before, repeatedly, and I'm not inclined to change how I feel about this without an actual effort to refute that statement or convince me. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 13:55, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually, it wasn't me - I left myself logged in and my flatmate used the PC. However, I entirely agree with my flatmate. The existence of an AfD is a commentary so a comment on its existence (as opposed to its merits) belongs with it. - RachelBrown 16:02, 18 November 2005 (UTC)