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You wrote this in my talk page:

Moreover, once again: personal theories are not allowed at Misplaced Pages. When you change correct informations to incorrect ones, like this , another disruption. Plase, read carefully all the rules of Misplaced Pages, before posting. Opinoso (talk) 17:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Notice that this has nothing to do with any personal theory of my part. Nor did I remove any information. I merely added a Fact Tag to a piece of unsourced information. If it is true that most settlers in Brazil "jumped ship to live among the Indians", which is possible, then it should not be difficult to find sources for that information. Donadio (talk) 18:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikiquette Alert

Please notice I have filed a complaint about your latest personal attacks against me. Donadio (talk) 01:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I am composing this stern warning for both of you at this point, as we've already visited these issues in ANI in the past. Opinoso, I've recommended that Donadio bring his concerns before the WP:3O peers, for 3rd party opinion. Hopefully, this will help put to rest any content disputes that are ongoing at White Brazilian. In the meantime, I would remind you to;

• Remain civil,
• Assume good faith,
• Avoid personal attacks.

Something that you might want to also do at this point is apologize for any misconceptions or slights that have been issued or perceived. I'm not saying that either party is guilty of this (far be it from me to be judge and jury, too many hats!), nor am I saying that you have to apologize to make this work, but it would aid in promoting the process. Edit Centric (talk) 07:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

ANI

Hello, Opinoso. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Jauerback/_dude. 12:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

calling edits vandalism

You're being talked about at ANI. The meaning of vandalism on en.Misplaced Pages is narrow. Please don't call cited, good faith edits vandalism. It's true that sometimes, if the PoV of an edit is far from your own, is cited to an unreliable source or mistakenly cited to a reliable one, it may seem like vandalism to you, but unless the edit is straightforwardly meant to harm the project, it may indeed be astray of many policies and guidelines, but it's not vandalism. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

It looks to me as though you are both straying from policy.

• Don't make personal attacks.
• Don't remove or change other editors' posts from talk pages
• Don't call good faith edits vandalism.
• Don't try to own a page.
• You may not agree with all reliable sources, but WP:V has sway here.
• Edit by consensus.

Gwen Gale (talk) 16:54, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

"It's not a serious user" may sound ok when translated back into Portugese but in English, on en.Misplaced Pages, it could easily be taken as a personal attack. Please stop that. If you're the only user other than Donadio editing the article, then your edits have no consensus over his. I have yet to say anything at all so far about the content, only your behaviour and his. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:32, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Languages of Brazil

According to you Spanish is not an "unofficial" language of Brazil. However, the article clearly states that it is spoken in the regions boarding Argentina and Paraguay.Mitch1981 (talk) 09:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

ANI notification

There's a discussion about you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Changing_content_on_other_people.27s_Talk_Page. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 12:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

what is vandalism?

Hi Opinoso, I've told you about this before, see above, so if you've already stopped doing this, please forgive me. edits like this are not vandalism They may be original research, unsourced or wrong, they may be disruptive or tendentious, they may look like vandalism to you and you may think they should be called vandalism, but they are made in good faith and hence are not vandalism on en.Misplaced Pages (please read this blue link if you haven't already done). Calling an edit vandalism when it is not can be taken as a personal attack, no matter how unhelpful that edit may otherwise be. If you have questions about this, please ask me. Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 15:37, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

White Brazilian

Please don't edit war at White Brazilian. Moreover, you're making comments about the editor, rather than writing only about content and sources. These comments could be taken as personal attacks, which aren't allowed. Please use the article talk page to discuss content with the editor. Thanks. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:21, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hi Opinoso. Many of your recent edits have lacked edit summaries. These are easy to provide and very helpful. They're particularly important when you're editing an article over which there's a disagreement. As you know, many of your recent edits have been to such articles. Please provide edit summaries, as these not only help people understand what you are doing but also show how helpfully informative you are trying to me. Thank you. -- Hoary (talk) 11:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

edit warring

Opinoso, you're still edit warring at German Brazilian and White Brazilian. Please stop that. Rather, talk about the content on the article talk pages, or find a new way to deal with the content, don't revert, you've done that far too much already and it's not helpful. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

yet more edit warring

This edit of yours is bizarre. There is no blanket rule against removal of factual, sourced information. And this information, while it may be factually correct, isn't even sourced. The relevant section of the article starts by referring the reader to Riograndenser Hunsrückisch for more information; this section of an article on a dialect of German certainly does not benefit from asides about Brazilian society, education policy, etc.

The last time I encountered you was on 30 May, when you and Donadio were edit warring at German Brazilian. Because of this, the following day I constructed one sandbox for you and one for him. He has used his. You have studiously ignored yours. I also wrote: I shall take a particularly dim view of any potentially controversial edit to an article on any ethnic group in Brazil (or any other closely related matter) as long as this article is protected. After a few days of lying low, this is just what you seem to be doing.

Edit wars are a waste of time and resources. So stop edit warring. And either edit your sandbox at Talk:German Brazilian, or provide a persuasive explanation there of why you are not doing so.

Alternatively, keep on going the way you are going now, and look forward to being blocked. -- Hoary (talk) 12:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Moroever, as you have been told many times before, don't comment on the editor, only on content and sources. Gwen Gale (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)