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| # Media Man is a promoter - therefore he can not really be considered reliable under ] and maybe ] although the latter applies more to wrestling in general rather than the subject | # Media Man is a promoter - therefore he can not really be considered reliable under ] and maybe ] although the latter applies more to wrestling in general rather than the subject | ||
| # I query the Wrestlecrap references on the basis of ] given that it's intent is to mock and make fun of subjects, leading automatically to issues of a blurring of the line between fact and opinion. | # I query the Wrestlecrap references on the basis of ] given that it's intent is to mock and make fun of subjects, leading automatically to issues of a blurring of the line between fact and opinion. | ||
| # References 9 and 10 refer in the main to house shows. So called feuds through house shows were never notable. The number of television appearances was severely limited, even for a jobber as I believe Stilsbury to be. Other jobbers got more exposure |
# References 9 and 10 refer in the main to house shows. So called feuds through house shows were never notable. The number of television appearances was severely limited, even for a jobber as I believe Stilsbury to be. Other jobbers got more exposure than this, and they don't have articles here either - as they shouldn't. | ||
| # I'll check the date, but the "win" over the Iron Sheik was around the time he was suspended along with Jim Duggan for marijuana possesion (IIRC). So that was not notable under the circumstances. The Sheik would have been booked to win that match otherwise. | # I'll check the date, but the "win" over the Iron Sheik was around the time he was suspended along with Jim Duggan for marijuana possesion (IIRC). So that was not notable under the circumstances. The Sheik would have been booked to win that match otherwise. | ||
| # Reference 4 is trivia and does nothing for the article at all. | # Reference 4 is trivia and does nothing for the article at all. | ||
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Statement
I maintain that Peter Stilsbury AKA Outback Jack is not notable. Via an AfD, a consensus was reached that agreed with my view. However one member who opposed the deletion insists on going against this consensus, and in the process violates WP:NPOV. I have noted his saved version and there are the following major problems with it;
- Reference number 2 is actually credited back to Misplaced Pages so it can't be used.
- Reference 12 was not an interview. It was an email sent to the webmaster and I doubt it fulfils the requirements of WP:RS.
- Media Man is a promoter - therefore he can not really be considered reliable under WP:NPOV and maybe WP:COI although the latter applies more to wrestling in general rather than the subject
- I query the Wrestlecrap references on the basis of WP:RS given that it's intent is to mock and make fun of subjects, leading automatically to issues of a blurring of the line between fact and opinion.
- References 9 and 10 refer in the main to house shows. So called feuds through house shows were never notable. The number of television appearances was severely limited, even for a jobber as I believe Stilsbury to be. Other jobbers got more exposure than this, and they don't have articles here either - as they shouldn't.
- I'll check the date, but the "win" over the Iron Sheik was around the time he was suspended along with Jim Duggan for marijuana possesion (IIRC). So that was not notable under the circumstances. The Sheik would have been booked to win that match otherwise.
- Reference 4 is trivia and does nothing for the article at all.
I won't go into the edit war with the user involved in detail in this statement, pending a resolution to the issue.