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Hello- How are you. This guy Scheinwerfermann is a nut. In a discussion to change an article title I opened ] he didn't like my comments on the talk page...he opened up a full page lecture right on the article talk page!!!!check it out (by the way I didn't know you couldn't message other editors to vote and i apologised on the talk page and in the discussion....then he proceeded to edit the Vega article from head to toe last night and I didn't revert anything that helps article....then he opens up a discussion incidents for adminstrators review. He is really out of control. Something has to be done about this guy. Could anyone contribute to this administators discussion? If so can you mention that we have been working on the Vega article and I din't revert edits from others including you. ] (]) 03:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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I think this is long overdue. I appreciate what you have done and I would like to recognize the efforts of editors that contribute and aren't a part of the Wikiproject Automobile cabal.
Hi Typ932. The James Hunt picture looks OK. It's definitely a McLaren M26 and number 7 is the right number for the 1978 British GP (he drove an M23 with number 11 in the 1976 race). I'll update the description of the Lauda pic at commons. DH85868993 (talk) 10:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Temporary injunction and your use of my monobook script
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I am pleased to see that you have used my monobook script; I hope you've found it useful.
This is to let you know that ArbCom has announced a temporary injunction against the "mass delinking of dates". You can still delink dates on an occasional basis; however, you may wish to be cautious and use the script only for its non-date functions until the issue is resolved by an RFC poll. You may wish to express your view on autoformatting and date linking in the RFC at: Misplaced Pages:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll.
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Hamilton maintained his startline advantage and led until he made his first pit stop on lap 18. As other cars made their pit stops, Hamilton regained the lead on lap 22. On lap 36 Timo Glock crashed, and the race was neutralized by the deployment of the safety car. Hamilton, on a two-stop strategy, did not stop to get more fuel during this period, while all the cars around him did. Thus when he did eventually stop on lap 50, he rejoined the race in fifth. In the closing stages of the race, Hamilton overtook first his team-mate Heikki Kovalainen, then Massa, and finally Piquet, to take the lead again on lap 60, which he maintained to win the race.
The victory was Hamilton's second consecutive win, having won the preceding British Grand Prix at Silverstone. The win put him ahead of his two main rivals in the Drivers' Championship, Kimi Räikkönen (who finished sixth) and Massa of Ferrari, who were on equal points with him before the race. After the race he was four points ahead of Räikkönen, and seven ahead of Massa. In the Constructors' Championship, McLaren drew closer to the two teams ahead of them, BMW Sauber and Ferrari. Ferrari still led by 15 points from McLaren, and 12 from BMW, whose drivers – Nick Heidfeld and Robert Kubica – finished fourth and seventh respectively.
† After the race, Trulli was originally given a 25-second penalty for passing Lewis Hamilton (4th, +2.914) under yellow flags. However, due to misleading the stewards, Hamilton was disqualified and Trulli's penalty was overturned.
* Timo Glock (1:26.975, 6th) and Trulli (1:27.127, 8th) were both disqualified from qualifying and sent to the back of the grid, as their Toyotas' rear wing elements were in breach of the rules.
The race was red flagged on lap 33 and the results were taken from lap 31.
* Sebastian Vettel (3rd, 1:35.518) got a 10 place grid penalty for his collision with Kubica at the previous Grand Prix.
^ Rubens Barrichello (4th, 1:35.651) got a 5 place grid penalty for a gearbox change.
I just went through and restored revisions prior to User:Jmcd88's edits on the Saturn-related articles. Because no definitive decision has yet been reported regarding the company or its models, we should revert and not {{fact}} tag speculative edits until reliable sourcing confirms actual decisions have been made. user:j (aka justen) 06:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Yup, you're exactly right. Can you help me keep an eye on those articles for a while just in case the same problem creeps up again? (The Saturn Corporation article has had quite a few issues over the past few days along these lines.) They're on my watchlist, as well. Take care. user:j (aka justen) 06:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
"Information found at corresponding Japanese Misplaced Pages article" declaration
'ello,
Just so you know, the reason why I put that in is so another editor doesn't try to dispute the information, tag it and then try to remove it, claiming there are no in-text citations. I got the info from Japawikipedia and that's the source.
Would using the Japanese word for "Japan", or "Nippon" be objectionable, since other uses of the word Japan are already used?(Regushee (talk) 14:38, 6 May 2009 (UTC))
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The race began with Kubica in pole position alongside Massa; Lewis Hamilton, the eventual Drivers' Champion, started from third, alongside Räikkönen. Kubica was passed by Massa into the first corner, and then by Räikkönen on the third lap. The Ferraris dominated at the front of the race, leading to their one-two finish. Hamilton had a slow start after almost stalling on the grid, and dropped back to ninth. The McLaren driver ran into the back of Fernando Alonso's Renault a lap later, breaking off the McLaren's front wing and dropping Hamilton to the back of the field.
Kubica's strong finish promoted BMW Sauber to the lead in the Constructors' Championship, after BMW driver Nick Heidfeld finished fourth. Ferrari and McLaren trailed, one and two points behind, respectively. Räikkönen took the lead in the Drivers' Championship, with 19 points, three points ahead of Heidfeld and five ahead of Hamilton, Kubica and Kovalainen, with 15 races remaining in the season.
I saw in this diff that you added an "accessmonthday" and/or "accessdaymonth" parameter. Please be informed that these are deprecated. The preferred way is to put day, month, and year together in the "accessdate" parameter. Thank you, Debresser (talk) 02:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
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Massa claimed pole, with teammate Räikkönen fourth, the two Ferrari cars sandwiching the McLarens of Heikki Kovalainen and Hamilton. At the first corner Räikkönen clipped Kovalainen's rear tyre and gave him a puncture. The safety car was deployed on the first lap, after a collision, but only remained out for one lap. During the course of the race, Hamilton, intending to make one more pit stop than both Ferrari drivers, was faster than Massa due to carrying a lighter fuel load and overtook him on lap 24. After Hamilton had made his third pit stop, he rejoined in second behind Massa but in front of the Championship leader, Räikkönen. Massa won the race, with Hamilton 3.779 seconds behind, and Räikkönen a further half-second behind. The two BMW Sauber cars of Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld took fourth and fifth.
In the week running up to the grand prix, the Super Aguri team had withdrawn from Formula One, due to financial problems, leaving the sport with only ten teams. Massa's victory was his third consecutive pole position and victory in Turkey, having also won the race from pole in 2006 and 2007. This was also Rubens Barrichello's 257th Grand Prix start, breaking Riccardo Patrese's previous record of 256. Due to the race result, Räikkönen's lead in the Drivers' Championship was lowered to seven points. Massa rose to second from fourth, whilst Hamilton dropped to third, both drivers tying on 28 points but separated by Massa's two wins thus far to Hamilton's one. In the Constructors' Championship, Ferrari increased their lead to 22 points ahead of BMW Sauber, with McLaren a further two points behind in third.
Regarding you reverting my good faith edits in the article, Fiat. i have got two refrences that say that Fiat and Tata were to build Global Pick Up and the Fiat Terra/Tata Xenon is that vehicle. It is assembled in a renault factory in argentina and in a tata factory in thailand. if you are satisfied then ill add the info again.--Enthusiast10 (talk) 08:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Tata and Fiat planned to develop a global pick up jointly. The xenon was first showcased in bologna in 2008 and it was released across released in India and South Africa late 2008. In feb, 2009 Xenon was released in the rest of Africa, Indian Subcontinent, Venenzuela, Argentina and southern europe including spain and italy. Xenon was assembled in Thailand untill Fiat decided to let the Xenon to be assembled in Fiat's factory in Argentina. As my sources say the Fiat Terra in to be released sometime in 2009. This deal is similar to the Fiat Sedici-Suzuki SX4. cheers--Enthusiast10 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Its not a canceled project cz the pick up has already been released in india, italy, spain, thailand etc. Its tata's best selling car in Europe. However, it might be that the latin american plan may been delayed or canceled. Ill try and find newer sources
As i read more, i realise that this tata-fiat collaboration is not as big as the sedici-sx4 collaboration. Tata released the pick-up in Europe itself and it has been received well thus im sure xenon wont be sold in europe under the fiat tag. However, tata doesnt have delearships in latin america except for venenzuela, thus fiat may sell the pick up in argentina and brazil for tata.--Enthusiast10 (talk) 15:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Not wishing to put up the stress level but I am disputing the cat Defunct truck manufacturers of the United Kingdom for several reasons. The item you are refering to is a lorry- truck is either slang or an Americanism, which is not appropriate to a UK cat tree. Secondly the title is ambiguous. Thirdly shouldn't the title be either Manufacturers of defunct vehicles in the United Kingdom or Defunct manufacturers of vehicles in the United Kingdom. Most adjective can be used to qualify a noun and as a stand alone description- some can only be used in the second way- I have only heard defunct used that way. Now on to Aveling and Porter, as a manufacture principally of road rollers. The name is defunct, the company has been merged beyond recognition, it never manufactured trucks- only an occasional Steam Waggon, I am reverting the tag.--ClemRutter (talk) 16:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
As a Brit, I wouldn't normally use the words "defunct" or "truck" - but those are the chosen existing formats for Misplaced Pages! So either we end up using words which mean more to some, or follow the existing Misplaced Pages category forms. Having been through such a series of debates before, I conclude the category forms which are in place set a precedence, are also the more globally used terms, and hence followed existing protocol. The category covers both defunct and former truck manufacturing companies. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 23:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Clearly the consensus of the other editors is in favor of keeping. The fact that you have problems or issues with that consensus is not a reason to delete the category. Vegaswikian (talk) 04:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
There may not be the car Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles Transporter, but Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles is used as a brand itself. It is mentioned on the wiki page and it has its own website, it is a division on its own in the Volkswagen Group. If you follow the news, you hear that Porsche/Volkswagen has 10 marques. If you count them, including Volkswagen CV, it is indeed 10. So it should be in the list. Schalkcity (talk) 19:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
You are right about Fiat Professional. It is a 'new' brand of Fiat, since 2007. So that one should also be included in the list. And I bet there are not many brands like these two, just mention more. By the way, Fiat Professional even has its own logo, so it is for sure a brand. Check this link: http://www.fiatgroup.com/it-it/group/default/Documents/ENG_brochure10-04-09.pdf all brands of the Fiat Group (Fiat S.p.A.): Lancia, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Fiat Professional, Abarth, Maserati, Ferrari, Case Construction, Case IH Agriculture, New Holland Agriculture, New Holland Construction, Steyr, Cobelco, Iveco, Iveco Magirus, Iveco Astra, Iveco Irisbus, and four other non-vehicle producing brands. Schalkcity (talk) 19:41, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, all these brands of Fiat are currently produced and sold by Fiat under their brand names. The same is true for Porsche / Volkswagen. Schalkcity (talk) 19:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Correctly, there are brands and models. The brand name is Ferrari, the model name is Testarossa. In these cases: the brand names are Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles and Fiat Professional, the models are Transporter (T5) and Ducato, for example. And the Ferrari brand is part of the Fiat Group and the VWCV is part of the Volkswagen Group, which is part of the Porsche Holding Company. Schalkcity (talk) 20:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Tense- Vega article
Hello-
I changed entire article to past tense. At first I left the intro in present. Which way should the article be?Vegavairbob (talk) 02:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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Straight-four engine article name should be changed to Inline-four engine, and in text sometimes referred to as Straight-4.(article is the reverse and text says sometimes referred to as inline-4). An inline-4 engine is rarely if ever referred to as a straight-4 engine. "Straight" designation is used to describe an inline-6 (straight-6) and straight-8 (50's). The designation carried over to the sixties for the six cylinder engines but not to the 70's for the four cylinder engines. I haven't seen Straight-four except on this site. It is not the proper designation for an inline four engine, and was probably only chosen because of the article writer's individual preference and/or the same writer as other "Straight engine" articles. How is the title edited.
Vegavairbob (talk) 22:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help and support with this. oppose 6-5. I need two.. anyone else that can help? Oh. when and can I end it?Vegavairbob (talk) 19:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
New user exhibiting "troll" behavior
The information I've contributed from wikis from other languages is now under dispute because it wasn't contributed by people who speak english. The user is called Biker Biker. (Regushee (talk) 16:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC))
Hello- How are you. This guy Scheinwerfermann is a nut. In a discussion to change an article title I opened Straight-four engine he didn't like my comments on the talk page...he opened up a full page lecture right on the article talk page!!!!check it out (by the way I didn't know you couldn't message other editors to vote and i apologised on the talk page and in the discussion....then he proceeded to edit the Vega article from head to toe last night and I didn't revert anything that helps article....then he opens up a discussion incidents for adminstrators review. He is really out of control. Something has to be done about this guy. Could anyone contribute to this administators discussion? If so can you mention that we have been working on the Vega article and I din't revert edits from others including you. Vegavairbob (talk) 03:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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