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An image

Sorry to annoy you once more, but could you check out this image? Part of the FUR says "It is of much lower resolution than the original" which is confusing considering the size. Also, the source seems to be a book published in Bulgaria in 1941, which wouldn't be a reliable source, would it? Thanks in advance, BalkanFever

Macedonians (Greeks)

I nominated the article for deletion: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Macedonians (Greeks). Cheers!--

Aaegean Macedonians vs Greek Macedonians/Bulgarian Macedonians

Hi Moreschi,

I want an explanation as to why Aegean Macedonians are forced into the article Slavic-speakers of Greek Macedonia, while Greek Macedonians and Bulgarian Macedonians get to have their own article instead of being within the article Macedonia (Greece) and Blagoevgrad Province, respectfully?

Mactruth

centralized discussion

Anyhow, thanks for the offer Palpatin :) I am really am very unhappy about the treatment I am getting but I got used to it I really don't know what to do now. Even in talk pages I am asked to shut my mouth. Is this supposed to be a neutral discussion? Just to answer to different threads it takes me hours (check the time signatures and consider the timezones too). I have to be able to present my arguments somehow. Please try to capture the essence of them. I can't express them in any fewer words Could you please explain why you had to censor that much of my edits in the arguments? Especially why did you remove the reliable source (dictionary of contemporary English) that I used to support my argument?

Disambiguating Macedonia.

I know FPatSunrise, you´re right. I´ve noteced your disambiguations and I fully understand them, I´ve just completely forgot it while writting fast. Sorry! I sware I´ll keep it in mind. Thanx and Regards! FkpCascais (talk) 09:24, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Epirus(region)

]. Can you please join the discussion here? --Sarandioti (talk) 10:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Names order

how exactly is that "logical"?. So the name of a modern minority must go in the end, but a mediaval name used by nobody goes before that??.

Since the Albanian form is evidently derived from the "medieval Greek" form, I find it indeed a lot more logical to state the latter first. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Please follow the guidelines. According to them modern names go first. And last time I checked *your logic* was not part of the guidelines. So please rv the article to the previous state.

Epirotes

Could you join the disccussion here ? Epirotes is a term to reers that ALL Epirotes regadless of ethnicity and nationality. Athenean tries to present it like only greek epirotes are epirotes trying to remove the albanian and aromanian heritage of the area. --Sarandioti (talk) 10:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I am finally starting to reach an agreement with Factuarious, but I am sure it is going to be hijacked by Athenean --Sarandioti (talk) 10:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I've commented over at the talk page, though it's probably not the answer either of you expected to hear. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, your proposal does not sound bad to me. --Sarandioti (talk) 10:53, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Deeply obliged for your unsolicited support. I will let you know if I quote it (as I may have to). Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

stable version

was the last stable version where andreas added the merge tag. Could you pelase revert to that? --Sarandioti (talk) 17:14, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Girne/Kyrenia

Can you please do something about this? Both pages exist and it keeps going back and forth. _{El Greco} 21:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Golem disambig

On the Talk:Golem_(disambiguation)#So_many_changes, I am interested in your comments. So, please. Thanks for the discussion there. --Franta Oashi (talk) 04:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Independent State of Macedonia

Hey Fut, can you please elaborate on the plagiarized parts of the Independent State of Macedonia? I might be looking to rewrite it because I found the topic pretty curious. I don't really have enough time to review all the sources for any similarities, so I thought I might ask, seeing as you have done this already. Thanks :) Todor→Bozhinov 14:38, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I'm afraid I'm not too certain. Most of the material is certainly too good English to be written by Jingiby, but then the problem is that Jingiby always reuses big chunks from other Misplaced Pages articles, so it's extremely difficult to find their ultimate sources and paths of transmission. For instance, the whole "When the Bulgarian army entered Yugoslav Macedonia..." passage exists in almost identical form in Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization#Second World War period. A later passage featuring "But the Bulgarians soon fell into the old Balkan trap of centralization" is in Macedonian nationalism. "The policy of minimal Communist resistance..." is both in Demographic history of Macedonia and National Liberation War of Macedonia. This is all cobbled together by chunks, and I suspect much of all this Macedonia coverage in these various articles ultimately traces back to Poulton and/or Danforth or other authors, just paraphrased shallowly so it isn't immediately google-obvious.

As for identified outside sources, the only clearly identified verbatim passage I can point to right now is the "Balkan trap of centralization" thing, which is from Poulton. (I think the corresponding passage in Macedonian nationalism uses even more of it.)

I don't mind you rewriting the stuff, but somebody also needs to clean up the original articles, and the whole structure of redundant coverage through "background" and "history" sections in multiple articles needs to be reduced. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Athenean

He is vandalising the Himare article by removing large parts of medieval age and when I reverted him he actually threatened me of of edit-warring!?!?!. Look here . In greeks template I removed karamanlidika, arvanitika, and slavika, as they are not greek dialects, and also removed the link of Epirotes which no longer leads to a greek community, but the general article of Epirus. He reverted me by saying "rv tendentious editor" . He has been warned TWICE by admins for his actions in the past, and no action has been taken yet. Others for much less have been blocked.--Sarandioti (talk) 23:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Sara-logic: Any mention of anything even vaguely Greek that is unsourced should be removed immediately. Any mention of anything even vaguely Albanian, however, is sacred, and its removal is vandalism. In this instance, the article is full of unsourced passages, yet Sarandioti in typical fashion only removes them "selectively". Then he has his tag-team revert buddy I Pakapshem to get around 3RR. Why oh why have these two not already been indef-blocked like they deserve to be? Why do Sarandioti and Pakapshem need to have wikiedia accounts? Have they made a single positive contribution to wikipedia? This is getting really old. --Athenean (talk) 02:37, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

FutPerf removed the Epirotes section. I guess I was (partially) right. So stop arguing. --Sarandioti (talk) 09:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Sara-logic: somebody agreed with you on one out of six points and disagreed about all the rest. So you guess you must have been right. Well, how about, you stop arguing for a change? I'm quickly losing patience with you. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to add partially. --Sarandioti (talk) 10:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Notification of arbcom discussion

Your actions have been discussed here as relevant to an ongoing arbitration case. You may wish to comment. I have linked a prior version of the page because the person who added this material reverted it and then incorporated the material by reference to the reversion, so as to make it impossible for you simply to search for your name. (Hope that's not too confusing.) Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 17:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)