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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on August 28

Leucopholiota

• ... that the appearance of the decorated Pholiota (pictured) at a 1994 North Carolina mushroom foray led its re-classification two years later?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

List of UFO religions

• ... that groups considered by scholars to be among the most prominent UFO religions include Aetherius Society, Heaven's Gate, Order of the Solar Temple, Raëlism, and Scientology?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 22:10, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Glensanda

• ... that Glensanda was an ancient deserted settlement in the Highlands of Scotland, but now it is a super-quarry which exports 6,000,000 tons of granite every year?

new article by Autodidactyl (talk). Self nom at 20:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that Glensanda was an ancestral home of the Maclean clan in the Highlands of Scotland, but it is now a super-quarry which exports 6,000,000 tons of granite every year? Autodidactyl (talk) 20:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
• Prefer the first hook.  Francium12  22:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

1892 vote of no confidence against the government of the Marquess of Salisbury

• ... that when the Marquess of Salisbury's government was defeated in Parliament on a vote of no confidence in August 1892, more Members of Parliament voted than ever before or since?

5x expanded by Sam Blacketer (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• I should point out that I created this article as a substub. See Is it a COI for me to pass it? Has been impressively expanded 5x and the hook is interesting.  Francium12  21:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• No conflict of interest unless you were voting. Writers and expanders are the best ones for nominating their stuff.--Wetman (talk) 21:57, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

American Sound Studio

• ... that Elvis recorded his last number one hit, "Suspicious Minds", at American Sound Studio?

5x expanded by Shoessss (Shoessss). Self nom at 17:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• …during a one week span in 1970, American Sound Studio had 25% of Billboard's top 100 spots?

• only 889 characters. For eligibility criteria see Misplaced Pages:Did you know. The article needs to be 1500 characters. I will treat this as a new article though because someone was rather silly and nominated it for AfD...  Francium12  18:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Argos Archaeological Museum

• ... that a miniature clay figurine of a woman or goddess in the Argos Archaeological Museum in Greece is one of the oldest sculptural representations of humans found in Europe to date?

5x expanded by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Self nom at 17:45, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• I removed the typo "is which" after "Greece". Art LaPella (talk) 21:14, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Dion Archaeological Museum

• ... that the hydraulis or water organ of the Dion Archaeological Museum is the first water organ found in Greece and believed to be the oldest excavated to date anywhere in the world?

5x expanded by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• Water organ linked--Wetman (talk) 22:30, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Anti-tank dog

• ... that in combat areas of the Eastern Front of World War II, German soldiers were ordered to shoot any dog because it might be an anti-tank dog?

• Comment: ALT1... that use of own tanks in training Soviet anti-tank dogs urged them to explode Soviet instead of German tanks?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 05:55, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

The first hook is only applicable to Eastern Front (not the whole war), and as Zaloga says, only "in sectors where they appeared" (FWIW). NVO (talk) 07:48, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps OT. Stephen Zaloga is a reliable author, but the referenced book is littered with too many typos that make it appear sloppy, unreliable. NVO (talk) 07:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I've looked through quite some sources, sifting through junk, and have no doubt now regarding the Soviet deployment facts. Many Russian sources are actually more trustworthy than Zaloga. Yes, only Eastern Front, but most parts of it. I changed the hook. Materialscientist (talk) 08:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Am I the only one who hates the "WWII" and "WWI" abbreviations in hooks? Dahn (talk) 13:09, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

No, you're not. First World War and Second World War are much better. Mjroots (talk) 15:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. Materialscientist (talk) 23:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Lord Have Mercy on the Working Man

• ... that Travis Tritt's song "Lord Have Mercy on the Working Man" features Brooks & Dunn, T. Graham Brown, George Jones, Little Texas, Dana McVicker, Tanya Tucker and Porter Wagoner?

• Comment: 180 characters by my count; I don't want to omit any of the names.

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 03:51, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

New Jersey Route 64

• ... that the alignment of New Jersey Route 64 is shorter than Route 31A, the highway it replaced?

5x expanded by Mitchazenia (talk). Self nom at 02:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

List of Pittsburgh Pirates Opening Day starting pitchers

• ... that United States senator Jim Bunning (pictured) was the Pittsburgh Pirates' Opening Day starting pitcher in 1966?

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• The hook as written can be read that Bunning pitched for the Pirates while he was a U.S. Senator. Can I suggest (ALT 1) "... that Jim Bunning (pictured), who was later elected to the U.S. Senate, was the Pittsburgh Pirates' Opening Day starting pitcher in 1966?" Alansohn (talk) 02:55, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Your article says "1968", not "1966". --74.13.125.201 (talk) 03:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that U.S. Senator Jim Bunning (pictured) was previously a professional baseball player, and was the Pittsburgh Pirates' Opening Day starting pitcher in 1968? --74.13.125.201 (talk) 03:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• The original hook is far more interesting to read than either ALT so how about just adding the word "future" to the original hook? "... that future United States senator Jim Bunning (pictured) was the Pittsburgh Pirates' Opening Day starting pitcher in 1966?" Otto4711 (talk) 11:26, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 27

Henry Dorling

• ... that Henry Dorling, step-father of cookery writer Mrs Beeton, was the first Clerk of the Course of Epsom Racecourse?

Created by PamD (talk). Self nom at 18:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Kavala Archaeological Museum

• ... that the Kavala Archaeological Museum has been described as being the most important archaeological museum in Eastern Macedonia?

5x expanded by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Self nom at 12:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Hand of God (art)

• ... that the Hand of God in art (pictured) often stands for the voice of God?

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 13:21, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

William Weston (Explorer)

• ... that William Weston was the first Englishman recorded as having visited North America?

Created by Malick78 (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

The pioneer (painting)

• ... that the National Gallery of Victoria only purchased Australian artist Frederick McCubbin's triptych The pioneer after he reworked the painting to add a view of the city of Melbourne in the background?

Created by Mattinbgn (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Alice Ayres

• ... that in 1885, over 10,000 mourners attended the funeral of Alice Ayres (pictured)?

• Comment: This is intentionally "Who is that and why haven't I heard of her?". There's no obvious way to summarise her in <200 characters without diluting the impact to ridiculous levels ("DYK... that Alice Ayres was unquestionably heroic but little is known about her life, and consequently political, social and artistic movements across the political spectrum have projected their own values onto her?").

Created by Iridescent (talk). Self nom at 22:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• No need to summarise. Just a little context would do. Like era, country, occupation (if relevant), for the general readers on the main page. --74.13.125.201 (talk) 03:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• "1885" gives the period; "in England" would just look silly, while "the funeral service which began in Southwark and proceeded on foot for approximately 12 miles (19 km) to Isleworth" would be awkward and anything else would be inaccurate; "occupation" is completely irrelevant to the subject. Have you even read the article? – iridescent 12:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• I fail too see the problem in calling her an "English nursemaid" or something, and I also have to wonder about how it would spoil the hook. Dahn (talk) 13:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• Personally, I think "English nursemaid" or similar is far too misleading; although she worked as a nursemaid to her sister, it implies an employment relationship. Since the whole significance of Ayres is that the media fabricated a past for her in which she was an employee of the Chandlers rather than a relative, we shouldn't be perpetuating that. This was 19th century Surrey; women didn't have occupations in the sense they do today. – iridescent 13:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• Look, as I am writing this, the very first line of the article says " was a household assistant and nursemaid to the family of her brother-in-law and sister, Henry and Mary Ann Chandler." We don't really perpetuate anything by mentioning that's what she worked as, whatever else she was. but if that's really a problem, since the entire issue is supposedly complicated, and since it's not that interesting that 10,000 people went to a funeral of someone whom the reader can't say right away should or shouldn't have received that sort of tribute (my own gut reaction was "so?"), why not make that into a hook? By "that" I mean the way in which someone rescuing her relatives was made to look like someone rescuing her employers. Dahn (talk) 13:28, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

J. Vivian, Jr. and Company Building

• ... that within 15 years of its construction, the J. Vivian, Jr. and Company Building (pictured) was enlarged twice: one to add a third story and once to increase its width?

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Self nom at 19:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Kirātārjunīya

• ... that Kirātārjunīya, a Sanskrit epic by Bharavi, is noted for its verbal complexity, including the verse "na nonanunno nunnono nānā nānānanā nanu / nunno'nunno nanunneno nānena nunnanunnanut"?

Created by Shreevatsa (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: It is not necessary to include the full verse; I only chose it because the long string of nnnns might be eye-catching and intriguing. Something like "na nonanunno nunnono… nunnanunnanut" might do as well, and it is also fine to simply drop all the diacritic marks (the article name itself could be "Kiratarjuniya"). Or the hook could mention the actual details: "a verse that is 'palindromic from every direction'?", "verses consisting of just one consonant?", "verses that are mirror images of each other?", etc. Shreevatsa (talk) 11:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• Comment Not that this is anything to go by, but some of the symbols don't show on my display (the ones after "nanu" and "nunnanunnanut"). The regular diacritics, however, are fine. Dahn (talk) 13:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• Oh I see. Those two were just end-of-line markers; I've replaced them with the English '/' — best not to have anything that wouldn't be visible to everyone. (The other diacritics used, 'ā' and 'ī', seem to be present in most common English fonts.) Thanks for pointing it out, Shreevatsa (talk) 15:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• No, thank you. Dahn (talk) 17:12, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Yokomo

• ... that all but one of Masami Hirosaka's IFMAR titles was won driving cars by Yokomo and Associated Electrics, for whom it distributes in its home market?

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Aoyagi Metals Company

• ... that within a year of entering the radio-controlled car market in 1979, ayk Racing won its first of its three consecutive national championship in Japan?

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Jørn Holme

• ... that in 2004, Jørn Holme became the first active politician to be appointed as director of the Norwegian Police Security Service?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC) accurate hook and long enough  Francium12  16:20, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Henry Gerber, Society for Human Rights

... that Henry Gerber founded the first gay rights organization in the U<style type="text/css"> /* Fix the sidebar's position while you scroll */ div { /* Using the attribute selector hides this from IE */ position: fixed; height: 100%; /* If you shrink the browser too small, the */ overflow: auto; /* side column will become scrollable, so stuff */ z-index: 2; /* is always accessible, albeit ugly */ } #p-logo { /* Make logo inline with other divs */ position:static; } #column-one { /* Sidebar column start at the top screen edge */ padding-top: 0; } #p-lang .pBody ul{ /* Sets the language box to a fixed height and */ height: 6em; /* scrollable if too long to fit on screen */ overflow: auto; } /* Fix the background image, too, so it looks nice as you scroll */ body { background-attachment: fixed; } /* Fix the footer so it looks nice and doesn't overlap the sidebar */ #footer { margin-left: 13.6em; border-left: solid 1px rgb(250, 189, 35); -moz-border-radius-topleft: 1em; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 1em; } /* Keep personal links at the top right */ #p-personal { width:100%; white-space:nowrap; padding:0 0 0 0; margin:0; position:absolute; left:0px; top:0px; z-index: 0; border: none; background: none; overflow: visible; line-height: 1.2em; } #p-personal h5 { display:none; } #p-personal .portlet, #p-personal .pBody { padding:0; margin:0; border: none; z-index:0; overflow: visible; background: none; } /* this is the ul contained in the portlet */ #p-personal ul { border: none; line-height: 1.4em; color: #2f6fab; padding: 0em 2em 0 3em; margin: 0; text-align: right; text-transform: lowercase; list-style: none; z-index:0; background: none; } #p-personal li { z-index:0; border:none; padding:0; display: inline; color: #2f6fab; margin-left: 1em; line-height: 1.2em; background: none; } #p-personal li a { text-decoration: none; color: #005896; padding-bottom: 0.2em; background: none; } #p-personal li a:hover { background-color: White; padding-bottom: 0.2em; text-decoration: none; } </style>nited States in 1924, only to see it destroyed in less than a year following accusations that it was a "strange sex cult"? self-nom. Gerber is just waiting for a non-controversial deletion of a redirect to be moved to article space. Society for Human Rights is, I think, a 5x expansion but I can't seem to figure out how to make DYKCheck work. Otto4711 (talk) 14:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• OK, Gerber's been moved to article space. Otto4711 (talk) 15:35, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• Society for Human Rights is a 6271/2098=3x expansion. DYKcheck instructions are at WP:Did you know/DYKcheck or at User:Shubinator/DYKcheck. Art LaPella (talk) 18:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• OK, I guess I'm just a complete idiot because AFAIK I followed the instructions for DYKcheck and I don't have any check tool. But, my very unofficial counter puts the character count from the pre-expansion version at just over 2,000 and the expanded version is over 9,000 (with expansion continuing). Which is still a little short I guess but it's not as short as DYKcheck is apparently showing. Either way the Gerber article qualifies as a new article. Otto4711 (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• Henry Gerber is new enough because of F3.
• Your monobook.js says 'User:Otto4711/DYKcheck.js' instead of 'User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js'.
• Your monobook.js appears to have prosesize installed correctly, so you could use prosesize to measure article length (DYKcheck is recommended instead, because it also checks for other problems.)
• There are now 8409 bytes of prose as we define it. 8409/2098=4x.
• The counter you used counts length, but it doesn't automate the removal of all the items we don't count. That's why we emphasize the word "prose", not total text. As WP:Did you know/DYKcheck#Counting prose characters without DYKcheck explains, "You'll probably make a mistake trying to count this way ..." At least you didn't count the entire article; that would be 15,788 characters. Art LaPella (talk) 07:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• I counted the main text including the lede and sections "Henry Gerber", "Founding the Society", "Demise", "Legacy" and "Footnotes", manually removing the TOC, section headers, "main article" line and reference indicators (and never counting the notes, references, external links or categories) and I come up with 11,174 both on my unofficial counter and the linked counter. Both count the pre-expansion at 2,048. I don't understand where the discrepancies are coming from that could account for a nearly 2,500 character discrepancy. No matter what I have on my monobook page I get no tool indicators Otto4711 (talk) 10:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• OK, I think I see the issue. When I click "DYK check" on the pre-expansion article I get 2098 but it appears to be counting three instances of "citation needed" and a blank line as prose. On the expanded article I'm getting 8409 but the tool is not counting the "Footnotes" section. That section should be included because that's readable text, not references. Including that section adds about another 1,100 characters to the count. Subtracting out incorrectly counted text from the starting point and adding the uncounted characters to the expansion takes the article over the 5x threshold.
• Honestly I don't care about this as much as it may seem I do from the effort I'm putting in here. If I get credit for the SHR article or not it's all good. I just thought it would be cool to score a double. Otto4711 (talk) 10:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Footnotes aren't formally mentioned on the list of things we don't consider "prose". However, WP:Did you know/DYKcheck does say "DYKcheck (or prosesizebytes, or prosesize, which give the same count) is the preferred method for counting characters in an article's prose, and usually carries the most weight at DYK, because it counts only the prose as defined by Did You Know rules, thus avoiding mistakes and providing an impartial settlement of disputed counting." I don't approve nominations, but it's been months since anyone has successfully argued that DYKcheck is wrong, because of footnotes or any other reason. Art LaPella (talk) 21:14, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
    • Apparently the creator of DYKcheck did not take into consideration that "footnotes", which are asides of readable prose that are broken out from the main text because, while interesting, are not necessarily directly on point, are not "notes" which serve as references. Nor did s/he contemplate that prose generated by templates like {{fact}}, which generates "" within the text, does not fall under the heading of "readable". The article is now at 10,272. The unexpanded version is 2,098 but DYKcheck is clearly counting three instances of "" as readable prose. Three such instances total 51 characters. These characters should not be considered in the pre-expansion article's count. Adjusting the count to reflect this, the pre-expansion article is 2047. 10272/2947 = 5.018 expansion. Blindly adhering to a character count because DYKcheck says so, despite reasonable arguments to the contrary, seems pedantic. Otto4711 (talk) 22:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
      • The DYKcheck counts are usually pretty accurate. The current count is 10,280 characters and the count for the version before you started editing was 2,098, which puts the expansion at almost 4.9x, putting you a mere 210 characters below 5x. You should have no problem meeting that with some additional details in the article. Alansohn (talk) 23:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
        • Do you believe that three instances of "" should be counted toward the readable prose count in the pre-expansion article, because DYKcheck doesn't exclude them? Otto4711 (talk) 23:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Lazăr Şăineanu

• ... that scandals sparked by Romanian antisemitic groups between 1899 and 1901 prevented Jewish linguist Lazăr Şăineanu from receiving his naturalization rights?

Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 12:55, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that Romanian writer Alexandru Odobescu viewed antisemites preventing linguist Lazăr Şăineanu from obtaining naturalization as "cannibals" devouring "a civilized man"?
• ALT 2: ... that, after repeatedly failing to obtain naturalization in Romania for being Jewish, linguist Lazăr Şăineanu moved to France and became a leading authority on Middle French argot? Dahn (talk) 13:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Since the article talks abouit naturalization, should not it be explicitly mentioned what his original citizenship was (or was he stateless)? Vmenkov (talk) 06:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Technically, he was a non-emancipated Jew. He was a subject of the Romanian Kingdom (which is why he was conscripted supposed to be conscripted into the Army), but he was not a citizen with full rights. Dahn (talk) 08:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Red Mahogany

• ... that koalas eat the leaves of the eucalyptus tree known as the Red Mahogany?

Created by Poyt448 (talk). Self nom at 07:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Australian Military Court

• ... that the Australian Military Court was declared constitutionally invalid after a sailor accused of "teabagging" a superior officer challenged it in the High Court of Australia?

Created by Canley (talk). Self nom at 06:10, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• Comment Interesting hook! I think "challenged it" sounds a little vague, a reader may not be able to pick up what "it" is that is being challenged. I am not sure it is clear in the hook, that it was the constitutional validity that was being challenged. Perhaps a reword along the lines of ALT1... that in a case involving a sailor accused of "teabagging" a superior officer, the High Court of Australia ruled that the Australian Military Court was constitutionally invalid?

• Yes, that's a lot better, thanks. -- Canley (talk) 04:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Taxco

• ... that in Taxco during Holy Week some perform penance by carrying large crosses or bundles in procession in the town?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• Expansion, refs, dates Ok, but the hook is too plain for this large article. Materialscientist (talk) 03:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

... that in Taxco during Holy Week some perform penance by walking in procession with 40-50 kilo bundles of thorned blackberry canes on their backs for hours? (Id mention the other two brotherhood who carry 50kilo crosses and whip themselves periodically and those who walk for hours stooped over but that would make this too long.)AlejandroLinaresGarcia (talk) 14:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Jenisch house

• ... that the Jenisch house—a 19th century country house—is located in the oldest landscaped park in Hamburg, Germany?

Created by Sebastian scha. (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Sverre Dick Henriksen

• ... that Norwegian professor of bacteriology Sverre Dick Henriksen was an honorary member of the Polish Chamber of Physicians and Dentists, despite having never worked in Poland?

• Comment: Quite unusual as he didn't work in Poland, and in general few people become honorary members of organizations.

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 26

Nasutitermes corniger

• ... that the White-throated Round-eared Bat creates roosts inside the nests of the termite, Nasutitermes corniger?

Created by Smartse (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Note Any help reducing the number of red links in the article would be greatly appreciated. Smartse (talk) 02:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Intimidator (roller coaster)

• ... that the Intimidator roller coaster on the South Carolina side of the Carowinds amusement park takes its name from the nickname of former NASCAR legend Dale Earnhardt?

Created by FSUNolez06 (talk). Nominated by Patriarca12 (talk) at 00:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Caney Lakes Recreation Area

• ... that Caney Lakes Recreation Area and nearby Lake Bistineau in northwestern Louisiana have been plagued with the giant salvinia fern, which impairs boating?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 18:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• I've changed the link from salvinia to giant salvinia.Smartse (talk) 16:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Ford ACT

• ... that Ford developed a people mover system known as ACT, but the only one to see passenger service was built between the Hyatt Regency hotel and Fairlane Town Center shopping mall on Ford-developed lands in Dearborn, MI?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 01:58, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• The hook is overloaded with unnecessary geographic details and is too long (229 characters, should be <200). The article is a bit short on references. Could you add some? Materialscientist (talk) 03:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, lets try this...

"... that Ford developed a people mover system known as ACT, but the only one to see service was built between a hotel and shopping mall on Ford-developed lands in Dearborn, MI?

As to the references, 5 majors and 20 inlines seems like more than enough for a 13 paragraph article. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Baila Mi Rumba

• ... that Venezuelan performer José Luis Rodríguez "El Puma" received a Grammy Award nomination for his

number-one song "Baila Mi Rumba"? Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 01:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 01:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

2009 Upton Park riots

• ... that supporters invaded the pitch on three occasions during a football match between West Ham United and Millwall in 2009?

Created by 03md (talk), PeeJay2K3 (talk). Nominated by 03md (talk) at 00:14, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that spectators invaded the pitch on three occasions during a football match at Upton Park between West Ham United and Millwall in 2009? --74.13.125.201 (talk) 01:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Curly Top (film)

• ... that Shirley Temple film vehicles Curly Top and The Littlest Rebel were both named to Variety's list of top box office draws for 1935?

5x expanded by Kathyrncelestewright (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• I've removed the image File:Curly Top 2.jpg. Only free images are permitted on the Main Page. --Bruce1ee 07:31, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Ramstad

• ... that the farmland at Ramstad, Norway, was affected by the nineteenth-century construction of both the Drammen Line and the European route E18?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Eddie Sweat

• ... that African-American groom Eddie Sweat is recognized for his role in the success of Triple Crown champion Secretariat and is depicted with the horse in a life-sized statue at the Kentucky Horse Park?

Created by Handicapper (talk). Self nom at 18:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• 225 character hook (should be <200), no in-line refs. Materialscientist (talk) 22:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Reflections on copper lines

• ... that reflections on copper lines cause high frequency ringing on the power cables in your home which continues long after the original disturbance?

Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self nom at 16:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• I'm pretty sure the hook shouldn't contain "your." bibliomaniac15 00:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• Bibliomaniac15 means WP:YOU. Art LaPella (talk) 05:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that reflections on copper lines cause high frequency ringing on domestic power cables which continues long after the original disturbance?

• Hook needs rewriting. A non-specialist might think of it as "Sun reflections on bare copper wires cause power lines in my home to vibrate at high frequency producing annoying sound" :-) Some jargon could be unavoidable, but confusion could be reduced here. Materialscientist (talk) 03:24, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• Come off it, "ringing" is carefully wikilinked to an article which makes clear it does not have the meaning you suggest. "Reflection" is the universally used term for these phenomena and the first line of the article (a signal travelling along an electrical transmission line will be partly, or wholly, reflected back in the opposite direction...) and the second para (this article is about signal reflections on electrically conducting lines...) make clear the meaning intended. To use a different term (do you have a suggestion?) will require the main article name to be piped, to explain the term will require more than the 150 characters allowed by DYK. SpinningSpark 07:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• 150? Perhaps you are unaware of H2. Art LaPella (talk) 18:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• Just slightly mixed up for a moment. If I was able to count properly I would have become an accountant instead of an engineer-:) SpinningSpark 23:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree; besides, I recommend taking copper out of equation - it is quite rare in power lines, usually it's aluminum over steel core isn't it? Hell, a whole new generation identifies transmission lines with optic fiber :) NVO (talk) 08:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, what's the matter with you people, copper is a beautiful metal. Ok, I've changed the article title. SpinningSpark 11:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that reflections of signals on conducting lines cause high frequency electrical ringing on domestic power cables which continues long after the original disturbance?

Helga Karlsen

• ... that Helga Karlsen (pictured), who was the first female Member of Parliament from the Norwegian Labour Party, died only four days before she could be elected for a third term?

Created by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• "third period"? Do you mean a "third term"? --74.13.125.201 (talk) 03:55, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• Ok. Lampman (talk) 04:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Torf-Einarr

• ... that Old Norse poems attributed to Torf-Einarr describe his defeat of Hálfdan Longlegs?

5x expanded by DrKiernan (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• Does Hálfdan Longlegs deserve to be turned blue? If so, let's make this a double-hook! --74.13.125.201 (talk) 01:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Magnolia × soulangeana

• ... that Magnolia × soulangeana is the most commonly used magnolia in horticulture in the British Isles?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• 5x expansion, date checked, hook length ok, hook cited.--BelovedFreak 23:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 25

Ola Lindholm

• ... that Ola Lindholm hosted the 2004 version of Melodifestivalen, an annual music competition and the most watched television program in Sweden?

Created by Theleftorium (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Sir Rory Mor's Horn

• ... that according to clan custom, each successive chief of Clan MacLeod is to quaff a full measure of Sir Rory Mor's Horn to prove his "manhood"?

Created by Hotspur23 (talk), Celtus (talk). Self nom at 08:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Lake Bistineau

• ... that Lake Bistineau (pictured) in northwestern Louisiana was originally formed in 1800 by flooding stemming from a large log jam on the nearby Red River?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• Suggest 2nd "created" --> "caused" --74.13.125.201 (talk) 01:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Jewish cemetery in Chernivtsi

• ... that the Jewish cemetery in Chernivtsi, Ukraine is one of the biggest historic Jewish cemeteries preserved in Central and Eastern Europe?

Created by Julia myasyshcheva (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 00:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• Date and length are Ok, but there is a major problems with references: we require at least one per paragraph; besides, ref. 1 is incomplete and hardly accessible, ref. 2 does not seem a "reliable source". Materialscientist (talk) 06:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment I will speak to the article creator, and see if they can improve the refs.  Chzz  ►  07:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

...that the links for Austrian, Turkish and Romanian lead nowhere? - Biruitorul 01:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Dabs fixed  Chzz  ►  04:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

File:Jewish cemetery Chernivtsi.JPG

Please consider adding the picture shown here to this DYK nomination, thanks (the pic was not available when I first nominated it)  Chzz  ►  19:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Sicklefin lemon shark

• ... that the closure of the Tethys Sea 10–14 million years ago led to the sicklefin lemon shark (pictured) and the lemon shark becoming separate species?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 23:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• this should perhaps be "the division of the Tethys Sea" (or even Tethys Ocean)? Long Shrift (talk) 11:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• Why? That makes less sense. -- Yzx (talk) 13:14, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• Because it didn't "close", did it? I think it was divided in two by what is now Africa. Long Shrift (talk) 15:09, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• As I understand it, most of what was left of the Tethys Sea (which had already been shrinking for quite some time then) literally closed up when Arabia, India, and parts of Italy collided with the rest of Eurasia. No part of it survived in the Indian Ocean. In any case "closure" is the wording used by the source. -- Yzx (talk) 18:41, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Grini

• ... that the Oslo Metro station serving the district Grini in Bærum was closed in 1995 because many passengers chose to walk to another station from whence the fare was cheaper?

Large expansion by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• "From whence" is a tautology: I think "from which" would be better than "whence".--Wetman (talk) 00:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• I looked it up at www.dictionary.com a while ago, and it says: "Although sometimes criticized as redundant on the grounds that “from” is implied by the word whence, the idiom from whence is old in the language, well established, and standard". I'm not a native speaker though, so anyone could and should brush up my language. Geschichte (talk) 21:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• I think "from whence" is correct, but awkward. How about "wherefrom" or "where from". Lampman (talk) 02:39, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• British English makes sense for a Norwegian hook, but in the U.S., "whence" soundeth auld, and "wherefrom" or "where from" sound unfamiliar. "From where"? Art LaPella (talk) 05:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

De Eendracht, Anjum

• ... that De Eendracht (pictured), a smock mill in Anjum, Netherlands, is used as a tourist information office as well as being a working mill?

Created/expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 20:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• Note to confirm ref check address on ref against that of mill in infobox. Mjroots (talk) 21:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Dunno if this is taken into account for inclusion, but we had another Dutch smock mill article as a pictured DYK only yesterday. Wouldn't it be better to space these out a bit? Peter 19:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
    • I am spacing them out. I've only got one running at a time, and I'm not nominating every article I create. Mjroots (talk) 05:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Iron Duke class battleship

• ... that Iron Duke, the lead ship of the Error: {{sclass}} invalid format code: 6. Should be 0–5, or blank (help)s was the flagship of the British Grand Fleet at the Battle of Jutland in May 1916?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• 5x expanded  Francium12  14:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Beverley Randolph Mason

• ... that George Mason descendant and American Civil War veteran Beverley Randolph Mason founded the prestigious Gunston Hall school for girls and young ladies in Washington, D.C.?

Created/5x expanded by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that American Civil War veteran Beverley Randolph Mason founded a school for girls and young ladies in Washington, D.C. named for the plantation of his ancestor, Founding Father of the United States George Mason?

• ALT2:... that Confederate veteran Beverley Randolph Mason founded a school for girls and young ladies in Washington, D.C. named for the plantation of his ancestor, Founding Father of the United States George Mason?
• This article has not been expanded 5x in the past five days and is not a new article. The rules for inclusion can be found here . I don't make the rules, I just enforce them!  Francium12  09:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• Concur with Francium12. 2737 characters in June; 3264 characters today. Not expanded 5x since June edit. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 17:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Fiddler's Reach Fog Signal

• ... that the Fiddler's Reach Fog Signal (pictured) on Maine's Kennebec River operated as a bell run by a clockwork counterweight mechanism?
• ALT 1 ... that the Fiddler's Reach Fog Signal (pictured) on Maine's Kennebec River originally had a bell run by a clockwork counterweight mechanism that had to be wound by hand every four hours? Lvklock (talk) 15:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Created by Doncram (talk), Jameslwoodward (talk). Self nom at 14:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm fine with the alternate suggestion, it's better, thanks! doncram (talk) 01:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I suggest correcting the link to bell to point to whichever specific bell is meant. Perhaps bell (instrument)? orangefreak 16:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Done. doncram (talk) 23:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Dalarö wreck, Bartmann jug

Bartmann jugs in situ on the Dalarö wreck

• ... that the cargo of the Dalarö wreck, sunk in the Baltic Sea, included coal and several Bartmann jugs?

Created by Peter Isotalo (talk). Self nom at 13:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• Both articles were moved to mainspace recently. Assuming good faith on the swedish references provided for the hook. Smartse (talk) 20:38, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually the references need a little work as there isn't one per paragraph at the moment.

Fixed.

Peter 06:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Rizal Monument

• ... that a tall stainless steel pylon was added to the Rizal Monument in Manila in 1961, but removed a year later?

Created by TheCoffee (talk). Self nom at 12:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• Duplication of info from the article Rizal Park and therefore doesn't qualify as new content. This article should be either merged or redirected to the Rizal Park article. Gatoclass (talk) 12:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Yummy Dough

• ... that two German girls thought about creating edible dough?

• ALT1:... that two German girls thought about creating edible dough after tasting ordinary dough and finding it horrible?

• ALT2:... that Yummy Dough is the first commercially distributed dough that has been designed to be eaten as well as played with?
• Comment: Previously incorrectly deleted at AFD (one of too many examples where WP:BEFORE was ignored). Recreated and expanded with multiple reliable sources. SoWhy 10:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Created by Jiashwu (talk), SoWhy (talk). Self nom at 10:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• First two suggested hooks make no sense as dough is normally edible. Third one is okay, and in regards to the former AFD, the article appears to have sufficient sourcing to justify its existence now. However, the article currently reads a little like an advertisement, and I'm a bit reluctant to approve. Anyone else have an opinion? Gatoclass (talk) 13:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) Yeah, you know, I'll use that "not a native speaker" excuse here. I wanted to point out the fact that dough is usually not meant to be eaten nor tastes good when someone does. As for the advertising part, I can assure you I am not an evil spammer but with that "not a native speaker" thing again it's of course possible that parts of it sound more spammy than intended. It's a wiki, you are all welcome to fix it ;-) Regards SoWhy 13:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• I concur. The article reads like a press release issued by the company that created the product. Just because references exist and can be cited doesn't necessarily make a subject notable enough to warrant an article. MovieMadness (talk) 13:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• I think that, for "dough", read modelling clay. Play-Doh pretty much made the use of the word dough a standard for substances that children play with (but not eat!). Referring to an edible modelling clay could make for a more interesting hook, too. Maedin\ 13:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Wellingsbüttel Manor

• ... that Hamburg's Wellingsbüttel Manor (pictured) was the former home of Duke Friedrich Karl of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck, and used as a student's resident hall from 1964 till 1996?

Created by Fifat (talk). Nominated by Sebastian scha. (talk) at 20:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 24

Surface integrity

• ... that the term surface integrity was first coined by Michael Field and John F. Kahles in 1964 and defined as the nature of the surface condition of a workpiece after being affected by manufacturing processes?

Created by Wizard191 (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Louis Gaston Mayila

• ... that in 1974, Louis Gaston Mayila became Deputy Personal Adviser to the then President of Gabon, Omar Bongo?

Created by Himalayan Explorer (talk). and Everyking (talk).Self nom at 11:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Med Hondo

• ... that Med Hondo is an award-winning Mauritanian film director who dubbed the voice of Donkey in the French language version of Shrek?

Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Self nom at 13:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• Article length > 1500 chars. Creation date < 5 days ago. Hook length < 200 chars. Great to have an African francophone as a DYK subject. There is an inline citation of the hook fact, and the cited source is a nice secondary source, rather than some IMdB-esque article. So it more than likely passes DYK review. But I suppose my only little question would be whether inline citation of a fact in a filmography is enough. The article proper doesn't mention Shrek at all. You'd have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page to find the DYK fact. I wonder if other, more experienced DYK reviewers would comment on this?

(Also, and this doesn't derail the nomination at all because there are in fact many other sources, one of the more-used sources is the subject's own webpage, which would seem to be an invalid source under WP:SELFPUB.) CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 17:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

That's a fair point. It's kind of a work in progress and I'd overlooked that, but I agree with you, so I've added a sentence specifically mentioning Shrek. As far as I can tell from WP:SELFPUB, using his own website is ok — I don't think I've gone against any of the five points listed there. Thanks for your comments. --BelovedFreak 20:14, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Dorcheat Bayou

• ... that the 122-mile-long Dorcheat Bayou in Arkansas and Louisiana was once partially navigable to the Red River but is now known for fishing, canoeing, and scenic beauty?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Giuseppe Ricciotti

• ... that Giuseppe Ricciotti's famous book "Life of Jesus Christ" was edited in 1941 and reedited and reprinted several times?

Created by A ntv (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

ALT1... that in 1934 Giuseppe Ricciotti published the translations in Italian of sermons of Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber in favour of the Hebrews? A ntv (talk) 06:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Lac-des-Écorces, Quebec

• ... that one of the largest fish culture stations in Quebec, Canada, is in Lac-des-Écorces?

Created by P199 (talk). Self nom at 16:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Church of Heavenly Peace, Fuzhou

• ... Tien Ang Tong is the first Methodist church built in China that provided services in the English language?

Created by GnuDoyng (talk). Self nom at 05:07, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Z. Marcas

• ... that French author Honoré de Balzac found inspiration for his 1840 novelette Z. Marcas from a sign outside a tailor's shop in Paris?

Created by Scartol (talk). Self nom at 00:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Note: This can be verified with an online source. Scartol • Tok 00:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• Basics are good. Aricle > 1500 chars, Hook <200 chars, creation date fine. But hook not supported by inline citation. I'm not sure of the right way to inline source a bit from Wikisource (which is what the above online source is), but the article makes no attempt to source the hook at all. WP:CITE doesn't mention WIkisource, and the guidelines at WP:Wikisource seem to contradict WP:CITE, in that WP:Wikisource doesn't provide for specific citation of the work. Nevertheless, WP:CITE does say, "Add your source even if you are unsure how to format it." CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 18:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• I'm really confused. this note in the "Writing and publication" section of the article refers to the book by Sandars, as well as two other texts with the same information. The Sandars book was first published in 1905, and the OCLC information is available in the References part of the article. What am I missing? Scartol • Tok 21:38, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• You're not missing anything terribly difficult to solve. Per WP:DYK#Selection criteria:

The hook fact must be cited in the article with an inline citation, since inline citations are used to support specific statements in an article. The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable.

The exact wording of your hook is mentioned in the article in the lead, where it receives no inline citation. The Sanders citation to which you refer establishes where the character of Marcas got his name, but it doesn't precisely state your hook, which insists that the tailor's sign inspired the writing of the novelette. Again, the language of the hook must be immediately followed by an inline citation. Thus, you could use something like:

ALT1: ... that the novelette Z. Marcas has been described "as a vehicle for a characteristic Balzacian whimsy"?

although some editors seem to prefer that quotations not be in hooks. Thus, the following might be more appropriate:

ALT2: ... that the novelette Z. Marcas was said to have accurately predicted the French Revolution of 1848?

Since your article is pretty well-sourced, there may be additional facts which could be used without altering the article at all. Still, if we proceed with one of the alternates, you'll still want to somehow cite your Wikisource, as it's a great source that adds extra verifiability to the claim in the lead. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 01:31, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, how about this?

ALT3: ... that French author Honoré de Balzac chose the title character's name for his 1840 novelette Z. Marcas from a sign outside a tailor's shop in Paris?

I revised the wording in the lead so that it matches this alt hook. Scartol • Tok 11:30, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Mythographus Homericus

• ... that Mythographus Homericus, the "Homeric Mythographer", is the unknown writer of a collection of tales from Greek mythology that link to the relevant Homeric line with headwords or lemmata?

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

• A little short of eligible prose count. (Currently 1135 B) Could you please expand a bit more? Regards--Chanaka L (talk) 13:16, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Stefano Bardini

• ... that many well-known works of Renaissance art passed through the hands of connoisseur art dealer Stefano Bardini of Florence?

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

• "many well-known works of Renaissance art"? This had better be a really well-known piece that an average reader of the main page would know. Otherwise this hook doesn't work. Any examples with a picture to show on the main page? --74.14.19.4 (talk) 06:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• I've dropped some more names, but Donatello and Veronese are unlikely to be familiar at the "average" level.--Wetman (talk) 03:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Wrinkle-faced Bat

• ... that the Wrinkle-faced Bat is able to bite 20% harder than other bats of a similar size allowing it to eat a wider range of fruits?

5x expanded by Smartse (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Primary line constants

• ... that when the primary line constants of a transmission line contain no resistance the line input impedance is pure resistance?

Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self nom at 21:08, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

• This holds only for infinitely long line, which is hard to imagine having zero resistance - no, off course in theory its true. Materialscientist (talk) 09:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• Not so, it holds for any length of correctly terminated line. SpinningSpark 17:14, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Scutching, Heckling (flax)

• ... that both scutching and heckling are steps in the process of turning flax into linen?

Created by Loggie (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 23

Omar Doom

• ... that film director Quentin Tarantino encouraged Omar Doom to become an actor, and cast Doom in Inglourious Basterds two weeks before filming began?

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 13:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Triangle (The Beau Brummels album)

• ... that 1967's Triangle, by rock band The Beau Brummels, "was the album that astonished everyone and blew a million minds?"

• Comment: Added "1967's" for further identification.Gongshow 06:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Created by Gongshow (talk). Self nom at 06:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Mercury-Atlas 8

• ... that the Mercury-Atlas 8 spaceflight (pictured), in October 1962, was piloted by a turtle?

• Comment: It was surprisingly hard to find a hook, but I felt "...was the first ever uninteresting spaceflight?" might be a bit silly.

5x expanded by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

The New Yorkers

• ... that the 1930 musical The New Yorkers received critics for bad taste, and its song "Love for Sale" was subsequently banned from the radio?

5x expanded by JeanColumbia (talk), Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 00:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

2009 Big Ten Conference football season

• ... that during the 2009 Big Ten Conference football season nine of the eleven teams open their season at home?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 04:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Euanthe sanderiana

• ... that Euanthe sanderiana, also called the Waling-waling, was proposed in the House of Representatives of the Philippines to replace the Sampaguita as the country's national flower?

Created by Kguirnela (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• I've italicised the binomial name and removed the italics from the common name. Smartse (talk) 16:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• The article is not long enough yet at only 1298 characters when it needs to be 1500. Please keep expanding. Smartse (talk) 16:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• Article has been expanded; I hope it's now satisfactory.— •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ• 06:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Motoko Sasaki

• ... that Japanese erotic film actress Motoko Sasaki made her screen debut at the advanced age, for the field, of 29, and won a Best Actress award at 36?

Created by Dekkappai (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Dorcheat Historical Association Museum

• ... that the Dorcheat Historical Association Museum preserves the history and culture of life in North Louisiana along the Dixie Overland Highway, which connected the American South with the Pacific Coast?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• Article length: >1500 chars. Date: fine. But hook is 203 characters, which immediately brings out the big orange X. Worse, in my view, is that the inline citation for the hook comes from an invalid source, which violates WP:SELFPUB. A brochure printed by the subject of the article is a little sketchy for my tastes. Yes, self-published sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, but only so long as "the material is not unduly self-serving". The whole point of most brochures is that they are in fact advertisements, and therefore obviously self-serving.

Another question surrounds the basic information that the hook conveys. Is the most interesting thing about this topic a simple description of what the subject is? Surely there's something "hookier" to say about it. The article would greatly benefit of an injection of fresh, secondary sources. A Google search does reveal newspaper articles, which might be of benefit to the article. If the nominator is local to the area, he or she might also be able to find sources not on the internet.

I'm not saying that another hook couldn't be found, or that the article couldn't be improved in time for this DYK nomination to be reassessed, but the present hook is unsuitable both for reasons of length and attribution. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 02:09, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, I think that your nomination of Germantown Colony and Museum on the same day runs the risk of covering some of the same ground in too short of time. If the Germantown Colony article is approved for DYK, this one should, at least, not be approved for the same day's DYK, per WP:Did you know/Guide#Guidance for "prep area" editors. We should be trying to "include items from varied fields of interest, time periods, and parts of the world". CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 02:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to measure, but I think the article is above 1,500 characters.Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

CzechOut knows that, so please read his other objections. ">1500 chars" means "greater than 1500 characters" (see Greater than sign). If you want, I think I could install DYKcheck into your account. I've never done it before except for myself, but I believe I could just create User:Billy Hathorn/monobook.js with the line importScript('User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js'); //DYKcheck tool

Art LaPella (talk) 07:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Sapta Puri

• ... that Sapta Puri represents seven holy Hindu cities of Ayodhya, Dwarka, Haridwar, Ujjain, Kanchipuram, Mathura and Varanasi (pictured); the last city is the holiest?

• Comment: Jointly created by User:Nvvchar and User:Redtigerxyz

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 09:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• Add alt picture. --Redtigerxyz 14:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• I disambiguated Mathura to ] because the Mathura in Uttar Pradesh is the Mathura that is linked in the article. Art LaPella (talk) 18:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks.--Nvvchar (talk) 01:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Rock Creek Canyon Bridge

• ... that when the narrow Rock Creek Canyon Bridge (pictured) in British Columbia was widened and strengthened in 1992, the works were carried out while keeping one lane open to traffic?

Created by AndrewEnns (talk). Nominated by Maedin (talk) at 22:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Loews Philadelphia Hotel

• ... that the Philadelphia Saving Fund Society's headquarters building was only one of two U.S. skyscrapers featured at the 1932 International style exhibition at the Museum of Modern Art?

Created by Medvedenko (talk). Self nom at 20:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Cengiz Topel

• ... that fighter pilot Cengiz Topel (statue pictured), who was shot down in 1964 over Cyprus, was the first Turkish aviator killed in action?

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 20:20, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

• 18px - foreign language ref accepted in good faith. —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 03:48, 24 August 2009 (UTC)Next time I'll Google translate them.
• : - There are numerous doubts if these foreign and kinda pro-Turkish sources are really considered wp:rs. However, it would be ok if some rewording job could be done in order to secure neutrality. My main objections are focused on the phrases: