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Ok, your repeated goading of ] on the talk page of this article has gone on long enough. Your latest comments have descended into ]. It should be clear that Robert K S' use of rollback does not vindicate your position in any way whatsoever, nor does it relate to the content of the above article. Furthermore, your attacks on Bielle and your unfounded charges of racial bias are unwarranted and unfair in the extreme.Consider this a formal warning. Discuss the article and its issues, by all means, but please stop the personalized campaign against the other contributors. We're all there to improve the article and the encyclopedia, so please bear it in mind. Further attacks (yes, attacks) of this nature will only result in your being blocked from editing - ] <sup>]</sup> 00:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC) Ok, your repeated goading of ] on the talk page of this article has gone on long enough. Your latest comments have descended into ]. It should be clear that Robert K S' use of rollback does not vindicate your position in any way whatsoever, nor does it relate to the content of the above article. Furthermore, your attacks on Bielle and your unfounded charges of racial bias are unwarranted and unfair in the extreme.Consider this a formal warning. Discuss the article and its issues, by all means, but please stop the personalized campaign against the other contributors. We're all there to improve the article and the encyclopedia, so please bear it in mind. Further attacks (yes, attacks) of this nature will only result in your being blocked from editing - ] <sup>]</sup> 00:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

::Alison, you are essentially telling me to stop defending ethnic groups against racism. If I have to I will take this issue to the highest authorities and to administrators of various ethnic and racial backgrounds, because it seems to me that in such a way they will be able to analyze the situation at hand and whether or not I am deserving of being threatened by you. I will not capitulate in the face of racism and double standards. My ancestors did not struggle with prejudism just so it can be used against them and their memory here in Misplaced Pages. If anything should happen to my account because I have been fighting prejudice and racism then I will formally write letters to the founders of Misplaced Pages and I will point them to this discussion. I have already documented all related statements into my hard drive database. I will approach this from every moral and ethical avenue possible and I will do so for as long as I must to neutralize the unfair treatment of disadvantaged ethnic groups.--] (]) 00:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

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Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 00:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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Working together

I have the impression that you are rather upset with me after our discussions on the talk pages of Bulgaria and Gradeshnitsa tablets. We've been discussing matters for a few days now. I am not trying to make you upset; I am just trying to help improve these articles.

I realize I have removed and changed some text in these articles and that you disagree with my editing actions. This is a normal interaction on Misplaced Pages. Our task is now to work out our differences to our mutual satisfaction while retaining Misplaced Pages's encyclopedic neutral, encyclopedic point of view.

I wish to note that I was not the only editor who has removed your edits. From your comments, I do get the impression you think I am someone actively working against you. Working against you is not my intent - I am trying to work with you. I want to find the proper place, and way, to address your concerns in Misplaced Pages. I do not dispute the evidence for possible ancient writing in the region of present-day Bulgaria. I dispute that we have reached the proper place, and proper tone: I think we should not discuss this so prominently in the Bulgaria article without a lot more care.

Some of the work that resulted in part from this discussion was actually productive - there is now a Gradeshnitsa tablets article, and you have found some very useful academic articles about the matter of early writing in the region. We should definitely continue with this productive exercise and expand the Gradeshnitsa tablets article.




Possible connection to User:Lantonov

I found myself in a discussion with Monshuai, and a few day later I find user User:Lantonov take text I wrote in this discussion and use it in an entirely different context in another discussion altogether (see User talk:Lantonov for more I wrote on this). Both users are interested in POVs in connection to Bulgaria. Martijn Faassen (talk) 19:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


Your name has been mentioned at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard

You are welcome to join the discussion there. EdJohnston (talk) 05:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Recent edits

I really do not think you can pretend to be more experienced by having a longer participation. You may have some excellent experience in being a columnist, but statements in a style, such as Bulgarian scientists have made several important discoveries and inventions that have revolutionized global society.

-The the world's first electronic digital computer (John Vincent Atanasoff), ushered in the digital-information age, which has led not only to mass computing but to the development of a number of divergent modern technologies such as the Internet. and following, simply don't have a place here. You can either change the style, or return to the previous version. Your call. - ☣Tourbillon 20:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

John Vincent Atanasoff

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on John Vincent Atanasoff. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. - Alison 01:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Alyson, I understand your concerns and I appreciate your effort to resolve this dispute. As you have seen, this has been an ongoing problem for approximately 2 years. At its earlier stages of escalation, I decided to follow Misplaced Pages rules and take time off from this article hoping that Robert K S will mature over a period of one year and therefore find the strength, intellectual resolve and maturity to neutralize his prejudices. Unfortunately as the weeks turned to months and the months to years, it became apparent that he was not willing to accept the valid arguments presented by other editors. Thus I decided that I would once more attempt to reason with him and therefore made sure to always share my perspectives in the discussion page before proceeding to change anything in the Atanasoff article. This too failed. That said, I thank you for taking the time to look into this matter. I appreciate your objective analysis of the situation and I am sure that both Robert K S and I will do our utmost to be productive members of the Wikipedian community. He is articulate and intelligent. If he becomes impartial and compassionate, he will be a truly remarkable editor. Have a great day and I hope we will talk again in more delightful circumstances. You're what every administrator should be: neutral, polite and conscientious.--Monshuai (talk) 02:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok, your repeated goading of User:Robert K S on the talk page of this article has gone on long enough. Your latest comments have descended into personal attacks. It should be clear that Robert K S' use of rollback does not vindicate your position in any way whatsoever, nor does it relate to the content of the above article. Furthermore, your attacks on Bielle and your unfounded charges of racial bias are unwarranted and unfair in the extreme.Consider this a formal warning. Discuss the article and its issues, by all means, but please stop the personalized campaign against the other contributors. We're all there to improve the article and the encyclopedia, so please bear it in mind. Further attacks (yes, attacks) of this nature will only result in your being blocked from editing - Alison 00:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Alison, you are essentially telling me to stop defending ethnic groups against racism. If I have to I will take this issue to the highest authorities and to administrators of various ethnic and racial backgrounds, because it seems to me that in such a way they will be able to analyze the situation at hand and whether or not I am deserving of being threatened by you. I will not capitulate in the face of racism and double standards. My ancestors did not struggle with prejudism just so it can be used against them and their memory here in Misplaced Pages. If anything should happen to my account because I have been fighting prejudice and racism then I will formally write letters to the founders of Misplaced Pages and I will point them to this discussion. I have already documented all related statements into my hard drive database. I will approach this from every moral and ethical avenue possible and I will do so for as long as I must to neutralize the unfair treatment of disadvantaged ethnic groups.--Monshuai (talk) 00:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)