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| == al-Hassan == | |||
| I have replied slightly differently on the talkpage of the History of Gunpowder. This is a longer edited version | |||
| al-Hassan has three books published by ] (one of which, ''Islamic Technology'' (1986)), was also published by ]) and the other two are here . He was Director of the Institute for the History of the Arabic Science, ] and more recently at the Department of Middle Eastern Studies, ]. He appears to meet the criteria of a reliable source. I have a copy of ''Islamic Technology'' (1986) and whilst there are no foot notes, there is a nine-page bibliography that covers English, French and German language sources - including Joseph Needham. | |||
| Partington was first written in 1960 and what he wrote was accurate at that time. I would not be surprised if nearly 50 years later there is a disagreement with newer books. Possibly the most update books on the history of gunpowder are those edited by Brenda Buchanan in 1996 and 2006. | |||
| Where there is a disagreement between reliable sources, the appropriate response is to quote (in this case) all three sources; and to highlight that there are differences between the sources. The requirement of wikipedia is ]. Quotes that are accurately taken al-Hassan appear to meet the criteria of verify; but I have not checked whether he is being accurately quoted | |||
| I could be wrong but from your edit history you appear to favour sources that advocate Chinese primacy; and for Islamic sources you appear to add flags such as {primary sources} or {self published}, possibly because you disagree with the content. With this type of editing history other editors, such as myself, could take a view (right or wrong) that you are biased. ] (]) 21:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Geber == | |||
| Thank you for encouraging me. My problem is that I'm not good at writing in English. I do many grammatical mistakes. When I see inacuracies in Misplaced Pages, most of the times I just delete them without much contributions because I cann't argue with others in English because it is not my native language. ] (]) 13:47, 9 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == re: barnstar == | |||
| You're very welcome. ] (]) 20:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == is it me? == | |||
| {{tn|helpme}} | |||
| I copied this from Geber talk. Am I speaking English? This is not the first time Xashaiar's talk does not match his edits. Is it clear from my talk that Kraus and Haq do not agree? Can you tell which side X is on? Am I the only one with a problem? Should I Just revert again? Can I ask about his command of English without being rude? What should I do? | |||
| :== recent edit == | |||
| I deleted/reverted the which added: "No factual claims can be made about him with certainty." What is this? Out of context? Factual claim about what aspect? Your edit sounds like, we even don't know he lived on earth. Come on.--] (]) 20:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Claims that Jabir is fictional are supported by Kraus, Bertholt, Ruska, and others (dating to the tenth century). Claims that Jabir is not entirely fictional are supported by Holmyard, Sezgin, Lory, and Haq. Syed Nomanul Haq in his book ''Names, Natures and Things: The Alchemist Jabir Ibn Hayyan and His Kitab Al-Ahjar (Book of Stones)'' and his web essay http://cis-ca.org/voices/j/jabir.htm (about his own book) makes the case for a real Jabir. His work is careful and scholarly. He does not present his work as conclusive but raises many questions about the work of others (Kraus in particular). I agree that web based sources are not the best but they are not deleted out of hand and Haq's essay is supported by his published work. Everything about him (Jabir) claimed by one source is disputed by another. We are not here (on wikipedia) to resolve the controversy only to report them. I ask you to show good faith. If you dont like Haq's work take it to the ] noticeboard. In the mean time restore the edit.] (]) 22:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yes non-europeans are all fictional. Science was under earth reserved for/discovered by europeans during their dark ages (). ... come on. Enough is enough. All these stories are mainly the work of Kraus. Why wikipedia should mention his/her name at all? Note ]. Minority view has no place in wikipedia as stated clearly in wiki help pages. Now you have given reference to somebody called haq and his references are Kraus. But the article already is full of his/her theory. So what are you doing? ONE PERSON's opinion can not be given heavy weight. If it really bothers you to have an article about a fictional person, then just delete the article and create another article called "the beautiful remarkable exceptional theory of Kraus". So overall, either delete the article or stop pushing your pov more than this.--] (]) 22:52, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==from Xashaiar talk== | |||
| Your recent edit has taken a bad sentence and rendered it completely unintelligible. According to a famous controversy,thus virtually introduced pseudo-Geber has been considered as the unknown author of several books in Alchemy.. If you tell me what you mean I will try to help you say it.J8079s (talk) 21:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :try to help yourself to understand it. The point that HAS TO be made here is that pseudo-Geber is a virtual character whose existence depends on assuming that Jaber ebn Hayyan is not the real author of those books.--Xashaiar (talk) 07:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::I have two points first is the grammar; the sentence has no meaning in English (even without your Edit). Second whether Pseudo-Geber is the author of the Summa or the translator he is not "virtual". I will post more at Geber talk.J8079s (talk) 19:10, 22 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::of course he/she/it is virtual. He/She/it exists only as a result of denying historically accepted facts.--Xashaiar (talk) 19:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| I understand what you are trying to say. I am deleting your edit as Unintentional nonsense .Feel free to add your point in a way that makes sense and is supported by reliable sources.J8079s (talk) 22:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Help request == | |||
| Hi. | |||
| I have read through the comments above, and it looks like you're having problems over an edit. | |||
| What you should do is; | |||
| 1. Do not revert any more edits in the article; do not add anything, do not remove anything. | |||
| 2. Instead, make your suggestion in the article talk page. | |||
| 3. Discuss it with the other users. Talk about the issue, not the people. | |||
| 4. Try to reach a ] - perhaps a compromise - about the edit. | |||
| During this process, always ]. | |||
| If you cannot agree, or other users will not cooperate, follow the procedures in the ] policy. | |||
| I hope that this will help, | |||
| Good luck. --<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">]]</span></small> 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| I removed the speedy deletion request because I restored the article and think it could be improved further. I think she might meet the notability criteria for her book and process called "Core transformation" alone. ----] <sup> ] ]</sup> 09:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :@J8079s - Please look better next time. On the talk page was mentioned, that this discussion had ] yet. Next to that, you removed the whole text!! What kind of action is that?? Vandalim, is you as me. Please keep Misplaced Pages a clean place. We only have one. ] (]) 16:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::To be fair, J8079s saw the article when it had one line. The rest had been removed by someone else. J8079s did not remove the content. There is legitimate concern that the article content as it currently stands does not meet the wikipedia standards. I know Connirae (along with her partner ]) is very well known within NLP community but there has not been that much attention outside of that specialisation. I found a few book chapters published by Guildford and a few hundred citations to her books and books she's edited. But her work is rarely mentioned in the psychology literature. The previous speedy delete discussion did not reach consensus — so it was kept. I'm am not sure about this one. ----] <sup> ] ]</sup> 03:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC) Note: I did not realise that she has a MA in clinical psychology and PhD in psychotherapy. I added that information to the page. This along with her published works helps establish her notability. ----] <sup> ] ]</sup> 03:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Slavery== | |||
| Hi J8079s, Thank for the revert on the ] article. I was trying to get rid of the gibberish on the page, but inadvertently reverted to the wrong version. Thank you for sorting it out and for leaving a message on the ] who I mistakenly messaged. I've now made removed that and apologised. Thanks again for spotting it. ]] 05:03, 17 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Islamic mathematics == | |||
| Again someone has reverted the article back to the biased point of view which is unfounded as atleast 20-30% of the contrbution was from arabs, this is sourced from wiki pages] (]) 02:03, 23 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Geber== | |||
| The edit is unbiased and accurate, thanks! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:44, 26 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Hi J8079s == | |||
| I'm still trying to gather more useful information and references to use in the pattern welding article, but, here in the north there is not much time for reading in the summer. I've got to use the warm weather while I still can. With natural gas prices being so high I'm forced to spend much of my spare time chopping firewood. I suspect that it'll be October before the really cold weather hits, and then I'll have much, much more time to research this. I'd like to thank you for the help you've provided. Being of Viking ancestry myself, I find the new information I'm learning to be very interesting. ] (]) 01:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Dead links == | |||
| In the future please just mark dead links with the {{tl|dead link}} template so that others can come along and fix the link. Thanks! ] (]) 13:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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