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:::::Toddst1, tell that to Tvoz who writes: "More and more with every edit. Thank you - I was hoping someone else would notice. Thought we had moved on from the good old days, but I should have known better. Next step? Tvoz/talk 03:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Tvoz" > Next step means that Tvoz is contemplating doing something next. Assuming good faith is irrelevant. The person admits planning to hurt me. This is a veiled personal attack. Why will you not help? When people attack, the Misplaced Pages project fails because all someone's attention is then focused on the attack, not on writing articles. ] (]) 04:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | :::::Toddst1, tell that to Tvoz who writes: "More and more with every edit. Thank you - I was hoping someone else would notice. Thought we had moved on from the good old days, but I should have known better. Next step? Tvoz/talk 03:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Tvoz" > Next step means that Tvoz is contemplating doing something next. Assuming good faith is irrelevant. The person admits planning to hurt me. This is a veiled personal attack. Why will you not help? When people attack, the Misplaced Pages project fails because all someone's attention is then focused on the attack, not on writing articles. ] (]) 04:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::::Have you had a previous account here? ] <small>(])</small> 05:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | ::::::Have you had a previous account here? ] <small>(])</small> 05:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC) Yes, but I no longer use it because some other editor (not Tvoz) was making life miserable. That's the problem with Misplaced Pages, too many attacks. I shouldn't say for fear of that other person finding out and then I'd have two groups of people attacking but a clue is that the 2nd letter of the name is "C". How can we stop attacking people from winning and bullying others from editing? ] (]) 05:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC) |
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Admin's advice sought
In regard to recent disagreements as to the nature of vandalism, I'd appreciate your comments on this:
Some recent vandalism to J. A. Chatwin (a Victorian architect).
The editor (Special:contributions/82.36.89.155 / talk) has a track record of recent vandalism, but it's an anon so hard to tell for sure that it's the same person.
Their recent edit looks broadly good (can't think why he was described as using the gothic style rather than classical in the first place), but the claim that Julius Alfred also went by the name "Timmy" rang a few alarm bells. I suspect that it's a more subtle vandal than usual, hiding a hoax wrapped up in a contribution. Would you happen to know whether they did use this name? The editor has now cited a book ref that surely describes the subject, but it's not a book I have on the shelf, so it's impractical to check that the ref supports the cite.
Any comment welcome. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:00, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
- Replied on ANI and User talk:82.36.89.155. Toddst1 (talk) 17:48, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for that 8-) Andy Dingley (talk) 19:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
97.106.41.108 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) Block Evasion
Has reappeared under 72.186.97.162 (talk · contribs) and 70.126.138.177 (talk · contribs) same edit comments for Michael Scofield and avoiding discussion page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.218.41 (talk) 17:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, that block was for 55 hours in June - long since expired, so it's not block evasion. However, there are some troubling edits there. Toddst1 (talk) 20:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- Apologies, as a normal user, I am not privy to the ban length and mistakenly believed it was still in force by the notification remaining on the talk page. His IP address has changed again today and now appears purely dynamic. 149.254.218.41 (talk) 21:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Smallville pages
Could you protect Smallville (season 1), Smallville (season 2), Smallville (season 3), and Smallville (season 5) as well? Those pages were involved as well. The IP in question just thought the links were dumb, but a different user (I assume a different one) claims the links are spam simply because they appear on five pages. I have tried to explain that WP:SPAM does not restrict the use of relevant links to specific pages, even of it's the same link that covers multiple topics but they don't seem to want to believe me. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- The user in question, which is the one below, apparently doesn't believing in actually discussing and is just blindly reverting me. You can look at the link yourself. Here is the page. I found it on my university search engine, and it was written by an assistant professor Dr. Jes Battis, who apparently writes a lot of these types of peer journals and books. The journal talks about season 1 - 5, so I put it in the EL section of those pages because there currently isn't a "Themes" section in those articles. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- User Bignole, you have been spamming external links to wikipedia pages, you have been edit warring to keep those spam links in e.g. where you have made four reverts in less than one hour, and now you have gotten an IP blocked to keep your spam in. Martin451 (talk) 23:06, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- How is it not a reliable source? It's a scholarly source, that has been around for some 35 years. Everything that is submitted to them is reviewed by their editors and board members. I'm lost as to what criteria is fails to make it an unreliable source. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 03:03, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- You've returned to redact your warning on my talk page, but could you please answer the question I posed to you last night? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 15:18, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- How is it not a reliable source? It's a scholarly source, that has been around for some 35 years. Everything that is submitted to them is reviewed by their editors and board members. I'm lost as to what criteria is fails to make it an unreliable source. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 03:03, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, so that brings back my point to my original argument and why I kept putting the link back. I'm not justifying my edit warring, but you agreed to remove a link that appears to meet WP:RS--at least you haven't told me a specific criteria that it fails--and is clearly not WP:SPAM (which you agreed to originally). So, why again am I in the wrong for keeping the link? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 16:20, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Blocking of IP User talk:66.14.104.80
User talk:66.14.104.80 has been removing spam inserted by user User:Bignole, Bignole has given the IP 2 warnings for removing his spam, before reporting the IP to WP:AIV for vandalism, when the IP is just removing external links that should not be there. Could you please take another look at this matter. Martin451 (talk) 22:50, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- Upon further investigation it seems to be a bilateral, unambiguous edit war. While I wouldn't quite characterize that EL as spam, it certainly fails WP:RS. Thanks for pointing that out to me. Toddst1 (talk) 02:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
About the ANON IP you've blocked
Hi~! Refer to User talk:76.31.109.45, he just blanked his page after you BLOCKED him, suggest reblock again with disability to edit own talk page. --Dave1185 (talk) 02:22, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- S/He is allowed to do that. Toddst1 (talk) 02:31, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Along with the "Blocked" template? --Dave1185 (talk) 02:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yup. As long as there wasn't a declined
{{unblock}}
template in the mix. Toddst1 (talk) 02:42, 8 October 2009 (UTC)- I see, what about the whois template? Is he allowed to blanked that too? Pardon me for being nosy, I just wanna clarify things or I might get into trouble the next time when I do revert such blankings in future. --Dave1185 (talk) 02:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, thank you for your persistence. I missed that. I've restored those templates. Toddst1 (talk) 02:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- No problem since you've sent my fingers going on a head-scratching mission, thought I might as well find out more. =) --Dave1185 (talk) 02:54, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/74.220.224.226
You should probably change the block reasoning to {{schoolblock}}.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Not sure I follow why. Look at the edit summaries. Toddst1 (talk) 04:01, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- It's an IP that belongs to a school. This is more or less a juvenile prank.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Could be. Regardless, the legal threats couldn't be clearer. I'm fine with how it is. Feel free to change it if you feel strongly. Toddst1 (talk) 04:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)- I think you're right. I've changed it. Thanks for your persistence. Toddst1 (talk) 04:42, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- It's an IP that belongs to a school. This is more or less a juvenile prank.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Blanked again
Hi~! Please take a look at User talk:136.160.248.5, the temp-block, whois and warning template was intentionally blanked again. Think should set to cannot edit own talk page in oreder to solve this persistent problem. --Dave1185 (talk) 15:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. The ipinfo must stay. Toddst1 (talk) 15:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
70.181.39.248
Thanks for your help in dealing with this IP vandal. By the by, I fixed the repeat vandal template you added to the IP's talk page, as what appeared was just "Template:repeatvanal" ... so I added the "d" and it looks fine now. Thanks again. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 20:16, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
A strange thing happened today
This edit got me confused, please take a look and tell me what you think. --Dave1185 (talk) 17:04, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Request for my own blocking
Hi Toddst1,
I'm ready to make a new account and have a fresh start. However, as several editors have mentioned on my talkpage, that would be hard to do considering my 1RR restriction. As you probably remember, I consented to 1RR under the condition that you would unblock me, when I had less than 24 hours left on my original block. So what I am asking is that you block me for 24 hours, and the 1RR disregarded. That way my restriction will not be an issue, because I do genuinely wish to start over. Thank you. POKERdance /contribs 20:40, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Better yet, how about you promise to never edit war and we lift the 1RR all together? I'd record that it was lifted in the block log. Any current blocks are not up for discussion. Deal? Toddst1 (talk) 22:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Deal. No edit wars. That's a better solution. Farewell I guess, at least under this name. POKERdance /contribs 01:39, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Done! Please say hi when you're back with a fresh start. Don't hesitate to ask for help and best of luck with the fresh start! Toddst1 (talk) 16:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Deal. No edit wars. That's a better solution. Farewell I guess, at least under this name. POKERdance /contribs 01:39, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
A strange thing happened today
This edit got me confused, please take a look and tell me what you think. --Dave1185 (talk) 17:04, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Your message
Todd, why you should care what I do to my Talk page is quite beyond me. There are Wikipedians who even wipe messages right out.
As for what language I use to communicate with other users, I'll use whichever one I jolly well like. That's between me and the intended reader. It has nothing to do with you. Learn a little tolerance, please.Kelisi (talk) 01:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- That was a threat, Todd. I don't appreciate that.Kelisi (talk) 06:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- The page you pointed me at says:
- On your own user talk page, you may remove others' comments, although archiving is generally preferred.
- So be it. Kelisi (talk) 23:55, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Language
The guideline says, under the heading Good Practices:
- Use English: No matter to whom you address a comment, it is preferred that you use English on English Misplaced Pages talk pages. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, try to also provide a translation of the comments. If you are requested to do so and cannot, you should either find a third party to translate or to contact a translator through the Misplaced Pages:Embassy.
"Preferred", it says, not "mandatory". If it's the messages at the top of my Talk page that have annoyed you, these are unavoidable. Those are there to welcome users from other projects who may speak little or no English, and to instruct them on how to make a link to their Talk page on their "home" Misplaced Pages. I welcome constructive, civil comments from anyone, even if they're in French, German or Spanish. As for translations, the three messages at the top are essentially translated by the message in that fourth box. If you are requesting a translation of something that I've written, I can do that for you, or you can save time and use a translation website (although you should be warned that these are sometimes notoriously inaccurate).
As I have now removed the offending entry from my Talk page (and I noticed that you edited it, too, first reverting it and then reverting your own reversion), and explained my unavoidable use of other languages, I hope the matter is resolved to your satisfaction.
If it is not, and you really believe that WP has a serious problem with me, would you please hand my case off to another administrator? It seems a bit excessive that I get threatened with blocking after all the contributions that I've made, especially in the area of German translations and maps, when my only peccadillo over the last three years or so has been to corrupt a message on my own Talk page, a message that was pointless anyway since the impending speedy deletion that it warned of had already happened by the time I read it. Kelisi (talk) 00:27, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Kelisi, It's clear that you're a solid contributor and I don't want to see you blocked. I don't have a problem with you and it looks like we've solved the issue about changing the other users' comments, so as far as I'm concerned as long as that doesn't happen again (and I doubt it will) there is no danger of being blocked.
- You are exactly right that we prefer English and it's not mandatory. I don't know of anyone being blocked for using non-english language (and I'm not going to be the first to do it) but it is strongly encouraged to have conversations in English and if not, provide translations. The stuff at the top of your page is no big deal. I did notice a couple of conversations in German and Spanish which is what I was referring to. Para mi, no es una problema, porque Ich sprech ein bis. However I'm frequently asked to assist in disputes where part of the problem has occurred in other languages. For some reason this seems to happen most in articles having to do with the Balkans and it's really difficult to figure out. That's why I do ask people to comment in English.
- It's not my practice to mess with established, solid contributors such as yourself but as you can see above, I was asked to look in to the matter. I think we're done. Let me know if I can be of assistance. Cheers. Toddst1 (talk) 11:00, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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Hey, as I see you didn't answer me on my talk page, so I will ask you here. Quote:
"You didn't blocked that other account, even though his account is just created to revert edits, which his reverts was reverted by 3 other people. Consensus was reached, as he deleted Montenegrin language, while some deleted Serbian Cyrillic, I added both, while he deletes Montenegrin one. It was ok for me, Hxseek and few other wikipedians that it was a South Slavic state. What's the point of reaching consensus when he doesn't want to talk. If he do, he would answer to my warnings. Bye. Rave92(talk) 19:25, 11 October 2009 (UTC) . It looks like I am not the only one that reverts his edits: http://en.wikipedia.org/Constantine_Bodin but no, ban the one that actually works on improving wikipedia. Rave92(talk) 22:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)"
Rave92 18:43, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Replied on User_talk:Rave92#Balkan-related_sanction_imposed Toddst1 (talk) 20:03, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Hiperbarrio
Just a friendly heads up on Hiperbarrio. I declined the speedy because after you placed the tag the creator made claims of importance on the talk page. I've advised the creator to fix the advert and notability issues; as always, feel free to prod or take to AfD. Cheers! --Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Keysvolume
Hi, Thanks for addressing my concern. I rewrote the report as the links were disfunctional and realized that by the time I submitted them again, the issue has been addressed. Sorry about that - I am relatively new so slightly messy!
Thanks again! Oftenhurry (talk) 18:45, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
For jumping on the AIV report so quickly. I hate to shout online, but I figured the situation was warranted. Best, --Bfigura 22:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, that was one of the more despicable events I've seen. I'd have shouted too. Toddst1 (talk) 23:50, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
User:Public computer account
I just want to confirm that you are also using User:Public computer account as a legitimate second account, so I can unblock you. :) -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:11, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. 8-) Toddst1 (talk) 23:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Resolution status
Thank you for your message telling me such.
This seems very strange. One person, like you, can dictate when to call something resolved, even if it is really not resolved. In AFD's, I've seen people complain when someone decides to close it right away. But if that is the way things are, so it is. Thank you again for letting me know about this. If there is a written policy about this, please let me know. If it is just unwritten custom, also let me know. Thank you.PresChicago (talk) 04:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- As an administrator, I've been given a fair amount of discretion on certain matters, subject to peer review. If there was any agreement with your position whatsoever from any of the other editors that commented on your ANI post, I would have left the discussion open. As it is, it appears to be frivolous. Toddst1 (talk) 04:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- You may be an administrator, but you lack tact. Calling someone else frivolous is very rude. But that is ok as society is less polite than in our grandparents' days.
- But as we speak, this other editor, Tvoz, is extremely aggressive and disruptive. Tvoz is the one that followed me to Jeter's article. Now Tvoz is plotting to attack me more, planning schemes with this other Achiles person as described on Tvoz' talk page. This is really wikihounding and trying some sort of personal attack. You should try to make Misplaced Pages a place where people edit freely and nicely and not let these bad things happen. This Tvoz person seems to hint that I am somebody that Tvoz hates. If I were stalking Tvoz, that may be plausible. But look at the history and you'll see that Tvoz followed me and found me. Then Tvoz is scheming against me. A normal person or good editor would not do that. I hope that you are an honorable person and good administrator and tell Tvoz to mind her (I know now) own business. Please help put a stop to Tvoz' attacking. PresChicago (talk) 04:41, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Toddst1, tell that to Tvoz who writes: "More and more with every edit. Thank you - I was hoping someone else would notice. Thought we had moved on from the good old days, but I should have known better. Next step? Tvoz/talk 03:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Tvoz" > Next step means that Tvoz is contemplating doing something next. Assuming good faith is irrelevant. The person admits planning to hurt me. This is a veiled personal attack. Why will you not help? When people attack, the Misplaced Pages project fails because all someone's attention is then focused on the attack, not on writing articles. PresChicago (talk) 04:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Have you had a previous account here? Toddst1 (talk) 05:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC) Yes, but I no longer use it because some other editor (not Tvoz) was making life miserable. That's the problem with Misplaced Pages, too many attacks. I shouldn't say for fear of that other person finding out and then I'd have two groups of people attacking but a clue is that the 2nd letter of the name is "C". How can we stop attacking people from winning and bullying others from editing? PresChicago (talk) 05:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Toddst1, tell that to Tvoz who writes: "More and more with every edit. Thank you - I was hoping someone else would notice. Thought we had moved on from the good old days, but I should have known better. Next step? Tvoz/talk 03:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Tvoz" > Next step means that Tvoz is contemplating doing something next. Assuming good faith is irrelevant. The person admits planning to hurt me. This is a veiled personal attack. Why will you not help? When people attack, the Misplaced Pages project fails because all someone's attention is then focused on the attack, not on writing articles. PresChicago (talk) 04:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)