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Thank you, El C for responding! I followed your suggestion and placed my thoughts on the DOM talk page for your consideration. Please let me know if it is concise and your thoughts, too. Sincerely, ] 05:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

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If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.


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Archived Discussions

Archive Sam Spade apology


1948 Arab-Israeli War

You unprotected the 1948 Arab-Israeli War article, with comment "I hope the protection period proved productive". I am sorry to crush your hope, but the matter is currently under arbitration. Unprotecting the article would be unwise at this time.-- Heptor talk 03:01, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

PS: Did you make the fractals yourself? Cool. -- Heptor talk 03:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi. No, they're from Commons. My hopes are not crushed, nor was the page unprotected yet, I am still waiting to review any objections. Regards, El_C 03:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
I think the page should stay protected for now, at least until we see how things are going in the arb case. Btw, your input on that page would be most appreciated. --Zero 07:53, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, okay, if you think that's best. Sure, I'll try to figure out what's what soon. Bring on the paranormal investigators! Regards, El_C 07:59, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Ehm, the reason for this request is mostly that I stayed up a little too late yesterday. If this it bad, you should have seen what I wrote on the ARMA model (fixed it now, of course). -- Heptor talk 12:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Heh, no, you're good; but I think you got the wrong idea what was meant by "paranormal investigator", which luckily will have no bearing on the accuracy or lack thereof in the investigation of the paranormal. El_C 13:28, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
OMFG, PPPLEASE DON'T!!!! -- Heptor talk 18:09, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
My thoughts exactly! I mean, what? Regards, El_C 01:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Islam in the United States

Hi El C. There have been responses to unprotection here. Thanks --a.n.o.n.y.m 17:44, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. Regards, El_C 01:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Wishes

Hello, I wish you and your family a prosperous and happy New Year 2006! We shall surely remain actively involved in the Project Misplaced Pages. --Bhadani 17:13, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks, Bhadani. Best wishes to you & yours for a joyful as well as productive 2006! Yours, El_C 00:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Hebrew wiki

Try the 1929 massacre "טבח חברון" The role of the mufti there is well shown and if you copy thisd into 1929 you will be reverted. So to argue that that Hebrew wiki is "the authorative source" can not be accepted. Zeq 06:38, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I made no such argument, 'tis a featured article, though. Copy what? I'm not following that at all. El_C 07:13, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

If you're interested

Been working hard on the Shoshone National Forest article as I promised...have a look...have recently expanded the section discussing glaciers and global warming...I'm almost done covering most I can and I'm probably going to send it off to peer review in a week or so...if you see anything that needs changing, well, don't hesitate!--MONGO 12:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Looking good! Real good! Well done. Will have a closer look soon. Cordially & sincerely yours, El_C 13:00, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

k, sorry

I just saw the comment by Pgk that it messes up the main page, didn't realise that - You didn't say *why* you were changing, which would've helped :) --Mistress Selina Kyle 14:10, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

No problem. I see. Still, when in doubt, please ask (i.e. assume a rational impetus). Thanks again. El_C 14:20, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Costa Rica

Squeakbox says the Costa Rica statement violates the NPOV i dont think it does because its just a statement people have made to about Costa Rica. XGustaX Could you please help me out buddy? XGustaX

Has the matter been resolved now? Looks like you both violated 3RR. As mentioned earlier, the passage was translated from a print encyclopedia, and I also provided further authoritative sources at that time (on the talk page). El_C 23:15, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

For last year's words belong to last year's language

And next year's words await another voice.
And to make an end is to make a beginning.
T.S. Eliot, "Little Gidding"
Happy New Year! ≈ jossi ≈ t@ 20:24, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! Happy New Year! El_C 23:15, 31 December 2005 (UTC) — Now! El_C 00:00, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Er...

Tried what? To delete that userbox? -- Миборовский 04:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Tried to indent my signature without all the blank space. El_C 04:51, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Wording

I apologize for my use of the term "illegal". What I meant was "out of process" (i.e. not following WP:TFD). In hindsight, I agree that the original term was too inflammatory. Firebug 15:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Apology accepted. Thanks. El_C 15:53, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Userpage

What's the latest change to your userpage supposed to mean? -- Essjay · Talk 15:39, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Good question! Sadly, I no longer recall much, except that looking at Mia suddenly made me very, very sleepy. Almost as if she was singing to me: ♪Trust in me, just in me, close your eyes and trust in me.♪ Hypnotic! /slips into silent slumber, sails on a silver mist. El_C 15:53, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Faux-wikiStalinist userbox

Your Che picture and quote give me indigestion inspires me to adopt the revolutionary path, but that userbox goes on the list of funniest wikimoments of all time, and it's now on my userpage and User:Phroziac's userpage, thanks! Babajobu 17:16, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

For sure! I also applied some friendly censorship to your outrageous counter-revolutionary subversion! El_C 17:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Reproduced

Counter-counter response

File:Stalin3.jpgThis user actively participated in the Great 2006 New Year's Day Userbox Purge, and would do it again. El_C 12:11, 1 January 2006 (UTC)


Users who disendorse this summary (sign with ~~~~):

  1. Your lameness knows no bounds. Kitty 12:18, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
    I echo that. Stop following me already! El_C 12:19, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
    Not to mention you stole that template. Kitty 12:29, 1 January 2066 (UTC)
    I have no idea what you're talking about. El_C 12:29, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
    Riiight. It wasn't funny the third time, it's not gonna be funny the sixth time. Idiot. Kitty 12:30, 1 January 2666 (UTC)
    Actually, I laughed. It was funny! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
    I laughed, too. It's actually very funny. I particularly like the "and would do it again." LOL Sarah Ewart 14:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
    LOLZ-until-heart-attack, that is so funny, OMG thank you El_C, I'm putting it on my userpage!! Babajobu 16:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
    You reproduced it? Why do you even bother? Nobody cares. Kitty 12:45, 1 January 2060 (UTC)
    Can you just shut up already. El_C 18:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

The Counter Strike

Template:User survived   - By User:Miborovsky --81.77.195.114 15:41, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

  Users who think this is all playground madness (sign with ~~~~):

  1. See, now everyone can see you stole it from Hmib. Idiot. Kitty 16:00, 1 January 2606 (UTC)
    What, I didn't say anything! El_C 16:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
    This is just pathetic at this point. Ugen was right to mock you. And you actually approached him on his talk page! I can't believe what an idiot you are. Kitty 12:45, 1 January 2660 (UTC)

What the heck

What the heck is going on here? I just went to have a little NPA chat with Kitty, only to see Red's note and wonder if I'd missed something. Somebody please tell me what the heck is going on! -- Essjay · Talk 03:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I doubt he'll comment. I think that, at this point, Kitty is concentrating on less NPAing — wish him luck! El_C 16:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Qur'an Image Removal

The image is not suitable to Quran holiness Zanoon 17:21, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I, for one, do not consider any book to be holy, but that aside, why do you find it unsuitable? El_C 17:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hi El C. Happy New Year! Just wanted to point out that banned user:enviroknot is currently editing the Islamist Terrorism article using anon IP 66.69.139.191. Definitely enviroknot; check contribs where he tried to remove the sock tag from an old enviroknot sockpuppet. Thanks. --a.n.o.n.y.m 18:35, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Happy new year, AE! I'll try to have a look at it soon, but now is not a good time, I'm afraid. El_C 18:37, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

A familiar problem

I think you've probably had some experiences with User:CJK (I imagine none good). He has, unfortunately, found the page List of dictators that I am one of three or four "maintainers" on. As a start, he started out adding various USA boosterism to talk pages (or more specifically, anti-Communist ranting). That wasn't so bad, being talk pages and all. But unfortunately, it seems to be leading where I thought it would lead: mostly, so far, to moderately bad changes to the Castro entry (chiefly, so far, in removal of citations on the grounds they are not "sufficiently anti-Castro"). But I fear it portend even more obnoxious changes, probably spreading to other items.

I think he'll probably violate 3RR soon (takes one more edit). So maybe that will keep him away on a short-term block. From what I can see of his edit history, such would be very transient relief though. Any advice by chance? These ideological warriors are just so damned frustrating to deal with while editing any pages with vaguely political content. The dictators one, maybe not surprisingly, gets more anti-Castro fanatics than all other destructive edits combined. Moreover, it's not even a dispute about listing Castro, it's just that they seem to feel that the annotation isn't sufficiently long and vitriolic for their tastes (but what they add is never germane to the list inclusion criteria, which is what we annotate). Blech! Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 18:58, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Bletch! indeed. When an encyclopedia project reports the lie about "free elections" in Cuba, I feel the need to resist. How evil of me. CJK 19:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
My apologies, but I'll have to review this issue later, I need a bit of a reprieve from conflict. Thank you both for your patience. El_C 19:20, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism by 12.41.207.162?

Earlier today you reverted nearly two dozen edits by 12.41.207.162 where the user added links to the "MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base" web site. At first blush, this appeared to me to be spam, however upon further review, I am not so sure now. While the link is clearly not appropriate for some of the more specific articles such as Babbar Khalsa and National Liberation Front of Tripura, it looks like it could be a good external resource link for more general articles such as Nationalist terrorism, State-sponsored terrorism, etc. --Kralizec! 18:15, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I haven't reviewed the website closely, in that sense (though I would prefer x terrorism-specific, preferably non-repetitive links) — use your discretion. El_C 18:20, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
This was gleaned from the MIPT website's "about us" page:
The National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism (MIPT) is a non-profit organization dedicated to preventing terrorism on U.S. soil or mitigating its effects. MIPT was established after the April 1995 bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City, and it is funded through the Department of Homeland Security's Office for State and Local Government Coordination and Preparedness (OSLGCP).
The United States Congress directed MIPT to conduct “research into the social and political causes and effects of terrorism” through our automated information systems and to “serve as a national point of contact for antiterrorism information sharing among Federal, State and local preparedness agencies, as well as private and public organizations dealing with these issues.” MIPT firmly believes that the accurate dissemination of knowledge on terrorism is a critical ingredient for combating terrorism. Serving the needs of emergency responders, counterterrorism practitioners, policymakers, and the public, MIPT offers access to a wealth of information resources including its knowledge base initiatives, its website, and its library collection.
While I could be mistaken, this looks to be a good resource for the general purpose terrorism articles. --Kralizec! 18:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm leaning toward singular usage (i.e. Terrorism) at this stage; see my comment above. El_C 18:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

possible request for comment?

I am inclined to let it slide because I think I am dealing with a nut-case. But do you consider this (the last sentence) an anti-Semitic threat? Slrubenstein | Talk 19:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it certainly seems suggestive of being exactly that. Let me know what happens. Regards, El_C 19:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Widey pages

I have no idea. It seems to do that every few weeks. ;-) SlimVirgin 20:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

You must fix that immediately, or terrifyingly harsh penalties will follow! El_C 20:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Is the poem below by Ghoreselkhi, or by Brecht? It sounds like Brecht (meaning: it is good). As far as I can tell the wideying problem on Slim's talk page has NOT been solved. About pages for deletion, would you mind nominating it? I'll second, but I have been such a contentious part of the debaate on the talk page I do not think I am the best person to make the initial proposal, Slrubenstein | Talk 21:20, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, by comrade Ghoreselkhi! :) Looks solved to me, but maybe I'm running a higehr resolution than you. Anyway, it's listed here. El_C 23:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks X 2 Slrubenstein | Talk 00:06, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

NP. AfD is kinda complixcated now; took me a while to figure out I need === for the title (not one, not two, not four, nor five). Of course, all I actually had to do is look at any other entry, but no, I had to go through a process of elimination! Yay! El_C 00:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Moderate, Mediate, Whatever

Yeah, I did :-P I am technically moderating regardless, but i'll page move. karmafist 05:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Not to overtax the subtleties! El_C 05:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)


poetry


Why should poetry not be a slogan?

Why should poetry not be

biased

when life is not at all itself

For life's sake,

I expect a poem to be

a slogan

a dagger

a fist

and a bullet if necessary



DOM

Thank you, El C for responding! I followed your suggestion and placed my thoughts on the DOM talk page for your consideration. Please let me know if it is concise and your thoughts, too. Sincerely, Johnski 05:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)