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Explanation

To clarify my involvement in the hornets nest: I was asked to review procedural issues by RashersTierney. I am quite well versed in the basics of these now: I deal with contemporary music which requires me to understand the nature of AfD, PROD, incubation, sourcing, pagemoving, etc etc, mainly due to the huge number of BLPs we have to deal with and the various new musical concepts/movements/etc that pop up all the time. I will help out where I can with procedural issues but I have no intention of getting drawn into the nitty-gritty of the debate—I already noticed the bad blood out there and I am, anyway, not at all versed enough in the subject to help much with the decisions they have to make. Thanks for the kind warning though, Seb! --Jubilee♫clipman 22:46, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I've got Twinkle

I can warn as well. But thanks for helping.Abce2 (talk) 03:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I know... It appears we pressed the button simultaneously. Twinkle does that sometimes. :) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 03:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Huh, unusual to happen twice in a row, though, no?Abce2 (talk) 03:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Yepp, but it does happen :) No offense, I know you can handle it. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 03:28, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Too late. But how would I be offended by that comment?Abce2 (talk) 03:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Well... I meant the double-warnings. I didn't mean to "patronize" you. Some people would take that as a offense. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 03:33, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm confused on what I'm supposed to be offended at. :)Abce2 (talk) 03:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. So don't be :P Let's get back to vandal-fighting... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 03:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikiout

WuhWuzDat 05:50, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Had plans for that day anyways :P Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 05:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Why are you removing contact information of award awarding authority

HI, Seb, Why are you removing contact information of award awarding authority of the page IITK Satyendra K Dubey Memorial Award? Is there anything wrong if people contact the government of India officials to know more about it? Thanks. Rawat (talk) 08:17, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

You have been given an explanation by I42 on Talk:IITK Distinguished Alumni Awards 2009-2010. I concur. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 08:20, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Not Vandalism

I don't know what you think counts as vandalism in my Justin Mentell edits, but you're obviously wrong.

Declaring someone dead w/o citing a source is vandalism. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 22:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Help needed

Thanks for your timely intervention. I don't mind saying that we could do with experienced help in addressing the histories and incubation issues. As i said elsewhere, I don't pretend to any expertise in this area, and personal life demands my time at the moment. Trying desperately to do the right thing wrt the Passports. What should our next practical step be? RashersTierney (talk) 23:20, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

If the plan stands to create these "Visa requirements for..."-articles, the only way to preserve the histories is this:

• Move the entire article to the new title
• Convert the resulting redirect into the new stub
• Look for people to turn the resulting stub into a full article.

It's basically too late for the "Romania" deal, but for all others, this procedure should be followed in order to comply with CC3-licensing Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 00:57, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

This makes sense. How difficult are the first two points? What do the community at Talk:Passport need to be advised of as regards changing what we're doing - reversing procedures without raising worries that there is some sinister reversal of the current overall process. I'm not sure a dramatic 'stop press' on my part would be productive. Thoughts? RashersTierney (talk) 01:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Most important: don't copy-paste. That's the only thing that messes things up. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 01:16, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

So at least for the former AfD'd articles, we need to get them back to the status quo ante with the Visa-free section included, move them to 'Visa free travel for X citizens', and essentially start new corresponding new Passport articles? (sorry for being pedantic, can only dip into Misplaced Pages infrequently just now.) RashersTierney (talk) 01:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Correct. (I don't think copy-pasting the one-liner is a problem, and neither is the infobox.) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 01:56, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

yes sorry didnt mean blank the page, please delete my page, i was no vandal —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adroito (talk • contribs) 06:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

for this :-) Anna Lincoln 09:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I admire your patience... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 09:24, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Die Antwoord

Um,you should not be moderating articles on Rock'n Roll/Pop Culture,you don't understand it.Elvis was a hillbilly who drove to venues on dirtroads drinking moonshine with his buddies/bandmates making his legend.No one bothered to film the unknown Beatles in 1960 practicing in one of their houses but if that footage surfaced today how many millions do you think it would be auctioned for? During the last 24 hours while you've been trying to delete this entry this group's 2 videos on their official YouTube channel went from 100,000 views to 250,000,they've been up 3 weeks,that is some serious exponential growth.That Die Burger article you mentioned,they're not introducing the band are they? They're commenting on a well known entity,they are also expressing concern cause they've already determined that that entity has value.That article also states that when they recently launched their site it was so overwhelmed with worldwide visitors that it crashed twice in the 1st 24 hours.A site crashing? Is it 1997? How often does that happen in 2010? Also,i saw where you dismiss Facebook yet in that Die Burger article they say if you've seen that missing member contact them there.Anyways,since you insist on hoary media institution coverage,New York mag and San Fran Bay Guardian covered them(how many bands from S. Africa have been covered in any American media outlet,ever?)and they were on tv(Attack of the Show!).As of this writing iTunes doesn't even have this group but i guarantee they're scrambling to get them so check back soon and they'll be in the top ten so let that fact guide your deleting hand in the future... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ground Wave (talk • contribs) 08:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Take your rant to AfD... but before that, read WP:N and WP:RS. None of your claims had been substantiated thus far. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 08:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

What is your opinion? Share with us!

We are having problems to reach a stable consensus about removal of visa-free sections from the Passport articles. Please share your opinion with us here: Talk:Passport and here: a request for mediation Thanks.--Avala (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm observing the developments. If I feel I have something to say, I will say it; however, I really don't need to be canvassed. Thanks. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 17:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Macai

You may wish to know that I have made a request for article probation enforcement against Macai. Please see Misplaced Pages:General sanctions/Climate change probation/Requests for enforcement#Macai. -- ChrisO (talk) 10:07, 6 February 2010 (UTC)