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Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Judaism

Please join Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Judaism and add your name at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Judaism#Directory of participants. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. IZAK 01:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Orthodox Judaism

Hi again Shmaltz: Thought you would be interested in the latest adventure that has started at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Orthodox Judaism (perhaps you may want to join) and the discussions at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Orthodox Judaism. Shabbat Shalom. IZAK 12:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Re BMG: I hear, but I'm not so convinced that your conclussion is so straight forward so as to write that in an Encyclopedia...Phetter 15:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Ask anybody that went thru the process, it's up to his discretion, and *his* discretion *only*.--Shmaltz 15:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

א שיינעם דאנק

פאר דיין לייגן דא אינטערוויקיס צום יידישן וויקיפעדיע, דאס איז זייער וויכטיק אויף צו בריינגען דארט מער מענטשן און בארימען אונדזער וויקיפעדיע. Jiddisch 20:34, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Vote request

Please Vote, as per wiktionary the correct spelling is Wiktionary:anti-Semitic NOT Antisemitic. 70.49.85.238 20:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Chillul Hashem

In our politically correct society, the term "The Crazy House" would be considered a lack of sensitivity to the mentally challenged. I am sure it is not your intention to add to a stereotype of yeshivish people being haughty and unkind.

While I agree with you, it stil doesn't change the fact that it is called 'The crazy house' and as such I'm going to reverse it. Because the only reason you give is the C"H, you are admiting that you are writing false info in a Misplaced Pages article.--Shmaltz 04:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely not. I dispute that it is called the crazy house; I was merely calling your attention to the fact that the Original research that you insist on including in the article is a C"H. My friend, the burden of proof lies with you- do you have a verifiable source saying that a Beth Medrash Gevoha dormitory building is commonly called "the crazy house"? If you do, then by all means source it in the article. If not, then please do not include original research in Misplaced Pages. 38.117.213.19 23:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

You say that you dispute that it is called the crazy house, are you currently a student in BMG? I am, and it is called the crazy house. NOR is what you mean, and read it again, this doesn't qualify as original research, if anything I'm a primary source. I'm therefore reversing it.--Shmaltz 02:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:NOR, baby. And if you are indeed a student at BMG, what on earth are you doing on Misplaced Pages? ;0) - crz crztalk 05:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Shmaltz, I will quote from wikipedia policy "Primary sources that have been published by a reliable source may be used in Misplaced Pages ". That means that your anectodal evidence is just that- unverifiable, and cannot be included in wikipedia. 38.117.213.19 06:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Again you are chosing what to write so that you can push your agenda. I will quote from that same policy: Primary sources are documents or people very close to the situation you are writing about. An eyewitness account of a traffic accident is a primary source. Since I'm a student I am a primary source.--Shmaltz 14:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Please familiarize yourself with wikipedia policy. What you have quoted is the definition of what a primary source is. However, if you continue reading the policy you will notice that the very next sentence says that "only primary sources that have been published by a reliable source may be used" in wikipedia. Since you have not provided any source quoting you, as of now your information is unverifiable and cannot be included.68.198.236.57 18:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

For your edification, I quote from another wikipedia policy, No Original Research,

"Citing oneself:

This policy does not prohibit editors with specialist knowledge from adding their knowledge to Misplaced Pages, but it does prohibit them from drawing on their personal knowledge without citing their sources. If an editor has published the results of his or her research in a reliable publication, then s/he may cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our NPOV policy."

Good luck editing in the future, and remember to carefully read wikipedia policy. 68.198.236.57 18:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Read that policy again, it does NOT put a condition for being published somwhere if you are the person close to the situation. You are pushing an agenda with false information which in wikipedia means vandalism. To do that you had to add a word to the policy you added the word Only which is NOT present in the policy. The second policy you quote about (which is actuly the same as the first) is only when someone is acting from his knowledge, thats not what I'm doing, I'm a person close to the situation because I'm a student at BMG and thats what we call that building every time we refer to it, and that's what that article is saying what that building is called.--Shmaltz 18:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

My friend, even without the word "only" the policy remains the same: "primary sources that have been published by a reliable source may be used".

I understand your frustration, however please understand that the differentiation between primary sources and secondary sources is primarily concerning interpretation, i.e. a primary source quoted (with sources) must remain uninterpreted by an editor. A secondary source is considered the only way to validly interpret a happening or fact. Again, please read the policies carefully. Misplaced Pages welcomes everyones contributions- as long as they comply with the three core policies. Good luck.68.198.236.57 19:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Crazy House

No, I am not a student there. Yes, I've been there and it's called the crazy house. It is still OR. Therefore, unless you can site a fricken independent reliable source to the contrary, we won't have this on WP. Besides, why would you want this chillul D' here? - crz crztalk 19:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Please go and manually revert yourself. You are in the wrong. - crz crztalk 19:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

No you are wrong, since all you are telling me is that because of C"H you are vadalising an article, That's why I'll keep changing it back.--Shmaltz 19:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

C"H notwithstanding, my point was based on OR. I'll get someone else to revert you. Thx. - crz crztalk 19:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

But that is still vandalism if it is not the truth, which even if someone else reverses it, I will still reveres it back to the truth. And BTW, look thru that policy again, since I'm a student at BMG I'm primary source and NOT OR.--Shmaltz 19:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

You're not a source of any kind. I have asked for a third opinion from a familiar non-jewish sysop, user:youngamerican, who has no interest or exposure to BMG. - crz crztalk 19:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't agree with that user. In any case, since you yourself say that it is called the crazy house, changing it to anything else is vandalism.--Shmaltz 19:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Wait! He has to opine first before you disagree with him! Gosh! Btw, I have sent you an email. - crz crztalk 19:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry didn't realize he hasn't taken sides yet. My mistake. And for that I will agree on his opinion about the NOR but I still think that to change it when you know that it is the truth is called vandalism. --Shmaltz 19:38, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Shmaltz, you should be aware that even if you know something to be the truth, it does not mean that it can be included in wikipedia. I am sure you are not the only beginning editor who feels frustrated by this. However, bear in mind that if anyone could edit articles based on personal witness or whim, wikipedia would be a wasteland of chaos.

P.S. By the way, I studied in BMG for many years, in fact I dormed in the facility on Clifton. Regardless of what you say it is called, wikipedia prohibits inclusion of Original Research.68.198.236.57 19:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

But as long as you don't know otherwise, or in this case that C"H is the agenda and not the truth, it is considered vandalism.--Shmaltz 19:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say this, but you are wrong. Even if I agreed with you, and said that the dormitory is indeed called "the crazy house", it would make no difference. Misplaced Pages policies are clear- primary sources must be quoted from a published source. Also, please do not attribute "agendas" to those who disagree with you. Instead, assume good faith and rest assured that the goal is only to comply with the standards of wikipedia. Again, good luck in your future edits.68.198.236.57 19:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Talkpage rights

Actually, for your information the vandalism policy specifically excludes your own personal talkpage. I quote from WP:vandalism

"Talk page vandalism-

Deleting the comments of other users from Talk pages other than your own, aside from removing internal spam, vandalism, etc. is generally considered vandalism. Removing personal attacks is often considered legitimate, and it is considered acceptable to archive an overly long Talk page to a separate file and then remove the text from the main Talk page. The above does not apply to the user's own Talk page, where this policy does not itself prohibit the removal and archival of comments at the user's discretion."

Pretty clear. LOL 68.198.236.57 08:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Yi Wiki unblock and sysopship.

There was a matter on stewards channel on IRC, all stewards agreed with this and I was put in charge of doing it. Please refer to m:User talk:Danny for more information. -Romihaitza 09:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

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I was removing it from WP:JEW because WP:JEW isn't going to make every jew article part of their project only things relevant to the project--Java7837 03:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I hear you, but it should be somewhere, at least I think so.--Shmaltz 03:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User talk:Shmaltz/Sandbox

I've nominated User talk:Shmaltz/Sandbox, a page you created, for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Shmaltz/Sandbox and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User talk:Shmaltz/Sandbox during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Shmaltz 12:39, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Shraga Hager

Hi, there is currently a discussion about the notability of Rabbi Shraga Hager your insight on this would greatly be appreciated. Have a beautiful day--יודל 13:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you--Shmaltz 14:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Recent reversion

Your recent reverts of edits () by 208.104.207.30, while warranted, should not have been labelled as vandalism. Remember to assume good faith when dealing with others. --Xanzzibar 20:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

While I agree with you that it could have not been labelled as vandalism I labelled it as such based on the fact that it was done to more than one article.--Shmaltz 04:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

response

I've responded on my talk page. However before you view it, please note that my actions were taken in response to a complaint to the Wikimedia Support Team's legal department. Please thoroughly read m:OTRS and understand what we do and how we work before responding with unfounded accusations that I am operating on the behalf of the yeshivah. In short, you do not have access to information about the complaint, and you have nothing more than speculation as to who it is from and what it is about, so please refrain from such speculation (especially when formed as an accusation against another editor.) Thank you. ⇒SWATJester 18:18, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

You need to relax, its Christmas after all

I am an experienced user, and you wont succeed in bothering me like that with passive-aggressive warnings to provoke anger. It is just to puerile to work. This is the main Spinka article and there needs to a mention of the most newsworthy event to happen in the movement perhaps ever. Lobojo (talk) 03:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Please take this to the talk page of Spinka. Thank you.--Shmaltz (talk) 03:43, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I have in no way edit warred with you. I reverted you once, yet you reverted the same materail 3 times now. I have tried to satisfy you by moving the information per Summary style guidelines. If you continue to post bogus warnings to my user page I will just delete them. Can you possibly think of a less productive way of resolving a content dispute? You need to stop flaming and spamming me with bogus warning and sit down like a mench and discuss. Lobojo (talk) 04:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

If you add it in then you are edit warring, you have to resolve it first on the talk page. Thank you. BTW, do your math before you accuse me again --Shmaltz (talk) 04:07, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:RS discussion

It will have to be carried out elsewhere, as that talk page needed to be deleted. May I suggest Misplaced Pages talk:Reliable sources? -- Avi (talk) 18:33, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Yiddish Stubs in this Misplaced Pages

Hi Shmaltz: As one of Misplaced Pages's Yiddish experts you may be interested that I recently created a {{Yiddish-stub}} but it has now been nominated for deletion, see Misplaced Pages:Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/December/20. What do you think? Sincerely,--יודל (talk) 12:08, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Idea for Talmud articles

Hi Shmaltz: I am reposting the following request from User Sh76us (talk · contribs) on my user talk page for wider notification:

I was thinking of trying to stimulate development of a series of articles on Gemara concepts and doctrines, maybe to help children or newcomers to Gemara with explanations of some fundamental concepts that recur throughout the Gemara. Some examples might be articles on Yiush, Chazakah, Ta'aninun (as in "Ta'aninun L'Yoresh"), Eidim Zomemin (forgive my awful transliterations), Migu, etc., etc. Maybe we could even create a category or subcategory for it. I created Breira in this vein. As I don't have the experience or expertise in Misplaced Pages to know what to do to best develop this idea, I figured I'd come to you for your opinions on: (1) whether it's a good idea; and (2) How to best go about implementing it. Thanks Sh76us (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Centralized discussion at: Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Judaism#Idea for Talmud articles. Thank you. IZAK (talk) 03:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Judaism Newsletter

The WikiProject Judaism Newsletter Issue I -- Sivan, 5768 Main Project Page Talk Page Judaism Portal Categories To Do Judaism AFD/RFC

What's This? Shalom aleichem sports fans, and welcome to the first of what I hope will be a monthly newsletter with the need-to-know information about our fair WikiProject. If you have any questions or comments, or would like to recommend a story for the newsletter, click here to leave a message on the Newsletter Coordinator's talk page. In the News WikiProject Good Articles is doing sweeps over all our current good articles to ensure they still meet criteria. For more information and how you can help, check out WikiProject Good Articles Sweeps. GA status for the article Jew has been put on hold pending a few minor revisions. A list of things that need to be done to return this top importance article to its proper status can be found here. Jerusalem is a Featured Article Candidate! Go forth, my people, and !vote! To Do One new Judaism-related article was created this month, the long requested Hebrew Punctuation. Thanks to Epson291 for creating it. Remember, folks, there are over forty standing requests for Judaism articles, so whenever you get the opportunity make sure to go create a few. In the right column you will see a listing of our most popular articles. All of these articles got 170,000+ page hits in the past month, and they should be on everyone's watchlist so we can keep them vandalism-free. Spread the word! No, not the Word... (well, you can do that too) I'm talking about inviting knowledgeable users to join the project. You can proclaim your undying love of WikiProject Judaism in methods mild to wild, check the project template page and member list for examples. We also now have a flashy advertisement, to use it add {{Misplaced Pages ads|ad=148}} to your userpage. Quick Stats On the date of publish, we had... 275 Project Members 6152 articles 2341 of which are Stubs 15 of which are Good 8 of which are Featured New Members Benignuman Bernstein2291 Shevashalosh Yudel Most Popular Articles By page hits. Source. Israel The Holocaust Judaism Ten Commandments Ark of the Covenant Misplaced Pages ads file info – #148

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WikiProject Judaism Newsletter

The Judaism Newsletter Issue II -- Tammuz, 5768 WikiProject Judaism (/to do) WikiProject Jewish History (/to do) WikiProject Kabbalah (/to do)

Now with 200% more Jewishness! Yes, folks, we're moving on up. This newsletter is now the newsletter for both WikiProject Judaism, WikiProject Jewish History, and WikiProject Kabbalah. In the future, I may split them, but for now I think we'll be just fine with one. As always, any questions or comments should be directed to me, L'Aquatique. A Special Dispatch Just a note, not aimed at anyone in particular. By order of the administrative cabal, it is officially not cool (and possibly dickish) to call someone an anti-semite when they aren't being anti-semitic. Anti-semitic is a very charged word, and it's important only to use it when you're absolutely sure it applies, lest it become the subject of a Godwin-esque law. Remember Hanlon's Razor: never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. In the News A new class on the importance scale has been added- C Class- which covers articles better than start but not quite to B Class yet. It is up to the WikiProjects to decide whether to adopt them or not. Currently, there has been little discussion within our Projects, so if you feel strongly either way be sure to note so at your Project. There is a proposal to reword the section on NPOV regarding religious articles. Please see Wikipedia_talk:NPOV#Religion section - Disputes between historians or scientists and religious_views to weigh in. Thanks largely to the efforts of Xyz7890, a new navbox has come into being featuring Halakha topics. See: Template talk:Halakha to join in the conversation about how it can best be improved. To Do The Simple English Misplaced Pages is beginning a project of creating and improving articles related to religion, including Judaism. At the present time, volunteers are needed to propose our most important subjects for articles to be created. The official working list is here and a more extended list is here. If you are unsure of proper topics, you might try checking our lists of top importance level articles: Judaism and Jewish History. (WikiProject Kabbalah currently doesn't have such a list) WikiProject Christianity is considering running a monthly drive wherein two or three top importance articles from English Misplaced Pages are simplified and moved over to S.E. They have extended an offer to work with us in creating a similar project for Judaism related articles. For questions or volunteer opportunities, please contact User:John Carter. WikiProject Kabbalah is in dire need of an article rating system for quality and importance. If you are familiar with that system and have some time on your hands, please create one. It could also use some infoboxes... New Members Judaism: Big maybe, Janirai, Jfdwolff, Joseph.mahal, Joshua Weiss, LisaLiel, Rcjavid, Yehudi, YY, Agent204.15, Gilad73, Joseph.mahal, Noah03 Jewish History: Noah03 Kabbalah: None. Won't you join? New Articles Habib ben Elisha Faturechi (Thanks PhatJew!) There are some 40 odd standing requests for Judaism related articles. Please make them! I would, but I'm too busy writing this. . Quick Links Judaism Portal Kabbalah Portal Articles for Deletion Request for Comment Article Requests WikiProject Judaism Stats 281 Project Members 6155 articles 2342 of which are Stubs 15 of which are Good 8 of which are Featured WikiProject Jewish History Stats 69 Project Members 1124 articles 241 of which are Stubs 10 of which are Good 10 of which are Featured WikiProject Kabbalah Stats 12 Project Members 165 articles 87 of which are Stubs 1 of which is Good 1 of which is Featured Misplaced Pages ads file info – #148

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The Judaism Newsletter

The Judaism Newsletter Issue III -- Av, 5768 WikiProject Judaism (/to do) WikiProject Jewish History (/to do) WikiProject Kabbalah (/to do)

"Censorship" of names of G-d There is an interesting discussion currently taking place regarding whether or not it is acceptable to censor (i.e. G-d, HaShem->YodHey) names of G-d in articles to protect Jews who may be reading or editing the article. You can weigh in here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism#Yahweh. Article Cleanup Lists User:B. Wolterding has generously offered us use of his bot to generate lists that show which articles of ours are tagged for cleanup. You can read more about this service here: User:B._Wolterding/Cleanup_listings and if you would like to take him up on his offer, contact him on his talk page. In the News There is a collaboration drive to get Holocaust in Lithuania to good article status. For information about how you can help, see the talk page or contact User:Piotrus. WikiProject Kabbalah's only Featured and Good articles have been removed from the WikiProject, on the grounds that neither article (Diane Keaton and David Beckham, respectively) actually mention the subject's affiliation with Kabbalah. If you have sourced information linking either of these people to Kabbalah, please add it so the articles can be returned to the WikiProject. After a rather heated discussion, there are now two barnstars for use by the Jewish WikiProjects, {{The Jewish Barnstar}} and {{The New Jewish Barnstar}}, and you can choose which one you would like to use.. Remember: barnstars are for rewarding users who are doing good work on the project or on Judaism, Jewish History, or Kabbalah articles, and anyone can give anyone else a barnstar. If you see a user who you thinks deserves a thank you, give them a barnstar! To Do/Help Requests If you have some spare time on your hands, we could use an article about a Kabbalah scholar named Moshe Idel. According to HG there are quite a few sources easily available, you can contact him if you have questions. Be sure to nominate it for DYK if the finished article is eligible. The folks at Shimon Peres need some assistance from someone familiar with both the Hebrew calendar and language to help them figure out the subject's birthday. If you can help, please see Talk:Shimon_Peres#Birthday. New Members Judaism: Arigont, Avi, CheskiChips, Pini00001, Shirulashem, TaliaNadel, Tyciol, yehoshuafriedla Jewish History: 5768altalena, AniMate, User:Yosef.garibaldi.gmail, Pinnecco, Shirulashem, Tyciol Kabbalah: Shuliavrumi New Articles Bezalel Rudinsky (thanks Shirulashem!}, Jewish tartan (thanks Briangotts!), Hebrew spelling (thanks Epson291) We get a lot of articles that are being created and not announced! By announcing new articles, you attract attention to them, and the more people looking and editing the better they will get. If you would like your new article to appear in the newsletter, add it here for Judaism and Kabbalah and here for Jewish History. There are some 40 odd standing requests for Judaism related articles. Please make them! I would, but I'm too busy writing this. . Quick Links Judaism Portal Kabbalah Portal Israel Portal Articles for Deletion Request for Comment Article Requests WikiProject Judaism Stats 291 Project Members 6248 articles 2356 of which are Stubs 18 of which are Good 6 of which are Featured WikiProject Jewish History Stats 77 Project Members 1141 articles 244 of which are Stubs 10 of which are Good 10 of which are Featured WikiProject Kabbalah Stats 13 Project Members 165 articles 87 of which are Stubs 0 of which are Good 0 of which are Featured Misplaced Pages ads file info – #148

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Your AN3 request

You should notify other editors when you raise discussion of their actions. No worries this time, but it is best practice. It is also generally not nice to describe other editor's contributions as vandalism except in accordance with Misplaced Pages:Vandalism. I have not investigated this matter in depth, but have you considered raising a discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Judaism? - 2/0 (cont.) 21:25, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Look again at WP:VAN, Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Misplaced Pages. it is for that reason that I felt I have to mention the fact of his contribs. His account is a single purpose account being that he belongs to one side of that fight.--Shmaltz (talk) 03:17, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Bobov (Hasidic dynasty)

Please discuss your differences with User:Beis Din at Talk:Bobov (Hasidic dynasty). Continued edit-warring may result in the article being protected or in your being blocked from editing. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 20:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

RE: December 2009

Thank you for your advice in regards to Misplaced Pages and advertising a product or service. The reason that this post was made was due to the fact that Rubberecycle also has a link under the 'see also' section within the same page. This is a commercial company offering a product that would seem to be using Misplaced Pages, how ever poorly they are, for nothing more then self promotion. I know that you can not check every link of every post and that Misplaced Pages uses a tight community of moderators to make sure that this and other general guidelines are being followed.

The company that I had referenced is a local company in my home town, but also the only company using American waste tires and recycling them (hence the link posted under tire recycling) using local workers and not outsourcing the work like to many other manufacturing jobs have done within this current global economy. Within Misplaced Pages I see so many companies listed from local restaurant chains that bear little interest to those outside of the community that that are located in to large big box stores that everyone around the world knows in some respect. While I respect your decision to remove the link to their page, I believe that company that has been doing business internationally for several years is deserving of a mention someplace within the pages of Misplaced Pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JamieRex (talk • contribs) 04:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Removal of Edah HaChareidis Letter in the Satmar page

Would you please explain why you call this "Vandalism"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.117.235.68 (talk) 20:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Look at everything that was added, I did not remove it because of the letter, but because of all the other stuff that was added.--Shmaltz (talk) 21:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

BTW, what type of copyright does that letter have?--Shmaltz (talk) 21:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, you are right, it was a FireFox extension, called WoT, that caused that problem. and the license problem was also my mistype. Hope it's good now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Correctguru (talk • contribs) 21:38, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

So the blatt now officially engages in using the Internet against the Zalies? Bnei Yoel?--Shmaltz (talk) 21:44, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Let's assume it's true, this is not my point of view, this document is an actual Letter written by the Edah Hachareidis and it is very appropriate to put it there, so please reverse it. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Correctguru (talk • contribs) 22:05, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Assume????

Non-authoritative answer: derblatt.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail1.derblatt.com derblatt.com MX preference = 20, mail exchanger = mailstore1.secureserver.net

derblatt.com MX preference = 0, mail exchanger = mail.derblatt.com > set type=A > mail1.derblatt.com Server: vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net Address: 4.2.2.2

Non-authoritative answer: Name: mail1.derblatt.com Address: 38.117.235.68

--Shmaltz (talk) 22:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi good morning Shmaltz, you cooked a shmaltzige kashe here... Why do you conclude that when someone at der blatt complains about the removal of my letter, that I'm working for them?Correctguru (talk) 14:42, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Reverts on Der Blatt

Can you please explain the POV that prompted you to revert this here?--Shmaltz (talk) 05:02, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

A letter sent to a newspaper expressing an opinion is a POV statement, as is a non-editorial response from "someone" at the newspaper's office. If you wish to ascribe encyclopedic significance to the personal statements of those two anonymous individuals, you will need to support it by some means other than referencing user talk pages. --Futhark|Talk 09:15, 11 February 2010 (UTC)