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Horror

This really isn't a horror movie... at all. It's a drama. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.164.65.177 (talk) 21:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed and removed from that project. Also removed comment pointing to illegal copies of the film. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 05:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Looking more, some reviewers do consider it a horror film, so readding the horror project tag. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

To Do

More possible reviews -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

DVD Cover

Is that really the DVD cover from Criterion? Their website shows a different one. Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it is. All retailers I checked are showing the black cover rather than the white one. The one on Criterion may be a special on if you buy direct from them or an earlier version that was changed later. Will be able to confirm one way or another in a few days as my copy is finally on its way to me :-D -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 14:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

If that's the case then let it be for now I suppose! I hope Criterion chooses the other one, but..who knows. that's just one gnarly looking dog. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

My DVD just arrived and it is the white cover rather than the black one. Updating now :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 22:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah! You beat me to it. I just saw the White cover in a store yesterday. Good job! Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

• Article now promoted. Congrats! - Mgm| 09:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

black dog trainer???

I have a serious question about the lead paragraph, it reads: The film depicts the struggle of a black dog trainer named Keys (Paul Winfield) trying to retrain a "white dog". I think the article is trying to say that the dog trainer is black, not that the dog trainer trains black dogs, right? As it is written, it is hard to tell if the dog trainer trains "black dogs" or is a black trainer who trains dogs. This is further complicated, when you read the second half of the sentence wherein it talks about a "white dog." If the movie is set in America, you might want to consider "African American" or is there a particular reason (eg derived from the movie/book) that distinguishes Keys as a "black dog trainer?" Again, I think the article intends to say that the trainer is black, not that he trains black dogs.---I'm Spartacus! 20:54, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Almost all sources use the phrase "black dog trainer" or "dog trainer who is black". It is one of the key points of the article. African American wouldn't be appropriate as it is, technically inaccurate and not used within the film nor any references. I have tried to reword it to better clarify that he is a black man who trains dogs. Technically, the dog is both a white dog, and a "white dog" (which is what those dogs were often called). -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 22:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I kind of guessed that "African American" wasn't appropriate, it has become so ingrained in American culture that I figured there was an explicit reason not to use it here. Part of me wondered if a "white dog" is a dog trained to attack blacks, would a black dog be a dog trained to attack whites? But I was pretty sure that wasn't what was being said. Thanks---I'm Spartacus! 22:43, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

No prob (and good question on whether they would be called black dogs, though maybe not since its also a trucking term). Would be curious to read more historical accounts from that time from both sides. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 23:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

End of the film - reason for the dog's attack

I corrected the end of the plot. As it was before, it makes no sense. Why should the dog turn generally against white people all of a sudden? In the movie it is said that a "white dog" can be achived by letting a black abuse/mistreat a young dog. That makes sense IMO, the dog (and any other animal, even humans) should develop a fear of the abuser and correlate that fear by its attributes (here: the skin color). But during the re-education no abuse by a white person takes place. Moreover, Julie is white, too. As I can tell, the dog sees Carruther and he bears a resemblance to its former owner, the white racist. This lets the dog attack Carruther. Any other opinions? ---- 84.151.152.144 (talk) 00:55, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I have undone your "correction", this is purely your personal opinion while multiple reliable sources clearly note that the film shows the dog's thinking was reversed. In the source novel, this was done deliberately, while in the film, it was a tragic result. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... I haven't seen the film or read the book, but Romain Gary (2004), White dog, University of Chicago Press, p. 278, ISBN 9780226284309 says, "... I had a long talk with Keys. He didn't train that poor dog to attack whites. He just trained him to attack any strangers who entered the house...." -- Boracay Bill (talk) 02:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Multiple reliable sources state that the training was deliberate. However, in the end, this is more about the film than the book. Multiple reliable sources also note the dog changed from attacking blacks to attacking whites. And considering the dog attacked Gary himself (obviously not a stranger) in the novel, I suspect that quote needs some more context. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 03:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

First: Please name some of those "multiple reliable sources" you mentioned. I found none so far. Moreover, and IMO very much proving my point, when the dog changed into attacking whites, why does he not attack Julie in the first place? Julie was not involved in the dog's re-training, he only saw Keys. After being released by Keys, Julie comes close and pets the dog, and he enjoys it. THEN the dog sees Carruther and gets angry. Your point does not make sense, sorry. ---- 84.151.132.177 (talk) 04:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Read the article. The sources are there. Every bit of the article is sourced. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 13:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I watched parts of the movie now again and think we both went wrong. The explanation seems to be in the movie itself. Watch from minute 47, when Keys explains Julie that noone ever succeeded in de-training a White Dog. Keys: "Tampering with the dog's twisted mind just boomerangs." Julie: "Noneone." Keys: "Homicidal maniac. He could turn on... anybody." Julie: "Even me?" Keys nods. So I think this is what happened - the dog got finally mad. What you think? ---- 84.151.132.177 (talk) 05:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Except, as you noted, he didn't attack her. But in essence, that is the boomerang...or it could be, he was now attacking anyone, white/black who wasn't those two.-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 13:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Romain Gary - correction

Romain Gary died in 1980, not 1981. By the way, removed reference to his wife (Jean Seberg's) "mysterious death" from article. The cause of death was determined by the French authorities, and is not relevant to this article in any case.--Bagration1944 (talk) 18:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

It is relevant to the production of the film and has been restored. It is cited with reliable sources. At the time it occurred, it was mysterious circumstances.-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:06, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I accept that her death may be relevant to this article. However, I don't think that the term "mysterious death" should be used. The French Authorities, and Numerous reliable sources, such as the NY Times and the LA Times term her death as a suicide. By the way, it is an excellent article.--Bagration1944 (talk) 19:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

According to the LA Times, Sept. 9, 1979, French authorities were quoted as saying that she apparently committed suicide. This link is to a LA Times blog containing copies of the old articles. This would indicate that the cause of death was known in 1979. Again, I am sorry for changing the article without discussing the matter with you first, but I hope you accept that I was acting in good faith, and with more reason than a mere hunch. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2009/03/the-jean-seberg.html --Bagration1944 (talk) 20:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagration1944 (talk • contribs)

An editor is obligated

... to look at the actual edits before reverting them.

I do not automatically dismiss changes made to any of the dozen pages I moderate.

Varlaam (talk) 03:54, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I did look at the edits, thank you, and did not find those changes appropriate. I do not see any "grammatical corrections" as you claim in your revert summary, but the addition of inappropriate WP:OR and a badly written expansion of the plot to add in a single scene. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 03:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Poorly written. Are you a speaker of English? You failed to notice the plural subject with the singular verb?

I am a professional technical writer.

In addition, I have 100 plot summaries at the IMDb. I have 200 reviews at the IMDb. Policies I established at the IMDb in 1999 and 2000 are still in place a decade later.

What are your qualifications?

Varlaam (talk) 04:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I am a speaker of English, thanks, as were the multiple people who have reviewed this article and copy edited it. Had you made only the grammatical error, that would have been fine, however you hide it among an addition of other content. I have now fixed that extremely minor error. You also appear to have a long history of incivility, which you are demonstrating here. This is not IMDB. If you'd like to write a summary for this film there, go ahead. Misplaced Pages has actual standards here, unlike IMDB. I'd also like to remind you of WP:CIVIL and WP:OWN, the latter of which you should already be well acquainted with per your talk page. You are no more qualified than anyone else here, and if your idea of a "plot summary" is to included your own synthesis and side commentary, they have no place here. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:32, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Varlaam, I've run into this issue before. You do not "moderate" pages. That implies ownership, which I've told you over and over again isn't how Misplaced Pages operates. And there is no reason to attack other users. We are all equal here no matter what our background is. I wish you would stop attacking editors and instead focus on the article. Questioning someone's ability to speak English is attacking them as implying that they are not qualified to edit this article. Please stop. --User:Woohookitty 05:03, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Annual review

This article was promoted as a Good Article a year ago this month. I'd like to conduct an annual review of changes made in this time span. The changes are reflected in this diff. There are no major changes, so I only have a few small thoughts:

• De-link drama in the lead sentence; I don't think drama film is much more helpful since it is not that useful in context of this article.
• The "writer" field should exclude "and" and use <br /> instead.
• The "released" field should de-link Cinema of France and Cinema of the United States per WP:EGG. Maybe try to implement these links in the article body somewhere?
• "Jaws" links to Jaws (film series). Any reason why it cannot just link to Jaws (film)? This film came out after the first and second Jaws films.
• In "Distribution", the word "domestic" is used. Since this is the English-language Misplaced Pages, I think it is best to clarify that the discussed release was for the United States.

Thoughts? Erik (talk) 17:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea :-) Made the suggested changes. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 18:48, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I am hoping to find a way to automate the process so we can just get a heads-up from a bot rather than manually checking when to do annual reviews. Erik (talk) 18:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

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