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March 2010
Welcome to Misplaced Pages. The recent edit that you made to the page Kiev has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Please use the sandbox for testing any edits; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing for further information. Thank you. Uncle Dick (talk) 17:26, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did with this edit to the page Kiev. Such edits constitute vandalism and are reverted. Please do not continue to make unconstructive edits to pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Uncle Dick (talk) 17:27, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Ukrainian Internet Exchange
I have nominated Ukrainian Internet Exchange, an article which you have worked on, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not").
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Talkback
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Removal of Orphan tag
Welcome to Misplaced Pages. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Ukrainian Internet Exchange. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. In this edit you removed an "Orphan" tag, but the article is still linked from only ONE other article. DES 16:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Kyiv / Kiev
@Ev. I have also noticed your compaign to change Kyiv to Kiev everywhere in english Misplaced Pages. Why are you doing this? Kiev is an archaic spelling of Kyiv which is used now because of long forceful domination of USSR( and thereby Russian language) in Ukraine, which caused many English-speakers to spell Kyiv incorrectly. It seems like you might be a Russian who does this from some personal dislike to everything Ukrainian, and as such ,it is absolutely wrong and dishonorable. Your are causing further continuation of misspelling Kyiv in English speaking Misplaced Pages, and this is wrong. Concerning all of your arguments, stated above, I totally disagree with your logic. When you change Kyiv to Kiev everywhere, where new articles are written, you bring additional disambiguation. As you see, there is a REDIRECT page from Kyiv to Kiev, so people who click on Kyiv will anyway reach Kiev article, so why changing all of the new article with Kyiv? Let them be, the redirecting from Kyiv to Kiev exists for the sake of getting everyone to the same page, but it's wrong to change all new articles containing Kyiv just because, quating you: My edits, however, do not change a controversial name to another; they change a sometimes obscure name to the one "the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize", and they provide to our readership the benefits of internal consistency within a reference work. If you believe that there should be Kiev spelling in English, write your point of view in Kyiv/talk page and don't change new Kyiv-entry-containing articles. Rkononenko (talk) 19:55, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Rkononenko. My edits' only intention is to bring our articles into compliance with the content policies of the English-language Misplaced Pages (in this case, mainly Misplaced Pages:Article titles & Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (geographic names), which indicate that all articles mentioning the Ukrainian capital should use the same form used as title in the article on the city itself - i.e. Kiev). — If you have any doubts regarding these policies, I will be happy to clarify them.
- In any case, far from being archaic, the form Kiev continues to be the one commonly used in English-language publications, and thus the one our articles should use (in accordance to the above mentioned policies). See the last proposal to use the form Kyiv. — If, at some point in the future, the form Kyiv replaces the form Kiev as the one the greatest number of English-speakers would most easily recognize, our articles will reflect that shift in usage. Not before. — But the proper place to discuss this issue is at Talk:Kiev/naming. - Best regards, Ev (talk) 20:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
April 2010
Re: Kharkiv - please be aware that many English readers are only familiar with the name Kharkov, and it should be clear to them when they search that they have arrived on the correct page. Please also be aware of the three-revert rule WP:3RR, and obtain a consensus on the talk page before reverting. Many thanks, Knepflerle (talk)
- I am well aware of our article titling policies, I had quite a lot to do with writing them!
- Have a look at WP:NCGN#General guidelines, clause 2:
- The lead: The title can be followed in the first line by a list of alternative names in parentheses:...
- Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted and should be listed in alphabetic order of their respective languages
- For this reason we include Kharkov in the lead of the Kharkiv article.
- As for when you said "should use the same form used as title in the article on the city itself": this is precisely why we use the spelling Kiev in the Kharkov article. Kiev is still the most common spelling used in English, and used as the title of that article (Kiev).
- You also wrote "it only matters what is the correct way of writing it in standard British/American/Candadian/Astralian English now"; unlike many languages there is no official body deciding what is and isn't "correct" English. Therefore, we follow what English people actually use. Even today, books are still published in English using Kharkov (see here); Kharkiv is used more often, which is why it is the title of the page, but we still mention Kharkov to help our readers.
- And please stop reverting the article text; 3RR is not a guideline, but a hard-and-fast rule, and you will end up being blocked for violating it if you continue. It's not worth it - discuss first, and when we all agree then we can change the text. There's no rush.
Knepflerle (talk) 13:12, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Your recent edits
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Kharkiv
I've protected this article for one week due to edit-warring. Please note that if the edit-warring continues after the protection expires you are likely to be blocked. I suggest that you take the time to explore Misplaced Pages's naming policies; names that are in common use in English should be included on the English-language wikipedia, regardless of whether they are the "correct" spellings. There is no place on Misplaced Pages for nationalist POV-pushing. Karanacs (talk) 14:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)