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The following essay was placed in the article Zaza. I have moved it here as more appropriate. Other than fixing bad paragraph formatting it is verbatim. If there are citations for this, the bulk of it might make a very useful addition to the article. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:18, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Zaza people are mainly divided into two major groups because of their distinction in belife system. There are northern Zaza people that call them selves Kurmanci but are not related with the kurmanji of the kurds. Te old name that they used to use was Dimilche for their language which nowadays only some of the old people remember. They speak so-be language which means go and come, this name is given mainly to distunguish hare-were of kurdish kurmanji which also means go and come, but is not used to name the language among the native speakers.The people recently started to call them selves as people of Dersim, and their language as Dersim Language. There are aproximatly 1,500 to 2,000 Dersimic people in the world, mainly in big cities of Turkey, Istanbul, Izmir, Ankara and Adana and also in Europe mainly in Germany. There are other branches in Hinis and Varto, geographically apart from main Dersim land. Some also live in Sivas. Their belives are strongly tied with Alewi sect of islam recently, taking power from opposing Sunni islam and calling the Sunnis as Dogs as a cursing word. Also Calling the Kurmanji Kurds as Khurs as another cursing word. The tie with being alewi is mainly strenghtened by the war campaign of Yavuz Sultan Selim,the Ottoman King to Safevids. He might have killed a sizeable number of Alewis including the Dersimic Alewis during his Campaign.

Their religion is very much blended with islam, but many do not know much about religion, but will say that they are muslims when asked. The ones living in northern part of the region claosed to Erzincan are more islamic and try to obey 5 pillars of islam more than the ones living in Tunceli Province. Bolaban Tribe which opposed Russian Army during the time around WW-I are assimilated probably up to a scale that they can not speak the language any more. In the Belief system honesty, self reliablity and hard working is couraged. There are Cem`s instead of islamic prayers in Dersimic Religion, which old Dervishes concantrate some rituals including advices with Saz a kind of musical instrument and Licking a piece of burning wood as Keramet, Miracle to influence the people around. These Cem`s are mainly held near by Jare`s which means places to visit, is either a House of a Dervish or a Tomb or a Stone, Spring or a tree or a special village. People do sleep outside during these Deme`s.

The Religious ranking is Rayver`s Pir`s Bava`s and Ana`s the last two meaning Father and Mother. Kuresi is a the name of the religious tribe where Pir`s and Rayver`s are from. Duzun Bava, Munzir bava are local noble men died centuries ago. Sacrifising animal ceremonies are important. without knowing to be sin They do sacrifize animals nearby Tombs and Jare`s. Because of this Suni people do not eat the animals they sacrifize. In recent years the people, and the young generation became Leftist political view and establised or enrolled in many terrorist activities against the central government which pressed political and national identities. PKK, TKPML, DHKPC are some of the extremist left groups terrorizing the region taking the advantage of its mountaines landscape and are fed by the suburban populations in bigger cities.

The people are massacered after an uprising in 1938 which made the Dersimic Sociaty to change for ever, because of the death of high ranked people, mainly religios and political leaders, rich and educated. Some were deported from the area until 1945`s and send to different places but turned back soon.

Cem Evleri, means gathering Houses play a major role in modernization of Alewi religion. They are fractionized by different political groups and has different rituals.Since being so called Alewi is the cultural Identity of most Dersimic people there are strong ties with non Aryanic Turkish Alewis of Sivas, Corum, Yozgat and also strong ties between the Kurmanji Kurds taht are alewi and living around the area of Malatya, Maras, Bingol, Erzurum, Tokat, Amasya.

Tribes are still distinguishible in the area and even in the cities and people live a closed community life than an publicly open society. Marriages are among themselves and the language is still used by the people aging up to 35 or more as a communication language. Historical events are showing that theories of on these people strongly suggest that they are the decendents of Assasins of Iran-Alamut. Deylamites or the historic Ziyari Governmet has strong ties with the people. They most probably immigrated to the area from Gilan or Rest during the Mongol and Ilkhanite invasion.

Unlike the Northern Zaza`s, southren Zaza people are stricly sunni sect of Muslim but interestingly they share the same alnguage at almost 80% with a different accent. They are spread to the areas around Siverek, Palu, Genc, Bingol, Cermik, Lice, Diyarbakir and are the same people that statted the uprising of Seyh Said during 1920`s. They do involve in Kurdish Uprising against the central govenment accept the Bucak tribe in Siverek. But they are suspicious against PKK which is very much Communist orienated and do not promote relgion and religious freedom at all. --141.150.16.228 01:47, 12 December 2005 (UTC)Torne Galfirat--141.150.16.228 01:47, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi,you wrote a good essay; however, you made a word mistake Northern Zazaki dialect is "Kurmanjki" not "Kurmanci" You can check it on Ethnologue. http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=kiu

That appears to be how it is spelled in the article, except in one place where it is a direct quotation of a title. I suspect that there are probably several equally or comparably acceptable spellings. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:31, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

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