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| In the aftermath section it said the remaining outlaws were "drove out of the territory" by the Behan posse. This is not at all true. Ike Clanton remained in the territory until his death in 1887, Pony Diehl remained in the territory until his death a few months after the ride. Johnny Ringo was killed by Doc holliday or killed himself in Arizona territory at Turkey Creek and there is no record of Hank Swilling's death. Basically the Earps came to Arizona, pissed off the locals with their beatings and gun laws and then were attacked by the locals and ran away after Wyatt Earp failed to catch the |
In the aftermath section it said the remaining outlaws were "drove out of the territory" by the Behan posse. This is not at all true. Ike Clanton remained in the territory until his death in 1887, Pony Diehl remained in the territory until his death a few months after the ride. Johnny Ringo was killed by Doc holliday or killed himself in Arizona territory at Turkey Creek and there is no record of Hank Swilling's death. Basically the Earps came to Arizona, pissed off the locals with their beatings and gun laws and then were attacked by the locals and ran away after Wyatt Earp failed to catch the cowboys and got his brothers either shot or killed.--] (]) 01:03, 25 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
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This article could use some sourcing. I just added the first footnote, and that was on a minor point.--Lastexit 14:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
The information on Ringo's death contradicts the same topic in his page. Ours18 11:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- You noticed. It does indeed, and the Ringo article is much more historical. The reason is that the info HERE was added by somebody who believes the stuff about Ringo in "I Married Wyatt Earp", a good part of which is now known to have been completely fictionalized by Glen Boyer from a nonexistant Sadie Earp manuscript (only one is known as authentic and it omits this material), and is therefore generally not a reliable historical source (again, this includes most of the Ringo material). Sadie did not in general dwell on Wyatt's shoot-em-up exploits, and she never claimed the Earps or Holliday killed Ringo. It needs fixing when I get around to it. Meanwhile, I suggest anybody with a copy of "I Married Wyatt Earp" move it to the dime-novel western fiction part of their bookshelves, right alongside the Louis L'Amour. SBHarris 17:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- At the worst, this should be converted to an account of a great American folk tale. Wow, great stuff! At best, someone should indicated on this talk page if that intention to fix has born any fruit, and it would be very good to have two articles or one that indicates what is folklore and what verifiable. And, the expression
- "Cowboys"
- (quotes are from the article, not mine) needs some explanation -- Do i recall that the Clantons functioned as an outlaw gang called "the Cowboys"? Is that gang worth an article? Hmm, i did just find
- The Clantons and their ranch hands and associates were known as the "Cow-boys",...
- in the last 'graph of Ike Clanton#Early life.
- Can anyone get back up to speed on this quickly, as opposed to someone having to sit down and start from scratch as i would have to?
--Jerzy•t 04:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
The Marcus account deviates from Fred Dodge (at the time of the Tombstone activities an uncover agent of Wells Fargo pretending to be a gambler) in his autobiographical UNDERCOVER FOR WELLS FARGO: THE UNVARNISHED RECOLLECTIONS OF FRED DOGE, edited by Carolyn Lake.1969, Houghton Mifflin Co. Pony Deal, a friend of Ringo's found the body. Dodge,who admittedly did chum around with the Earps and was in some gunplay with them as an ally, also knows for a fact that Frank Leslie was nowhere near Ringo during the time of his shooting.It is likely that Johnny-behind-the-deuce killed Ringo and then Pony Deal, Ringo's old pal, killed Johnny.This is explicitly said by Dodge in his letter of Sept. 15, 1929 to Stuart N. Lake (Pp. 238-9 in the above cited book. Anson Shupe, Dept. of Sociology, Ind-Purdue Univesity, Fort Wayne, IN email: Shupe@IPFW.edu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.86.76.114 (talk) 22:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Ridiculous statements
In the aftermath section it said the remaining outlaws were "drove out of the territory" by the Behan posse. This is not at all true. Ike Clanton remained in the territory until his death in 1887, Pony Diehl remained in the territory until his death a few months after the ride. Johnny Ringo was killed by Doc holliday or killed himself in Arizona territory at Turkey Creek and there is no record of Hank Swilling's death. Basically the Earps came to Arizona, pissed off the locals with their beatings and gun laws and then were attacked by the locals and ran away after Wyatt Earp failed to catch the cowboys and got his brothers either shot or killed.--Az81964444 (talk) 01:03, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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