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I've made my usual tweaks, Giano, and— not that I haven't read the posts above— have added an idea about the paired stairs that I got from Nicholas Cooper.--] (]) 22:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC) | I've made my usual tweaks, Giano, and— not that I haven't read the posts above— have added an idea about the paired stairs that I got from Nicholas Cooper.--] (]) 22:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Thanks for that, it needed a good copy-edit. The paired stairs are very interesting (those of a lavatorial pursuasion above wait with bated breath, there's a bit for you in a moment) and I have a theory - the stairs nearest to the Hall and Great Chamber are wider and more decorated than those at the other end of the house, we know that they were used for formal processions of food going to the Great Chamber; is this an early example of a designated great and back stairs - I suppose not, Knole has its Great Staircase, but Hardwick sems to have only one to the principal floors, numerous others, but only one with a clear intent of going from top to bottom. Perhaps I'm wrong, but our friend Monsieur Girouard makes a great thing of backstairs saying in the late 17th century section (page138) "''the revolutionarry invention of backstairs''" and "''the gentry walkiing up the stairs no longer met their last night's faeces coming down them''" Well it looks to me as though they had not had to do that for a hundred years or more, because the stairs nearest the kitchen at Montacute, though symerical with, are definitly inferior to the ones at the other end of the house. However, I don't have a reference to say this. <small><span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 07:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC) |
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Prisssy
Giano, Jimbo has spoken to the efect that he does not like you (no crocodile tears pls) and alot of new and want-to-be admins are thus waiting in the grass to bait and block you. I'm sure you know this already, I'm just saying watch out for youself. The vulgarity essay is beyond funny, but this could become law given the current climate - the civility police are using the commons disaster to push their agenda, and this could be disasterous for anybody who does not care to cloak their meaning behind a facade of please and thanks. You are doing very well standing for the content people in the trenches, but to say, they are out to get you, but you will be defended. Ceoil (talk) 23:12, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- (wakes up bleary-eyed from content production) huh? I was about to ask where the discussion was but never mind I can go find. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sadly, I think what you say is true Ceoil. "With all due respect", of course. Mealy-mouthed words from third-rate intellects. Malleus Fatuorum 00:32, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Malleus when will you learn to indent properly?? I read...oh god reading reams of banter back and forth always reminds me of the Goodies episode ("Oh no! The Marcel Marceaus are going to mime all 4 hours of the Murder on the Orient Express! Aaaargh!) Casliber (talk ·' contribs) 00:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I will put your indiscretion down to your "bleary eyes" Casliber. I was replying to Ceoil, therefore my indention was perfectly correct. Your "correction" makes it seem like I was replying to you, which I was not. With all due respect, please do not take it upon yourself to decide what I did or did not intend to do, or make judgements on my competence to say exactly what I meant to say. ;-) Malleus Fatuorum 00:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
It will all turn out well anyway, since Giacomo enjoys a position of particular reverence here with good reason. Not everyone realises that he is descended from another famous Italian, Seneca the Younger, who first stated the basis of our civility policy: Errare humanum est, sed perseverare diabolicum. We forgive people's mistakes until they insist on repeating them. Giano's civility essay should be required reading for all wannabe admins. Agree with it or not (Jimbo doesn't), it certainly represents a perspective shared by many editors, and the sooner folks realise a "one-size-fits-all" civility policy cannot possibly accommodate the rich variety of humanity present, the better. --RexxS (talk) 01:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- My preference has always been for a separate American wikipedia, where the high school kids can have free rein with their pop culture rubbish, and a proper English wikipedia, run by rational adults. Just a dream, I know. Malleus Fatuorum 01:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Those rustic simpletons from the New World, always tracking shit in the path of the civilized people of Britain and its continental cohorts... Surely there ought to be some way to keep the lower classes from mucking things up? Nathan 03:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Now now Nathan, no toilet words here...:) Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- When was the New World added to the list of toilet words...John Vandenberg 06:11, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- When the Crown saw fit to dump the Empire's misfits in lands far across the sea; across several seas, in the mates' case ;) Cheers guys, Jack Merridew 06:32, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that the toilet word was 'rustic'. Hopefully, Giano will be able to confirm the style for us. --RexxS (talk) 08:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for the little hut, I will lock myself in it, if the going gets rough. If it happens it happens, and just for the record Rex, it's a lavatory (bog, thunderbox, loo or even a pissoir) - only the twee and smug "go to the toilet" and it is never, repeat never, a "bathroom" or a "restroom" - they are from completely different purposes and to confuse the two is uncivilised. A before anyone mentions "bidets" they are purely for the handwashing of socks and boxers in hotel bathrooms and for nothing else. Giacomo 09:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Quite right, Giano. Kittybrewster ☎ 09:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for the little hut, I will lock myself in it, if the going gets rough. If it happens it happens, and just for the record Rex, it's a lavatory (bog, thunderbox, loo or even a pissoir) - only the twee and smug "go to the toilet" and it is never, repeat never, a "bathroom" or a "restroom" - they are from completely different purposes and to confuse the two is uncivilised. A before anyone mentions "bidets" they are purely for the handwashing of socks and boxers in hotel bathrooms and for nothing else. Giacomo 09:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that the toilet word was 'rustic'. Hopefully, Giano will be able to confirm the style for us. --RexxS (talk) 08:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- When the Crown saw fit to dump the Empire's misfits in lands far across the sea; across several seas, in the mates' case ;) Cheers guys, Jack Merridew 06:32, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Those rustic simpletons from the New World, always tracking shit in the path of the civilized people of Britain and its continental cohorts... Surely there ought to be some way to keep the lower classes from mucking things up? Nathan 03:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, you snobs. The little hut is actually a bronze age comfort zone. Bishonen | talk 12:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC).
- Indded we are, and indeed it is, and it's probably equipped with "double-ply-extra-strength-soft-luxurient-pink-toilet-tissue." However, do the people who buy such "paper" (and there must be millions) ever consider the personal problems they are admitting to by the need to acquire such a durable product? Giacomo 19:44, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well I much prefer.....(long pause)...oh god I can't go round discussing my toilet paper preferences on a public forum...(runs and hides behind own Victorian values) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- But are Victorian values big enough to hide behind? Take my advice and hide behind the Victorian dunny. --RexxS (talk) 22:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I am at a loss to add anything witty apart from the somewhat off-topic Australian witticism "Hope yer chooks turn into emus and kick yer dunny down" (chuckle) Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Got yer back, G. cheers… Jack Merridew 09:53, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I am at a loss to add anything witty apart from the somewhat off-topic Australian witticism "Hope yer chooks turn into emus and kick yer dunny down" (chuckle) Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- But are Victorian values big enough to hide behind? Take my advice and hide behind the Victorian dunny. --RexxS (talk) 22:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well I much prefer.....(long pause)...oh god I can't go round discussing my toilet paper preferences on a public forum...(runs and hides behind own Victorian values) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Montacute House
I've made my usual tweaks, Giano, and— not that I haven't read the posts above— have added an idea about the paired stairs that I got from Nicholas Cooper.--Wetman (talk) 22:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, it needed a good copy-edit. The paired stairs are very interesting (those of a lavatorial pursuasion above wait with bated breath, there's a bit for you in a moment) and I have a theory - the stairs nearest to the Hall and Great Chamber are wider and more decorated than those at the other end of the house, we know that they were used for formal processions of food going to the Great Chamber; is this an early example of a designated great and back stairs - I suppose not, Knole has its Great Staircase, but Hardwick sems to have only one to the principal floors, numerous others, but only one with a clear intent of going from top to bottom. Perhaps I'm wrong, but our friend Monsieur Girouard makes a great thing of backstairs saying in the late 17th century section (page138) "the revolutionarry invention of backstairs" and "the gentry walkiing up the stairs no longer met their last night's faeces coming down them" Well it looks to me as though they had not had to do that for a hundred years or more, because the stairs nearest the kitchen at Montacute, though symerical with, are definitly inferior to the ones at the other end of the house. However, I don't have a reference to say this. Giacomo 07:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)