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This article was nominated for deletion on June 1, 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

The book appaers notable, but this article is written like a blurb. DES 15:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I guess that's why I put a stub tag on it. Or do you mean something else by "blurb"? --Fisherjs 19:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

References

This article does not have a References section. When you use embedded citations, you need to also put a full citation in a References section. --SueHay 18:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC) The forward is unfairly composed, using an obscure and politically biased reference to something named "Corporate Libertarians" that is an inaccurate, inappropriate and misleading way to describe Transnational Socialists, Corporatism (Nazism) or Corporate Socialists ( Neo-Nazi, Globalist etc) whom are being identified here. Libertarians did not support so-called 'free trade' merger-consolidation nor their monopolist and imperialistic agendas. "Neo-Con" Tory and Whig Cabalists, posing as US Republicans did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Urlborg (talk • contribs) 07:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Criticism

This section needs revision. In June 2007, an article from USA Today 2005 was cited supporting the claim that violent crime was on the decline. However, since the USA Today article was published, and well before it was used as a citation, there have been double digit increases in violent crime in the US. Another example of what appears to be OR is the statements and conclusions about North Korea. Did the author cite North Korea as a model, if not, this is editorial POV and should be struck.Cronos1 22:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

• From the FBI, Uniform Crime Reports as prepared by the National Archive of Criminal Justice Data. In 1960 there were 288,460 violent crimes. In 2006 there were 1,417,745. But in 1993 there were 1,926,020 violent crimes. People can say crime rates are going up or down dependings on the starting point. Like every book there will be good and bad reviews and unlimited chalanges to it acccuracy. Overall it a great book and well-researched. Mike172.131.1.190 (talk) 06:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Criticism section is horrible

No where does the author mention that industrialized nations do not see a sharp decline in standard of living because of free trade. He just says that average wages decline and CEO salaries rise due to the concentration of economic power in the hands of a few firms. By contrast the standard of living in third world nations takes a huge dive south. Then economists compare the third world nations ravaged by globalization with the industrialized nations that see their wages slip and income inequality rise, and go on to say that globalization works for the first world. So what the author addresses is the faulty logic of some economists who spin this tidbit to promote economic globalization. Also, the author doesn't mention anything about command-centralized economies like North Korea, nor does he promote that model! Just because you are against free trade and globalization does not make one a Communist. The criticism section needs to be rewritten because it is really lousy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.239.201.177 (talk) 05:07, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

The whole article looks bad. Stars4change (talk) 16:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Forced to need money

I think one of the most important things in the book that isn't mentioned here, and should be, is how we were forced to need money. It's in ch. 20, "People with no place." People need to know that needing money is not the way the world should operate, since millions have no way to get any money to buy necessities. Could someone add that? Stars4change (talk) 16:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

You can take a slave out of the field and put him in an office, but he's still a slave. The slaves didn't own the land they worked on, but they should have. Small businesses would still cause poverty, & corporations would still cause poverty. All people should own all things on earth, even & especially all corporate slave plantations, because it would end world poverty (& crimes & wars). Then we could eliminate all harmful "jobs/work", like weapons, automobiles, lumber, toxic chemicals, construction, paper, banks, tobacco, prisons, prostitution, child labor, & almost everything, & still end world poverty! I wish Mr Korten would have said that. Stars4change (talk) 15:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

The buying & selling of slaves was the profit system, & now people must sell themselves into slavery, or starve, which is also the same slave system to make profits for the few rich owners. "Eliminating jobs increases profits" shows the wage system is the problem, not the solution. Stars4change (talk) 16:13, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Here it is, so can you add it to show how we were forced to need money. From "When Corporations Rule the World":

"One of the major challenges faced by colonial administrators was to force those who obtained their livelihoods from their own lands and common areas to give their lands and labor to plantation development, that is, to make them dependent on a money economy so that their resources, labor, and consumption might yield PROFITS to the colonizers.....

"In many colonized countries, the imposition of TAXES payable only in cash was used to force people into the cash economy.....Taxes were imposed on whatever villagers would find it most difficult to do without. In Vietnam, the French imposed taxes on salt, opium, and alcohol. The British in Sudan taxed crops, animals, houses, and households. In their West African colonies, the French punished tax evasion by holding wives and children hostage, whipping men, burning huts, and leaving people tied up without food for several days....." Stars4change (talk) 04:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

It seems to me that we can't be cashless as long as 2-3 billion people on earth can't get any or enough money to get an ATM or credit card or bank account. Stars4change (talk) 18:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

That info about forced to need money is the most important info in the history of the world. Stars4change (talk) 01:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

WCRTW Korten also says every person should have a Guaranteed Income. Look at any early US history, like Shays' Rebellion, Whiskey Rebellion, list of strikes, ALL of it shows clearly that the rich were then as now trying to get richer by oppressing the poor & forcing the poor to pay the most in taxes, ETC. They were forced to need money but had no way to get any money. Stars4change (talk) 05:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I need to explain why being forced to need money is so important. Because people ignorantly say "They should have bought health insurance so that sickness wouldn't have made them lose their house" but they can NOT SEE that they had no way to get the money to BUY it. There are billions of examples like that. Stars4change (talk) 04:17, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Add website

Could you please add this website that has many excerpts from this excellent book, & many others, which shows that America must abandon corporate idolatry: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/index.html Thank you. Stars4change (talk) 17:54, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

The URL provided is not directly related to the book so I fail to see why it needs to be added to the article. -- Whpq (talk) 18:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Stars4change, you'd be better off linking directly to the excerpts for this book...http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Korten/WhenCorpsRuleWorld_Korten.htmlCronos1 (talk) 02:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, how about adding the link that Cronos1 said? Stars4change (talk) 01:08, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

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