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Areas Included in Hollywood

Population, area size, population density, and other stats deffer greatly depending on which areas are included in Hollywood. Can someone find the official boundaries as described by the CA Assembly Bill 588, mentioned in the intro. --Jkfp2004 (talk) 00:35, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

The City of Los Angeles does indeed determine the boundaries for its communities/neighborhoods/districts. This article (Hollywood) is mistaken when it states this is not typically done. Visit the City of Los Angeles' web site -Planning Department, General Plan Update - for boundary information. Ms. Planner (talk) 03:58, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
From what I could gather at this link, the boundaries stated are just the boundaries used by the planning dept. for their general plan and don't necessarily represent the boundaries laid out by the state in AB588. Am I looking at this wrong, or were you looking at a different link? Thanks!--Jkfp2004 (talk) 06:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
AB 588 "Defines the community of Hollywood, for purposes of this bill, as the City of Los Angeles' Hollywood Community Plan Area established in 1974, and lists the area's 2000 United States Census tract numbers. Also defines the community of Hollywood by a lengthy geographical description based on freeways, roads, city boundaries, and the Los Angeles River." It sounds complicated. Looking at the description in this version, it is complicated. But I can't find a map anywhere.   Will Beback  talk  07:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to everyone for the help. As of now, I'm going to leave the population and area figures as they are, until I can get some better info that I can understand. Hopefully once the 2010 census is done, we'll get some concrete up to date info. If anyone wants to take the time and map the district block-by-block based on the descriptions feel free (and good luck!) --Jkfp2004 (talk) 07:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
The bill includes the specific census tract numbers, so if you're interested in tallying up the figures it'd be quite easy and precise, except for one partial tract. Here are the tracts:
188200, 189100, 189200, 189300, 189400, 189500, 189600, 189701, 189702, 189800, 189901, 189902, 190100, 190200, 190301, 190400, 190510, 190520, 190700, 190800, 190901, 190902, 191000, 191110, 191120, 191201, 191203, 191204, 191300, 191410, 191420, 191500, 191610, 191620, 191710, 191720, 191810, 191820, 191900, 192000, 192610 (partial), 194100, 194200, 194300, 194400, 195200, 195300.
I'm not sure what the best thing would be to do with the partial tract. But maybe calling one of the city council offices would help? There must be a map buried somewhere on the city website. Or they may already have the information you're looking for. That was the purpose of the bill, anyway.   Will Beback  talk  07:51, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Districts vs. Neighborhoods

I have noticed that many articles describe neighborhoods in Los Angeles as districts. To my knowledge the City of Los Angeles refers to regions of the city as neighborhoods and does not mention the word "districts" in any description. For now, I'm going to change the intro and infobox to reflect this, based off the info from LAcity.org and the Los Angeles Neighborhood Councils. If anyone can show me something official that mentions districts (and which neighborhoods are districts, if any), feel free to change it back.--Jkfp2004 (talk) 07:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Angelino Heights, Los Angeles, California which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. Purplebackpack89 02:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved all per request and moved Hollywood, Los Angeles, California to Hollywood. As pointed out below, Hollywood already redirects to this page and needs no further qualification. --RegentsPark (talk) 20:44, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Hollywood, Los Angeles, CaliforniaHollywood, Los Angeles — Per Talk:Los Angeles#Various move requests involving LA Neighborhoods, it was decided that the California should be dropped from LA Neighborhoods, because the title of the LA article is Los Angeles, there is no other Los Angeles with neighborhood articles, and just because it was shorter (WP:COMMONNAME). This is only about dropping the California. Don't turn it into dropping the Los Angeles as well!. Four other neighborhoods which had been accidentally left out of the discussion earlier are also included. Purplebackpack89 00:31, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

  • For Hollywood, I suspect all qualifiers (both Los Angeles and California) could be dropped without issue. If a qualifier is deemed necessary for Hollywood, California not Los Angeles should be employed. For the others, I support without issue.--Labattblueboy (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Why California and not Los Angeles? Hollywood is not a seperate city. Purplebackpack89 21:03, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Common name. As I said before, I don't believe it requires one but when left with no option reliable sources seem to view it as the most preferable option (google book search; 12,100 hits for "Hollywood, Los Angeles" -wiki and 116,000 hits for "Hollywood, California" -wiki).--Labattblueboy (talk) 02:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • I disagree with "Hollywood" or with "Hollywood, California". The latter because it's not an independent city, and the former because this isn't necessarily the primary usage. When people write "Hollywood" they are frequently referring to the mainstream American film industry. I think it's best to keep that name a disambiguation page.   Will Beback  talk  21:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Hollywood, is not a dab. page and, to my knowledge, has never been so. It was the article title until 2008, when the current title was adopted.--Labattblueboy (talk) 02:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • PS: I agree with "Hollywood, Los Angeles" instead of the current name in order to bring it into conformity with the other neighborhood articles.   Will Beback  talk  21:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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