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anusaaraka page deleted ?
Hi Mike,
Long ago this page was deleted citing reason ((G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) This is a free GPL based opensource Machine Translation software for English to Indian languages. For details you can read . Can you please restore the site. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anudev (talk • contribs) 18:56, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- The "article" that was deleted by that name, was an advertisement for a non-notable project still under development. If you feel this software is now notable enough to have its own article in Misplaced Pages, then create a new article by that name. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
pixetell article for your review
Hi OrangeMike, my name’s Dan Cook. I'm contacting you because you've worked on the Pixetell article in the past. I work for the company that produces the software and I have been learning more about Misplaced Pages so that we may have a page there that is informative and objective. I have posted a proposed rewrite for the article in my user space which I believe is a general improvement over the article you commented on. I hope this version addresses the concerns in the tags at the top of the page. Please take a look if you have a moment. (See link at Talk:Pixetell.) -Dan Cook 20:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DDcook (talk • contribs)
Possible un-blacklist?
Hey Orange Mike,
I run the music news website DyingScene.com. When I first launched the site my editors and I used the account DyingSceneMusic to update band pages with information as it came to us which we ignorantly sourced back to ourselves. At the time, I didn't realize that was a violation and now that I know, I do not intend to use this account (or any account) ever again. I have also made it clear to all contributors and editors of DyingScene to under no circumstances ever update a wikipedia page and use dyingscene.com as the source. Unfortunatley it looks like dyingscene.com had been blacklisted before I could notify everybody to stop self-sourcing.
As our site grows, however (now up to 40,000 uniques - not bad, for a niche punk news site), I would like wikipedia contributors to be able to use our site as a source if it is valid to do so, which brings me to the point of this message; Is it possible to have the blacklisting reversed, set on probation, or at the very least be reconsidered after a certain time period (6 months?, one year?)?
I do not intend to use the account ever again so it is fine if it remains blocked. Please let me know what can be done to undo the blacklisting (if anything).
Sincerely,
Dave (DyingSceneMusic) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.43.51 (talk) 22:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- Make your case at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed removals. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:25, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Accusation of vandalism
If you continue to vandalize my talk pages i will have you blocked indefinitely!--Light for JC (talk) 18:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Light for JC
(somebodies jealous of my handwriting on my talk pages>hum....?)--Light for JC (talk) 18:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC) Light for JC oh, and also some times i abbreviate or make short my comments on my talk pages to make typing faster , not because i cant spell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Light for JC (talk • contribs) 18:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
OrangeMike, Sorry; won't do that again.
OrangeMike, sorry for break with protocol. These were nondestructive edits, of course. It looks to me that you reinstated everything. I will learn how to archive as soon as I have time. Meanwhile, I believe all text was restored by you. Thanks so much. Harmonia1 (talk) 01:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Landover Baptist is Helpful
OrangeMike, I have informed the members of LBC about your descriptions of the church and its website. They are pleased with your interest and they will be contacting you on the issue of its legitimacy and the accuracy of the article.Thank You Cosmos0001 (talk) 05:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, Orangemike. You have new messages at Nbahn's talk page.Message added 05:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
(query to you) <br. />—NBahn (talk) 05:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
House of Vlašim
Vlasime (talk) 05:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC)House of Vlasim
Hello .. why did you make changes ?
I added more detail and references which confirm the information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vlasime (talk • contribs) — Vlasime (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
I removed NPOV tag
If I read the history right, you left a number of tags on Gay Apostolic Pentecostals. At the time of tagging, the article was in poor shape. Looks like it is materially improved. I removed an NPOV tag, as I didn't see the problem in the existing text (although I didn't scrutinize each version to see if it was there and removed.) I just wanted to give you a heads up, as you added the tag.--SPhilbrickT 12:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- You did the right thing; it's clearly a better article now. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:25, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Mpmpl_journals
You blocked this user, as a spam only account, and I do not think he should have been. He just needs to adopt a new name. He is entering straight descriptive material, and at least one, Annals of African Medicine is clearly notable, I think Conservation and Society is also, & am checking the others. I will advise him accordingly. DGG ( talk ) 17:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Duck.
Mostly my username is because I needed a username. Something unique, inoffensive, and not implying any special claim of expertise. Yes, 'twas a Marx Brothers reference (even though I hadn't seen the movie yet at the time). -- Why Not A Duck 21:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice
Appreciate the insight on weakening my own arguments. However, I specifically mentioned how tha PPV (pay per view) gates, in which MMA had 7 out of 10 of the highest views in the world for the last 4 years, proved that (I guess I should have cited that though, huh?). If you're not a fan, I understand you might not get how incredibly popular MMA is. But the reality is what the reality is, and there are so many (secondary) sources out there that will back it up I honestly don't thing its a point worth arguing about. Thanks for your comments though. Mmasource (talk) 20:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Trypophobia
Hey OrangeMike. I've reviewed the submission history of "Trypophobia," and noticed there were probably a few incomplete submissions, likely without any sources cited and generally written in a poor manner, so it has been locked. With a little research, I've found I'm definitely not the only person that becomes anxious, itchy, and downright creeped out by little holes, like ones in swiss cheese, lotus seed pods, and things like my shower drain. some info about it can be found here: http://ptsdcentral.com/tag/trypophobia/ It seems there haven't been many, if any studies on trypophobia, but it is definitely a real phobia, thought most of the population is probably not affected by it. So I was just wondering what your thoughts on it were, if you believe it should be a full article on wikipedia or not, and if there's anything I can do to help make it happen. LethargicS (talk) 23:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- If there are some solid reliable sources, then go for it; but it's a lot easier to make up a term for a phobia than to document its existence as an actual clinical phenomenon. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:47, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Your opinion on policy
There have been regular difference of opinion in article deletion debates regarding NPOV application. It's an intersecting of WP:WAX the final entry on legitimate usage, WP:BIAS and the current reading of WP:NPOV. I hopefully summarized my case effectively here. Alatari (talk) 06:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Zeeland Library and BibliOosterschelde
Hello Mike,
My account has been blocked after one day, just because i tried to help to make the entry Zeeland Library better by translating the entry from the Dutch Misplaced Pages. Nothing more, nothing less. I added BibliOosterschelde as well. It's called not notable, but serves a bigger audience than Zeeland Library. Right now, dutch libraries are working on a project with Wikimedia, in order to get people to understand Misplaced Pages better. I wrote tens of articles on this kind of cooperation. But it's quite hard to add content. The rules are not consistent. Not quite stimulating... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zbdigitaal (talk • contribs) 09:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- See my response at User talk:Zbdigitaal.--Orange Mike | Talk 17:32, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Bilderberg Group Conspiracy
Hi Mike,
I am very new to wikipedia but have read all the details surrounding my first post. After reading those details I decided to edit the current page Link rather then create a new one. I have done loads of research in regards to this subject but decided to post my ideas under the conspiracy section. After posting my material including the potential plans developed (and already being seen in real life), the various people attending this meeting I found the post deleted because its not considered "neutral". Ok... Now please refer to your own wording of conspiracy, ], in particular: Such characterization is often the subject of dispute due to its possible unfairness and inaccuracy. I cant understand how a conspiracy theory section is supposed to be neutral and would love some feedback as to how I can post this information in a more "neutral" manner. This is if neutrality is the reason for my post being deleted. The vast majority of people due to attend the next meeting in Spain listed in my post have already been confirmed as regulars to the annual meeting. Surely simply posting names and positions of attendees to the meeting isn't in any way un-neutral? Thanks for any feedback!
Regards, UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk) 19:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not Mike, but I'm going to tell you the same thing he will. Your sources do not meet the criteria outlined in WP:RS. On Misplaced Pages, entries about living people (WP:BLP), especially contentious information, MUST be sourced with reliable source. Your list is all living people and their attendence is contentious. Therefore, it should have been deleted. Please adhere to these policies and take heed with the warnings or you will find yourself blocked. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:15, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt reply, it does however not help in my dilemma. How can a post made under the banner of conspiracy have a reliable source? Surely if it had reliable sources it wouldn't be a conspiracy? Again I refer to your sites own interpretation of conspiracy: The term "conspiracy theory" may be a neutral descriptor for any legitimate or illegitimate claim of civil, criminal or political conspiracy. To conspire means "to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or to use such means to accomplish a lawful end." I can understand your logic if we where not dealing under the banner of conspiracy I mean the same logic would mean you should you delete all Wiki entries about UFO's etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk • contribs) 19:45, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- People write books and magazine articles about claimed conspiracies all the time. If you can't point to such sources then what you're repeating is rumor, and not appropriate for Misplaced Pages articles. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 19:47, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Again conspiracy theories ARE rumors because they cant be proven. However posting information regarding the potential conspiracy plans can then with time reveal their authenticity. The sources I have used and studied have previously detailed plans that have come to into play several years later. Bilderberg has been in existence for several decades in TOTAL secrecy, only a few years ago was its simple existence exposed. You are now telling me that the page entitled Bilderberg must have factual sources in order to be posted when with a tiny bit of research you would know that last meeting in Greece was guarded by the local police, Mossad, CIA, Navy commandos, two F16 fighter planes and sharp shooters with orders to kill if you intrude.Reliable Source. Then you might as well remove the page all together as all thats been reliably proven is it exists. UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk) 20:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I just looked at the source and only about half of what you just said above is in the article. It didn't say anything about Mossad, the CIA or "sharpshooters with order to kill if you intrude". So you listed 6 things and 3 of them weren't in the source. That kind of stuff will get you jammed up fast around here. Niteshift36 (talk) 07:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- If you post unsourced conspiracy theories again, you will be blocked. OhNoitsJamie 20:13, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) If a source has written about a conspiracy, then the conspiracy can be added (citing the source). If no source can be found, then the conspiracy can't be added. TFOWR 20:15, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) And, again, people write articles in magazines and books about conspiracy theories all the time. You need to use sources that are reliable written sources and which Wikipedians and other researchers can verify. Blogs aren't good enough. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 20:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- There should be some way to add some of this information (sans the list of attendees) to the conspiracies section, since the section is about what conspiracy theorists claim, but I think you personally won't be able to keep your style neutral since you feel so passionate about it. Though maybe if someone who's neutral would bother to help you out with this, that'd be great. (I personally have no idea what's going on so I don't think I can help much.) ×××BrightBlackHeaven××× 20:20, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I would like to try to be as neutral as possible to be able to pass this information on, however it will take time for me to reword my post. I am unsure at this point if its worth it as ALL major media are part of the Bilderberg group and hence of course wont have anything to do with its exposure. Please enlighten me what type of source would be deemed approvable. For example would This and This and This be regarded as a potential source I can use for my post?
Thanks for your help UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk) 20:35, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- The Guardian is a RS without debate. The Free Press one does make me a little uneasy because it appears to be written to promote a book. That could be debated. Conspiracyplanet? I doubt you'll find many supporters of that being considered a RS. Can I ask if you have actually read WP:RS yet? Niteshift36 (talk) 20:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- The Canadian Free Press is an online right wing website, described variously as a 'right wing whacko news site' and a 'racist right wing rag'. Hard to see what it could be used for in most articles. And the editor needs to read WP:OR. Dougweller (talk) 20:55, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Reply to Niteshift: Yes I have read it, my quarrel is that most publications I understand as being approved by the Wiki WP:RS wont have anything to do with conspiracy theories regarding the Bilderberg group as they themselves are part of it. Its like asking for the conspirators to prove the conspiracy. I have enough material from The Guardian and The Free Press to create my post with sources I can post to back it up. Is there anywhere I can create a draft to be checked and approved as to not be blocked if my 1st attempt doesn't suffice to meet the required guidelines? —Preceding unsigned comment added by UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk • contribs) 21:03, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Plenty of reliable sources address conspiract theories. You're finding that out here. It may not be the exact info you want or that you want included in the article, but that's just the way it is sometimes. An essay that you might find enlightening is WP:TRUTH. For example, I can watch a bridge collapse and 20 people die. I can't put it on Misplaced Pages, even though it is absolutely true. I have to wait for some reporter who wasn't even there to write about it. It is frustrating, but realistic. We can't be a repository of every bit of information on the internet. Any crackpot with an axe to grind can put up a website and say anything they want. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia and we have to have things like the RS standard. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Dougweller I can assure you I am neither right wing nor racist and nothing in my post would be either. I would strictly be staying on topic in regards to the secret meetings and potential discussions/plans taking place within it. UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk) 21:09, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sure that wasn't what Doug meant - as I understood it he was commenting that The Free Press would probably not be a reliable source. TFOWR 21:12, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I think I know how to create my post citing the required Wiki RS sources, can I create a draft somewhere without spamming and without fear of being blocked and somehow have my post checked to make sure its neutral enough and that my sources meet the RS guidelines. I wont be making use of the Free Press in light of these new facts (not a regular reader, simply found a good story about Bilderberg on their site). I will most likely be using The Guardian, Government websites, The Indipendent and potentially if approved Rebel News. I would like to thank you all for your contribution and help! UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk) 21:20, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sure that wasn't what Doug meant - as I understood it he was commenting that The Free Press would probably not be a reliable source. TFOWR 21:12, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- You can make a draft here, for example: User:UNLiMiTED TRUTH/Bilderberg Group, and ask anyone you think has good judgement to take a look at it. Sorry about the warnings, I know I hate being threatened when I'm trying to help, but that's just how Misplaced Pages functions. ×××BrightBlackHeaven××× 21:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I Have gathered all the sources (and more) that I need for my post from what I understand to be eligible sources under WK:RS, to speed up the process of digesting the sources and to ensure I dont make false assumptions into what is deemed RS I would like a moderator to confirm the below links are ok for me to use for my intended post.
Rebel News The Independent The Guardian BBC J.F.K Quote from Wiki : ) UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk) 21:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I hate to be difficult, and this is going to sound odd, but hopefully you might even find it funny... but Misplaced Pages is not a reliable source - you can't use references from Misplaced Pages or other user-edited web-sites. The other sources looked OK to me at first glance - the Guardian and the Independent are two of the five major UK boardsheets, and the BBC - well, the BBC is the BBC ;-) TFOWR 21:55, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Special thanks to BrightBlackHeaven for all the useful information and help!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk • contribs) 21:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, the bbc, we all trust the bbc. It depends not only on the citation but also on the content. It this to do with the Glenn Beck alert about Maurice Strong? Off2riorob (talk) 22:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Surely if a wiki post needs to be RS to be posted it should be able to used as RS? Im confused lol : ) The speech is a very famous one from 1969 before the UN about secret societies. I hope that it should be ok as I will quote it and can easily find another source if need be. I am hoping that common sense will prevail on this last issue and that I wont be require to. You guys have been very helpful, thanks for your patience and time!!! I will now get started on the link BrightBlackHeaven kindly presented UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk) 22:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- You can use the sources used in the Kennedy article, just not the article itself! Am I right in thinking you're just intending to quote Kennedy himself? That should be pretty easy to do, without using Misplaced Pages as a source. (Ask me for help with that if you run into problems). TFOWR 22:08, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, the bbc, we all trust the bbc. It depends not only on the citation but also on the content. It this to do with the Glenn Beck alert about Maurice Strong? Off2riorob (talk) 22:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- A remarkable speech of courage, most likely the one that cost him his life... : ( Wont post it all as fairly long but yes its quoted from JFK.
Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen: I appreciate very much your generous invitation to be here tonight. You bear heavy responsibilities these days and an article I read some time ago reminded me of how particularly heavily the burdens of present day events bear upon your profession. You may remember that in 1851 the New York Herald Tribune under the sponsorship and publishing of Horace Greeley, employed as its London correspondent an obscure journalist by the name of Karl Marx. I want to talk about our common responsibilities in the face of a common danger. The events of recent weeks may have helped to illuminate that challenge for some; but the dimensions of its threat have loomed large on the horizon for many years. Whatever our hopes may be for the future--for reducing this threat or living with it--there is no escaping either the gravity or the totality of its challenge to our survival and to our security--a challenge that confronts us in unaccustomed ways in every sphere of human activity. This deadly challenge imposes upon our society two requirements of direct concern both to the press and to the President--two requirements that may seem almost contradictory in tone, but which must be reconciled and fulfilled if we are to meet this national peril. I refer, first, to the need for a far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy. The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceeding.... You get the jist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk • contribs) 22:23, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have completed version 1.0, a simple copy paste job from the sources I have decided to use. Whilst cutting it down I was blocked, first permanently, then for 30 something hours. Once I had a chance to speak to the Moderator I was told that my post is an advocacy platform and not the intended use of Wiki. I will make due amendments and would like all the feedback I can get to make sure I am following Wiki guidelines for this post. My sole objective is to relay some information not widely known and not promote any particular agenda. If you have some time to hand please give me some feedback as to how I can accomplish my goal within the required guidelines. Thanks, UNLiMiTED TRUTH (talk) 01:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- First, I think there are some copyright violation on your draft - we say 'copyvio', as I've found unattributed direct statements from a self-published book called "10th Amendment Secures A Republic Form Of Government!!!" and the BBC. Note that Authorhouse books are all self-published and can't be used as sources. Darkpolitricks isn't a reliable source either. Nor is 'www.powerofno.org' whose slogan is "Destroy the New World Order before it destroys you". You can't have copyright violations anywhere. Dougweller (talk) 05:16, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- (Should we move this to the draft's talk page? Maybe?) Right now it looks a bit long, I'll remind you that we're writing an encyclopedia here. And like said above, don't ever copy-paste directly. Facts aren't copyrighted but the text is, so you'll have to re-word it, hopefully in a more concise manner. You'll definitely have to add inline citations, after every fact and quote that's from a different source. Would this whole thing go under the conspiracy theories section or where?
- I'll try to actually look at the content now to see if I can help in writing it.
- The PowerOfNo article is from infowars.com, is that a reliable source? Wnd.com doesn't look too reliable either. ×××BrightBlackHeaven××× 07:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- infowars.com sure as hell isn't a RS. WND is oft debated at the RS/N. Generally the consensus is no. Niteshift36 (talk) 07:54, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Long overdue pint
See your work occasionally but owe you this for a long time. If not for your timely intervention in extracting me from an early difficulty, I might have given up on this Misplaced Pages thing at the start (2007). Best. RashersTierney (talk) 01:38, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
RashersTierney (talk) has bought you a pint! Sharing a pint is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a pint, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Cheers!
Sock
I believe User:Betsy Cragon is a sock of someone you blocked recently. ccwaters (talk) 15:02, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Good catch; sockblocked and their post responded to. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:24, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Unprotect a talk page
Please. Talk:Manifest Destiny 85.77.220.235 (talk) 19:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Charlotte Centre Curling Club
Hello, so if I understand correctly, it is your opinion that an old club like the Milwaukee Curling Club is notable, but a new club is not, even if it's been the subject of a lot of attention as being the only club formed in response to the 2010 Olympics to actually incorporate, get rocks, etc. OK, that's your opinion and you are, of course, entitled to it. I would appreciate it if you would tell me your opinion on notability of the following:
Thanks for your attention, --WaxonWaxov (talk) 22:27, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Those are sixteen different articles, and that would be sixteen different discussions. Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:09, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have taken a quick spin through them, tagged for speedy deletion the ones that pretty clearly qualify for deletion and templated others with issues tags. – ukexpat (talk) 19:02, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Ella Chi
This is my first time on Misplaced Pages, I work for Ella's PR company and I have been trying to establish this as a reputable page. Thank you for your input, but please forgive the content that is perhaps of 'promotional' nature - I am trying to adapt this as we speak. I am currently searching for more reputable sources, as I understand that the link to the club is not good enough. Please do not be rude though, as I have been working on this for ages! Claire Paxton-Rider (talk) 17:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
I work for her Radio Plugging company - we call it PR as it is a type of public relations. I am doing her label manager a favour by attempting to create the page. I am not a publicist, therefore am an impartial 3rd party. Claire Paxton-Rider (talk) 11:04, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- You are absolutely a publicist, and are by no means an impartial 3rd party! --Orange Mike | Talk 13:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Amazingly enough I can actually believe that his person thinks she is "an impartial 3rd party". Such are the bizarre contortions of thinking which people in PR and marketing perform. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:48, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- After a certain time in the industry, they seem to become tone-deaf to the difference between copywriting and legitimate prose (or perhaps it is just those types who are drawn to the trade). They also seem to lose (if they ever had) any sensitivity to the concept that not everybody approves of this kind of shameless shilling. Claire posted just below here that she is "a plugger, not a publicist"; an incomprehensibly subtle distinction that reminds me of the social hierarchies in prisons between the various types of felons and misdemeanants (different kinds of murderers and rapists get different levels of status). --Orange Mike | Talk 14:07, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Amazingly enough I can actually believe that his person thinks she is "an impartial 3rd party". Such are the bizarre contortions of thinking which people in PR and marketing perform. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:48, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Agyenim Boateng
Dear OrangeMike,
I notice that the page has been altered and the photo has been deleted.
There is no conflict of interest in my first article on Agyenim Boateng. I am a lawyer in the UK. Agyenim is a separate entity based in Kentucky USA. I have read your guidelines and policies pertaining to neutral point of view and conflict of interest. I have provided some primary sources and secondary sources which are verifiable. I was having some difficulty in uploading the images. Please let me know why you think there is a conflict of interest and what secondary sources you are seeking.
Legaleagle101 (talk) 22:47, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Note, you don't need to use a 'helpme' when you leave a message on another users talk page; they'll see it.
- Putting {{helpme}} gets any helper to respond - it alerts us. So, I've cancelled it out. Chzz ► 22:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Wayne Miller (poet)
I know it's been a year, but I was wondering if you could review this speedy deletion. I believe it clearly states the notability, mentioning multiple awards won, and multiple publications. Yeah, it needs better sources, and this guy isn't a super star or anything, but I don't think the article was fit for speedy, and was wondering what you thought. -Andrew c 14:35, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
User Phmiraclesecrets
Phmiraclesecrets (talk · contribs) apparently started editing as 70.234.0.145 (talk · contribs) after the account was blocked. He's signing his comments with "phmiraclesecrets", once with "pHmiraclesecrets/Michael Dare". I'm not exactly sure why you blocked his account, so wanted to let you know of his continued editing in case this might be considered sockpuppetry. --Ronz (talk) 17:50, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Ella Chi
I am not a publicist, I am a plugger. They are different, but by the by - please can you inform me what changes I need to make to ensure that this abides by the Misplaced Pages rules, as I would like to put the page live. I have already edited many of the dubious content... Claire Paxton-Rider (talk) 11:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- It needs a lot more work, but I'm still not sure if it's worth the effort if the subject doesn't meet the notability guidelines. ×××BrightBlackHeaven××× 11:45, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- There are social hierarchies everywhere, even (my union brothers assure me) among murderers in maximum security prisons. This distinction you claim to exist between a "plugger" and any other species of publicist is imperceptible to the rest of us. More to the point, I have less than zero interest in helping you commit acts of advertisement here in Misplaced Pages. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh ok
So that page Orange (colour) is supposed to be misspelled. Ok. I thought it was a spelling error that needed fixing. Sorry about that. --Alpha Quadrant (talk) 17:52, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- It's not misspelled; it's spelled in the way that people in the country where this language we are both using was invented, choose to spell it. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:53, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hear, hear! – ukexpat (talk) 18:15, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Shouldn't that be "heare, heare"? TNXMan 18:22, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Don't get me wrong, Ukexpat: I'm a big Noah Webster guy myself (considering Sam. Johnson just another arrogant damned Tory Englishman, mostly to be ignored like all of his beastly tribe ); and I have been known to get downright snarky about the kind of insecure American who Anglicizes because Britspeak (or at least Britspell) is seen as more "upscale". That doesn't stop me from respecting WP:ENGVAR. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:42, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hear, hear! – ukexpat (talk) 18:15, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
BYSO
Oh, I'm definitely not questioning recent COI edits. I'm just arguing that it's a notable group, that had substantial content before the COI edits, so it didn't deserve that particular tag. {{tone}}, I won't dispute. :-) Thanks for the followup! --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:22, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Morrisjenkins
I checked the contributions of User:Morrisjenkins and saw only two entries - the image creations, and the post at WP:feed. Why don't I see a creation of a draft article and a move? I understand that the article was CSD'd, so I cannot see the article, but I didn't think a CSD removed entries from a contributions log. Am I wrong, or missing something?--SPhilbrickT 14:44, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- They're showing at Special:DeletedContributions/Morrisjenkins for me. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:47, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- I knew I couldn't see a deleted contribution, but for some reason, I thought I could see the entry in the contributions list. I was wrong. I've learned something new, thanks.--SPhilbrickT 15:16, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
IRA
Thank you for the comment on my talk page about Michael Collins. Do you have citations that support claims that the British may have assassinated him? I've heard stories about conspiracies that range from de Valera to the British in regards to Collins' death, but most accepted sources seem to go with the IRA. Thanks.Malke2010 18:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm... I read a book on that topic within the past three years which made that claim; but I have long since sold the book (one problem in working at a used-book store, I fear). I don't remember the title, and it was from a small Irish publisher. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'll do a Google search. How nice you work at a bookstore. I did that in college. Spent too much of my pay there, but I did get to read a lot when things were slow. :) Malke2010 18:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- Glad to hear you're not surviving on bookstore pay. I remember those wages. They were okay for a student, but not for real life.Malke2010 19:05, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'll do a Google search. How nice you work at a bookstore. I did that in college. Spent too much of my pay there, but I did get to read a lot when things were slow. :) Malke2010 18:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Pixetell page ready for review
Mike: Please visit my draft of the rewrite of the Pixetell page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:DDcook/Article_draft Your feedback would be greatly appreciated! Dan Cook 21:16, 21 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DDcook (talk • contribs)
User:Betsy Cragon
This user has requested to be unblocked on unblock-en-l since she created the new account after being informed that the previous account's username violated WP:UN. I believe this is a legitimate use of multiple accounts, but I wanted to request your comments on the matter before unblocking.
She has indicated that the author of the book is a friend of hers, so I am going to bring up COI in my response to her and suggest that she instead post the content she wishes to add on the talk page and let other editors decide if it should be included. (Assuming that she is unblocked, of course.) --Chris (talk) 19:45, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Original Barnstar | ||
Many thanks for your work with Wisconsin related articles-RFD (talk) 23:05, 22 May 2010 (UTC) |
Keegscee
Hello Rlevse. Since you were commented on Keegscee's block on his talk page, I'm listing you as an involved party an ArbCom request seeking an official ArbCom ban for that user. Your input is desired. PCHS-NJROTC 20:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)