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	== Main sources ==

	Parking the most detailed secondary sources here for future reference, in the order they appeared:

	*Kirby, Terry (2003). , ''The Independent'', 28 August 2003.
	*Midgley, Carol (2003). , ''The Times'', 7 November 2003.
	*Samuels, Tim (2004). , BBC ''Newsnight'', 12 February 2004.
	*Smith, David James (2004). , ''The Sunday Times'', 18 July 2004.
	*Kirby, Terry (2004). , ''The Independent'', 21 July 2004.
	*Witt, April (2004). , ''The Washington Post'', 24 October 2004.
	*Townsend, Mark (2004). , ''The Observer'', 31 October 2004.
	*Townsend, Mark (2006). , ''The Guardian'', 17 September 2006.
	*Townsend, Mark and Doward, Jamie (2007). , ''The Observer'', 25 March 2007.
	*Nugent, Helen (2007). , ''The Times'', 28 March 2007.
	*Nordhausen, Frank (2007). , ''Berliner Zeitung'', 4 April 2007.
	*Degen, Wolfgang (2007). , ''Wiesbadener Kurier'', 19 April 2007.

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	:Here's a recent article, though I don't know if it has any new info.
	:*Taylor, Jerome (2010). ''The Independent '' 27 February 2010
	:There are also a few offline sources of comparable quality.   <b>]  ]  </b> 19:44, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

	::Thanks for the Independent article, which I hadn't seen. <font color="purple">]</font> <small><sup><font color="red">]</font> <font color="green">]</font></sup></small> 05:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

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	:OK found it (re)added and restored. ''] ]'', 12:29, 23 April 2010 (UTC).

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This article is written from the point of view of the British judicial authorities, who are only commentators in this case. The point of view of the German authorities, who actually have legal standing, is buried at the end of the article. It seemed to me that the obvious solution was to give equal billing to the public statements of the Germans. However, Slimvirgin, who judging from the history seems to have written this article almost single-handedly, reversed my edit, so I have added the unbalanced warning. If the article were titled "British campaign on Death of Jeremiah Duggan," the present layout might be appropriate, but if it is billed as a factual article explaining his death, the German viewpoint ought not to be suppressed. Albert Sumlin (talk) 11:44, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Slimvirgin, what you put in the "edit summary" box was "that makes the lead too long." I'd like to point out that you had other options; if the length of the lead is a problem, you could reduce both points of view proportionately, instead of reducing only that of the German authorities. Also, much of what you reversed was not in the lead at all, it was in the middle of the article, but you still moved it back to the end. Albert Sumlin (talk) 11:53, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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