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Another DAB Challenge Leaderboard Issue
I'm sure you're already aware of this, but you know what assume does.
The Leaderboard section is reporting the following error:
Database connection error: User 'jason' has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource (current value: 15)
Ulric1313 (talk) 05:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, they upgraded PHP to a version that doesn't support the pattern matching used in my scripts. I hope to have it fixed by tonight. --JaGa 10:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Just checking to be sure you know this: although the database connection error is gone, the Leaderboard still isn't updating (and hasn't since about March 7). I wanna know whether Woohookitty is over 5000 edits yet! :-) R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Musicals - primary topic
Thanks for raising the issue at WP:MUSICALS. In the cases where there is a consensus, would you kindly go ahead and make the moves? Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry, I totally overlooked this message! It looks like others have taken care of it. My apologies for the negligence. --JaGa 09:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Untagged Deadend Pages broken
As of right now, Untagged Deadend Pages has a total of 4 items, even after a refresh. As much as I'd love to believe that's true... :)--Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Fabrictramp. Updates on the Toolserver have broken my scripts. I'm going to have to rewrite it to get it working again - but I will get it working again! Don't give up on me, this is just a very busy time for me right now. :) --JaGa 12:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- I can relate. :) Thanks in advance for whatever you can do.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:59, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- Done at last! deadend pages is up and running again. --JaGa 12:17, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- I can relate. :) Thanks in advance for whatever you can do.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:59, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Toolserver Pages
All seem to be saying the following:
Unknown database 'u_jason' Database connection error: Unknown database 'u_jason' Ulric1313 (talk) 17:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ergh, Toolserver is killin' me. The error that is causing the dab challenge to fail is causing my database connections to pile up. I checked - the tables are still there, so my schema hasn't been deleted, despite what the error implies. I'll try to get to this, but we just moved to a new apartment (no broadband yet) and I can't access the Toolserver from work. But I'll do what I can. --JaGa 09:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
- OK, should be sorted. Let me know if you see any new problems. --JaGa 12:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi
Yes, it's been a while. Never enough time to work on all of the projects that you're interested in. J04n(talk page) 21:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Wild Horses
Don't you think that making the Rolling Stones song the primary topic shows bias? If it stays at (Rolling Stones song) I'll be more than happy to fix the links. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • 19:32, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
- <<shrug>> I'd say that is the most famous "version", making it primary. The question boils down to popularity; if most people, when searching for Wild Horses (song), have the Stones' version in mind, the link should go there, with a hatnote for the other versions. Just the other day, someone wanted to point Balzac to a disambig because there's other stuff called Balzac. But since a large number of searches and links are with the intention of finding the author, the author gets primary status - proper bias, I suppose. Now, Wild Horses is much more debatable, and if the status quo stays I won't be upset. Mostly, I hope to see those who boldly move articles clean up after themselves. (I'm not at all worried about you, btw; I've seen you around and know you to be responsible; I only needed to make sure you were aware of the need of cleanup.) --JaGa 22:29, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Toolserver questions
Two questions for you...
- I've noticed a small bug in recent weeks when working with the uncategorized articles toolserver; what happens is that a vandal blanks all or part of an article, resulting in category removal, and another user or bot reverts — but then, even though the categories are back on the article, it remains listed as uncategorized until another subsequent edit is made to the article after the revert. I have no idea how many articles it ultimately affects, but I've seen it at least four or five times in the past week alone — just as an example, this happened to Aretha Franklin on Saturday, and then Cluebot reverted it, but even after that it remained on the uncategorized articles list until I did a no-change save on the article several hours later. Is that something you're able to fix on the toolserver end, or is it an unavoidable server glitch?
- I'm also wondering, is there a way to scan or search the uncategorized articles list for titles which have a specific word in them? For example, as a user who lives in Toronto, I'd sometimes like to be able to scan the list for all titles which have the word "Toronto" (or "Ontario", or "Canada", and on and so forth) in them, so that I can knock off a batch job in AWB whenever possible, instead of having to manually eyeball a list of about 15,000 articles one title at a time. Is there, or could there be in the future, a way to do that?
Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 22:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- Another example of #1: design was blanked and reverted almost two days ago, and I just force-saved it off the list now. Bearcat (talk) 23:12, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- And Alex Ríos. I promise I'll stop now; you get the idea :-) Bearcat (talk) 00:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- Ah yes, that bug has been an annoyance to me for a long time. I duly reported it some time ago, and it's been duly ignored. Would you be interested in updating the bug with your findings? You'll have to create an account on the MediaWiki site to get at the bug. Here's the bug report, which you'll see, is exactly what you described; the last update is one of those somewhat condescending "I can't reproduce it so obviously there's no problem" comments. Perhaps a word from you, a different user verifying its continued existence, could get it moving? It would be a service to the wiki, if we could only get the right person to look into it; this doesn't only affect the uncat reports. (BTW, sorry to say, I wouldn't know how to address your request #2). --JaGa 20:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- Update: I was about to update the bug myself, but I can't seem to find a reliable way to reproduce the bug (Not that I'm blanking pages; I'm just finding pages that were blanked and then reverted, and they all have their links intact.) Any thoughts? --JaGa 20:12, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- Ah yes, that bug has been an annoyance to me for a long time. I duly reported it some time ago, and it's been duly ignored. Would you be interested in updating the bug with your findings? You'll have to create an account on the MediaWiki site to get at the bug. Here's the bug report, which you'll see, is exactly what you described; the last update is one of those somewhat condescending "I can't reproduce it so obviously there's no problem" comments. Perhaps a word from you, a different user verifying its continued existence, could get it moving? It would be a service to the wiki, if we could only get the right person to look into it; this doesn't only affect the uncat reports. (BTW, sorry to say, I wouldn't know how to address your request #2). --JaGa 20:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- And Alex Ríos. I promise I'll stop now; you get the idea :-) Bearcat (talk) 00:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
is it possible
is it possible to delete an article "from all visibility"? brad olesen here
back in January you AfD'd an article - rightfully so. not contributed by me i had no idea it was up and I want any record of it deleted
and, can you delete this conversation as well??
brad olesen - article name deleted bcolesen my username
Bcolesen (talk) 23:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Is the page showing up on sites that scrape content from Misplaced Pages? If so you'll have to wait for them to refresh their content. I would bring the question up at Misplaced Pages:Help desk; I'm not an administrator and wouldn't have the power to do what you ask, if it's possible. I'll delete this conversation in the next few days if I don't hear from you. --JaGa 09:01, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Arno Elias
Hello JaGa. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Arno Elias, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Tikiwont (talk) 20:15, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Orphaned images
What happened to http://toolserver.org/~jason/orphaned_images.php ? Did you give up on it or has it been replaced by something else? It is still listed at: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Images and Media/Great Copyvio Purge. Thanks. ww2censor (talk) 09:45, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Huh, I didn't even know about that page. A change to the Toolserver some time ago broke most of my tools. I've rehabilitated the majority of them, but haven't worked on the Orphaned Images tools because I thought no one was using them. I'll fix it, but it'll be a few weeks before I can get to it - very busy at work right now. --JaGa 09:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Please drop me a talkback when you get it done. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 11:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I would like to second this request - I too found it very useful!! Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done --JaGa 21:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Great, thanks! Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Done --JaGa 21:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- I would like to second this request - I too found it very useful!! Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Please drop me a talkback when you get it done. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 11:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
User Results
What is the criteria used to recognize a disambiguation link fix at your toolserver page? I am curious, because I cleaned up about 500 links to Washington last week, but the disambiguation link fix page shows none. -- JPMcGrath (talk) 19:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hi JP, it's great to see you contributing to the project! The link fix page only shows fixes done to pages in the monthly list, which is a list of the 500 most-linked disambig pages as of the beginning of each month. Washington was converted into a disambig on May 4, so it wasn't available when the list was generated. Hence no one got credit for those fixes. I wish the list weren't so limited, but I have to do it that way for Toolserver performance reasons. --JaGa 19:20, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- That explains it, I think. I came across a list of top DAB pages with links here, which did contain the Washington page, but the monthly list does not. Is there a reason that the monthly list can't be updated from the other list? — JPMcGrath (talk) 03:58, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- It is updated from the other list, but only on the first of every month. This is the preferred way, as we can set a goal and pursue it through the course of a month. It would feel chaotic if that goal changed daily. --JaGa 08:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Doesn't really sound like a performance issue then. — JPMcGrath (talk) 01:15, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- There are also performance issues, but even if there weren't, I don't think people would want the change. --JaGa 08:05, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Doesn't really sound like a performance issue then. — JPMcGrath (talk) 01:15, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- It is updated from the other list, but only on the first of every month. This is the preferred way, as we can set a goal and pursue it through the course of a month. It would feel chaotic if that goal changed daily. --JaGa 08:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- That explains it, I think. I came across a list of top DAB pages with links here, which did contain the Washington page, but the monthly list does not. Is there a reason that the monthly list can't be updated from the other list? — JPMcGrath (talk) 03:58, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Toolserver suggestion
An article that has stub categories on it, but isn't in any articlespace categories, is actually considered to be uncategorized for the purposes of Misplaced Pages categorization. For example, China Stock Index Futures has the stub template on it, with the result that it has a category link on it for Category:China stubs, but since it isn't in any true topic categories it is still considered to be uncategorized.
So, is there a way that we can exclude such articles from the "Categorized articles" toolserver list, and include them in the "Uncategorized articles" list instead? Bearcat (talk) 00:22, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- There should be a way - aren't stub templates normally categorized as such? If so I could key off that. I'll check it out. --JaGa 08:06, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done - and the uncat count has jumped to about 40,000. --JaGa 18:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Toolserver Issues
Getting the following:
Database connection error. Please try again later. User 'jason' has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource (current value: 15)
Ulric1313 (talk) 07:29, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
- Resolved. Thanks for the heads up - I wouldn't have noticed so quickly without it. --JaGa 18:39, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
You are now a Reviewer
Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, will be commencing a a two-month trial at approximately 23:00, 2010 June 15 (UTC).
Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under flagged protection. Flagged protection is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial.
When reviewing, edits should be accepted if they are not obvious vandalism or BLP violations, and not clearly problematic in light of the reason given for protection (see Misplaced Pages:Reviewing process). More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found here.
If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. Courcelles (talk) 17:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Uncategorized stubs
Thanks for the change. The numbers may look daunting at first glance, but at least it gives us a more honest picture of the problem (and enables us to catch some articles that might never have been repaired otherwise.) I've also been able, so far, to identify about 5,000 articles that could be safely batched into bot jobs because the stub-to-needed-category correspondence was straightforward. I'm confident that over time we'll be able to whittle the list back down to a more manageable number again.
A couple of other questions:
- Is there, or could there be, a search tool that could be used to generate a batchlist of all uncategorized articles that have a specific word in their titles? For example, sometimes it would be nice to be able to search through the list for "school", which would generate a list of all uncategorized schools so that they can be dealt with as a batch. Or "Arkansas", or "Las Vegas", and on and so forth.
- In the longer term, if you or anyone else who creates toolserver tools would like a new project, it would be useful to have a separate tool that would list all articles which are categorized only by years of life, and don't have any other categories (excluding stubs, of course) on them — for instance, if a person is only categorized in "(Year) births" and "(Year) deaths", or "(Year) births" and "Living people", etc. Such articles aren't considered uncategorized for Misplaced Pages purposes, but they're not considered properly-categorized either, and generally need to at least have the {{morecat}} template added to them. But I'm just putting that out for consideration in case somebody would like to work on a tool for this purpose; it's not an urgent task and for all I know it may not even be workable.
- Another possibility, if it's workable, would be a tool which lists all pages outside of articlespace (talk pages, user pages, sandbox drafts, etc.) which are inappropriately filed in articlespace categories. I come across this problem a lot and would like to find a way to make it easier to fix.
Thanks again. Bearcat (talk) 22:20, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Bearcat. I'm glad the changes are working out for you. This is becoming a very productive collaboration.
- Definitely doable, my only concern is how long the query would take. I'll look into it.
- We could do this if we can define a set of "weak" categories. That could be tricky, though. I'm never crazy about hard-coded lists because they require constant maintenance.
- Sounds interesting. How would you define "articlespace-only" categories?
- --JaGa 08:01, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
TY
TY for the disambiguation in the Ryan Seacrest article, it was bothering me. Kudos! Shalom! DocOfSoc (talk) 23:26, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks much for the note. :) --JaGa 07:44, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Wrongful deletion of entry on "The Slap" by Roger McDonald
Dear JaGa,
I am the author ("blueyonhill") of the article on "The Slap" which you deleted from Misplaced Pages. I am also the author of the novel "The Slap" which the entry described. "The Slap" was published in 1996 but the same title was used by another author in 2008 for a novel, which has either led to some confusion as to the physical reality of "The Slap" or in some peculiar way disqualified the book's factual existence in an on-line encyclopaedia devoted to the tested recording of fact. It may be that there are few references to "The Slap" on the internet, as the internet's role in bibliography and book promotion was minimal in 1996 compared with today. However I assure you that in library holding lists, on bookshop shelves and in the libraries of readers "The Slap" has a verifiable existence.
(----) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueyonhill (talk • contribs) 22:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Roger. I've no doubt the book exists; it simply hasn't garnered the amount of attention necessary to merit inclusion in the wiki per Misplaced Pages:Notability (books). And the book is mentioned in your own article. --JaGa 22:17, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
You can email me at
blueyonhill@skymesh.com.au
--Blueyonhill 22:44, 19 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueyonhill (talk • contribs)
The Slap by Roger McDonald
"The Slap" has not won a major literary award, but several of my other books have, which in my reading of Misplaced Pages's literary guidelines (point 5) means that my article on "The Slap" could be restored on the grounds that "The book's author is so historically significant that any of his or her written works may be considered notable". Historical in this context relates to my long publishing history, the reality of my existence as a writer in the context of current Australian fiction, and not historically notable in any wider sense, I hasten to modestly stress (otherwise 99% of all authors' mentions would be up for erasure). As an aside, I doubt if you would have examined my entry on "The Slap" as closely as you have, if a 2008 author had not used my 1996 title for a similarly themed book that splash-landed in the internet age with attendant connective links, enough to wipe my proud little novel off your map. However, further to those guidelines, I shall in due course (after exhuming several dusty cartons in storage) supply you with a list of book review references from journals and newspapers establishing the priority of "The Slap" and perhaps saving it from Misplaced Pages oblivion, at least. (I have no doubt it will endure in less virtual contexts)
--Blueyonhill 00:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueyonhill (talk • contribs)
- You don't need to get my permission; I just nominated the article for deletion and it was approved. I must say, though, I don't agree with the self-promotion going on here. If the book is truly worthy of its own article, it should be getting created by a person without a personal interest in promoting the book. Now, if you want to re-create the article yourself (or re-create using some other account now that you've revealed your identity), I'm not going to get involved, so you don't have to worry about any further interference from myself. Regardless, I hope you choose to respect our COI policy, now that you're aware of it. Thanks, --JaGa 00:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
The Slap by Roger McDonald
Apologies, I accept being rapped over the knuckles for self-promotion, an occupational hazard of authors. I do not see myself in that category, being "above that sort of thing", but clearly, from the Misplaced Pages point of view, can hardly escape the judgment. I don't want to pretend to be someone else, so shall mull over your advice with more understanding and appreciation of Misplaced Pages's aims, as best I can.
--Blueyonhill 01:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueyonhill (talk • contribs)
- Wonderful. I suspected you were a good faith editor, and am very happy to be proved correct. Thanks much. --JaGa 10:31, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support!
Hello, I hope you're doing fine and I sincerely apologize for this intrusion. I've just read your profile and I saw that you're a learned and open-minded person interested in justice and peace so since you support Tibet I think that you understand very well what are a minorized language and culture (even though you can hardly compare because Tibetans have a situation worse than ours...) and maybe I am not bothering you and you will help us... I'm a member of a Catalan association "Amical de la Viquipèdia" which is trying to get some recognition as a Catalan Chapter but this hasn't been approved up to that moment. We would appreciate your support, visible if you stick this on your first page: Wikimedia CAT. Supporting us will be like giving equal opportunity to minorized languages and cultures in the future! Thanks again, keep fighting against injustice and for peace! I wish you a nice, pleasant and warm summer, Capsot (talk) 10:57, 20 June 2010 (UTC)