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Category Saini People

Greetings, could you kindly explain why Saini people category has been emptied out? Did you perceive WP:SYN or some other violation? Thanks--History Sleuth (talk) 02:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Would you also care to explain why you chose to delete the category Saini Soldiers when it had already passed WikiProject_Biography/Military assessment?--History Sleuth (talk) 02:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Pictore...please note that your speedy delete request for the Saini Soldiers category was declined by a third party edtior. Since I did not hear back from you I have reverted all of your good faith edits save the List of Notable Saini people article that you created. If you have difference of opinion , please contact me on my talk page and we can work together using WP:Consensus. Thanks--History Sleuth (talk) 00:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk and on Category talk:Saini soldiers.Pectore 05:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Read your repsonse. I think your efforts are laudable in a sense and I support it. What do you have feel about http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Jat and many other simular caste categories? Do you plan to uniformly go after all of them? thanks.--History Sleuth (talk) 20:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

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Please note that I recreated this article as a stub using quality references and satisying WP:Notability. thanks.--History Sleuth (talk) 20:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Jat is a caste like any other

Yes. I do plan to go after all of the caste categories. I've heard from some that Jat is an ethnicity, so I think that is more of a CFD sort of option. Rajput too is a tad bit complicated, because they are also a huge royal clan (its very complicated because Hindi speaking North India does not have strong ethnic lines). Smaller, more clear cut categories like Kamboj, Iyer, etc are easier to sniff out.Pectore 22:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Jat ethnicity? Thats all hubris. It is a caste like any other. There are two kinds of castes. Occupational caste and ethnic caste. Jat can be classified as both but it is a caste nonetheless in the Indian social system like Mudliyar, Baniya, Khatri, Kayast--History Sleuth (talk) 00:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)h, etc. If you need references , I can supply them. You can go and look it up on matrimonial sites if you wish as well. Take a look at the following reference and there tonnes of others:

"Yet the same growing awareness of caste can be observed among young Sikhs of the Jat caste, as well as among Hindus and Muslims. Deprecation on the basis of caste can go from the supposedly lower to the higher as easily as vice versa."

• Source : Contesting culture: discourses of identity in multi-ethnic, London, By Gerd Baumann, pp152 Cambridge University Press, 1996

I hope you would go after all the groups uniformly and not selectively make the under represented groups target of your crusade. Thanks.

--History Sleuth (talk) 23:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Good work

I wanted to thank you for the good work you did on List of Saini people. It looks good. I was planning to do it for last one year but never got time. --History Sleuth (talk) 00:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Bali Sacrifice

Bali Sacrifice is not obscure at all. It is practiced by millions of Hindu's and is also a part of the Kshatriya tradition of India. It is a part of the Sakta tradition as well (as well as some Shivite traditions). It is in no way obscure. I am reverting your reversion. Thanks--Sikh-History 07:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

It is part of Sikh tradition too. Nihang Sikhs perform Jhatka after reciting Chandi Charitar section of Dasam Granth.--

Check this out a graphic video shot at Hazur Sahib, one of the most important Sikh shrines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G8gUr9fIKc&feature=related

History Sleuth (talk) 02:28, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

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