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::Well, the first bit should be pronounced more like "clown" (as in the circus) rather than "clan". I was guessing that the programme presenters mispronounced it. I also suspect that it should be "Clann Shomhairle" rather than "Clann Somhairle", in which case, the "sh" would be pronounced like an "h".--] (]) 19:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::Well, the first bit should be pronounced more like "clown" (as in the circus) rather than "clan". I was guessing that the programme presenters mispronounced it. I also suspect that it should be "Clann Shomhairle" rather than "Clann Somhairle", in which case, the "sh" would be pronounced like an "h".--] (]) 19:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
== "Scottish" ==
I think it's tragic that most of the Clann Somhairle now have to suffer being Scottish, when they're really Norse-Irish. It's really sad to see the "chiefs" of Clan Donald (one, Antrim, is not even genuine) all up in this ridiculous Scottish garb complete with sporrans. It's hard to believe these were once the royal ]. They've fallen so far. Being subject to the shit Lords Lyon for their arms and recognition must feel humiliating. And the poor Clan MacDougall look like they're all but defunct, the eventual result of choosing the Scottish mainland, a cultural abyss for which they were too highly born.
At least we have one great branch saved among the Irish, ] (Antrim), whom if you aren't aware, readers, enjoy recognition among Irish princes, where they belong. The seed of Sorley Boy still live well enough, in an Ireland only ruined temporarily. Scotland has been finished since the late 13th century, ] being its last genuine king. No Gaelic king would ever have stolen the royal style of another living dynasty like the pretentious and worthless Stuarts later did. It has been illegitimate ever since. ] (]) 02:26, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
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That's correct, but it reduces to in English. I'll try to work out the IPA for the Gaelic pronunciation and put that first, and then give the current one after it as the English. DinDraithou (talk) 19:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, the first bit should be pronounced more like "clown" (as in the circus) rather than "clan". I was guessing that the programme presenters mispronounced it. I also suspect that it should be "Clann Shomhairle" rather than "Clann Somhairle", in which case, the "sh" would be pronounced like an "h".--MacRusgail (talk) 19:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
"Scottish"
I think it's tragic that most of the Clann Somhairle now have to suffer being Scottish, when they're really Norse-Irish. It's really sad to see the "chiefs" of Clan Donald (one, Antrim, is not even genuine) all up in this ridiculous Scottish garb complete with sporrans. It's hard to believe these were once the royal Rí Innse Gall. They've fallen so far. Being subject to the shit Lords Lyon for their arms and recognition must feel humiliating. And the poor Clan MacDougall look like they're all but defunct, the eventual result of choosing the Scottish mainland, a cultural abyss for which they were too highly born.
At least we have one great branch saved among the Irish, MacDonnell of the Glens (Antrim), whom if you aren't aware, readers, enjoy recognition among Irish princes, where they belong. The seed of Sorley Boy still live well enough, in an Ireland only ruined temporarily. Scotland has been finished since the late 13th century, Alexander III of Scotland being its last genuine king. No Gaelic king would ever have stolen the royal style of another living dynasty like the pretentious and worthless Stuarts later did. It has been illegitimate ever since. DinDraithou (talk) 02:26, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
