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:I am afraid that such low level vandalism from ip's is not sufficient for the article to be semi protected. Misplaced Pages is the "💕 anyone can edit", and we have to just keep clearing up after them. I will put the article on my watchlist, in case our ip friend returns in the near future. ] (]) 15:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC) :I am afraid that such low level vandalism from ip's is not sufficient for the article to be semi protected. Misplaced Pages is the "💕 anyone can edit", and we have to just keep clearing up after them. I will put the article on my watchlist, in case our ip friend returns in the near future. ] (]) 15:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

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{{user13|Mackay 86}}

You've previously had cause to {{diff2|348420664|speak to this editor}} about some "interesting" practices (hosting infoboxes in their userspace). I've just {{diff2|386759707|been asked}} (by {{user0|Begoon}}) to take a look at this editor. Apparently, after you spoke to them they engaged in some bizarre image "work" - downloading images from Commons, modifying them, and then using them in articles here. They've built up quite a list of ], and have been warned about it by, at least, {{diff2|382416306|Begoon}} and {{diff2|382420093|Fastily}}.

More recently, Mackay 86 appears to have discovered templates - specifically, altering them and causing problems on articles transcluding them . {{diff2|386263098|DrKiernan}} and {{diff2|386757456|Begoon}} have both tried to raise this with Mackay 86; the usual response is to blank their talk page.

I'm inclined to issue a short(ish) "attention getting" block, but wondered if you had any thoughts first?

Thanks for your help, ] 16:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

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Request

Would you please ask this editor to remove his accusation of me being a proxy for socks Please inform him if he does not remove it i will seek an RFE against him for breaking his civility parole. Thanks you mark nutley (talk) 20:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I have asked. If there is no response, or a negative one, then you can ask an uninvolved admin to redact it per the Probation. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:40, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
You asked, but said "no evidence presented". On Mark's talk page WMC cited the edit where Mark restored comments by a (since indef blocked) sock account with an edit summary of "rv do a CU first before removing talk page comments, just because the username is pointy does not prove this guy is a sock" which is probably broadly unhelpful. I am not sure what the technical meaning of "proxying for socks" is but restoring edits from an account which experienced users had identified as a clear sock is along the lines of meatpuppeting for a sock anyway and Mark seems to be wrongly asserting every sock is entitled to a CU when most get thrown out on WP:DUCK. --BozMo talk 21:54, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Bozmo, it is beside`s the point if it turned out to be scibaby. Removing talk page posts is against policy and it should not have been removed until the editor was actually blocked. LHVU thank you, could you now ask that editor to remove his new attack on me as proxying for IP`s. And please ask him to refrain from making unfounded accusations in the future. Thanks mark nutley (talk) 22:05, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Mark, I kind of don't agree. Reasonable grounds for suspecting Scibaby socks is enough for an established editor to revert or strike on sight and tag the talk page with "suspected sock of Scibaby". We don't wait for a CU before acting when reasonable grounds exist and it is better to apologise in rare wrong cases than to give encouragement to the nuisance caused by the socks by dialog in the meantime. IMHO restoring sock edits when struck for reasonable grounds should only be done if you have a good reason to think it is not a sock. --BozMo talk 22:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks BozMo. I got confused between this and MN's restoring BLP vio's over at Robert Watson. Well, that makes snarkig a bit harder but: LHVU: how about you bother check up next time you go proxying for MN? (@LHVU, BozMo: I took your comments off my talk page: I think it will be less confusing if instead of a 3-way conversation we just talk here; that way MN won't have to pretend not to be able to speak my name) William M. Connolley (talk) 22:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Per WP:Proxying, you have to be acting on behalf of a banned editor - that is, they request you make an edit you otherwise may not have - to be a proxy. If Mn wants to re-instate an edit on their own initiative, then they can (and that edit can be challenged in the normal manner). Unless it can be evidenced that Mn was requested to make an edit by some banned editor, then it is not proxying and therefore a pa. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Maybe proxying is the wrong word then/ --BozMo talk 22:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I think we may be using the same word in different senses. I'm using "proxying" in the sense than LHVU is "proxying" for MN - i.e., acting as his proxy, i.e., making edits for him. That is what MN was doing - making edits for the Scibaby sock. He wasn't making the edits for himself. And of course (oh you who speak of knowing policy (LHVU, not BozMo)): you'll notice that MN has the policy wrong: removing talkpage comments from socks of banned users is not against policy William M. Connolley (talk) 22:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Incidentally, the comment remains removed and I don't see anyone suggesting, now, that it should go back William M. Connolley (talk) 22:26, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I think "proxying" is quite right here. In article space, sure, adopting a blocked user's edits under your own responsibility is a possibility. But on talk pages, contributions are signed and clearly associated with the user who made them. If another user wants to take on a cause brought by a blocked sock, they can do so under their own name. But you cannot usefully adopt another users personal signed edit. That simply enables block evasion. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
It was on a talk page. The user had not been blocked at the time. If WMC will not remove the comment i will file an RFE mark nutley (talk) 22:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I have no regard for the edit, or its validity, but only for that by noting Mn was proxying he was apparently being accused of violating policy. A more accurate description, such as "re-instating subsequently blocked sock's edit", would have been preferable. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Are RFEs still meaningful? The last one filed against MN for violating his sourcing parole (Watson, again) was effectively closed by LHU as "don't bother me here, do it at arbcom" William M. Connolley (talk) 22:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

As I said at my talk: I removed LHVU's original request, as the triangular conversation was awkward. Here it is for convenience. Note the edit summary an unsubstantiated claim such as sock proxying is a pa, so please remove it. Thank you prejudging the issue and requesting removal William M. Connolley (talk) 22:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Topic ban suggestion

Not that my opinion matters, but I think you have a good idea to topic ban everyone (myself included) from CC/GW pages until the ArbCom is closed. It would of course, upset a good number of people, but I think it is the only way to stop the drama. Just my two cents... GregJackP Boomer! 16:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

(typo?)..."too sense"? LessHeard vanU (talk) 00:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Intelligence

You has it.

I want a lolcat with that description. Happen to know anyone who makes them? :) NW (Talk) 00:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Um... King Crimson had Lol Coxhill, does that count? LessHeard vanU (talk) 00:43, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Iz no floont n kitteh, buz kitteh like beer. -Atmoz (talk) 01:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Helpful as always....

Thank you for this. --Jezebel'sPonyo 20:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Block

I wrote on ANI about an admin who is not as bad as Hitler but needs more experience. I suggested that he reapply for admin in January. This person has stopped meaningful article editing.

Anyway, I am threatened with block.

I, hereby, request a block ONLY if the following instructions are followed:

1. VERY IMPORTANT: Block duration for 72 hours to 1 month (your discretion, please be nice).

2. VERY IMPORTANT: Block reason must be "Self requested block".

3. Page protect my user talk page for everyone (Jimbo Wales can be exempted) and any comments made between this request and your block should be archived, not left in place as I can't be checking constantly or it defeats the purpose of a block.

4. Request that the block begin on July 30th.


Thank you. MVOO (talk) 23:27, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

No valid reason, so sorry no block. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:05, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
I shall decline this request for a self block. It appears that you are seeking to distance yourself from some edits or articles, rather than wanting to take a break from Misplaced Pages, and possibly pre-empting sanctions. If you are trying to stay out of trouble, I suggest the best way is to either stop engaging in the activities that are creating issues, or disengage yourself from WP (you have been advised how to on your talkpage) for a while. I am sorry I cannot see my way to issuing a block presently. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:34, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Matt.whitby

You said; "re your edit to George Harrison

Stop hand nuvola.svg This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits, such as those you made to George Harrison. If you vandalize Misplaced Pages again, you will be blocked from editing. LessHeard vanU (talk) 14:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)"

What are you talking about? I don't believe i've edited that page. Feel free to apologise.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt.whitby (talkcontribs)

Hmmm, is that so? – iridescent 22:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I apologise - now, please do not vandalise that page again. LessHeard vanU (talk) 23:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind...

...that I stole a part of your edit notice on your talk, it seems to explain my bad habits of not responding consistently in a certain place while replying to comments on talk pages. Cheers. Connormah 01:05, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Cool. LessHeard vanU (talk) 09:53, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Notification

Please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Proposed_amendment, and the subthreads above it. You are being notified as you were one of the users who proposed or discussed the original sanction. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Is there any reason...

...that we have to keep putting up with this? 68.28.104.246 (talk) 02:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

This edit is very "telling". You're not a sock of another editor, are you? This brand-new editor seems to agree with you. Jus' sayin'... Doc9871 (talk) 02:50, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps you think that because I have blocked an editor previously, I am more amenable to blocking them the next time? Whosoever you are a sock of, it is not someone familiar with my sysopping. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Patrol

Hi there. Do you have time to please mark this article as patrolled? Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 20:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

It seems to have been marked as such, I cannot see the unpatroled template. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
However, the article appears on the new pages backlog as not patrolled (here). Amsaim (talk) 21:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I found the template, and have now marked it as patrolled. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:14, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your assistance. Amsaim (talk) 21:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Or you can find something else to do."[c.bass onhistalk

cantclimstairsinurweelchair?>"Or] you can find something else to do. "!] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. (talk) Meineke active again as IP 90.184.43.166

Hi Less, it looks like IP 90.184.43.166 is active again. See this edit. See also User talk:90.184.43.166. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 12:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Blocked for a week, with a note that continued vandalism will being longer sanctions. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks and cheers. DVdm (talk) 13:03, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

86.178.177.160

Just a quick note to say that this IP which you hard-blocked is almost certainly a dynamic one. This is part of my day job - hope you don't mind the unsolicited input. The RIPE network entry that whois showed you is for a /10 allocation - a range of more than four-million IP addresses - and the address is listed in the DUL database of dynamic IP ranges used by postmasters. Specifically, this is from the range of addresses used by BT's domestic/small business DSL platform in the UK, used not only by BT but by many of the other companies that sell access using BT's platform. The huge majority (99.999%+) of those addresses will be allocated dynamically. Thparkth (talk) 23:58, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

The same person is back again as 66.81.37.227 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). It looks to me like he is using open proxies. -- ChrisO (talk) 09:16, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
To Thparkth, thanks. I have modified the block to a soft one, so any editor will not be inconvenienced (hopefully the one who used the ip was, at the time). Please feel free to correct my understandings of ip addresses, it is an area where I have poor knowledge. ChrisO, I will take a look and see if there is any point in blocking. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:31, 19 August 2010 (UTC) It seems that this has been addressed. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

rc:moroc-ssyas:npov

mindv aluk/rolbak?-----Please note, I have ] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

:o canaCUpostsuchdata onatalkpg??

You're in Australia using Optus Internet (In Sydney, -----Please note, I have ] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Such information is publicly viewable when an ip address is placed in a Whois lookup page. This can be found on an ip's user or talkpage, alongside their editing history and geolocation details, by any user. CU's are able to determine the ip of a named account, and find this and other information, but are not permitted to divulge such information publicly (and only as required to other holders of advanced permissions). In this case, no policy was broken in noting the general location of the ip editor. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:09, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

a-ta---Please note, I have ] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. (talk) 03:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Ping

I've opened a request for modification of the prior sanction at Misplaced Pages:General_sanctions/Climate_change_probation/Requests_for_enforcement#William_M._Connolley_comment_editing_restriction_modification. ++Lar: t/c 18:13, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I think your comment confused me. Are you supporting the original, the loosened modified version of DF, or some third as yet unwritten version? Thanks. ++Lar: t/c 21:02, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I've made a comment there which you may wish to consider. I note that it might seem like a very long screed, but a lot of light can be found by the end of that tunnel (in the second point anyway). :) I'd have passed this note around to a lot of people, but as I'm out of time at the moment, so I've only passed it to you and BozMO (the only uninvolved admins who have commented in the result section so far). Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

No, I wouldn't

would not have thought this could refer to me... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 11:32, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for that - but I still wouldn't want anyone else to think that, so I will amend my text again. LessHeard vanU (talk) 11:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

The Original Podstar

The Podstar
For all your efforts in cheering up Bishonen. --RexxS (talk) 18:04, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Why, thank... LessHeard vanU 19:30, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Award

The Tightrope Award, representing the amazing Charles Blondin carrying Jimbo Wales safely across the Niagara Falls.

The Tightrope Award is bestowed on LessHeard vanU for his daring use of "brilliant" and "Tony Sidaway" in the same sentence. Bishonen | talk 18:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC). And don't you edit conflict me, Rexx! Hello, Little Stupid! B.

...you muchly! User talk:LessHeard vanU 19:30, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Input please

I'd appreciate your input and feedback regarding my proposed proposed remedy/enforcement found here. Thanks. Minor4th 17:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm... I shall, I think. Nobody will much like it, including me, but it needs to be said. I shall necessarily need to compose myself. LessHeard vanU (talk) 19:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Request/suggestion/whatever

Would it be possible for you to condense this down to perhaps a third of its present length? I think there are some important points in there that are struggling to reach the surface under the weight of verbiage. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 22:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Dude, that is the condensed version! (Neither can I speak in anything than my own voice.) I will reduce the amount of content on the page, however, by redacting most. LessHeard vanU (talk) 23:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Climate change/Proposed decision

Please note that contributors should not be voting here. I'd appreciate it if you'd remove your !vote (and reword if appropriate). What we are looking for is constructive criticism (such as alternate wordings or alternate remedies) . If you aren't around I may remove your !vote myself, and you might want to then modify your comment. Thanks. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Dougweller (talk) 15:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

What !vote? LessHeard vanU (talk) 19:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
I found it, after the fact. Oh well, I suppose I was just following practice in that section. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:13, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Oversight access

Hello LessHeard vanU. I'm informing you that I have turned on the oversight tools on your account. Should you have any questions feel free to ask me, another steward or another local oversighter. Regards, --Dferg (talk) 19:29, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - I look forward to receiving the "When and Where to Wave the Big Flags (and How Not To)" pamphlet. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:04, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Please don't

I thiught I'd made it pretty clear you were unwelcome on my talk page. But just to be clear: you aren't welcome William M. Connolley (talk) 18:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

You have made it pretty clear that consider me unwelcome on any page you have ever edited, but you have never said so specifically before. You now have in regard to your talkpage, so I shall refrain from providing you with a sounding board on what others outside your "tightly focussed" gatherings may consider as being part of the wider range of opinion upon editing the project. LessHeard vanU (talk) 19:06, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome on my talk page any time, LHvU. And so is WMC. You probably will like it there. As for WMC's prohibition banning you from his echo chamber, it of course is inoperative if you need to place a warning, sanction, or block notice there. As you well know. ++Lar: t/c 14:33, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
You are all welcome on my talkpage too. Polargeo (talk) 14:37, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Mine too :) Congrats on oversight LHVU. Minor4th 17:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Barber

Noroton does not deserve the courtesy of being referred to by whatever username he happens to be using at the moment (he uses more than one). For over three years, this individual has been taking every opportunity to attack me as both Noroton and JohnWBarber; however, the worst of the attacks were committed while under the "Noroton" guise. As part of my defense against this harassment, I feel it is important that everyone is aware that these users are one and the same. I therefore decline your request. I will, however, clarify the username issue by editing my comment accordingly. -- Scjessey (talk) 22:23, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Time's up

Won nun dread and twenny secs thing's on this page. Time for archive 'fur teen', me finks. LOL. Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Userpage concerns

Don't know if your new oversight skills are needed here, but I just sent you an e-mail asking you to look at the creation of a user page by a minor revealing their name, location, and school. Viriditas (talk) 01:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Original discussion found here. Viriditas (talk) 01:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for that. My view is that there is not sufficient detail for Oversight to be concerned, and rev/deleting would suffice - however, I shall put the question to those more experienced when I am on my home pc to see what I should do in this instance. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:41, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
After taking advice I have deleted the page, meaning other admins can view and undelete; it is unlikely that any admin would or even could make use of the content outside of usual WP practices. I have explained the deletion to the editor, as being so people would not be prejudiced by the editors youth. Thanks for the tip-off, anyhoo. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to deal with this. Viriditas (talk) 11:51, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Another one. Viriditas (talk) 10:46, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

and another from a few days ago. It also includes pictures in the personal website link. Dr.K.  10:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

It is also to be noted that per WP:CHILD such pages could also be used to elicit responses from other children. Dr.K.  11:11, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Thanks, both deleted. As admins are people with the communities trust I consider that we AGF that none would use or distribute the deleted details, so deletion suffices. I am happy to delete, or suppress if that is required, any personal details by minors or other potentially vulnerable individuals, but would ask that if I am not immediately available that you request deletion by any admin - the less time the information is available the better. Admins should be able to determine if oversight is required also. Again, thanks for your attention in these matters. LessHeard vanU (talk) 11:16, 12 September 2010 (UTC) addendum If there is going to be a few reports here, I think changing the section header to a more general one will help in protecting the privacy of these instances; so I have. LessHeard vanU (talk) 11:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
    • (edit conflict) Many thanks LHvU for the fast response. I agree completely. The faster the time such information gets deleted the better. Unfortunately it doesn't work this way all the time. Take care. Dr.K.  11:24, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Deleted category history

Hi Mark, hope you are well. Could you help me with the history of deleted category Category:Recipients of the Silver Buffalo Award please? Particularly, creation history, and if any speedy tags were added and by whom. DuncanHill (talk) 07:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

This cat was created 7 September 2010 by AusTerrapin and nominated for speedy deletion by Are You The Cow Of Pain?, the same day as being previously deleted per discussion. It was deleted under G4, per this previous discussion. I trust this suffices. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
You sure it wasn't speedied twice? Because Nyttend speedied then restored, then Fastily speedied it again. Was it tagged once or twice? DuncanHill (talk) 11:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Um, yeah, tagged twice by RUtheCofP? - the second following the undelete by Nyttend. You might have to check if there is any discussion between Nyttend and RUtCoP?, because cat deletion does not depend on the content (which appears to be the reason for undeleting) but the purpose of the cat, and it may be that the undelete was considered incorrect and RUtCoP "represented" the original request rather than make a new one. I suppose a ???? (forgot the acronym - challenge of deletion) might be useful if RUtCoP has no good explanation for the second speedy. You may also gently enquire whether Fastily noted there was a previous speedy req, in case he is aware of any circumstances. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:37, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Already under discussion, topics include what CSD actually says, should admins talk to other admins when undoing their admin actions, do they need to look at deletion/recreation history when deciding to undo other admin actions, should editors re-tag for speedy after a speedy has been declined (especially if they've previously been told that speedy does not apply to this type of case), etc. Thanks! DuncanHill (talk) 12:59, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Special Delivery

File:WCS Beebe Barton 600.jpg As requested one (slightly used) bathysphere. Shell 11:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
;~) LessHeard vanU (talk) 16:09, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

It's possibly just me, but ...

Could you have a look at User talk:Mdcooper2. Firstly, the user name seems kind of familiar to me (was there a Mdcooper1 as it were?); secondly he/she is clearly not a 'newbie' based on the recent edits; and thirdly, he/she seems intent on turning Sherman Robertson's article into a promotional fansite. I created this article and do not wish to appear overly protective. However, I have already posted a cautionary message on the user's talkpage, which does not seem to have any effect. Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I blocked the editor for 24 hours for edit warring, and in my notice commented that the account was familiar enough with WP to revert rather than retype (nobody can retype twice in a row without errors). Since I am also convinced that this is not a newbie and is possibly a SPA I think any further transgressions, especially by an ip or a new account, after the sanctions expire should be taken to AIV. LessHeard vanU (talk) 00:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Same editor, same article, same 'promotional' editing. This is despite an e-mail correspondence with the user, as follows:

To: "Martin Cooper" I did not action the block, and have no powers to remove it. Whilst you may have excluded the external links, statements such as "without doubt the best live performing blues act you will ever likely see" is purely a biased point of view, and without a source to support it, has no place in an encyclopedia.

Misplaced Pages articles are meant to be balanced, neutral in tone and sourced. They certainly should NOT aim to look like a promotional press release. Can I suggest that, when the block expires, you moderate your future editing to comply with Wikipeda editing policy. Equally, you would be best advised to heed the advice given by other more senior editors, rather than ploughing on regardless.

Derek

--- On Tue, 17/11/09, Martin Cooper wrote: From: Martin Cooper Subject: Sherman Robertson Misplaced Pages Page To: derekrbullamore Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 9:15

Hi Derek,

I see that the Sherman Robertson page I was editing now has a block against any re-edits. I have removed all links to the external links (MySpace and YouTube) as per your request.

However, I do not see why I have been blocked from re-editing. Can this be lifted please.

Many thanks, Martin

You just can not tell some people !?! Sorry to lumber you with this.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 17:49, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I have blocked again, this time for 3 days, and left them a message. Hopefully they will now comply with WP's preferred manner of article writing. BTW, I have redacted the email address details of the copy correspondence and rev/del'eted your and my edits - I am assuming you have permission to copy the rest of the email - as this private information should not be publicly viewable. It is best not to disclose private information unless specifically agreed by the other party (which is why I removed part of your email addy also given). Cheers, LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:41, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, and your comments are duly noted. I should have been much more circumspect, despite wishing to point out that the blocked user had been in correspondence, and received advice on this matter. Apologies.
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Blocking request

Please Block WMC: . This is so bad. He want others to go down with him. I reverted but self reverted. Hopefully you can restore the material. Nsaa (talk) 21:57, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

As ever, there needs to be compliance with WP policy - WP:BRD applies here; if a bold addition is reverted then the matter needs to be discussed until a consensus is formed one way or another. As far as I can see (and I did look) WMC has not violated policy, so there is no question of blocks. I see that WMC has initiated discussion on the talkpage, so that is where you need to argue the case for inclusion. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:20, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes I see that. Why are people getting tired of Misplaced Pages? This is an obvious case where some politically motivated people do everything to keep a one world understanding in the article. why didn't he just expanded my section instead of blatantly removing it three times ( WP:3RR? )? Nsaa (talk) 22:46, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

User_talk:Beyond My Ken

With all due respect, I think you are jumping the gun with regard to this user. I can see how that might happen, coming as it does on the heels of the AN/I discussion regarding Herostratus. But this seems to me to be a mostly unrelated dispute, and furthermore one that is only in its beginning stages: this is a normal part of the revert-and-discuss cycle. Threatening blocks over such edits is premature; it's not like this is even a multi-day edit war. Maybe you're being a little hard on the guy? Nandesuka (talk) 22:33, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

The point about consensus, and it being non-negotiable, was ignored when I posted it on the talkpage - and WP:BRD does not permit more than one revert. I think that BYK has a valid point regarding the quality of the image, but that does not permit him or anyone to ignore policy. I would note that I am giving him the opportunity to self revert, and that I did not template a long standing contributor. No more edit warring, no need for blocks. LessHeard vanU (talk) 23:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Siouxsie

A few anonymous users have been editing badly since a couple of months now and it's enough. I'd like now this page blocked and reserve for properly registred users. Thank you. Carliertwo (talk) 16:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.172.75.103 (talk)

I am afraid that such low level vandalism from ip's is not sufficient for the article to be semi protected. Misplaced Pages is the "💕 anyone can edit", and we have to just keep clearing up after them. I will put the article on my watchlist, in case our ip friend returns in the near future. LessHeard vanU (talk) 15:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

User:Mackay 86

Mackay 86 (talk · contribs · logs · block log)

You've previously had cause to speak to this editor about some "interesting" practices (hosting infoboxes in their userspace). I've just been asked (by Begoon (talk)) to take a look at this editor. Apparently, after you spoke to them they engaged in some bizarre image "work" - downloading images from Commons, modifying them, and then using them in articles here. They've built up quite a list of deleted contribs, and have been warned about it by, at least, Begoon and Fastily.

More recently, Mackay 86 appears to have discovered templates - specifically, altering them and causing problems on articles transcluding them . DrKiernan and Begoon have both tried to raise this with Mackay 86; the usual response is to blank their talk page.

I'm inclined to issue a short(ish) "attention getting" block, but wondered if you had any thoughts first?

Thanks for your help, TFOWR 16:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)