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{{Unblock|1=OK, I realize I was stupid this time. A week ago I refactored others' comments (removed comments, which I've completely stopped with since). Now I did the most stupid thing in the world by starting an AN discussion without ever thinking what would happen; I thought consensus would be to unblock the user, but I was apparently '''wrong'''. Disruptive editing? ]] (]) 20:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)}} | {{Unblock|1=OK, I realize I was stupid this time. A week ago I refactored others' comments (removed comments, which I've completely stopped with since). Now I did the most stupid thing in the world by starting an AN discussion without ever thinking what would happen; I thought consensus would be to unblock the user, but I was apparently '''wrong'''. Disruptive editing? ]] (]) 20:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)}} | ||
:I probably wouldn't have blocked you for it, but your post to AN was just another in a long series of meddling behaviour - sticking your nose where it doesn't belong. Either you ''just don't get it'', or you're ''intentionally testing your limits''. The outlook isn't good in either case. –]] 20:43, 13 October 2010 (UTC) | :I probably wouldn't have blocked you for it, but your post to AN was just another in a long series of meddling behaviour - sticking your nose where it doesn't belong. Either you ''just don't get it'', or you're ''intentionally testing your limits''. The outlook isn't good in either case. –]] 20:43, 13 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Blocked == | |||
Heymid, I've blocked you for one week. | |||
When HJ {{oldid2|384400989|unblocked you}}, it was because you had made several promises. In particular, you had promised that you would: | |||
# stop refactoring other's comments | |||
# follow consensus, and seek consensus when needed, before making controversial edits | |||
Since then you've continued to refactor other editors' comments. You've done this on several occasions, resulting in {{user0|David Biddulph}} giving you {{diff2|388938785|this warning}}. Throughout all this I've tried to advise you - both on your talkpage and via email - to stop. After the incident that led to David's warning, I very nearly blocked you then - indeed, it was David's warning that stopped me. You will remember that I left {{diff2|388943559|this message}}. | |||
I've also advised you several times to stay away from {{user0|Protector of Wiki}}'s talkpage. I can dig out diffs if necessary, but I'm sure you'll remember. Despite this, after {{user0|Giftiger wunsch}} posted {{diff2|390452934|this at POW's talkpage}} you came along shortly after and {{diff2|390469030|''refactored''}} GW's comment. | |||
POW is being mentored by {{user0|UncleDouggie}} and {{user0|Sonia}}, with the intention that POW would request an unblock when they felt the time was right. The decision to make an unblock request, the decision as to where to make that request - that decision was POW's, UncleDouggie's, and Sonia's decision. {{diff2|390469025|This}} was, as other admins have commented above, dumb. You should have sought consensus before doing anything as controversial as this. | |||
Heymid, you need to pay attention to what other editors are telling you. You've ignored advice and instructions too many times. It's disruptive. It's breaking the promises you made when you were last blocked. I hope when your current block expires you'll pay more attention and be less disruptive. ] 20:48, 13 October 2010 (UTC) |
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You do realize...
...that taking the unblock request to WP:AN probably did more damage to it, and to the reputation of the editor than anything else possibly could have. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:52, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed, and it was yet another in a long history of meddlesome behaviour. Taking an unblock request to WP:AN should be done by someone familiar with the editor who is willing to present a case for them, not just say "hey guys, what do you think?" –xeno 19:58, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I don't understand what you mean. As he was blocked due to an ANI discussion he has to be unblocked through the same process. Do you mean that I should've not started the AN discussion and instead let an uninvolved administrator just review their unblock request? HeyMid (contributions) 20:00, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- As the first-responder astutely pointed out, you should've left it to their mentors. –xeno 20:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yup. And now dozens of admins have reviewed him and his actions - have viewed them as poor - and it's neither going to go well for him, and has probably pulled your reputation down as well. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- As the first-responder astutely pointed out, you should've left it to their mentors. –xeno 20:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- They mean you should be focussing on article-work and leaving Protector of Wiki's talkpage alone. Not doing this, and not doing this. Crikey, Heymid, how many times and in how many ways do we need to say this? Keep your head down, focus on article work, don't mess around with talkpages. TFOWR 20:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
OK, here is the truth: Yes, I did understand the risk of TFOWR accusing me for this, but I decided to take the risk by being bold. HeyMid (contributions) 20:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- Pardon my bluntness: you've done some dumb things in your Misplaced Pages career, but this was the dumbest that I can recall. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:12, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've done far more dumb things than this one, see my contributions a week ago. Also, I believe that it was not a must for everyone to comment on that AN thread. And it's up to you whether you wanted to support or oppose. I'm not sure if I've done a mistake (unblock request may've been declined anyways). HeyMid (contributions) 20:17, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
And now TFOWR blocked me... HeyMid (contributions) 20:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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- I probably wouldn't have blocked you for it, but your post to AN was just another in a long series of meddling behaviour - sticking your nose where it doesn't belong. Either you just don't get it, or you're intentionally testing your limits. The outlook isn't good in either case. –xeno 20:43, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Blocked
Heymid, I've blocked you for one week.
When HJ unblocked you, it was because you had made several promises. In particular, you had promised that you would:
- stop refactoring other's comments
- follow consensus, and seek consensus when needed, before making controversial edits
Since then you've continued to refactor other editors' comments. You've done this on several occasions, resulting in David Biddulph (talk) giving you this warning. Throughout all this I've tried to advise you - both on your talkpage and via email - to stop. After the incident that led to David's warning, I very nearly blocked you then - indeed, it was David's warning that stopped me. You will remember that I left this message.
I've also advised you several times to stay away from Protector of Wiki (talk)'s talkpage. I can dig out diffs if necessary, but I'm sure you'll remember. Despite this, after Giftiger wunsch (talk) posted this at POW's talkpage you came along shortly after and refactored GW's comment.
POW is being mentored by UncleDouggie (talk) and Sonia (talk), with the intention that POW would request an unblock when they felt the time was right. The decision to make an unblock request, the decision as to where to make that request - that decision was POW's, UncleDouggie's, and Sonia's decision. This was, as other admins have commented above, dumb. You should have sought consensus before doing anything as controversial as this.
Heymid, you need to pay attention to what other editors are telling you. You've ignored advice and instructions too many times. It's disruptive. It's breaking the promises you made when you were last blocked. I hope when your current block expires you'll pay more attention and be less disruptive. TFOWR 20:48, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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