Revision as of 14:51, 22 October 2010

Per discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:DYK#Time's almost up, the one week trial of the dates of the nomination sections being in order of oldest-to-newest, versus newest-to-oldest, has been extended for a further week, after which a final decision will be made.

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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

DYK criteria

How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

   To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

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   To add a comment: |comment=

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Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
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An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article    = Example
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 | hook       = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author     = User
 | nominator  =
 | image      = Example.png
 | rollover   = An example image
 | alttext    = Description of the image
 | comment    =
}}

• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
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How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, or may suggest new hooks. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
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	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

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Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on October 15

State of Alabama v. State of Georgia

• ... that in State of Alabama v. State of Georgia in 1860, the U.S. Supreme Court defined what a river bed was?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

• Source for the hook fact is the court ruling. Is there an independent source showing the ruling created the definition and indicated by the hook as opposed to merely borrowing an existing definition from a different source? --Allen3  16:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Fever Night aka Band of Satanic Outsiders

• ... that pre-production for the psychedelic horror film Fever Night aka Band of Satanic Outsiders was begun the same day the writer/director team graduated from college?

Created by Adamtheclown (talk). Self nom at 17:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref verified. However, the section, "Critical reception" needs to be rewritten in an encylopedic manner, not quoting each source one after another, but summarizing the main points and maybe putting in a quote here and there. Yoninah (talk) 22:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Rong Qiqi

• ... that according to a popular myth, the recluse Rong Qiqi (pictured) once got the famous Chinese philosopher Confucius to ask him how a man so poor and frail as he could be happy?

Created by --Hongkongresident (talk) 17:22, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 (Just in case the first is a mouthful): ... that according to a popular myth, the famous Chinese philosopher Confucius once had an enlightening encounter with the poverty-stricken, elderly recluse Rong Qiqi (pictured)? --Hongkongresident (talk) 17:35, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

• • Since the article doesn't say that Rong Qiqi was intentionally trying to get Confucius to ask him the question, I'd prefer to phrase the original hook as follows: ALT2: ... that according to a popular myth, the famous Chinese philosopher Confucius once asked the elderly recluse Rong Qiqi (pictured) how a man so poor and frail as he could be happy? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
    • That sounds fine. Let's go with that.--Hongkongresident (talk) 06:25, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
      • "famous" is a peacock term and needs to go - otherwise ALT2 looks OK. Philg88 (talk) 03:27, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
        • ALT3: ... that according to a popular myth, the Chinese philosopher Confucius once asked the elderly recluse Rong Qiqi (pictured) how a man so poor and frail as he could be happy?--Hongkongresident (talk) 07:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

John Moir

• ... that despite having never played basketball until after high school graduation, John Moir led Notre Dame to win the national championship and was named the national player of the year in his first season at the school?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 15:41, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. However, hook is over 200 characters. What do you think about describing these achievements:
• ALT1: ... that although he began playing basketball only after high school, Notre Dame forward John Moir broke every single school scoring record set by three-time All American Moose Krause in the 1930s? Yoninah (talk) 22:18, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Chuck Stewart

• ... that in the 2,000 album cover photos he shot, Chuck Stewart tried to capture his subjects in as flattering a way as possible, saying "I didn't want them picking their nose or scratching their behind"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

• There is nothing unusual about someone taking flattering photos for album covers. Suggested alt:

• ALT1 ... that jazz photographer Chuck Stewart tried to capture his subjects in flattering poses, saying "I didn't want them picking their nose or scratching their behind"? Gatoclass (talk) 04:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 16

Keith Elias

• ... that American football running back Keith Elias graduated from Princeton University with 21 Princeton Tigers records and 4 National Collegiate Athletic Association I-AA records?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 04:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• Note that this qualifies for expansion based on both a 15th and 16th start date. Since it is taking me a while to expand this, I am nominating it for the later date. Please wait as long as you can before putting this on the main page (but make sure it gets on before the end of the month for the WP:CUP).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:34, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think there is much more I can do for this article. You can put it on the main page now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Glee: The Music, The Rocky Horror Glee Show

• ... that Jayma Mays will perform her audition song, "Touch-a, Touch-a, Touch-a, Touch Me", for the Rocky Horror tribute episode of Glee and its accompanying extended play?

5x expanded by Yvesnimmo (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• Note: unsure about tense that should be used in the hook: the episode will air October 26, but the EP was released today, October 19. Yves (talk) 21:10, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Kenneth Nichols

• ... that when Kenneth Nichols became the youngest major general in the United States Army in 1946, Omar Bradley warned him not to ask for quarters at Fort Myer, Virginia because other officers were jealous?

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length Ok. I can't see the source. Can AGF, but. The article doesn't say "jealous", it says criticism, and if this hook is to be used then this should be rectified in the article. Materialscientist (talk) 22:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

How about we trim off the last few words:

• ALT1: ... that when Kenneth Nichols became the youngest major general in the United States Army in 1946, Omar Bradley warned him not to ask for quarters at Fort Myer, Virginia?

Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:56, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Better (mysterious :), but I feel a (very brief) explanation is needed in the article why that criticism. Materialscientist (talk) 22:23, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that is all my source has. :( Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:00, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Any chance for another hook? I'm afraid ALT1 won't do without elaborating it in the article. Materialscientist (talk) 23:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Alotenango, Jocotenango

• ... that while both towns are located in Sacatepéquez Department, Guatemala, Jocotenango has a coffee museum, and coffee grown in Alotenango received an international award?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 19:53, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• The hook seems awkward to me. Reworded it slightly for ALT1. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
• ALT1: ... that Jocotenango, Guatemala has a coffee museum, and coffee grown in Alotenango, also located in Sacatepéquez Department, received an international award?

Awaaz Foundation

• ... that it was Awaaz Foundation’s advocacy against noise pollution in India that forced the government to make rules and implement it?

Created by Sachinvenga (talk). Self nom at 15:33, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• The article, like the hook, needs a serious copy edit before it can be reviewed. Yoninah (talk) 23:22, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, Please give me some time. -- . Shlok _{talk .} 13:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Outline of motorcycling

Dodge Tomahawk

• ... that the Outline of motorcycling includes the most expensive motorcycle in the world, the Dodge Tomahawk which costs $550,000 (£342,554 in 2010)?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Uh... I don't think you can really use an outline for a DYK in this context, you know? DS (talk) 00:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

The fact relates to the bike itself.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Philg88 (talk • contribs)

Ashta Nayikas

• ... that Khandita (illustrated) is an enraged heroine in Indian arts, whose lover cheats with her and spends the night with another woman?

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the Ashta Nayika depicts eight archetypes of women affected by romance in distinct ways? DS (talk) 00:59, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Boshears Skyfest

• ... that the 2001 Boshears Skyfest was canceled because of the September 11 terrorist attacks?

Created by My76Strat (talk). Nominated by My76Strat (talk) at 00:36, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• Length, sourcing and history for article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 16:14, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

30th Battalion (Australia)

• ... that even though it was disbanded three times, the Australian 30th Battalion (pictured) fought in the First and Second World Wars?

Created by AustralianRupert (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 17:37, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• Date, link, hook ref verified. Good to go. Re pic: Not sure if it has a copyright. Could the administrator review the picture file? Thanks. Yoninah (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Irene Jerotich Kosgei & Irene Mogaka

• ... that Irene Kosgei, despite injuring her knee at a drinks station early in the women's marathon at the 2010 Commonwealth Games, edged compatriot Irene Mogaka to become the first Kenyan woman to win a Commonwealth marathon title?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 14:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Eleanor Gates

• ... that Eleanor Gates (pictured) wrote The Poor Little Rich Girl which became a film for Mary Pickford and later Shirley Temple?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 09:26, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• .(alt).. that Eleanor Gates (pictured), who wrote seven Broadway plays, had to leave her second husband when they found out they were not married? Victuallers (talk) 17:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. C'mon, there's no comparison: ALT1 is much better. I removed the quotes from "husband" — he was her husband until they found out. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Gurusai Datt

• ... that Indian badminton player Gurusai Datt took to the sport after watching 2001 All England Champion Pullela Gopichand play at a local stadium?

Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Length hook and history OK. but cited reference does not confirm hook.

• Would you like to combine this with your nomination for Gopichand Badminton Academy for a double hook? Yoninah (talk) 23:37, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello again. Thank you for confirming the hook. I'd prefer a separate hook given that articles from India don't get featured often in the DYK. Separate visibility (read as for a longer time) will only help my cause of attracting new editors in a better way. I hope that you'll understand. Mspraveen (talk) 02:51, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

• Fair enough. I removed the commas from the hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:16, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Paleopsephurus

• ... that the extinct paddlefish Paleopsephurus was first described from the Cretaceous Hell Creek Formation?

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Virginia v. West Virginia (1911)

• ... that in Virginia v. West Virginia in 1911, the Supreme Court of the United States ordered the state of West Virginia to pay one-third of the state of Virginia's pre-Civil War debt?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Herbie Hewett

• ... that English cricketer Herbie Hewett (pictured) walked off the field before play began in his penultimate first-class appearance, after receiving insults from the crowd?

• ALT1:... that Herbie Hewett (pictured) captained Somerset County Cricket Club unbeaten against county opposition in 1890?

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 19:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Hamburg Historic District (Davenport, Iowa)

• ... that the Hamburg Historic District was settled by Germans, mostly from Schleswig-Holstein?

Created by Farragutful (talk). Nominated by The Utahraptor (talk) at 17:57, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Tonbridge Priory

• ... that the last remains of Tonbridge Priory were demolished in 1842 to make way for the building of Tonbridge railway station?

5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Manila Jai Alai Building

• ... that Manila's Jai Alai Building, a building designed by Welton Becket, was demolished in 2000 to give way to a building that was never erected?

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

• All checked out. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 13:05, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Andrew Green (ghost hunter)

• ... that ghost hunter Andrew Green claimed to have only ever seen one ghost, that of a fox terrier, in his 60 years of research; and he wasn't even sure about that?

Created by Panyd (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

• Alt 1 ... that ghost hunter Andrew Green was a staunch humanist who didn't even believe in life after death? Panyd 17:29, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Amos Tirop Matui

• ... that 2006 National Capital Marathon winner Amos Tirop Matui was disqualified and received financial compensation due to a misplaced barrier on the course?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 15:57, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

To‘rtko‘l

• ... that To‘rtko‘l, the former capital of Karakalpakstan, Uzbekistan, was destroyed overnight in 1942 by the Amu Darya river?

• Comment: ref. 4 for the capital and refs. 6 7 for destroyed overnight in 1942 (those are web-copies of respectable sources). Materialscientist (talk) 06:26, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 06:26, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

• All checked out, Russian refs AGF. Tweaked the hook a bit. Good additions! -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 13:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Mycena maculata

• ... that the mushroom Mycena maculata (pictured) is named after the reddish spots it develops with age?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that the mycelium of the mushroom Mycena maculata (pictured) glows?

Personally I don't think the first hook is that interesting, after all every species is named after some characteristic or another, whereas bioluminescence is relatively rare. Smartse (talk) 22:41, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok with me. Sasata (talk) 15:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Eighteen Mile House

• ... that in mid-1863, the Eighteen Mile House near Harrison, Ohio experienced an attack by Morgan's Raiders?

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 05:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

• Expansion and date verified, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. Perhaps "experienced an attack by" should be "was attacked by". —Bruce1ee 09:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Domaine Armand Rousseau

• ... that in the 1930s, Domaine Armand Rousseau was one of the first producers to bottle its own wine in Burgundy?

Created by Camw (talk). Self nom at 03:58, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Vaikal

• ... that in Constantinople in 1465, a group of Albanian officers were tortured and their bodies fed to the dogs on Mehmed II's orders following their capture after the Battle of Vaikal?

Created by Gaius Claudius Nero (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

• Article doesn't have inline citations --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:45, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

• Okay, I put them in.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 23:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Mount Tabor (biblical)

• ... that the strongest aspect of the Canaanite army, its chariots, proved to be its weakness during the biblical battle of Mount Tabor?

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 23:22, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on October 17

Siege of Badajoz (1658)

• ... that during the 1658 Siege of Badajoz between Portugal and Spain, Spanish forces at the garrison of Badajoz were either dressed in rags or nude?

Created by ElBufon (talk). Nominated by Bejinhan (talk) at 10:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Poole v. Fleeger

• ... that the United States Supreme Court ruled in "Poole v. Fleeger" that the states of Kentucky and Tennessee had properly entered into an agreement establishing a mutual border between the two states?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Virginia Street Bridge

• ... that the Virginia Street Bridge in Reno, Nevada is also known as the "Bridge of Sighs" because legend has it that divorcees would throw their wedding rings from the bridge into the Truckee River?

Created by Guoguo12 (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• Looks good to me. - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 17:29, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Tillingbourne Bus Company

• ... that a fall in bus passenger numbers in Hampshire between 1999 and 2001 was attributed in part to the collapse of the Tillingbourne Bus Company?

Created by Alzarian16 (talk). Self nom at 12:40, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Bernard Bosanquet (cricketer)

• ... that Bernard Bosanquet (pictured), the inventor of the googly in cricket, was the first person to score two centuries and take ten wickets in the same first-class match?

• ALT1:... that cricketer Bernard Bosanquet (pictured) invented the googly after playing a table top game using a tennis ball?

5x expanded by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 22:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

R.J.Q. Adams

• ... that the American historian R.J.Q. Adams details the conflicting views of Neville Chamberlain and Winston Churchill in his 1994 work, British Appeasement and the Origins of World War II?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

ALT=... that the American historian R.J.Q. Adams has written definitive biographies of British statesmen Arthur Balfour and Bonar Law?

Venues of the 1936 Summer Olympics

• ... that the Bay of Kiel is the venue at the 1936 Summer Olympics to serve as a venue for the 1972 Summer Olympics, hosting sailing events for both?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• I would phrase this as ALT1: ... that the Bay of Kiel was the only venue at the 1936 Summer Olympics to also serve as a venue for the 1972 Summer Olympics, hosting sailing events for both? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:36, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• Works for me. Chris (talk) 12:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Sisquoc Formation

• ... that the Sisquoc Formation supports the largest diatomite mining operation in the world?

Created by Antandrus (talk). Nominated by The Utahraptor (talk) at 22:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Church of St Michael, Princetown

• ... that the Church of St Michael (pictured) in the Dartmoor town of Princetown is the only church in England to have been built by prisoners of war?

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 21:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Article length & date, hook length and fact all good. Sasata (talk) 02:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Johnny Dyer

• ... that the American electric blues harmonicist, Johnny Dyer, on his Rolling Fork Revisited album, did reworkings of songs by another Rolling Fork native, Muddy Waters?

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Xeronema callistemon

• ... that the Poor Knights Lily resembles a giant toothbrush?

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 09:17, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• Verified. Another cool hook. As you did, I think leaving the picture out of this one is best, more mysterious.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Kenneth R. Mladenka

• ... that Kenneth R. Mladenka was among those political scientists in the 1980s who pushed successfully for inclusion into the discipline of urban case studies and quantitative analysis?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Regency of Algiers

Old algiers 16th century.

• ... that the Regency of Algiers (pictured) was founded by Barbarossa around 1525?

Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Self nom at 03:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• Reference 1, the one that supports the hook, wont open. Is it in Japanese?Thelmadatter (talk) 16:56, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• I re-checked the reference, and it does open for me. I added another reference too. I also added "circa" to the date, as authors variously date the estabishment between 1519-1529. Thank you! Per Honor et Gloria ✍ 21:37, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Etruscan shrew

• ... that the Etruscan shrew (pictured on a human thumb) is the smallest known mammal by weight?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• . Prose size expanded from ~950 to over 6000 today. "Smallest mammal" is multiply sourced. I have my doubt about some of the sources, but the first two are good (one per WP:AGF, the other is online). --Stephan Schulz (talk) 19:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

If the image is used, I suggest the less cropped one is used as this shows the scale. I've added "on a human thumb" to the hook. (Not normally a sucker for cute furry things, but this may be an exception!) Smartse (talk) 10:43, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually "on a human thumb" is needed for the cropped (right image). Non-cropped one is obvious without it. Hard to tell which image is better. Materialscientist (talk) 10:47, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

The cropped one makes it look less like a slug. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Jean Charles Faget

• ... that Jean Charles Faget, a New Orleans physician, discovered the Faget sign—an important early diagnostic warning sign of yellow fever?

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 01:37, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Article length & date, hook length fine, AGF on offline source. Added some punctuation (mdash) to hook. Sasata (talk) 02:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Turkey-Morocco relations

• ... that Turkey-Morocco relations (pictured) started as early as the 16th century, with the expansion of the Ottoman Empire into Northern Africa?

Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Fluorescent glucose biosensors

• ... that the prevalence of diabetes is the prime drive in the development of biosensors, such as Fluorescent glucose biosensors?

Created by Squidonius (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Três Marias Dam, Marmelos Zero Power Plant

• ... that the Três Marias Dam's power plant is named after Bernard Mascarenhas, who built Marmelos Zero, South America's first major hydroelectric power plant?

Created/self-nom--NortyNort (Holla) 03:52, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Al Wahda Dam (Morocco)

• ... that the Al Wahda Dam is the largest dam in Morocco and was described as "the second most important dam in Africa after the High Aswan dam"?

Created/self-nom--NortyNort (Holla) 10:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• The link for reference 2 appears no longer valid, but accepted in good faith. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 13:24, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Harris Lenowitz

• ... that The Collection of the Words of the Lord, a work by the 18th-century Jewish false messiah Jacob Frank, was translated into English by Harris Lenowitz?

Created by La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1... that Hebraic studies specialist Harris Lenowitz has translated the works of 18th-century false messiah Jacob Frank from Polish into English? DS (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm enjoying reading The Collection of the Words of the Lord thanks to Lenowitz, and just gave Misplaced Pages some links to the free online copy of the book. ALT1 also looks good to me. BTW, Jacob Frank is one of the mascots of Misplaced Pages's sister project, Wikiversity. --La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk) 00:50, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Lift Me Up (Yes song)

• ... that after battling over who could use the name "Yes", the musicians involved reconciled and released "Lift Me Up", a number-one

mainstream rock song about homelessness? Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 21:16, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• All good. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 21:49, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Marivagia stellata

• ... that the Marivagia stellata, a new genus and species of jellyfish, was identified in the summer of 2010?

Created by Poliocretes (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Marivagia stellata, was first described in 2010 after being found off the coast of Israel, but may have originated in the Indian Ocean? Smartse (talk) 22:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

As the genus is currently monotypic I'll move the article to Marivagia per the convention (sorry don't have a link but know this is correct). Smartse (talk) 22:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Lindy, Nebraska

• ... that Lindy, Nebraska was named for Lucky Lindy?

Created by Ammodramus (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 13:46, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Make It Easy

• ... that "Make It Easy", a Yes song recorded in 1981, went unreleased for ten years but became a mainstream rock hit in 1991 and was retroactively added to their 1983 album 90125?

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 14:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• I'll have to check the linernotes of YesYears later, but I trust the info. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 13:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 18

Protemblemaria perla

• ... that the specific name of the chaenopsid blenny Protemblemaria perla refers to both its place of discovery and to the white bands on its body?

Created by Wilhelmina Will (talk). Self nom at 09:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Nidaros (newspaper); Bør Børson

• ... that Johan Falkberget's satirical story Bør Børson was a feuilleton in the newspaper Nidaros before being released as a book?

5x expanded by Oceanh (talk), Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 13:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Posthumous Fragments of Margaret Nicholson

• ... that the Posthumous Fragments of Margaret Nicholson was a hoax collection of poems, actually written by Shelley and Hogg, in which they attacked the concept of monarchy??

Created by 76.234.154.210 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 20:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

List of Shakespeare authorship candidates

• ... that more than 50 different people have been nominated as the true author of the William Shakespeare plays (pictured)? "

5x expanded by Tom Reedy (talk). Self nom at 18:23, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• Prose size is only 386 characters. Please note that "list" items in a list article do not count towards the 1500 characters required. See WP:WIADYK for more info. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• I think the biggest problem with this list article was summed up by user:hamiltonstone when he wrote (see point 8) "no one should be on this list without a citation that demonstrates that the person is in fact proposed by a reliable source to be a candidate for the authorship. Not even one in five now meet that very basic requirement. Only if their candidacy has some significant coverage in the literature should it then be discussed in the article's body text."

Most of these candidates come from a list found in one source, and that source failed to even discuss these candidates. Many others seem to be OR. It seems that the minimum requirement should be precisely what was already noted above - "Only if their candidacy has some significant coverage" - The great majority of so-called candidates on this list fail miserably on that basic requirement. Smatprt (talk) 20:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the source further, this issue only gets worse - it appears this source only goes into any real detail on one candidate, not the 58 represented in this list article. Good grief. Smatprt (talk) 20:13, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I fail to see why it is relevant that the "source only goes into any real detail on one candidate, not the 58 represented in this list article.". The list is a list of all those who are known to have been proposed. At least one of them (Anne Whateley) almost certainly didn't even exist. But that's neither here nor there really. Paul B (talk) 12:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Paul, it's no great mystery why it's being disparaged and a comment being dragged in from another discussion, but all sources are WP:RS and prominently discuss the authorship topic, not just as a passing mention. Tom Reedy (talk) 12:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

The remark that it failed to satisfy Hamiltonstone's observation is wrong. HS made that of a draft version, and, if I recall, in forking off this article TReedy then supplied the footnotes, as HStone asked for. (b)There is no WP:OR infraction involved (c) I see there is a problem with the wordage. That is easy to fix, simply by introducing a modified, rewrite of the usual introductory paragraph that exists on several other pages, but unfortunately the three editors are voluntarily refraining from editing mainspace pages until an arbtration issue is resolved, if ever! (d) Most importantly, for your consideration, this figure was established, as far as we know, by wiki, is the most up-to-date figure available to date, since the old sources couldn't count what has occurred since 2004, and missed a few. We simply totalled up what all reliable sources established as candidates, and the figure is 75. That is not WP:OR, but simply fidelity, as per notes, to the available lists and references. It is a wiki first, and would, I think, be a shame not to get profiled eventually in a DYK notice, given the world's fascination with Shakespeare. Nishidani (talk) 13:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I have adapted the current intro to the main SAQ article for use as a preamble to the list. I hope it is acceptable. Paul B (talk) 14:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

To respond about the notability of the various candidates, the great majority of these listed were simply copied from one list (in one source) directly into this article. That in itself does no make them notable. How many of these candidacies have been discussed in detail... anywhere? Just because one person, somewhere in time, in an interview, or a bar, or in some passing comment said "I think that so and so wrote Shakespeare's plays" - well, that hardly makes the candidate notable as required on these pages. Smatprt (talk) 15:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

That is simply answered. 68 of the 75 candidates have wiki pages on them. All, except Ann Whately, were notable in their day, and history has decided they are notable now. We don't make conjectures over why things are included in sources: we simply cull the best sources on a question, and harvest it for wiki. It is not our fault if the academic specialists on the subject cite that number of candidates. I repeat, this is a wiki first, as far as I know of, and that, I think, on its own, is important in considering whether this should figure as a DYK.Nishidani (talk) 16:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

It is not necessary to cite the original nominations, as most of them are non-RS anyway. The list is from an impeccable academic source that discusses authorship in a prominent way, and as such conforms to WP:RS. All the other names are sourced from reliable sources, although they're not all necessarily academic works, as is the source he is challenging in a misunderstanding of WP:RS. And their credibility is beside the point. None of their cases are credible by scholarly, academic standards. An infinite number of zeros = zero. Tom Reedy (talk) 16:41, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Date and prose size (now at 3243 characters) are fine. However, the hook fact does not have an inline citation. As for the above concerns, I'll leave it for others more knowledgeable on the subject to decide their merits. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Done. Tom Reedy (talk) 22:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• In answer to Nishidani, I'm afraid its not that simple - that the individuals are themselves notable is hardly a valid reason for them to appear in this article. Are they a notable candidate? (That is the question). Tom admits that most of the candidacies are from non-RS sources. In any case, a simple search in google scholar would probably settle this. Simply take each name along with "Shakespeare authorship" (or some such) and see what the results are. Then reference the actual source. If the results support your assertion, then I will gladly withdraw my opposition. Otherwise, you are just copying one list into another. Smatprt (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

No, I did not say that. The article is sourced from WP:RS sources. They were all 75 of them nominated in non-RS sources, including the "notable" ones such as Oxford, Marlowe, et al, because by their nature as fringe promotional material they cannot be considered RS. Those nominations were then written about in RS journals, books and magazines, which are all used to reference the article. Whether the nominees themselves are "notable" as Shakespeare candidates is beside the point. The title of the article is not List of notable Shakespeare authorship candidates.

I hope that makes it clear. BTW, this is not the place for an authorship discussion or polemics. Tom Reedy (talk) 23:43, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Tom, everyone is aware that you would like to stifle my participation on these pages. Be that as it may, are you saying that any candidate, no matter how far-fetched, and no matter if any mainstream critic ever detailed their candidacy (the way they have for some in this article), that they all belong on this list? Smatprt (talk) 00:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Of course thery do. The list is supposed to be as complete as possible. That's the whole point of it. Paul B (talk) 12:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Doyers Street (Manhattan)

• ... that Doyers Street, in New York City's Chinatown, once known as the "Bloody Angle," was notorious for having more murders than any other street in the U.S.?

ALT1... that that Doyers Street, in New York City's Chinatown, was known as the "Bloody Angle" because of frequent gang murders early in the 20th Century?

5x expanded by ScottyBerg (talk). Self nom at 14:08, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

U.S. Post Office (Le Roy, New York)

• ... that a local resident paid part of the construction cost of the Le Roy, New York, post office (pictured)?

• ALT1:... that the clock tower and limestone facing on the Le Roy, New York, post office (pictured) are unique among small postal buildings in New York?
• Comment: Fivefold text expansion

Created/expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Lac-John, Quebec

• ... that the Innu and Naskapi of the Lac-John Reserve in northern Quebec, Canada, initially lived in poverty without water, sewage, electricity, schools, or a medical facility?

Created by P199 (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Shapley–Folkman lemma

• ... that the "approximate convexity" of the Minkowski sum of nonconvex sets is quantified by the Shapley–Folkman lemma?

Created/expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 15:57, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• I've added the essential "that" at the start of the hook. Also, I like this unusual style, it's nice to have some variety even if the hook itself isn't immediately understandable to most readers including myself. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• David Eppstein's custom-made (& donated) graphic is the finest illustration of the Shapley–Folkman lemma in world literature. (Note my earlier nomination of this article, with the existing picture of Kenneth J. Arrow, before David included his graphic.) Thanks, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 22:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

This seemed to have been nominated by KW twice (?!) so I've merged the sections and made the second hook an ALT. No opinion on which is better. Smartse (talk) 23:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Starr's corollary to the Shapley–Folkman lemma was proved by an undergraduate student of Kenneth Arrow?

Jon Folkman

• ... that Paul Erdős challenged Jon Folkman to solve mathematical problems immediately after Folkman's surgery for brain cancer?

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 10:48, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Comment: Is it possible for an editing wizard to crop the elongated picture of Erdös? Thanks,Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 16:02, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Agree w/the comment.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:29, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Done: The picture had already been cropped on Wikimedia. :) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 00:48, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Earth's shadow

• ... that the Earth's shadow (pictured) can be observed during twilight hours?

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Invertzoo (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• All checked out. But isn't the night Earth's shadow too?!? -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 21:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• Ha ha, yes, you are right, I will try to see if I can make that point in the article. Invertzoo (talk) 13:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I added a little bit in the intro to make the point you mentioned and added a couple of See Also. Hope this is OK. Invertzoo (talk) 14:06, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• Glad you added that explanation. Nice article! -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 12:51, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

City Car (Concept)

• ... that prototypes of the CityCar, the ultra-small urban electric car designed by MIT Media Lab, are being built in Spain to be field tested by mid 2011 in Boston, Singapore, Taiwan and Florence?

5x expanded by Mariordo (talk). Self nom at 23:02, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Jim Fuchs

• ... that in a span of 14 months in the early 1950s, American Jim Fuchs won 88 consecutive meets and set four world records in the shot put?

5x expanded by Sholom (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Alternative: that while competing in the shot put for 14 months in 1949–1950, American Jim Fuchs won 88 consecutive meets and set four world records? Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 21:57, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

List of Chinese military texts

• ... that Chinese military texts have influenced strategists ranging from members of the Communist Party of China to American and European generals like Douglas MacArthur?

Created by Hongkongresident (talk). Self nom at 22:53, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

James Clark (physician)

• ... that Sir James Clark (pictured), physician to Queen Victoria, has been implicated in contributing to the deaths of both John Keats and Lady Flora Hastings?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 22:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

St Mary the Virgin, Tarrant Crawford

• ... that the Church of St Mary the Virgin (pictured) in Tarrant Crawford, Dorset, England is all that remains of the medieval Tarrant Abbey?

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Francisco Vicente de la Espriella

• ... that the first Foreign Minister of Panama, Francisco Vicente de la Espriella, is the great grandfather of former Costa Rican Abel Pacheco?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Round Church, Preslav

• ... that the 10th-century Round Church (pictured) in the medieval Bulgarian capital Preslav has been called "one of the most impressive monuments of medieval Bulgarian architecture"?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 19:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Hook ref towards the end of "Background".

• ALT1: ... that the 10th-century Round Church (pictured) in the medieval Bulgarian capital Preslav features a monumental westwork claimed to be a Carolingian influence?

• Comment: Hook ref towards the end of "Location and style".

• ALT2: ... that the interior of the 10th-century Round Church (pictured) in the medieval Bulgarian capital Preslav features medieval inscriptions in three alphabets?

• Comment: Hook ref in the first paragraph of "Epigraphy".

— Toдor Boжinov — 19:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Clitopilus byssisedoides

• ... that the mushroom Clitopilus byssisedoides, formally described as new to science in 2010, was discovered growing in a German hothouse?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 17:00, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• Verified Smartse (talk) 21:51, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1948 Winter Olympics

• ... that all five venues of the 1928 Winter Olympics in St. Moritz were reused as venues when the Winter Olympics returned to the city twenty years later?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Sunbaker

• ... that Max Dupain's 1937 photograph Sunbaker was described as "perhaps the most famous and admired photograph in Australia"?

Created by Mattinbgn (talk). Self nom at 08:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 14:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• I am not familiar with the process but why isn't the picture featured or valued?--NortyNort (Holla) 11:53, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• We shall soon find out - Misplaced Pages:Picture_peer_review/Sunbaker. Bigger digger (talk) 20:57, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Duncan & Miller Glass Company

• ... that the Duncan family, known for producing Duncan glass, donated a 17 room Queen Anne mansion to Washington & Jefferson College, which is now used as the college's President’s House?

Created by GrapedApe (talk). Self nom at 05:00, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• - Sorry to be pedantic, but apparently Walter Hudson Baker donated the house, he was married to a Duncan, so the hook is maybe not quite right. How about:

ALT 1: ... that the Duncan family, of Duncan glass fame, built a 17 room Queen Anne mansion that was later donated to Washington & Jefferson College and is now used as the college's President’s House?

• Otherwise everything is good, nice article. Bigger digger (talk) 20:12, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• I'll take it! That is indeed better. Thanks! (I changed "which" to "that").--GrapedApe (talk) 20:22, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go with ALT 1, original struck through for clarity. I read this guide but still no clearer on which/that! Bigger digger (talk) 21:55, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• But then read this and I agree. Bigger digger (talk) 22:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Thunder Rock (film)

• ... that Walter Winchell described the 1942 British film Thunder Rock as "a glowing fantasy that lights up the dark corners of many current issues"?

• Comment: Hook fact in ref #3. Need a few more British film articles here!

Created by Draggleduck (talk). Self nom at 01:40, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 19

Lancaut

• ... that the suggestion that Lancaut, on the border between England and Wales, may be the site of a medieval leper colony is supported by the unusual number of medicinal herbs found in the churchyard?

Created by Andy Dingley (talk). Nominated by Ghmyrtle (talk) at 14:51, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Dual system of government

• ... that Cho-sid-nyi means means "both Dharma and temporal" but may also be translated as "dual system of religion and politics"?

Created by JFHJr (talk). Nominated by Spongie555 (talk) at , 22 October 2010 (UTC)

1945 Japan–Washington flight

• ... that the 1945 Japan–Washington flight made by three American air generals in three Boeing B-29 Superfortresses was the first nonstop flight from Japan to the United States?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Charles Coffin Harris

• ... that New Hampshire-born Charles Coffin Harris (pictured), who served as cabinet minister and judge in the Kingdom of Hawaii, also had a business selling fern hair?

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Self nom at 22:33, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1948 Summer Olympics

• ... that two venues of the 1948 Summer Olympics served as host venues for the 1908 Summer Olympics while two more 1948 Summer Olympics venues will serve as host venues for the 2012 Summer Olympics?

• ALT1:that cars were brought into the Empire Stadium venue to illuminate the last two events of the decathlon event?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Howard Russell Butler

• ... that Howard Russell Butler (pictured), who persuaded Andrew Carnegie to build Princeton's rowing lake, was later employed to paint a solar eclipse in 1918?

• Comment: alts welcome for this renaissance man

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 13:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I have worked on Solar eclipse of June 8, 1918 which was an odd article. It was about 200 chars of text and then lots of boilerplate text and pics called in. See it yesterday. If you agree that its "expanded" then bold it so readers can see the "new" article - if not then its fine as it is.Victuallers (talk) 16:41, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Amanita rubrovolvata

• ... that extracts of the red volva Amanita can cause high blood sugar in mice?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:33, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• Can't check the source as it is in Japanese. I've added "extracts of" to the hook as this is what the article states. Just in case you're not watching it, can you check the talk page too? Smartse (talk) 21:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Gonzalo García Gudiel

• ... that the "chivalrous" request of Cardinal Gonzalo García Gudiel that his body be brought his native city of Toledo for burial, and its fulfillment by his former scribe, forms the starting point for a contemporary romance?

Created by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Athletics at the 1952 Summer Olympics – Men's shot put

• ... that Parry O'Brien won the gold medal in the men's shot put at the 1952 Summer Olympics in Helsinki as part of a four-year long streak in which he won 116 consecutive meets and set 17 world records?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Henry Sandham

• ... that Canadian artist Henry Sandham (pictured) won an award at the 1878 Exposition Universelle for a composite photograph consisting of 300 separate pictures?

Created by Howcheng (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Naheed Nenshi

• ... that Naheed Nenshi became the first Muslim mayor of a major Canadian city when he was elected mayor of Calgary in the 2010 civic election?

5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Expansion from redirect, credit should also go to User:Bdell555 if this is promoted. Note that I have also nominated it at WP:ITN, though I'd be a tad surprised if it got promoted there. Resolute 00:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• ALT: "...that Calgary's new mayor Naheed Nenshi successfully used social media websites to score a surprise win in the 2010 municipal election?" (This seems the more important legacy of his campaign and vote) Resolute 13:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Bjørnsletta (station)

• ... that Bjørnsletta Station of the Oslo Metro is so named because a bear was spotted there in 1852?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• - thanks Victuallers (talk) 13:25, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Excuse me for expressing concerns over an already reviewed article. The hook may be catchy, but it's in many ways inaccurate. First of all, to me "there" implies that a bear was spotted at the station, which is obviously untrue. Also, the station wasn't really named so because of the bear spotting: the area was named after the bear spotting, and in turn the station was named after the area. Finally, the hook says "a bear" was spotted, wheareas the article speaks of "bears". Which is true? — Toдor Boжinov — 16:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• To take the first thing last: in Norwegian (which the source is in) it is not possible to distinguish between a bear and several bears (at least not the way the source is written). For the rest, how about " ... that Bjørnsletta Station of the Oslo Metro was named for a bear sighting in 1852?" Not quite as catchy, so I've you've got a better idea up your sleeve, feel free to play it. Arsenikk 17:46, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• Ah, the lack of a different plural form in Norwegian never occurred to me. "Bear sighting" is a clever getaway :) There's still the confusion that the station was directly named after the event rather than after the surrounding area though. I would suggest something like "... that the name of Bjørnsletta Station of the Oslo Metro is ultimately derived from a bear sighting in 1852?". We're losing even more catchiness, but at least in my book factual accuracy is always more important. — Toдor Boжinov — 18:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Its a bit obsessive... whats the difference between "derived" "ultimately derived" and "named after" ... factual accuracy is important in articles, IMO hooks can make do with being merely true.... and there was a bear there in 1852. Whether it had family and friends present or was about to catch a metro train the hook does not say. Victuallers (talk) 13:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but the hook was not true to begin with. "There" cannot mean anything but the station in the original hook, and there was no station in 1852 for a bear to be spotted *there*. Having reread the paragraph, there's actually no area/residential neighbourhood/whatever named Bjørnsletta (I don't know where I got that), so the station is directly named after the bear spotting. I'm verifying the alt hook (Google Translate for ref) and striking the original. — Toдor Boжinov — 07:56, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Nava Applebaum

• ... that relatives of Nava Applebaum, who traveled to Jerusalem for her wedding, attended her funeral instead?

5x expanded by Brewcrewer (talk). Self nom at 20:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Note. The article was expanded from the 9th to the 13th. I did not bring this to DYK until today because it was nominated for deletion. The Afd closed today as a Keep. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 20:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Checks out for length (both length of article, and length of hook). I think that in the future it may be considered better to nom the article ASAP, even when it is at AfD (in which case approval will await the close of the AfD, but at least it will be closer to publication at that point.) But someone else should chime in to say whether I have that right or not.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:23, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• Length, sourcing and expansion for article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 14:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Elizabeth Finn Care

• ... that the charity Elizabeth Finn Care was established in 1897 as the Distressed Gentlefolk's Aid Association?

• ALT1:... that the Distressed Gentlefolk's Aid Association was renamed to Elizabeth Finn Care in case people were "scared away by the words distressed and gentlefolk"?
• Comment: Not sure which is better as I've been looking at this for two days. First is snappier, Second has a bit more explanation.

Created by Bigger digger (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• Verified and prefer the first "snappier" hook.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 21:36, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

BSA A65 Star

• ... that in 1967 the BSA A65 Star (pictured) helped BSA win a Queens Award to Industry and by 1969 BSA were responsible for 80% of the British motorcycles exported?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I think we are stretching the meaning of "helped" as it implies "caused" but OK Victuallers (talk) 13:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Super Skidmarks

• ... that the video game Super Skidmarks allowed players to race caravans and wheeled cows?

Created by Bridies (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

1366 Technologies

• ... that 1366 Technologies has created a technique to cast solar cells directly from molten silicon, cutting costs for such cells by 40% and making power generated using the cells cheaper than from coal?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:02, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not really happy that the "making power generated using the cells cheaper than from coal" is referenced to the company president - of course he is going to say that! I'm pretty sure that solar cells are currently far above 40% more expensive than coal. Maybe I'm overly strict, but the whole article is rather advert like at present IMO. Smartse (talk) 21:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what to say. I can assure you that I have no connection to the company other than being fascinated by an article about the firm published in The New York Times and had enough interest in the subject to create an article. I will try to conceive of an alternate hook. Alansohn (talk) 22:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't suggesting that you are linked to the company, just that we need to be careful be repeat a company's claims without checking them to see if they are realistic. Are there any more independent sources that have comments from people unrelated to the company, but knowledgable in the field? I'm just always a bit suspicious when there is a sudden flurry of news articles, as they are almost certainly based on press releases from the company, and the journalists might not have done much research themselves. I'd welcome anyone else's comments, as like I said before, I may be overly strict when it comes to things like this. Smartse (talk) 00:50, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I see you're going through the article and an additional pair of eyes is always appreciated. I tried to include multiple sources to address any imbalance that might appear in a single source, but I will work on better sourcing and an alternate hook. Alansohn (talk) 01:06, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Laptev Sea

Icebreaker Krasin

• ... that the icebreaker Lenin became trapped in the ice of the Laptev Sea in 1937 and was rescued in 1938 by another icebreaker (pictured)?

• Comment: See "Fishery and navigation" and this ref.

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• Verified. I tweaked the hook slightly Smartse (talk) 20:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Branchinecta gaini

• ... that the fairy shrimp Branchinecta gaini is the largest freshwater invertebrate in Antarctica?

• Comment: Although the ref. for this hook requires a subscription, the fact is visible as the first sentence of the introduction on the first page preview given by the publisher at doi:10.1007/s00300-008-0494-0.

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 06:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Melvin Lane Powers

• ... that in "one of the most spectacular homicide trials ever", a jury acquitted Melvin Lane Powers and his aunt – and lover – Candy Mossler for the murder of her husband?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:47, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Metacarcinus starri

• ... that the extinct crab Metacarcinus starri from Washington state is related to the graceful rock crab?

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:36, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Leroy Wright

• ... that Leroy Wright was the first repeat winner of the NCAA Division I men's basketball rebounds title, achieving the feat in 1959 and 1960?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

• Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 15:22, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Mary Malcolm

• ... that Mary Malcolm, one of the BBC’s first female announcers, was a grand-daughter of Victorian actress Lily Langtry, mistress of King Edward VII of England?

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 02:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 20

Achalt

• ... that Ardelve has a notable population of Grebes?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), PamD (talk), and Iridescent (talk). Self nom at 13:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Achanalt

• ... that Sir Arthur Bignold, MP for Wick Burghs was the proprietor of the Achanalt Inn?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Aberchalder

• ... that a railway station once served Aberchalder but the line closed in 1935?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 11:19, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Adobe Systems, Inc. v. Southern Software, Inc

• ... that Adobe Systems, Inc. has successfully sued for the copyright infringement of a computer font, even though typefaces are not protected under U.S. copyright law?

Created by ToastIsTasty (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Wesley Bennett

• ... that Wesley Bennett scored 21 points to lead Westminster College to a 37–33 victory over St. John's University in the opening game of the first college doubleheader played at Madison Square Garden?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Mac Morgan

• ... that in the requiem mass for John F. Kennedy in 1964 Mac Morgan (pictured, by Norman Rockwell) performed the bass solo of Mozart's Requiem ?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 11:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• (shorter).. that in the requiem mass for John F. Kennedy, Mac Morgan (pictured) performed the bass solo of Mozart's Requiem ?

Not sure Rockwell adds to hookiness and makes it tricky to read Victuallers (talk) 13:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for improved wording, comma removed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Odd Grythe

• ... that in 1960 Odd Grythe hosted the first show after the official opening of Norwegian television, Startskuddet går?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• Verified. Arsenikk 13:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I Hear You, I See You

• ... that "I Hear You, I See You", the second season premiere of the comedy-drama series Parenthood, marked the first of several appearances by William Baldwin?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Brison D. Gooch

• ... that the historian Brison D. Gooch researched the Crimean War and concludes that Great Britain and France practically ignored their ally, the Ottoman Empire, in the two-year fight against Russia?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Useless Parliament

• ... that the Useless Parliament withdrew from London to Oxford because of bubonic plague?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 23:06, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• New article, long enough. Just surprised that this isn't a dab page! Smartse (talk) 20:34, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

My Week with Marilyn

• ... that Michelle Williams was the only actress that producers met with for the role of Marilyn Monroe during casting for the upcoming film, My Week with Marilyn?

• ALT1:... that Julia Ormond was given the role of Vivien Leigh in the upcoming film, My Week with Marilyn after Catherine Zeta-Jones turned it down?

5x expanded by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Princess Eugenia of Leuchtenberg

• ... that because his wife Princess Eugenia Maximilianovna (pictured) was a Russian princess, Duke Alexander of Oldenburg was the Russian nominee for the Bulgarian throne?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 21:56, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that despite her French title and ancestry, Princess Eugenia Maximilianovna of Leuchtenberg (pictured) was born and raised in Russia, and was entitled to the rank Imperial Highness?

• Date and length verified, AGF on hook references. — Toдor Boжinov — 12:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Maxwell Street Jimmy Davis

• ... that American electric bluesman, Maxwell Street Jimmy Davis, remained a regular performer on Chicago's Maxwell Street for over 40 years?

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

St John the Baptist's Church, Wakerley

• ... that the capitals of the Norman chancel arch of St John the Baptist's Church, Wakerley, Northamptonshire, (pictured) are said to be "some of the finest in England"?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Steven Girvin

• ... that Yale theoretical physicist Steven Girvin is working with experimentalist colleagues on building a quantum computer?

Created by SPat (talk). Self nom at 18:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Louis F. Bantle

• ... that Louis F. Bantle saw U.S. Tobacco's income rise tenfold to $1 billion led by sales of smokeless tobacco, telling managers "we must sell the use of tobacco in the mouth and appeal to young people"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

P. V. Sindhu

• ... that Indian badminton player, P. V. Sindhu, reported on time at the coaching camps despite traveling 56 kilometres (35 mi) on a daily basis?

Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

St Cuthbert's Church, Holme Lacy

• ... that most of the memorials in St Cuthbert's Church, Holme Lacy, Herefordshire, (example pictured) are to the Scudamore family?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Eric Joisel

• ... that The New York Times provided plans for constructing the wet-folding origami sculpture of a rat created by Eric Joisel, but warned readers that "no lay person should even contemplate the hedgehog"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• Verified. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:52, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Althea Garrison

• ... that Althea Garrison, who was elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives as a Republican, is believed to be the first transgender or transsexual state legislator in the United States?

Created by Metropolitan90 (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• • Please note that Garrison is not a current candidate for office; as discussed in the article, she lost in the primary for her most recent bid for office last month. Also, if editors here believe that this hook is too controversial or otherwise too sensitive to be used as a DYK for an article about a living person, I will defer to their judgment. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

She lost the primary => she is not a candidate => I have no objection. DS (talk) 00:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Rudolf of Geneva

• ... that Count Rudolf of Geneva performed the act of homage to his overlord, Peter II, Count of Savoy, in an orchard outside of a castle in 1263?

Created by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

William VI of Montpellier

• ... that Lord William VI of Montpellier (1121–49) looked out for the interests of the merchants of his town, since his revenues depended on theirs?

5x expanded by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Unión General de Trabajadores de Ecuador

• ... that the Ecuadorian trade union centre U.G.T.E. was legally recognized only after twelve years of existence?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• Why is that significant? It seems like a long time. Grsz 04:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

It's a curiosity of English idiom that "only after" means the opposite of "after only". Thus, the hook is expressing that existing for 12 years before being recognised, is indeed a long time. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Temple Israel of the City of New York

• ... that since it was incorporated in 1873, Temple Israel of the City of New York has had only five senior rabbis?

• ALT1:... that the current Brutalist synagogue building of Temple Israel of the City of New York was completed in 1967?

Created by Jayjg (talk). Self nom at 01:46, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I prefer the first version, but find either acceptable.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I like the word "Brutalist". :-) Jayjg 00:49, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Everybody Wants You

• ... that Billy Squier's number-one mainstream rock hit "Everybody Wants You" has been performed by Damone, The Unband, Ringo Starr & His All-Starr Band, and players of Guitar Hero 5?

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Bo Shepard

• ... that Bo Shepard and Norman Shepard are the only siblings ever to have both coached North Carolina Tar Heels men's basketball?

Created by Remember (talk) along with User:Jrcla2 and User:Rikster2. Self nom at 17:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Bonham's Case

• ... that one academic commentator described Dr. Bonham's Case simply as an "abortion"? Ironholds (talk) 21:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 05:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Rodrigo Rivera Salazar

• ... that Rodrigo Rivera Salazar, Colombia's new Minister of Defence started working in politics when he was only 20 years old as a Councilman in his native Pereira?

Created by Mijotoba (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 21

Venues of the 1952 Summer Olympics

• ... that the Tennis Palace venue that hosted some of the basketball games for the 1952 Summer Olympics in Helsinki, was later converted into an art museum?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 14:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Macau

• ... that the Battle of Macau of 1622 was the only battle on Chinese soil to be fought between two European powers?

Created by Deadkid dk (talk). Self nom at 07:22, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Rusty Zinn

• ... that the American electric blues guitarist and singer-songwriter, Rusty Zinn, also recently worked with Sly Dunbar and Boris Gardiner?

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 08:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Barnum’s Kaleidoscape

• ... that Barnum's Kaleidoscape was the first Ringling show to be held under a tent since 1956 and also its first one-ring presentation in more than a century?

• ALT1:... that Kaoru Ishibashi and Zac Colwell first met when hired for the orchestra of Barnum's Kaleidoscape and subsequently formed the band Jupiter One?

Created by Dgabbard (talk). Self nom at 22:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Crumstone Irma

• ... that World War II search and rescue dog Crumstone Irma barked differently depending on whether those buried by rubble were dead or alive?

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• Date, expansion and hook fact all check out. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

UDFy-38135539

• ... that the galaxy UDFy-38135539, first imaged during the Hubble Ultra Deep Field survey, is the furthest object in the universe yet discovered?

Created by Carlossuarez46 (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• This is on the main page in In The News now, so it's not eligible. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:47, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Oxon Hoath

• ... that five High Sherrifs of Kent lived at Oxon Hoath (pictured), a former manor house at West Peckham?

5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 15:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Frankie Lee Sims

• ... that American guitarist Frankie Lee Sims is regarded as "one of the great names in post-war Texas country blues"?

Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 12:37, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Elisenberg

• ... that at Elisenberg, Oslo is the underground railway station Elisenberg Station, which was only partially finished and never taken into use?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• All good. Arsenikk 12:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Einar Johannessen

• ... that when Einar Johannessen was suspended from NRK television because of payments in his secondary job, the decision was overturned by the Ministry of Culture?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• Verified. Arsenikk 13:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Wormsley

• ... that in the churchyard of St Mary's Church, Wormsley, Herefordshire, (pictured) are the chest tombs of the writer Richard Payne Knight, and of his brother, Thomas, an expert on apple trees?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 08:05, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: that the churchyard of St Mary's Church, Wormsley, Herefordshire, (pictured) contains the tombs of classicist Richard Payne Knight and his horticulturalist brother Thomas? DS (talk) 14:45, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Jameela Jamil

• ... that Channel 4 music presenter Jameela Jamil was struck by a car at the age of 17 and told she might never walk again?

5x expanded by Chzz (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Note to reviewers; mag confirming this is not officially online, but there is a scan you can check here.  Chzz  ►  00:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Longhead catshark

• ... that the longhead catshark is the only known cartilaginous fish that normally has both male and female reproductive systems?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

1. New Article:

Operation Damocles

• ... that many former Nazi rocket scientists were employed in Egypt's rocket program in the 60s, and were targeted by Israel in Operation Damocles, a campaign of letter bombs, assassinations and abductions?

Created by Factomancer (talk). Self nom at 10:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length and hook fact all check out. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 22

Munzur Valley National Park

• ... that a hydro dam was built by a state agency within the borders of the Munzur Valley National Park in Turkey violating the existing laws for its protection?

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

St Peter's Church, Northampton

• ... that St Peter's Church, Northampton is considered to be "the most outstanding Norman church in the county" of Northamptonshire?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Targeted Killing in International Law

• ... that the book Targeted Killing in International Law argues support in the Western world for targeted killing increased following the September 11 attacks?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hemigrapsus estellinensis

• ... that until 1962, a salt-water crab lived in the Texas Panhandle, 500 miles from the sea?

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 06:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Mycoplasma laboratorium

• ... scientist at the Craig Venter institute have created a bacterium with a synthesised genome?

5x expanded by Squidonius (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Interpretive science

• ...that interpretive science is a normative understanding of the scientific method contrary to positivist science?

Created by Terra Novus (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Acheron class torpedo boat

• ... that the Acheron class torpedo boat along with the Avernus were sold separately after they were joint together to become part of the Commonwealth Naval Forces?

Created by Shem1805 (talk). Nominated by Minimac (talk) at 10:26, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For October 29, 1AM London time

Dragan Tesanovic

• ... that the undefeated Dragan Tešanović makes his North American debut tonight in the Bellator promotion?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 22:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

For 31 October, Hallowe'en

• The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Paracas Textiles - New alt hook

I found a new picture of the distorted skull of a mummy that these textiles were wrapped around. I've added the new hook in the holding area and new pic but left a message here so that anyone who wants to look can go and see/ approve/ comment etc Victuallers (talk) 20:17, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Ben Cooper, Inc.

• ... that Ben Cooper, Inc., the "Halston of Halloween", said it sold a scary 4 million Halloween costumes in 1990?

- Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Ben Cooper, Inc., the "Halston of Halloween", said it sold a scary 4 million Halloween costumes in the United States in 1990?

- Hook corrected to show where costumes were sold. - Tim1965 (talk) 19:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

• "Halston" means nothing here ... you also have "High Priest of Halloween" ... I'd tic that? oops OK! Victuallers (talk) 07:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

• Halston means a lot in the fashion world. I've wikilinked it. (Don't forget to sign your post!) - Tim1965 (talk) 01:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

• Only in places where there's a JC Penney. Trust me, that subclause just doesn't work outside the US, and to be honest it's redundant, it could just be struck out entirely. Or as Victuallers says, the "high priest" version is a ready-made alternative that needs no knowledge of US culture, and thus is a better hook. WTGR Tim, you really need to think a bit more globally - 50% of en.wiki users are outside the US, and that proportion is growing. Le Deluge (talk) 08:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

• It doesn't appear, Le Deluge, that you know who Halston was. He was internationally famous (he designed Jacqueline Kennedy's iconic pillbox hat outfit, which had worldwide recognition), and was well-known throughout Europe and portions of Asia. His recognizability is perhaps more time-bound (who knows who he is today?), but the quote was from 1979 (when he was still a worldwide icon of high couture and not a budget-conscious caricature as he was at the end). Accusing someone of ethnocentrism is, I don't think, an appropriate response to the proposed hook (especially if you don't know that person, or their contributions). If you are concerned that hooks are not worldwide in nature, I can only respond that 1) That is not a DYK criteria and 2) 17 of the accepted 22 hooks for this year do not involve worldwide topics. A far more appropriate criticism of the hook would be that it does not say where Ben Cooper, Inc. sold 4 million costumes (a very legitimate issue which I will correct). - Tim1965 (talk) 19:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
• I added an image here. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to scale down as well as I'd like. There are other images from this company on WikiCommons, if anyone wants to take a look. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I too find that "the Halston of Halloween" doesn't add anything, especially since it was Ben Cooper the person who is called that, and not Ben Cooper the company, and distracts from what the hook is supposed to be about. Also, why is selling 4 million costumes scary? Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 13:34, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Haunted House (manga)

• ... that the manga Haunted House has been compared to The Addams Family?

• ALT1:... that the manga Haunted House continues Mitsukazu Mihara's death-themed material?

Created by Kaguya-chan (talk). Nominated by Andrzejbanas (talk) at 01:48, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• "has been compared" -- by who? DS (talk) 14:41, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Podostroma cornu-damae

• ... that Podostroma cornu-damae (pictured) is one of the deadliest mushrooms on the planet?

Created by Sateros (talk). Self nom at 06:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Article text needs to be 1500 characters, hook fact is not cited (no citations at all, in fact). Sasata (talk) 19:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. It'll take much time expanding the article...may not be in time. It's a shame I didn't read DYK rules well.--Sateros (talk) 01:43, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Let's leave this one up a couple more days, I can expand it; it's interesting and deserves some front page exposure. Sasata (talk) 02:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I've expanded the article sufficiently for DYK purposes, but will continue working on it until it hits the main page; also removed the image, as the licensing is dubious. This alt might attract more hits (might be worthy as a Hallowe'en hook): Sasata (talk) 17:08, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that symptoms associated with consumption of the fungus Podostroma cornu-damae include stomach ache, peeling skin, hair loss, brain shrinkage, speech and movement disorders, and death?

I see some Halloween potential as we have more artistic licence than normal, it's a pity there is no common name for it though. How about: Smartse (talk) 22:27, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

ALT2 that Podostroma cornu-damae can shrink your brain, make your skin fall off, cause you to speak and move abnormally and kill you?

(Note that the article has only become eligible for DYK with Sasata's recent 5x expansion so I have changed the DYKmake template accordingly) Smartse (talk) 22:28, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the hints, That would be a great help for my next hooks. --Sateros (talk) 06:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Mutant Girls Squad

• ... that Mutant Girls Squad won the award for the best Midnight movie at the Sitges Film Festival?

Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Self nom at 10:33, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

• The plot summary needs to be sourced. If it can be, is there any chance of a scary hook for Halloween? Smartse (talk) 23:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Per WP:FILMPLOT, "Since the film is the primary source and the infobox provides details about the film, citing the film explicitly in the plot summary's section is not necessary."

See Misplaced Pages:Did_you_know/Onepage point D2 - we generally require 1 citation per paragraph and I've definitely seen other film noms being picked up on the lack of a cite for the plot. This is mainly to make sure that the summary is verifiable and isn't original research (i.e. you've written it yourself after watching the film). Smartse (talk) 09:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

If you want an ALT 1 for Halloween, maybe something like "... that one critic said the most memorable thing in Mutant Girls Squad is a character "who can produce a chainsaw from her arse"?" Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:35, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

ALT2 ... that a character in Mutant Girls Squad can produce a chainsaw from her anus. Smartse (talk) 09:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I assume arse in this context means buttocks rather than anus but maybe you can clarify this. Sounds pretty damn scary to me! Smartse (talk) 09:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I've added cites to the plot per your request. It's basically saying buttocks but I mean, they don't show it in to fantastic of detail. You can see it in a clip here at about 27 seconds in. The video is really gorey and if you would rather not watch it, there are other sources that also suggest where the Chainsaw comes from here ("a running chainsaw from her ass"), here ("chainsaws project from their butts"), here ("chainsaw coming out of one’s ass "), here ("extrude a chainsaw from the tail end of her digestive tract"). Pretty much every review I've found of the film mentions it! Pretty Gross but I do enjoy talking about really stupid and strange topics on wikipedia sometimes. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:26, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. That video isn't too bad, stumbled across something much worse (NSFW!) when looking for a source for the common name of the mushroom in the hook above. Think that it is actually the anus if it is the "tail end of her digestive tract" so have changed the hook. Can someone else just check that you agree this is scary? Ta Smartse (talk) 15:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Gah on that picture. I'm good with your cite, as it's similar to one I already nominated for the Death Bell 2 article. Thanks! Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:40, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

For November 1, All Saint's Day

• This is a holder for new or expanded articles for November 1, which is All Saint's Day.

All Saints Church, Buncton

• ... that an ancient carving (pictured) of a person exposing their genitals, at All Saints Church in Buncton, West Sussex, was destroyed by a chisel-wielding vandal in 2004?

• Comment: Bit of an eye-opener... The Times ref (number ) relates.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• Verified. I've removed "of unknown sex" as it makes it less catchy and added some wikilinks to the hook. Smartse (talk) 15:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

November 2, 7 PM London time

American Samoa constitutional referendum, 2010

• ... that despite numerous proposed changes to the Constitution of American Samoa (coat of arms pictured), voters in today's constitutional referendum cannot vote on each of them individually?

Created by Strange Passerby (talk). Self nom at 14:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

• I have moved my nomination from Oct 18 to here as there was no objection after I raised it both here and at WT:DYK#Electioneering hooks. Please run this at 7 PM London time (8 AM in American Samoa) on November 2. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 11:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

For November 3

Scott Ashjian

• ... that the Nevada Supreme Court ruled Scott Ashjian would remain on the ballot as the Tea Party of Nevada candidate in the 2010 United States Senate election?

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 05:52, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

• Because he is a candidate in a current election (early voting in Nevada starts tomorrow), I would oppose having a DYK about this person on the main page during the election season. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
• I would support not including this DYK until at least after the election, if at all. Frankly, the DYK is not particularly interesting.--TM 02:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

That would be most unfortunate, as it would invalidate the DYK due to time since expansion. Perhaps you could suggest another hook. I dispute its not being "interesting", I think it is quite interesting indeed that it went all the way to the Nevada Supreme Court to determine the candidate would remain on the ballot. -- Cirt (talk) 06:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Except that Nevada has only two main levels of courts, the Nevada District Courts and the Supreme Court of Nevada. So many cases in the state courts where someone has to appeal will wind up before the state supreme court. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:30, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Initial report shown to be a bot error:

• Prose size (text only): 10660 characters (1792 words) "readable prose size"
• Article created by Kendrick7 on March 8, 2010
• Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 76 edits ago on July 30, 2010
• Article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days (78 days) DYKcheck does not account for previous versions with splits or copyright violations.

plus the other person's hook did not feature an ongoing election, this one is not new and fails 5x rule too. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:36, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

• Um, Rlevse, I've double-checked it against the article history and it does appear to have been expanded 5x. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 15:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, I've never seen DYKcheck that far off before, but I still think we shouldn't run this as it's directly about a pending election. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:47, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

• Two alternates for your consideration to run the day after the election – if accepted, can be moved to the holding area for November 3. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 15:51, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
• ALT 1: ... that Scott Ashjian, the Tea Party of Nevada candidate in the 2010 U.S. Senate election in Nevada, was a member of the Republican Party when he filed his candidacy?
• ALT 2: ... that Scott Ashjian faced a legal challenge prior to the 2010 U.S. Senate election in Nevada as he changed parties after submitting his candidacy?
  • Oppose, those seem to focus unduly negative on aspects of a BLP. -- Cirt (talk) 20:01, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
    • I disagree, I think it's interesting that that was the reason he was challenged. I don't see it as being "unduly negative", and certainly ALT 1 does not mention a legal challenge so I'd think ALT 1 is perfectly fine. It's shorter and more to the point than ALT3 below. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 03:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
      • You are correct, after I took another look at it. Perhaps we could work the Nevada Supreme Court into there somehow, as well? :) -- Cirt (talk) 04:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
• ALT 3: ... that Scott Ashjian voted for the U.S. presidential candidacies of Republicans Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and John McCain, before forming the Tea Party of Nevada? — ALT 3, proposed, to run on November 3. -- Cirt (talk) 20:01, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Choice of hook aside, date and expansion are fine. All suggested hooks are also supported in the article, including the two I put forward. I leave it to the final reviewer to pass the most suitable one. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 10:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. :) -- Cirt (talk) 10:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I am disturbed by the possibility of using the Main Page (whether TFA, ITN, OTD, or DYK) to spotlight a specific candidate in an election on the day of, or immediately before the election. I think this problem arises even if the day is chosen coincidentally, but is all the more obvious with a "hold". Because the DYK process only vets articles for compliance with Misplaced Pages policies like neutrality at the most basic level, this presents an opportunity for partisans to use Misplaced Pages as a political ad. The easiest way to prevent this (and the only feasible way given the realities of Misplaced Pages), is just to not run such hooks right before an election. Even if the article is neutral, well-referenced, etc., the prominence of the main page seems to provide an undue level of spotlighting, almost like an endorsement or lopsided voters guide. As for this specific hook, I recommend that it be run well in advance of, or after the election. For example, for the 2008 presidential election, both Obama and McCain were run as TFA; I strongly doubt that we would have run either article alone, even if only one of the articles was featured. Savidan 19:45, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Note: This is proposed to be run on the date November 3, 2010, the day after the election. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 20:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

• ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?

• ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

• Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:

Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

• - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
  Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

• Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

• Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

• per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose per Arsenikk. The Utahraptor/_{Contributions} 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!_c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

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