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February 11

People's opinions

Hello, I'm looking for page that contains list of people's/users opinions about Misplaced Pages. Where is it? Thank you! 61.5.68.53 01:46, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

The Misplaced Pages article has a section on what the media and academics think of us. --Malthusian (talk) 15:57, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

POV tag on articles with no talk pages

Is there a general guideline or idea about whether it really "makes sense" or not to put a POV tag on articles, but not put anything in the talk page at all to comment on why one did it, or what exactly was POV? I'm specifically talkinga bout articles with no talk page at all, or one with absolutely nothing germane to the POV tag. Granted, one can usually tell by reading the article, but sometimes it isn't clear what the person who put the POV tag on had in mind. Aaronw 02:33, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

You can put a tag without any comments, however feel to remove it when you don't think it is necessary and there is no explanation. Dr Debug (Talk) 02:44, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

UN copyright

I have a question about copyright.

Some time ago the UN published a work, which was then cited and converted into a derivative work by the OECD this is a graph of scientific data. Who owns the copy right and how should it be classified in wikipedia ?Cadmium

That'll be very unclear. Even if the original work was public domain there is a copyright on the derivative work, so if there is no clarity. The OECD website states:

The OECD wishes to enhance public access to information about its activities, and it maintains this Web site, and the information, documents and materials presented herein (collectively, the "material"), for informational purposes only. All contents on this Web site are protected by copyright. The OECD is pleased to allow those who may choose to access the site (the "User") to download and copy the materials for their personal, non-commercial use. No other use of the material is authorised without prior written permission from the OECD.

So unless the data specifically says otherwise it is probably copyrighted material. Dr Debug (Talk) 09:28, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

How long until a new article is indexed for text search?

I posted a new article three days ago (02/08/2006). I can navigate directly to it from this Category, but I can not get to it using the text search box. Is there a delay in indexing new articles or did I miss something when creating it? Xanov 15:00, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

If you enter the exact article name in the search box and click the Go button, you will be taken to the correct article; this works just about as soon as the article is created—within seconds or (on a slow day) a few minutes.

Entering the same name (or a part thereof) and clicking Search doesn't yet lead to any search results. As you've surmised, the article word search index is updated relatively infrequently; I think it's every week or two, but I'll leave that for someone who's better-versed in our database to answer.

To improve the chances that someone wil find the article in the meantime, you might create one or more redirect articles under likely search terms for the individual. (Instructions for creating a redirect can be found at Misplaced Pages:Redirects). For the article Dattatreya Gopal Karve it might be useful to have a redirect from Dattatreya Karve as well, for instance. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:16, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• Also, apart from the redirects nothing links there. Linking to it from relevant articles makes it easier to find, for both people and indexing bots (from for example Google). - Mgm| 12:12, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Customized templates?

I have been looking for a way to do this on my own for some time now, and i have failed miserably, so here is my last attempt. I have seen people have, for example, customized User Namespace Templates (such as subst:test1, etc). How do I make one for myself, and once i have made it, how will i access it when in someones talk page? --Deemo 16:49, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

If you want to create templates for your own personal use, the best thing to do is to create a user subpage, such as User:Deemo/Mytemp, then when you want to use that template type {{subst:User:Deemo/Mytemp}}, replacing 'Mytemp' with the actual name of the subpage. --Malthusian (talk) 17:31, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry i need info please

My girl friend and her daughter moved from san angelo ,tx to placied ,tx in good faith to live on a man word .After she moved her know he wants her out of his grandamas house .she moved her becouse he told her she could live in as long as she wanted .Becouse she want date him shes trying to throw her and her daughter out on the street and younges daughter hasa dis abuilaty she is claasified as being blind.

What rights does she have in texas how long should she be abel to find her and daughters a place to live.

Thanks Bobby

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Max Talk (add) • Contribs • 18:50, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

What when in dispute with moderator of a a page?

Namely, if i see that moderator deletes controversial editions that are internationaly accepted by historians but he does not accept that him self? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djenka018 (talk • contribs)

In content disputes there is not much difference between a moderator or a normal user. The first thing is to talk to a person about his/her opinions and not to start an edit war (ie changing information back and forth) and start to discuss the change on the Talk page of the article. If you feel that you are in a deadlock, please look at Misplaced Pages:Resolving disputes because there are several options available to get other people to look at it.

After looking at your edit history it seems to just started talking on talk pages. Please remain civil there and try to talk about the content of the article and not to get personal in any way. Please remember that content arguments often require a lot of talking, so my advice is to go back to the talk page and talk some more. Dr Debug (Talk) 19:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Please sign your message on all talk pages with ~~~~, because this will make it clear who is saying what when.

Early-day New Mexico Uranium Discovery

I recall reading of an early-day prospector discovering uranium not far from Grant's New Mexico, and would like to find the details of who, when and where that discovery occurred. Have been unable to locate a source. Can you help?

Please read the notice at the top of this page. -- Natalya 19:50, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Help with Userboxes

Could someone with experience (and free time) try to organize my userboxes (user:weatherman90)? Somehow, they got out of order and they are all scrambled...and not even contained in the box anymore. I want them to be in 3 columns and in an enclosed box. Thanks! Weatherman90 20:14, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

I've put in a test on your talk page, because I prefer that instead of editing your userpage. I hope that it was what you had in mind. Dr Debug (Talk) 20:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

I made an attempt, not sure if it's what you had in mind. Feel free to revert. I just noted when I came back to leave this message that you wanted three columns. Sorry, should have read more carefully. I don't know how to do that. --Fuhghettaboutit 20:34, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Problem Solved, Thanks!

wikifying internal uploaded images without the image appearing

I am by no means a new user here but I still run into problems. I am trying to keep a list on my userpage of images I have uploaded, and have them wikified links. For example, ImageExample.jpg. However, when I do that, the image itself uploads to the page, rather than the lnk to the image page. Of course, I could use single brackets and make the wikipedia http page a link like this ImageExample.jpg. But I would prefer to know how to do it with a regular link. I imagine there must be some code analogous to < nowiki > maybe? to do this. As a stab in the dark I tried <noimage></noimage>. Bubkis. Thanks in advance. --Fuhghettaboutit 20:22, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Use a semicolon before the file name. eg. ] would produce a regular link. -Greg Asche (talk) 20:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. --Fuhghettaboutit 21:53, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Do you have information on Pschographics of the Panhandle of West Texas

Direct questions like this to the Reference Desk. -Greg Asche (talk) 20:30, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Dreamgirls, the broadway play

Do you know where I can purchase a copy of the broadway play DREAMGIRLS?

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Malthusian (talk) 20:52, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Inserting pictures

How do I insert pictures (JPEG format) in articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.191.117 (talk • contribs)

WP:PIC has a full tutorial. But briefly, first you have to make sure that either the image is uncopyrighted (e.g. public domain, or taken by yourself), or fair use. See the image use policy for full details. Then the image must be uploaded, either here at (Special:Upload) or at the Wikimedia Commons. Only uncopyrighted images may be uploaded to the Commons; fair use images must be uploaded here. You need a user account to upload files, but all you need is a username and password.

Then, to insert the picture into an article, you use the syntax ]. It is almost always preferable to use some of the extra parameters for inserting pictures; perhaps the most common use is something like ], which resizes the image to standard size, places it on the right of the article, and adds a caption. Again, see WP:PIC for examples on how to get the image exactly how you want it. --Malthusian (talk) 21:03, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

What is encyclopedic?

I vaguely remember reading an article about what kind of information Misplaced Pages is trying to propagate, but today am having trouble locating it. It's probably somewhere really obvious and I am just reading over that line or something. Thanks in advance. --64.142.65.33 21:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

What Misplaced Pages is not, possibly? --Malthusian (talk) 21:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Yup, that is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. --64.142.65.33 21:59, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Why is this being deleted?

Is this a paradox of sorts? - Akamad 23:54, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Adrian Targett

- Adrian Targett, close DNA match to cheddar man, teaches in local school Kings of Wessex Community School. He lived only 800 yards from the discovery of Cheddar Man and was highly sought after by the media in 1997 when he appeared on Richard and Judy and was also requested for an interview on the David Letterman show but declined as he dislikes flying. He did, however, do an interview in Holland where he was asked whether he should become King of England as he has the longest proven relatives, he replied saying "The Queen can stay doing what she is trained to do and I will stay doing what I'm trained to do, teaching History".

I am placing it in the Cheddar Man article

Question

Is there a Misplaced Pages Nobel Committee? An idea i have, just want to know if it was already taken. WikieZach 23:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I'm getting this question right but anyway, not quite, be we do have some sort of "awards". See Misplaced Pages:Barnstars. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 00:05, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think I saw something somewhere about such a thing. I know about Barnstars, if there isn't one, then how's the idea?

WikieZach 00:11, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

What would the purpose of the committee be? — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:37, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

To encourage Misplaced Pages usage, so that they can pick a person to win awards. Just an idea. WikieZach 03:37, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure I saw a 'featured user' vote somewhere, similar to a 'featured article', but can't find it now. Anyway, I don't like the idea of popularity contests. --Malthusian (talk) 12:26, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

February 12

correction: word noni

word noni in Samoa its spell nonu, Tahitian call it noni.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.141.118.163 (talk • contribs)

If you've found a mistake somewhere in Misplaced Pages, click on 'Edit this page' at the top of the page and correct it. Be bold! --Malthusian (talk) 12:29, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

More than one edit

What happens if two (or more) people are editing a page at the same time, wouldn't the last person to save the page not delete what the other person wrote? DJ John 01:46, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

What happens is an edit conflict. The first person to hit "save" actually has his/her text saved; the second one gets a message that says something to the effect of "Someone else has edited this page since you began, please check for vandalism and resubmit". Hermione1980 01:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Also, the software attempts to reconcile the changes. If it is able to incorporate both changes (for instance, if people edit different sections, it will perform both. — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Skin problems

I am having problems with Misplaced Pages and its look. Originally, I have Misplaced Pages set to the standard skin, but now, it has switched to a look in which EVERYTHING is written in Times New Roman. Problem is I can't click certain internal links, because it only allows me to click on the Left most link on each page, usually languages. Is there any way to change it back to normal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.116.71 (talk • contribs)

Hm. Since you're not registered you should simply get the standard monobook skin. I can only assume that this is either a problem with your browser or a technical cockup on our part that has already been fixed. Sorry I can't be more helpful. If the problem continues then you might get a better response at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)--Cherry blossom tree 12:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

electric cars :

live in u.s. and would like to know, if their is a place I could buy , a eletric car, if I would like too, and how and where can i do that, thank you , rich leuellen

Do not use this template. Use {{RD1}}, {{RD2}} or {{RD3}} instead. tiZom_(2¢) 02:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Weapon legality?

Do we have an article on legality of various sorts of weapons, in various jurisdictions, etc? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 03:36, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Malthusian (talk) 10:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I placed this here as what I considered a truly Misplaced Pages-related question; that is the location of a page that it seems we ought to have. I wasn't actually asking a question on the Help Desk about non-Misplaced Pages content. But fine, I'll ask there, too. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 19:32, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Formatting translations

Is there an easy way to format translations so that one block of text can be shown on the left side of the page, and the second block of text can line up with it on the right side of the page? Or does this have to be done with something horrible like tables? Thanks, Makemi 04:34, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't know enough about code to give you a proper answer. But you could do what I always do, which is to copy and paste the code from somewhere that does it right, such as Dalai Lama (song), and replace the text there with yours. Hope that helps. --Malthusian (talk) 11:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Dalai Lama (song) uses a table, but it's a very simple one. La Marseillaise uses a wikitable, which is probably even simpler. I'll quote the chorus here so you can copy it:

French lyrics Refrain Aux armes, citoyens, Formez vos bataillons, Marchons, marchons ! Qu'un sang impur Abreuve nos sillons !

English Translation Chorus To arms, citizens! Form your battalions! Let us march, let us march! Let impure blood (of our enemies) Soak the furrows (of our fields)

If you want a straight block of text rather than breaks after every line (as in a poem or the lyrics to a song) then you should just miss out the colons (:). Hope this helps. --Cherry blossom tree 12:44, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I've got it. Makemi 15:21, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Tables

I need some help editing tables. I want this table http://en.wikipedia.org/2006_Super_14_Season#Current_table to look like this table http://en.wikipedia.org/2006_Super_14_Season#Week_1. I want the large table to have the top 4 rows blue, like the top row of the small table. How do I do this? --Hamedog 06:55, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Is this what you're after? All I did was add 'class="wikitable"', which seems to have fixed it. If you want something else just whistle.--Cherry blossom tree 12:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

No, I want the top four teams (Crusaders, Hurricanes, Bulls, Brumbies) highlighted to identify they are the top four teams and are in the playoff positions. --Hamedog 13:50, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah. Do you want just the top 4 teams or would you like the whole table with the top 4 highlighted in some way? Here's a few versions, if if you want something else then come back, or maybe find someone who is better with tables.--Cherry blossom tree 15:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I will take the first. --Hamedog 23:40, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

	Pld	W	D	L	F	A	+/-	BP	Pts
Crusaders Crusaders	1	1	0	0	38	15	23	1	5
Hurricanes Hurricanes	1	1	0	0	37	19	18	1	5
Bulls Bulls	1	1	0	0	30	18	12	1	5
Brumbies Brumbies	1	1	0	0	25	10	15	0	4
Stormers	1	1	0	0	23	12	11	0	4
Sharks Sharks	1	1	0	0	30	21	9	0	4
Waratahs Waratahs	1	1	0	0	16	12	4	0	4
Reds Reds	1	0	0	1	12	16	-4	1	1
Chiefs Chiefs	1	0	0	1	21	30	-9	0	0
Cats	1	0	0	1	12	23	-11	0	0
Cheetahs Cheetahs	1	0	0	1	18	30	-12	0	0
Western Force Western Force	1	0	0	1	10	25	-15	0	0
Blues Blues	1	0	0	1	19	37	-18	0	0
Highlanders Highlanders	1	0	0	1	15	38	-23	0	0

	Pld	W	D	L	F	A	+/-	BP	Pts
Crusaders Crusaders	1	1	0	0	38	15	23	1	5
Hurricanes Hurricanes	1	1	0	0	37	19	18	1	5
Bulls Bulls	1	1	0	0	30	18	12	1	5
Brumbies Brumbies	1	1	0	0	25	10	15	0	4
Stormers	1	1	0	0	23	12	11	0	4
Sharks Sharks	1	1	0	0	30	21	9	0	4
Waratahs Waratahs	1	1	0	0	16	12	4	0	4
Reds Reds	1	0	0	1	12	16	-4	1	1
Chiefs Chiefs	1	0	0	1	21	30	-9	0	0
Cats	1	0	0	1	12	23	-11	0	0
Cheetahs Cheetahs	1	0	0	1	18	30	-12	0	0
Western Force Western Force	1	0	0	1	10	25	-15	0	0
Blues Blues	1	0	0	1	19	37	-18	0	0
Highlanders Highlanders	1	0	0	1	15	38	-23	0	0

	Pld	W	D	L	F	A	+/-	BP	Pts
Crusaders Crusaders	1	1	0	0	38	15	23	1	5
Hurricanes Hurricanes	1	1	0	0	37	19	18	1	5
Bulls Bulls	1	1	0	0	30	18	12	1	5
Brumbies Brumbies	1	1	0	0	25	10	15	0	4

enquiry abt Dr.Ama Ogbo

Dear Sir i want to know about DR.Ama Ogbo and his family who was the personal adviser to the president of ivory cost i m told that he was murdered in the rebel is it true i will like to no whree his family memebers are

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Malthusian (talk) 11:03, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Advance fee fraud! -- Zondor 11:13, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Glossary

Hi

Is there a po file for the wikipedia Glossary and system messages? It would make life easier or translating to other languages.

Are there instuctions on making a talk page archive?

I hope there is an existing article that describes how to do this. If there isn't, there ought to be and I'd be glad to help write it. I'm asking because I suggested making a talk archive page to a user who blanked their talk page. I felt kind of dumb suggesting they make an archive page and not including a link on how to do so. – ApolloCreed 10:29, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:ARCHIVE has the full instructions. It's really as simple as adding a link to a subpage to the main talkpage (e.g. User_talk:Redcomusic/Archive, then going to the edit history, finding the blanked material, and copying and pasting it over to the subpage. --Malthusian (talk) 10:50, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Possible image copyright violations

User:Reverend Abramovich has uploaded a number of hentai images to Misplaced Pages: Image:22bbb.jpg, Image:2_2_sailor_mercury_hentai.gif, Hentai - sailor moon - mars in a thong.JPG and Image:24jjj.jpg, claiming via the tag that he is the creator and that he releases them into public domain. There seems to be good reason to doubt that they are his - the wildly different drawing style between the Mercury, Mars and the other pictures, for one - but I don't know how you'd go about actually proving a copyvio of this sort. Should I just take them to IfD or is there a way to prove their source? --Malthusian (talk) 10:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:22bbb.jpg comes from www.hentaifactory.com - there's a link to the site in the bottom right - and the others are in a similar style. You could maybe e-mail webmaster@hentaifactory.com to ask who owns the copyright to the images. I expect it'll turn out that it isn't User:Reverend Abramovich.--Cherry blossom tree 12:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Since they're not used in any article, and do not seem likely to have any encyclopedic value, you could just delete them citing WP:NOT#Misplaced Pages is not a free host, blog, or webspace provider and WP:SNOW. If they're not gone or used in an article by tomorrow, I'm minded to do just that myself. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 13:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

This user may be a sockpuppet of Timecop (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I've requested a CheckUser to confirm this. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 16:40, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Maureen Wadia

Hi

I would like to know the educational/family background of Maureen Wadia (wife of Nusli Wadia- Bombay Dyeing, India).

Thanks, YJ

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/Maureen_Wadia"

How d I find the synonym of "liability" and other legal terms? Thank you

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Malthusian (talk) 17:30, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Watchlist doesn't update

My watchlist doesn't seem to update. Two articles I'm watching that I know have been edited, Ariel Sharon and List of U.S. states by population, don't appear as having been edited. There have been no updates on my watchlist since Feb. 10. I personally made changes to the List of U.S. states by population both yesterday and today and they haven't appeared, and the Ariel Sharon article was updated yesterday at least, probably today as well, but it doesn't show. What's the problem? Jack Daw 15:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Did you try clearing your cash(e)? On Firefox you hold down shift while refreshing. This seems to fix a myriad of problems on Misplaced Pages. Makemi 15:55, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't have firefox I have explorer. what's cash(e)? Jack Daw 17:03, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I think it's cache. See Misplaced Pages:Bypass your cache for instructions with Internet Explorer.--Cherry blossom tree 18:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Also, this can sometimes happen if the article has been moved and you're watching a redirect to it, though that seems unlikely with these articles. Have you tried unwatching them and then watching them again? I have no idea why that would work but it might. Sorry I can't be any more help.--Cherry blossom tree 16:01, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I did try that but it didn't work. I also logged out, made an edit, logged in to see if it had registered, but no. Jack Daw 17:03, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm this is weird: When I click "my watchlist" it shows only those up to Feb 10, but when I click "Show last 3 days" for instance it's all in order. Well well I guess I'll have to live with that. Thanks anyway

It's very clearly a browser caching problem: Misplaced Pages would serve the correct thing to the browser, but because the browser second-guesses what it's going to be sent based on what it's been sent before, it doesn't bother asking Misplaced Pages for the content; when you send a different query, by clicking "show last 3 days" the browser can't second-guess (load from cache) so it has to ask Misplaced Pages, but if you click that button again later, the cache may still kick in. If you can't work out how to change cache settings for IE, the other popular Windows web browsers handle it somewhat better, so a good solution may be to try Opera or Firefox. jnothman 23:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Help settle an edit war

I and User:Kurieeto disagree about whether Chocolate and slavery can be included in Category:Chocolate or Category:Chocolate industry. Kurieeto claims that since the article is related to chocolate, it should be in either of those categories. I, however, think that because every single other article in either category is actually about chocolate, it would be out of place in them. For example, you eat Mars bars. You don't eat chocolate and slavery. Milka makes and sells chocolate. Chocolate and slavery doesn't make or sell chocolate. I need more opinions here. JIP | Talk 16:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I'd say Category:Chocolate is appropriate, but Category:Chocolate industry is probably redundant. The former category does contain articles on various non-edible chocolate-related topics, like Theobromine, Broma process and Conrad J. van Houten. I see no reason why Chocolate and slavery wouldn't fit. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 16:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

adding Misplaced Pages to my address book/bookmarks

Every time I enter: http://en.wikipedia.org/Main_Page to the address-add box, I get back the message "This is not a proper address. What address should I use to access the Misplaced Pages encyclopedia? My address is (e-mail address removed). Thanks for your assistance.

Are you sure this is exactly what you are typing? If you are copying it from somewhere, you may have accidentally copied a space or a hidden character preceding it. Try just typing in "en.wikipedia.org" and hitting Go. jnothman 23:15, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Links

When I try to use certain links in your site, I cannot select them or when I click on them, nothing happens. Ts occurs anywhere that there are links on the left side of the page, even being able to type this message took some experimenting on where I could get the cursor to appear. Another example is a presidential biography page, the links in the table below the president's picture do not work. Is this normal, or is it just with my computer?

Signed,

   --64.12.116.11 16:39, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikilinks to internal sections

I would much appreciate it if someone could tell me how to make a trunked link to an internal section of an article. Example: I want to link directly with a trunked wikilink in an article I am editing, to the ==Art and culture== subsection of Misplaced Pages's article on Manhattan. --Fuhghettaboutit 17:42, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

You'd type ] which gives Manhattan#Art & Culture. You can pipe this as normal. Make sure you get the capitalisation correct, which is what I just spent 10 minutes trying to figure out.--Cherry blossom tree 18:13, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! --Fuhghettaboutit 18:37, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

• Do remember, though, that linking to sections is discouraged, because if they're changed, there's no redirects left behind as with articles. You could be creating links that go dead. - 131.211.210.15 09:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Image

My name, T. Colin Campbell , has personal photo that I would like to change. How do I do this?

You can upload a new photo (see on the left side of this page in the toolbox : "Upload file") by using an appropriate copyright tag: see : Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags and Misplaced Pages:Uploading images. As to deleting the present image, follow the guidelines in Misplaced Pages:Image use policy. JoJan 21:19, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

how do I write an article for Misplaced Pages?

Just go to Help:Starting a new page and follow the instructions there. You'll need to create an account first, though, but that takes less than thirty seconds and is free. --Kwekubo 21:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I think the questionner is already registered. If you want to write a new article just type the title of your article into the search box, press go and (assuming it hasn't already been created) you'll see a screen saying "No page with that title exists". There should also be a link to create your article. If you click the link you'll be taken to an empty edit screen where you can write your article. Alternately, you can copy en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=My new article&action=edit into your broswer's address bar, replacing "My new article" with the name of the article you want to create. The choice is yours.--Cherry blossom tree 21:19, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

• But please do try searching for the article you want to write first. Sometimes people don't notice we've already got an article on a certain subject. Knowing capitalization and Naming conventions is especially useful. - 131.211.210.15 09:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Confirm delete text location

When I go to delete a page, I get the usual "confirm delete" page. Where is the MediaWiki page that has that text on it? It needs a slight copyedit. Hermione1980 22:45, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Confirmdeletetext. In general, you can answer this kind of question by searching Special:Allmessages. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 22:59, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I could not find the Allmessages page for anything, and it was frustrating because I knew I had seen it before. I just couldn't remember what it was called. Hermione1980 23:12, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

To give you a clue on how to find it in the future, you could have gone from Misplaced Pages:MediaWiki namespace, in turn from Misplaced Pages:Namespaces; or Special:Specialpages if you had remembered it was a special page.

February 13

Code for Search Bar

What is the HTML code for the Misplaced Pages search bar on the left side of the page? I would like to put it on my site.

Howard Frank Mosher

I wrote a brief article about the author, Howard Frank Mosher, but somehow it came out titled "Howard frank mosher" (i.e., with lower case letters beginning his middle and last name). How do I fix this?

Dlcrane 01:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)Dlcrane

You can move the article by the "Move" button at the top, however you ahve to be a registered user for at least 4 days because it was often misused in the past. There is a page called Misplaced Pages:Requested moves where you can ask for a name to be changed. This page is also for moves which cannot normally be done with the software. For example when the target page already exists.

In this case Aranda56 moved it for you, so your page was moved already. Dr Debug (Talk) 01:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Skippyballs

HELLO.

Thanks for the article about SKIPPYBALLS (spacehoppers). Its nice story about oure MEGA SKIPPYBALLS. KITT 2000 VELP. comes from VELP. in the NEHERLAND, (not denmark). The balls caled MEGA SKIPPYBALLEN (dutch) MEGA SKIPPYBALLS (englisch). Watch also oure website: For more information about the MEGA SKIPPYBALLEN.

SKIPPYBALL greeting from KITT.

KITT 2000 VELP. RICHARD BERNTSEN.

Capitalization of book titles

Normally all important words of a book title are capitalized. But I have some books whose title is in all lower case. One is starting out: pawn endings which I've referenced in endgame and other places. Should I capitalize it normally, or use the all lower case format it uses in all places? (I couldn't find this addressed anywhere.) Bubba73 (talk), 02:30, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Normally you would capitalize titles unless the book is specifically known as "pawn endings". Dr Debug (Talk) 02:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is specifically all lower case on the front of the book, the edge of the book, the title page, and the back cover. However, when they refer to the book in the description of the book on the back cover, it is capitalized. Bubba73 (talk), 02:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Summaries on the back cover are usually written by somebody else as part of the advertisement so it could be honest mistake. If the author intended the title to be lower case only it is probably wiser to leave it that way. You are refering to the book by Yuri Averbakhc, because Amazon has it in lower case as well (except for the initial capital, but that's probably software related). Dr Debug (Talk) 03:06, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually I'm referring to a different book Flear, and you can see the cover there. It is part of a series of books, and they all have the title in all lower case. Bubba73 (talk), 03:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

However a google turns up many mixed case entries. So feel free to change it or not. If it is like those J-Pop albums where they have chosen all capitals it is different, but I doubt whether this is the case. Dr Debug (Talk) 03:16, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I put it and its companions in standard capitalization in several places, so I'm going to leave it that way. Bubba73 (talk), 04:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Check if there is any official title for it given on the page with copyright and publishing information. jnothman 06:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

There is no title on the copyright page, see here and click on next. However, all references to it other than the book cover itself put it in standard form, so that's how I'm going to leave it. Bubba73 (talk), 23:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

posting

How do I post an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.143.19.51 (talk • contribs)

By getting an account or by requesting a page at Misplaced Pages:Requested articles. Dr Debug (Talk) 03:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

• If you have the information, but don't want (or don't have the time) to create an account, you can also submit your idea to WP:AFC. - Mgm| 09:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

how can i find out how much a silver certificate. 1935

"Hi..well if this note was in Uncirculated condition the best it would sell for is $6.If it had 2 or 3 folds then it's value would be $2.50.Since your note is well circulated probably grading fine.This note is very common with collectors and in this fine grade it would only be worth face value."

Please read the notice at the top of this page. - Mgm| 09:44, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Help Please Urgent Attention Neccesary Bremner wafer

The Company of Bremner wafer wishes to review the article for Bremner wafer before it goes to press. I would be much more confortable if an administrator were to edit the page. In addition, all images containing the Bremner wafers, the logo ,and the tins are available (meaning the company allows use of the images). Please Help! Thank you to anyone who helps. Ram32110 04:16, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean by going to press? All changes take effect immediately. You may request a peer review if you would like.Flying Canuck 06:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

• I'm afraid you are misinformed about what Misplaced Pages is. Try our article about ourselves at Misplaced Pages or read Misplaced Pages:Introduction. - Mgm| 09:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Certainly is interesting, however, if they do allow such images. Can somebody follow up on that? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 09:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Created pages

Is there any tool that can show me a list (or at least the number) of pages I've created? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 09:51, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Go to Special:Contributions while you are logged in. You might also be interested in Kate's edit counting tool. There are a number of spinoffs of the later which provide other information, e.g. interiot's tool. —WAvegetarian•_{CONTRIBUTIONS}• •03:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I just realized that you asked about pages you created. You can look through your contributions for a N mark, denoting a new page. —WAvegetarian•_{CONTRIBUTIONS}• •03:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm looking for something more specific than that, if possible. I've created quite a few pages, and for some reason, my contribution history doesn't always show pages I've created with a N next to them. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 04:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Apparently this is harder than it seems; see bugzilla:4150. — Catherine\ 03:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

New page indexing

How long does it normally take for a new page to be picked up by the Misplaced Pages search facility?

How Do I Make Columns On Misplaced Pages

How do I make columns on wikipedia?

• Try putting the text in an invisible table with two columns. See Help:Tables. - Mgm| 23:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

You will need to look in the edit window to see the solutions:

{{Top}} may refer to:

• {{Collapse top}}
• {{Archive top}}
• {{Hidden archive top}}
• {{Afd top}}
• {{Discussion top}}
• {{Tfd top}}
• {{Top icon}}
• {{Top text}}
• {{Cfd top}}
• {{Rfd top}}
• {{Skip to top}}

• Liverpool
• Arsenal

| class="col-break " |

• MU
• Chelsea

Template:Bottom

OR

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Commander Keane (talk • contribs)

'Remember me' no longer works

Every time I close my browser, I get logged out of Misplaced Pages, and have to log in again, even though I turn on 'Remember me' every single time. I've already tried emptying the cache and using both Firefox and Opera, no joy. Anyone know of any other reasons why this could be happening? Thanks. --Malthusian (talk) 23:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

In fact, it seems to be logging me in and out at random. I was adding a warning to an anon's page just now, and when I clicked preview I was logged out and my IP address appeared as my signature... but when I clicked 'Preview' again I was logged in and my signature appeared as normal. And now I've come back to the help desk I'm logged out again. I can't imagine how this could be anything to do with the cache, I'd never been to that anon's talk page before. --212.225.62.108 23:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I've had the same thing today, along with a lot of other problems. Bubba73 (talk), 23:51, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

The same goes for me, too. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 02:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I figured it was related to the server crash earlier. Are logins still doing this? ‣ᓛᖁᑐ 03:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

This was related to the server crash. Thanks to the great work of our dev staff, particularly User:Brion VIBBER, everything is better now. —WAvegetarian•_{CONTRIBUTIONS}• •03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

blank lines between bulleted lists

I usually put blank lines between bulleted lists (consecutive lines starting with "*"), but most editors take them out. On my screen, they make no visible difference but they make it a lot easier for editors working with the text. Is there a policy on this? Bubba73 (talk), 00:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion the blank lines make it harder to use and read (takes up more space). Most of the tutorials show it without spaces (and I don't think anyone has suggested doing it your way), so I think no spaces is the defacto style. BrokenSegue 01:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Adding a blank line closes a list, so the way you're currently doing will create, instead of a single list with 5 items, 5 lists with one item each. You can prove this using the ordered list:

Without blank lines

1. Item 1
2. Item 2
3. Item 3

With blank lines

1. Item 1

1. Item 2

1. Item 3

See that the numeration doesn't work? So yes, keep them without the space, please. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 02:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I know it doesn't worked with numbered lines (starting with #) but I was thinking of lines starting with an "*". On my screen, this:

• line 1
• line 2
• line 3

looks almost exactly the same as:

• line 1

• line 2

• line 3

(I had to get out a ruler to tell that there was any difference.)

and if the text after the "*" runs more than one line, it is much easier for the editor to see the individual items. I also prefer to use a space before lines starting with ":", "::", etc, to make it easier for someone editing the text to see. Bubba73 (talk), 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

PLease add them without spaces. There is extra white-space between them (I notice it without a ruler) and I think it is harder to edit. BrokenSegue 21:38, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Go to checkmate and go down to "Quick checkmates in the opening" and edit that, and look what a mess it is without any blank lines seperating the items. Bubba73 (talk), 01:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

February 14

How to delete an uploaded image

I uploaded an image file to go wth an article I was writing, then later uploaded it again under a better name. How can I delete the first upload?

John F 00:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

append {{db|creator's request}} to the end of the picture's description page and an admin will come through and delete it for you. BrokenSegue 00:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Articles in Category:NPOV disputes that don't have the template in them

1980 Winter Olympics medal count and 1920 Summer Olympics medal count are two articles that are in the http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:NPOV_disputes but when I go to the article themselves there's no NPOV tag and took a quick look in the history and couldn't see where they were. Am I getting some bad cached info from something? On another subject, is there a way to make a wikilink to a category without actually putting an article IN that category? Aaronw 00:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there is a way: category:NPOV disputes (]). It also works on images, templates, etc.

—WAvegetarian•_{CONTRIBUTIONS}• •01:15, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

User Pages and Userboxes

In my user page, my boxes automatically shift into a collumn on the left. How can I space them out? I'd prefer larger, more horizontal boxes. --Scorpios 00:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Edit this and look at it:

Whoops, that won't do what you want (I misunderstood). Bubba73 (talk), 01:25, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at User:Nightstallion/userboxes. —WAvegetarian•_{CONTRIBUTIONS}• •01:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Where is the "new articles" link?

How do I get to the page that shows new article contributions for the day? --Sadi Carnot 01:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I think you want Special:Newpages. It is found under the Special pages link in the toolbox. This will be on the left hand side of your screen using the default skin. —WAvegetarian•_{CONTRIBUTIONS}• •01:56, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Experts vs. Non-Experts

So I know that Misplaced Pages is frequently criticized for having inaccurate information; one of the most frequent specific criticisms involves Misplaced Pages's inherent "anyone can edit" nature. Not just because people can anonymously fabriacate information, but because there are those people who have only superficial knowledge of a topic and then author an encyclopedia article that may be inaccurate or incomplete (but appear to be correct to most readers). Personally, I didn't think this was much of an issue, as I assumed that if a "real" expert came along, they would fix whatever problems existed in those articles. But now, I am involved in a situation that casts doubt on my assumption. I am not an expert on many things, but I am less than a year away from a Ph.D. in Social Psychology. My graduate training involved dozens of graduate classes in social psychology, research methodology and statistics. I teach several undergraduate courses on these topics at a university. But when I discover inaccuracies in an article that is on the specific field of my doctoral training, my edits and comments are met with resistance--not by other experts, but by a single Misplaced Pages editor who, despite having no real training (perhaps a single undergraduate course) in my field, purports to know better than I. This editor is smart, well-read, a prolific Wikipedian and knows just enough to be dangerous, but a social psychologist he is not (his bio says he is currently an undergraduate philosophy major). Other individuals have attempted to make edits to the page, only to have them reverted by this editor. How do I assert my expertise? Can I assert it? I feel like this is the exact situation that turns many people off of Misplaced Pages. -Nick 01:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Assert your expertise by backing up everything you say with references. Good references cannot be argued with. 01:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

There are some that repeatedly delete good/excellent references that contradict their POV. Bubba73 (talk), 02:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Tell me about it. The references I cite are often countered with references from outside the main academic field that only semi-address the specific topic. -Nick 02:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I think I've had material published by the Smithsonian Institution deleted in favor of stuff froma blog. Bubba73 (talk), 02:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I think the dispute resolution process may be what you're looking for. First step is to try and work it out with the editor, if he's intractable then you can begin to request the involvement of the wider community to seek a consensus.

What you can't do is 'assert your expertise'; this is the Internet, and claiming to be a social psychiatrist (whatever that does) carries no weight. Your references do carry weight, make sure you know them and can explain to a relative layman why they are authoritive (when I say layman, I mean a fairly intelligent and well-read layman who can tell the difference between a good source and a bad one). --Malthusian (talk) 09:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Adding info on Holiday

I would like very much to be able to add either to an article about Environmental Holidays (although I don't believe there is one just yet) or the article on Raccoons a note about International Raccoon Appreciation Day. While there is little to no published writing on the holiday, it is celebrated Oct. 1st of every year in at least four countries.

I realise it's hard to keep out the bogus junk, but I still would like to put up SOMETHING.

Thanks for your time!

BSL —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.188.195.105 (talk • contribs) .

So do it. As long as the submissions are well cited and relevant, there shouldn't be any reason why your edits shouldn't stay. You may want to check out Help:Starting a new article for more info. Dismas| 04:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Have it so that when you go to the main page and start typing its already on the search bar

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.149.119.206 (talk • contribs) .

• This would be a feature of your browser, not of Misplaced Pages. JIP | Talk 11:16, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
• You could do this by writing a greasemonkey script if you're using firefox. Another way is to modify your User:68.149.119.206/monobook.js file. I've modified mine to do this and it works with Firefox 1.5 and IE 7 beta 2. You could do it by adding the text below to your monobook.js, but note that you are trusting me to not put anything nasty in search-focus.js (I haven't!). Take a look at mine for reference.

// Set focus to search input
document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
             + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:ApolloCreed/search-focus.js' 
             + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');

ApolloCreed 19:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

See also bug 1864 --Commander Keane

There is strong opposition to implenting this; if you are interested in this I would suggest you follow the above advice for local modification. — Knowledge Seeker দ 07:44, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Placing images from Wikipedias in other languages

It is very easy to put up an image from English Misplaced Pages: image:file.jpg.

How can I take an image from Misplaced Pages in another language and place it on an English-language Misplaced Pages page on the same topic? Is it possible. The image I would like is at Vietnamese Misplaced Pages. Bathrobe 07:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

The best way is to use commons:Main Page for shared pictures. You can of course save it from one wiki and upload it in another, but commons is meant for shared media and you can simply use the filename and if it is not on the local wiki, it'll be shown from commons. Dr Debug (Talk) 07:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

• The commons has a stricter acceptance policy. Fair use images are not allowed there. If your image is not free, you'll have to reupload it on the wiki you want to use it on. - Mgm| 10:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

missing text in wikipedia articles

Often when i am browsing wikipedia articles there is text randomly missing from the articles. Sentences end midway and there is a blank before the article abruptly resumes. This seems to happen at least once in a majority of articles i look at. As an example, the last article i viewed was "baron" and half a sentence is apparently missing in the first paragraph.

Is this a problem with my computer or internet explorer, or a problem with wikipedia, or a problem with the article content or what? can it be fixed?

This may be a problem with your browser. I was unable to find the problem you allude to in baron. The first paragraph is

Baron is a specific title of nobility or a more generic feudal qualification. The word baron comes from French baron, itself from Frankish baro meaning "freeman, warrior"; it merged with cognate Old English beorn meaning "nobleman." Ultimately it seems to mean a burden bearer.

Walter Siegmund (talk) 11:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

How does an article get in the index?

Hi,

I recently wrote a small article. I can get to it via other pages which link to it, but cannot find it through the search function. Is this a time thing, i.e. index updated perioidically (how often?) or should I do something to make it appear in the index?

Thanks, John

• It's hard to say. Developers have to do it manually and since it strains the servers to check all articles, they usually do it at low-traffic moments. Apart from that, I really don't have a set time to give you. - Mgm| 17:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok, that's fine. I just wanted to make sure I had not missed something I should do. John F 10:39, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Balance, or spreadsheets

How can I print a balance, or spreadsheet?

• Hit the print button? I'm afraid you're going to have to be more specific to get a useful answer and in all likelyhood this question belongs on the reference desk too. - Mgm| 18:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Flag Image Templates

Does anyone know of a set of templates similar to {{USA}} which include only the flag at the 20px size? I am planning on doing a lot of Olympic results, and I don't want to look up the name of the flag image for every one of them :o\ tiZom_(2¢) 17:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC) (I've repeated this question at Talk:List of flags)

Can't you just copy those templates from last year's results, or from the results of some other sports article? - Mgm| 18:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm looking at trying to do a first-second-third place type thing where each position could be taken by any nation in the world. I could memorize every flag image name, but I'd really prefer not to :o) Also, I'm doing a lot of them, and it just takes too much time to type! tiZom_(2¢) 19:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

• Well, if you're not going to remember the template names, you're still going to need to remember the image names of said flags to make a template like that work. I prefer copying such images from pages that already have them. No remembering required which is great for my sieve of a brain. - Mgm| 22:33, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Sure. Well, the template names could be formatted - like {{JPN-flag}} and {{SWE-flag}}. Kind of like the one I mentioned before. It's REAL easy to just type {{NOR}}, for example! tiZom_(2¢) 23:08, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Wow. I *just* realized that they are already formatted the same way (e.g. Image:Flag of Germany.svg, Image:Flag of Mexico. Sorry! I guess it would still be easier, as I'm using templates where the 3-letter code is already an argument, to have the template call up the flag with a template similar to the {{NOR}} example above. But then again, that would be using meta-templates. Ah, well. tiZom_(2¢) 23:16, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Sonny Mercan

Hello can anyone help me and give me an idea of what I'm doing here? I'm trying to put a page for Muhammed Sonny Mercan but whenever I try to do so it doesn't get registered. It's quite a few days now that I'm trying to get that page up on Misplaced Pages but all invain. The page is supposed to be Muhammed Sonny Mercan an environmentalist person of Turkic ancestry, the indigenous people. So can anyone please tell me what to do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sonny Mercan (talk • contribs) .

• Your page appears to be working. Take a look here. BTW, if you are writing an article about yourself, that is typically discouraged. - ApolloCreed 19:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

OPEC

Hello,

I just have a question which was assigned to me by my teacher. Why was Vienna,Austria the headquarters of OPEC although it was nota member of OPEC?

I need an urgent reply... THANKS~

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Malthusian (talk) 21:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

You won't have much luck there, either. One of the policies is not to expect them to do your homework for you.--Max Talk (add) • Contribs • 04:47, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

image copywrite issues

Hey, I'm General Gerbil, a new user. I'm trying to make a page about a band i am a fan of, and i need to know, is it ok to use images of the band and their albums if i have explicit permission directly from the band? How would i prove that i had permission to use the pictures? Btw the band is And Then I Turned Seven..., and they are a local group so i would be able to obtain permission by email.

God Bless, GG — Preceding unsigned comment added by General Gerbil (talk • contribs)

For the full policy, see Misplaced Pages:Image use policy. Briefly, the images must be released by the copyright holders under a free licence, or be fair use. Licences which restrict distribution to Misplaced Pages are not free enough. See Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags for which free licences are compatible with Misplaced Pages. To be fair use the images of the band would have to be part of a press release.

Also, this is slightly tangential to your question, but note that Misplaced Pages has specific guidelines for what bands can have articles written about them: see WP:MUSIC. Bands that fail these criteria may be deleted, and local bands frequently fall under them. We do this because it's difficult to keep articles about 'non-notable' bands verified and written in a neutral point of view. --Malthusian (talk) 22:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

• You may find more information if you spell "copyright" instead of "copywrite". It's about rights, not writing. - 131.211.210.15 09:02, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

February 15

Font used by Misplaced Pages

Is it not about time that something was done about the font used in Misplaced Pages? Whilst this may have been acceptable in the early days, when Misplaced Pages was presumably a largely American institution, these days certain pages, particularly those in such languages as Czech or Slovak, are unreadable, as many characters are shown simply as "Č" (a square box). The problem occurs in a number of languages using the latin alphabet, and would be solved if a process of moving over to Unicode was introduced. Skinsmoke 01:07, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Looks fine to me assuming that was meant to be a capital C with some kind of curved accent over it. Maybe you need to get yourself a better browser. I am using firefox. --Martyman-(talk) 01:20, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I've used Misplaced Pages on several platforms and have found that it is usually the installed fonts on a computer, rather than the page coding, that is the problem. As far as I can tell, Misplaced Pages uses Unicode, and properly at that. --AlexWCovington (talk) 01:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Now I'm completely baffled! If I cut and paste the article onto a Wordpad document, using either Arial or Times New Roman, the characters show correctly. However, on the original page view (with encoding set to Unicode, the characters show as a square box. I have Czech language support installed on Internet Explorer. Skinsmoke 01:41, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the problem must be with your browser (Misplaced Pages does use Unicode, and the character displays correctly for me). Not sure what to tell you about Internet Explorer—when I switched to Firefox, I noticed lots of little problems like this disappearing, but I also realize that many people are loyal to IE. Perhaps another IE user has some suggestions? — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:01, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I think you right click in IE, but if not, there will be a menu somewhere in IE that lets you set the character encoding. Try setting it a Unicode format. Or just switch to a Mac, Unicode is always on those, and often it will display characters that my PC won't--Max Talk (add) • Contribs • 04:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

And for "Unicode" read UTF-8. rodii 20:26, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

What happened to the font?

Why did the font shrink all of a sudden? -- King of Hearts | (talk) 01:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I haven't noticed any change. Unless my computer and I have shrunk at the same rate. Have you checked the font size setting in your browser? Perhaps you inadvertantly changed it. — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:02, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

In both IE and Firefox, go View > Text size, and choose Normal/Medium. enochlau (talk) 03:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

The font size can also be changed by holding control and rolling the mouse wheel. I've done this accidentally lots of times. --Malthusian (talk) 09:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Now it's gone, I think, might have been a server crash or something. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 04:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

How do I start a disambiguity page?

Presently, the love article has the world-famous Helen Fisher (Anthropologist) linked to some politician that I have never heard of. How do a fix this problem via creating a disambuguity page, and then starting a stub for "helen fisher" anthropologist/love-researcher? Thanks:--Sadi Carnot 01:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

First of all, they are called disambiguation pages. Secondly, there is nothing unique about them; just create one by following the model at WP:D. If you need any help, drop me a line on my talk page, although, I am on Wikibreak, and might not get back to you for a while.--Max Talk (add) • Contribs • 04:38, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but what is the procedure for titling articles for people with the same name? Should it be:

• Helen Fisher (anthropologist)
• Helen Fisher (politician)

Is this correct?--Sadi Carnot 05:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes that's right.--Commander Keane

A problem creating an account

I tried to create an account, but for some reason after doing all the steps, I got a message telling me I already had 10 accounts! Why? I can't even get 1 account, let alone 10! Did I do something wrong? I would appreciate any help on this issue so that I can get an account soon.

There is a limit on the number of accounts that can be created from a certain IP address in a certain time period. If you are in a school or other organisation, or simply behind your ISP proxy, it may have been the case that other people have registered accounts through the proxy, rendering you unable to register. enochlau (talk) 03:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

• Sorry about that. But it's a necessary precaution to stop vandals from repeat account creation. - 131.211.210.15 09:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

No it's not either of those, this is my home computer and I use AOL dial-up. I don't get it. Either it's a glitch or I've got hackers jacking my computer or something like that. It just doesn't make sense.

Permanent links

Hi! Where I can find some FAQ or How-to about using permanent links? Thanks! Cyb3r 02:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

• Each version of an article has its own URL. Simply click the correct date and time in the article's history and use external link formatting to link to the resulting URL. For example: this is the link to yesterday's last version of the Help desk. -- 131.211.210.15 09:07, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah! It works! Thanks =) Cyb3r 14:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

<ref>what is this?</ref>what_is_this?</ref>-February_15-2006-02-15T03:10:00.000Z">

I've seen some people on Misplaced Pages using a form of footnote/citing which uses a <ref> element inline in the article to demarcate the citation/note. Then, at the bottom, <references/> is used to auto-generate a list containing the citations/notes, with beautiful superscripts in the text and anchor links. I'll try to demonstrate it here:

Questions: What is this? Is it a MediaWiki feature? Is it a top-secret hack? Why can I not find any documentation on it? And why don't more folks use it? (Seems to admirably serve the purpose of separating content from formatting, and makes citing sources far easier.) KWH 03:10, 15 February 2006 (UTC)what_is_this?</ref>"> what_is_this?</ref>">

References

1. Pifflewhiz, I.M., Prof. "Fantastic Footnote Technologies", Lumburgh University Press.

See meta:Cite/Cite.php. It's a MediaWiki extension. enochlau (talk) 03:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)what_is_this?</ref>"> what_is_this?</ref>">

Thanks for the rapid response... I think that covers all but the last question... is it a matter of taste? I know that citation methods can be a bone of contention. Any guidelines or heads up on using this? KWH 03:25, 15 February 2006 (UTC)what_is_this?</ref>"> what_is_this?</ref>">

The Cite extension is a relatively new addition to Misplaced Pages, so that's why not many people are using it currently. It's not exactly the most exciting job to convert existing citation methods to the new Cite extension, so I guess that's why there hasn't been a wholescale push to convert. However, if you're annotating an article without citations, I would suggest using this method because it actually works like a proper system unlike the previous template hacks. enochlau (talk) 03:38, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

• If they can be flushed out by using <references> (according to the help page, then why use <references/>? - 131.211.210.15 09:11, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

• To be well-formed XML (including XHTML, which Misplaced Pages pages try to be), an element must be closed. So theoretically you could use <references></references>, but it's more idiomatic to use <references/> or better yet, <references />. That's my guess, anyway. (Look around and you'll see lots of <br /> and <img /> tags.) rodii 20:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Help!

How do you post a new wikipedia topic?

• See Misplaced Pages:How to start a page and WP:YFA. If you haven't done so already, please create an account first. People without an account can submit articles at WP:AFC. - 131.211.210.15 09:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
• Also, please read Misplaced Pages:Your first article to make sure you don't write something that Misplaced Pages ends up rejecting. --Malthusian (talk) 09:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Finding a user from another language

A user called Contestid67 posted a useful picture which now has a copyright query. The user's name is in red, from which I deduce it was registered in another language, not English. I have tried looking in the most common languages to find User:Contestid67 but I guess I need to know the word for 'User' in each language. Is there an easier way of finding Contestid67 across the whole Wiki-world? JMcC 09:23, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

To upload images, you must be registered on the Misplaced Pages in the same language. The fact that his name was in red simply means that he has not created a user page. You can always leave messages on his talk page.--Max Talk (add) • Contribs • 17:39, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

explaination of spirit level funcntioning

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Malthusian (talk) 11:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Chaos theory film

I just wanted to ask about a statement that someone has made on this site. They briefly said something about a chaos theory film coming out? is this true or false?

Please read the notice at the top of this page. Although you might also find it helpful to know that if you know which user said this, you can usually ask them personally on their talk page, by clicking their username and then 'discussion' at the top. If you read this in a particular article somewhere, you can ask at the article's talk page, again by clicking 'discussion' at the top. --Malthusian (talk) 13:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

A link isn't working

Can someone explain why the interwiki link on Image:Map_ruesselsheim_in_Germany.png isn't working? Thanks for your help. Matt 13:59, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

If you want to use an interwiki link in the text, as opposed to off in a sidebar as an "interlanguage link", you need to put a colon in front, so ] not ]. I've fixed it. Shimgray | talk | 14:23, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks :) Matt 14:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Helpline with assault

Dear wikipedia, Your publications and relevant links to the "assault" page have been informative to me personally as a female. However , some useful links as to obtaining "help" may be a good suggestion to link to these pages. Thanking you in regards Augusta du Plessis

Citing Acts of Parliament

Can I cite an Act of Parliament (of India) as a source? How do I add the citation? I did not find an online version of the Act (at least not one that could be directly linked to). Also, I could not find a style for citing Acts in the Citations section. The Act I want to cite is the States Reorganisation Act, 1956. There is a Misplaced Pages article on this Act, but I read that one is not allowed to cite other Misplaced Pages articles as sources. --Manojb 17:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I can't see why not, as long as you're not using it for original research. If you can't link directly to it then try to link to a publication in which it has been included. If that's not possible then just give as much information about it as possible. The idea is to make it as easy as possible for someone else to look at your sources if they want to check them/do further research, so if you proceed with that in mind you should be fine.--Cherry blossom tree 23:06, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Rename an Article

I must rename the article Lake Ontario Shore Rail Road to "Lake Ontario Shore Railroad". How do you do that? --Railsmart

Renaming is just to move the page to the correct title. Click the "Move" tab, to the right of the "Edit this page" tab at the top of the article. Or ask here, we are happy to move it for you.--Commander Keane 17:48, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Editing an Edit Summary

I just edited an article and I forgot to use the edit summary feature. Oops. I'd really love to go back in and add one. I think they are so helpful to people to explain why you did what you did. But I can't figure out a way to get back in there and change it. Sam*

Thank you for your dilligence.Ther is not, however, any way to edit edit summaries. There is a way to force yourself to leave one, however. It is a javascript addition to your profile. You should copy and paste the following code to your skin file. If you don't know what I'm talking about, put on the page User:Sam*/monobook.js, which is where your user scripts are stored. You should check out Misplaced Pages:User scripts for more information or ask me on my talk page. —WAvegetarian•_{CONTRIBUTIONS}• •19:12, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

//****************** Are you sure you don't want a Summary? *******************************
//From http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:ABCD/monobook.js&oldid=19452182
function addForceSummary(){
    if(!/&action=edit/.test(window.location.href)) return;
    if(/&section=new/.test(window.location.href)) return;
    if(!document.forms.editform) return;
    document.forms.editform.wpSave.onclick = forceSummary;
}
function forceSummary(){
    var form = document.forms.editform;
    if(!form.wpSummary.value.replace(/^(\/\*.*\*\/)? *(.*) *$/,'$2')){
      var r = prompt('Are you sure you want to submit without adding a summary?\nTo add a summary, type it in the box below:',form.wpSummary.value);
      if(r == null) return false;
      form.wpSummary.value = r;
    }
    return true;
}

Has anyone gotten this to work on Internet Explorer? I will try it on Firefox at home, but I don't get anything on Internet Explorer. Cache is already cleared.--Adam 20:54, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I think there is code missing from the above. In the original code, addForceSummary() is called in the body onLoad event. I think you need to append the code below. ApolloCreed 21:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

addOnloadHook(addForceSummary);

Very good, that works- thanks for your prompt reply.--Adam 21:10, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Note: I've replaced the original complex onload hook code above with a simple call to addOnloadHook(). This function is part of wikibits.js, which is included on every page. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 23:01, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Style sheet names

I'm sure there must be a page in the Misplaced Pages: space to help me with this, but I can't find it. I'm using the "classic" skin. I followed the instructions on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/CloseAFD.js but I used "classic.js" where it referenced "monobook.js". After copying and pasting into classic.js, I bypassed my browser cache, then went off to try out the script. Nothing had changed, there was no beautiful "close" tab to help me out. My best guess is that I didn't get the name of the stylesheet right. Although maybe it's something else. moink 19:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I think the add_afd_tabs() function is not portable across skins. In any case, it seems like a fairly convoluted way to add tabs; using the addLink() helper function would be much simpler. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 19:20, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I guess I'll have to switch to monobook or live without the tabs. moink 19:39, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I've changed the script to use addLink(), so it should work for all skins now. Haven't tested it much, though. Please let me know how it works for you. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 12:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Big Images

Again, with the whole nation-flags-on-the-olympic-pages thing... The flag images are huge! With all these pages setting them at 20px(), would it be worth someone's effort if they were to just make smaller images for each of these flags? Would it result in enough saved WP resources (i.e. would it reduce bandwidth enough?) The thing is that on most of these pages, there are dozens of these flags loading up, and if I'm not mistaken, that's a bit of a waste because they load up at their full sizes before they are shrunk to fit the 20px requirement. tiZom_(2¢) 20:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Also could someone change the white colors slightly - the Argentinian flag looks bad enough but the Japanese flag looks like a simple red dot. Rmhermen 21:43, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

First, Misplaced Pages shrinks the images to 20px before they are sent to computers. Secondly, perhaps we could put borders around the images? (See what they've done at Japan.)

Sarah Dash of Labelle page

Hi,

I have added extensive material to this page, made corrections, and added an image. The page was bare when I first read it. With the approval of Ms. Dash's manager, it is now "good to go." However, at the bottom, there is still the box that says "This article is a stub." Since it's not a "stub" any longer, how do we get that removed?

Thanks! stonestroke2003@yahoo.com

Here is the direct link to the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/Sarah_Dash

You just delete the stub message like I have just done. And you don't have to get the approval of anyone's manager or publicist. This is an encyclopedia, not a marketing/media outlet. Dismas| 22:50, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Portuguese

I am using the English language Misplaced Pages in Firefox, and I have just noticed that the tabs on top of the page (discussion, history) and the words on the navigation toolbar are acting strangely. When I mouse over, the little tooltip that appears is in what appears to be Portuguese. (Mouse over 'Discussion', I get--Discussão sobre o conteúdo da página. alt-t) I do not live in or near Portugual. Am I the only one experiencing this strangeness, what is causing it, and how can I change it? Hyenaste 23:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

This line needs a disclaimer/cite sources

This change needs a "cite source" line, i dont feel the whole article needs a template at the top, but a sub/superscript disclaimer. I dont know how to find one and which one to and how to code it. Patcat88 00:40, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

You can use the template {{fact}} as if you were to be putting in an inline citation. -- Natalya 00:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

February 16

how do I add new information?

I searched for the term "artrock" and found no definition. It is a new but defineable and accepted description of a type of music, separate and distinct from any other, and increacingly popular in Britain. I just want to know how I can help put the definition on here.

Have you seen Art rock? If you find another topic we've missed on which you'd like to make a new article, read Help:Starting_a_new_page. Happy editing! moink 01:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

citing/reference

Misplaced Pages:Citing Misplaced Pages has information on how to cite Misplaced Pages articles. For regular citations, including different styles, see Citation. If your questions are about the latter type, they belong at the Reference Desk. -- Natalya 02:37, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

article visits counter

Is there a way to determine how many visits an article has had? --=Motorhead 01:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Not that I am aware of, but you can use the "What links here" link on the sidebar (in the toolbox below search) to see all the pages that link to a certain article/page, which can give you an idea of how much they are used. -- Natalya 03:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

As I understand it, there used to be one but it killed the servers so was turned off. Misplaced Pages:Most_referenced_articles might be of interest here.--Cherry blossom tree 11:05, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I thank you. Its too bad because it would be good to avoid writing articles NO ONE wants in favor of those in demand. --=Motorhead 02:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I asked this question a few months ago, because I'd really like to have one. I'd like to know if 5 people are reading what I write or 5,000. The respondants said that it can't be done because pages are cached to keep from having to read them from the server each time. A counter would only be accurate if it read from the server each time, I was told. Bubba73 (talk), 02:38, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Categories

How do you make(or create) a new category?

The section of Help:Category called How to create categories has all the information you should need. Be sure to look at Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (categories) before creating one, as well as making sure there is not already an identical/near-identical category. -- Natalya 03:38, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

does tx. also have thatright for a speedy trial?

Please read the notice at the top of this page. Also, when you post this to the reference desk you need to include more information that you did here. I don't know what sort of speedy trial you mean and I'm not sure who or what 'TX' is (Texas?) --Malthusian (talk) 09:08, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Citing dissertations

Is it ok to cite dissertations (which are well-referenced and heavily reviewed)? I would think so, but just asking for confirmation. P.S. I'm starting to like this place... :) 129.62.113.183 05:33, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I would have thought so. Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources is the relevant page here, but it doesn't specifically mention dissertations. If you want some more opininos you could ask on the talk page there, which seems to be fairly well populated. Glad you're having fun. --Cherry blossom tree 10:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes. (I've, er, cited mine a lot)... but if you're going to make heavy use of the dissertation please note on the talk page if you have access to a copy or not. Nothing's worse than trying to track down something as horribly obscure as someone's MA thesis... Shimgray | talk | 11:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Printing using the screen stylesheet

I asked awhile back about printing Misplaced Pages pages as shown without using the print stylesheet. No answer. So I followed the site's philosophy - "If you want it done right you have to do it yourself."

Here is a bookmarklet that disables the print stylesheet and makes the screen stylesheet the "all media" stylesheet. It's geared toward WP but in theory would work with any site with separate "screen" and "print" stylesheets. Here is the expanded code:

javascript:__pss=function()
{var i,h,t,x,s=document.styleSheets;
x="";
for(i=0; i<s.length; i++)
 {
  t=s.media;
  if(t.search("print") != -1)
   {s.disabled=true;
    x += "The print stylesheet was disabled.\n";
   }
 }
for(i=0; i<s.length; i++)
 {t=s.media;
  if(t.search("screen") != -1)
   {s.media="all";
    x += "The screen stylesheet applied to all media.";
   }
 }
if(x=="")
 {alert("Failed - no stylesheet properties changed.");}
 else{alert(x);}
};
__pss();

Consider this a beta version (more like the alpha version, since I'm the only one to test it so far.) It works with Internet Explorer 6. Your mileage with other browsers may vary. You may also get a "you sure about this?" warning when adding to your Bookmark/Favorites list. (Note that this works client-side only - it does not 'hack' the WP site itself.)

To install this bookmarklet in Internet Explorer, follow these steps:

• Make sure the Links toolbar is visible (ensure View/Toolbars/Links is checked).
• In the Favorites menu, select Add to Favorties...
• Type "Print using Screen Stylesheet" in the Name field.
• In the Create In box, select the Links folder. Click OK.
• Copy the this text (it's easier to scroll all the way to the right and select from right to left.)

  javascript:__pss=function(){var i,h,t,x,s=document.styleSheets;x="";for(i=0;i<s.length;i++){t=s.media;if(t.search("print") != -1){s.disabled=true;x += "The print stylesheet was disabled.\n";}}for(i=0;i<s.length;i++){t=s.media;if(t.search("screen") != -1){s.media="all";x += "The screen stylesheet applied to all media.";}}if(x==""){alert("Failed - no stylesheet properties changed.");}else{alert(x);}};__pss();

• Right-click on the new "Print using Screen Stylesheet" link in the Links bar, and select Properties.
• Paste the bookmarklet text into the URL field. Click OK.

Code corrections and other feedback welcome. Enjoy! --RevWaldo talk 07:03, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Reassigning edits from an IP to a UserName

I previously edited articles anonymously, but finally have set up an account and would like to reassign edits from my IP (68.102.222.4) to my username (AJHeuer). I found the following info on the MediaWiki FAQ but as a new user I had no idea what to do next, or if this is even something I can do. Thanks.

"How do I reassign edits from one user to another?

cd <path to mediawiki>
rm attribute.sql
php maintenance/attribute.php OldUserNameOrIP NewUserName
mysql < attribute.sql

Always start with a fresh sql file, since attribute.php appends to it. The nice thing is you can run attribute.php a bunch of times, then commit them with one run of mysql."

(http://meta.wikimedia.org/MediaWiki_FAQ#Why_should_I_use_MediaWiki.3F)

I think those instructions are for people who are running the software. It is possible for edits to be reassigned but since so many people want it doing the developers don't have enough time to actually do it. You can list yourself on Misplaced Pages:Changing attribution for an edit and see what happens, or you can just make a note of the Userpages of your two accounts pointing out that it is the same person behind them.--Cherry blossom tree 10:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Finding a page in wikipedia

dearsir,

Shall i would know the url of the page of Internet search engines?

• We have a search box at Special:Search which is also incorporated in the bar on the left of the screen. If you want to search wikipedia articles using for example Google, you should add site:en.wikipedia.org to the end of your query. - Mgm| 11:33, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

download

Hi

Can I download the entire wikipedia database, and then update it fromtime to time?

Lasse

• Go here for a database download (it's a huge file!): Misplaced Pages:Database_download Fetofs 12:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

i want to find pka &pkr values of aminoacids

You want to go to the reference desk.--Cherry blossom tree 15:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Category:Idea Bucket

How do you tag pages with the special link "Category:Idea Bucket"?

To put a page into a category, you would use ]. Category:Idea Bucket doesn't exist at the moment but will be automatically created when you put an article into it. I think.--Cherry blossom tree 16:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Directory of Registered Users

Is there a directory of registered users, where I could perhaps find a user and then click through to a list of all of his or her contributions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by David A Bozzini (talk • contribs) .

You can get a list of all users at Special:Listusers, which runs to several hundred thousand. If you just want to see a specific user's contributions then you can use Special:Contributions/User, where you replace User with the username whose contributions you want to view. Yours are at Special:Contributions/David A Bozzini, for example.--Cherry blossom tree 16:44, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

The latest stat counts 941,077 users. hydnjo talk 16:49, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

build video conference software

I want to build a video conference s.w . but I don't know where to start . what is the programming languge I can use to build a video conference s.w? what things that I should know in order to build this s.w? where can I find someone who can help me ?

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Malthusian (talk) 18:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

charlotte flight page: please don't delete

please don't delete the page charlotte flight, she's my alltime favourite character from the flight book, please, it's the only thing i have to remember her by

My dead grandmother's named after her, please, don't delete it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockingchick22 (talk • contribs)

What is the exact page name?--Adam 21:28, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I expect it's Charlotte flight, which was deleted three times for non-notability. Replied on user's talk page. --Malthusian (talk) 23:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

find imate

how do i find a relative

This page is for questions about Misplaced Pages policies and technical information. Your question belongs on the Misplaced Pages:Reference desk. Dismas| 22:18, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

TOILET CISTERN

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.200.98.120 (talk • contribs)

That's not a question. But if it was, it sounds like you're looking for the reference desk. This page is for questions about using and editing Misplaced Pages. You can also try the toilet article, or if you don't find the answer there, try clicking here to post your question on that article's talk page. --Malthusian (talk) 23:06, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

February 17

Trouble with redirect

Hello,

I did a search for "Time machine". The original page took me to "Time Travel". That's not what I wanted so I went back and set up a disambiguation page for "Time machine". It seemed to work ok. Then, when testing it, I did a search for "Time Machine". This took me to a much larger and more extensive disambiguation page. Oops on my part! I should have checked there first. So, I went to undo my work. I reverted to the original page for "Time machine" and edited its redirect from "Time Travel" to "Time Machine". However, this redirect doesn't seem to be working right. If I search for "Time machine" I get the disambiguation page that I made. What am I doing wrong? Clarkbhm 00:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm unsure of what you're trying to do so I rv'd back to the way Time machine was. hydnjo talk 00:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I fixed it again to redirect to the Time Machine disambiguation page instead of directly to time travel. Clarkbhm 00:33, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

No, you didn't quite fix it. Take a look at my edit on the disambig Time Machine first entry so you can see what needed to be done diff. --hydnjo talk 00:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages wide bug? or just me?

On a number of articles when I go to history and attempt to compare a fairly old (matter of weeks) edit with prior or later edits, I am getting the following message:

Warning: dl() : Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20050922/php_wikidiff2.so' - /usr/local/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20050922/php_wikidiff2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/DifferenceEngine.php on line 361

Fatal error: Call to undefined function wikidiff2_do_diff() in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/DifferenceEngine.php on line 363

Anyone know what's going on? Note that this is not on every one of my edits, but it must be faily common because I received this same message on three older edits I wanted to look a out of 10 (and I have never seen this error message before). --Fuhghettaboutit 01:13, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Never heard of anything like this. Misplaced Pages's servers are very busy and bugs are quite frequent. --Banana04131 02:11, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Checking IP address of a user

(heading added by Akamad 03:17, 17 February 2006 (UTC))

How does one user check another user's IP address? 02:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

You have to make a Checkuser request at Misplaced Pages:Requests for CheckUser. - Akamad 03:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

And even then, the admin who does the check is not going to tell you what the IP is. They will only tell you if it is being used by the two users you have asked about. User:Zoe| 19:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Then how is that another user who I don't believe has CheckUser status is able to determine my IP address and surmise where I compute from? Are they using some other method or is it only possible to do with CheckUser status? 22:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I think it is only possible with CheckUser status. --Banana04131 02:09, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

How to put Help desk in external link urls

Hi. I'd like to modify {{Move to Wiktionary}} and add search engine links at the bottom of the template. If the links are there, it's easier to test whether a phrase, word or idiom is indeed material for inclusion to Wiktionary or just another protologism (see wikt:Wiktionary:Criteria for inclusion). '' doesn't work. How do I do it in wiki markup?

The area, BTW, has a big backlog, so I figure any help to clear it will be appreciated. Thank you. --Perfecto Canada 03:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

The was something like this in {{disambig}} a while back . Try this?--Commander Keane 08:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately PAGENAMEE turns spaces in the name into underscores and ruins the search engine query. :( --Perfecto Canada 20:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

My entry got deleted

hi, there! for some reason, my entry got deleted. this was what it said:

"""In reference to the infamous LUE board, which was made private, three gamefaqs users have attempted to make a second LUE. Midnighta23, ptor07, and nick727kcin have all laid claim to the "Wonder Stadium '99" board and have deemed it "LUE 2" on February 16, 2006. Although it was Midnighta23 who first came up with the idea of making another LUE, all three have been named the owners of this certain board. This board can be found at http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=576642.""

this was not spam or litter. why did it get deleted?

ooops i forgot to sign the above question

--Nick727kcin 04:46, 17 February 2006 (UTC)    04:46, 17 February 2006 (UTC)~

• We do have an entry on those boards at LUE (GameFAQs). The entry you wrote was probably deleted for being a duplicate. - Mgm| 09:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

For various reasons (chief among them verifiability and neutral point of view) we, as an encyclopaedia, only include articles about things that are in some way notable, and we also discourage people from writing about themselves, clubs/forums they're in, etc. Most forums and other websites aren't notable; see WP:WEB for which ones are considered notable. --Malthusian (talk) 09:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

As the admin who deleted it, let me explain. It was deleted because the article was about a website which was created on the day the article was written, clearly making it fail WP:WEB, and it was written by a person about himself, thus failing WP:VAIN and WP:AUTO. User:Zoe| 19:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Indian eye hospitals list

can i get the list of eye hospitals in india

• Do not use this template. Use {{RD1}}, {{RD2}} or {{RD3}} instead. - Mgm| 09:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Me

Are there any requirements to create an aricle on yourself?

Yes. See WP:BIO. But if you create an account, you get your own userpage where you can write about yourself. - Akamad 07:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Even if you do meet WP:BIO, we generally discourage people from writing or editing articles about themselves; see WP:AUTO. If you are notable then someone else will write an article about you. --Malthusian (talk) 09:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Compact lists

How can I write a compact TOC-list? The ones that appears inline. -- Pål Drange

Do you mean the list that appears at the top of some articles, that begins Contents (hide) and continues with 1, 1.1, 1.2 etc.? If so, it is generated automatically from headings in the article. Headings are lines like ==top heading== or ===subheading=== and so forth – do not make headings just by using bold or italics. Notinasnaid 09:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

• Try {{compactTOC}}. - Mgm| 09:23, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Bret Hart link keeps getting removed by unknown user?

Hi, I have my site listed in the external links section for the wrestler Bret "The Hitman" Hart. It keeps being deleted by somebody, and I am assuming its not Misplaced Pages, because they would just ban my IP if i wasnt allowed to put it there. I was just wondering if you know of a way to prevent this, other than checking on a daily basis that its still there. My site is www.itechnet.co.uk, and my email address is << removed to protect you from spam >> . Thanks for your help in advance. Kevin Smith The entry is http://en.wikipedia.org/Bret_Hart#External_links

I am not sure you fully understand how Misplaced Pages works, so I hope these suggestions are helpful. There isn't any difference between "somebody" and "Misplaced Pages". Everyone is an editor and everyone is making Misplaced Pages. There are not really any unknown users, because you can read the History of the article (click the History link at the top) to see who made all changes, and what they were. There are often differences of opinion about whether things belong in an article, and the best way to deal with this is to start a discussion on the talk page for the article (click the Discussion link at the top of the article). The aim is to reach a consensus before the article is changed again, to avoid getting into battles (which can get the participants temporarily barred). I would recommend registering as a user, which is free and takes seconds. Fairly or unfairly, registered users are often taken more seriously. You should sign all contributions to talk pages (but never articles) by adding four tildes like this: ~~~~; that way people clearly know who is taking part in a discussion. Finally, it is usually not considered a good idea to add links to your own site. The argument goes that a really relevant site exists, it will be well known in the community of editors and there will be a consensus to add it, without any prompting from the site owner. Good luck, thank you for your contributions, and I hope your discussions produce a good result for the article. Notinasnaid 11:30, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Cheers bud, for three things, 1) your fast response, 2) showing me what wiki's all about, and 3) removing my email addy, i didnt think about spam!

Bosnian Language

Hi.. Can we get Bosnian language here on wikipedia.. I would help to translate a lot of articles..

my mail is (email address removed)

Thank you for answering

See http://meta.wikimedia.org/List_of_Wikipedias. It's already there! Notinasnaid 12:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks... It's my fault, I didn't see it.. thanks for fast reply..

FAs

Hi there, I have been looking for something along the lines of Misplaced Pages:List of users by number of featured article requests. I remember seeing it somewhere and I enjoyed the page, but I can no longer find it. Can anyone give me the link? Thanks, Hillhead15 13:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:List_of_Wikipedians_by_featured_article_nominations is being emphatically led by the esteem'd User:Lord Emsworth.--Cherry blossom tree 15:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Knowing the author of the article.

When I am viewing an article, how can I know who is the author?

Most articles have a group of authors rather than one author. To see who has worked on an article click the history tab at the top of the page. This will list who made changes, their edit summaries and allow you to view differences and older versions of the article. RJFJR 14:30, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

See also Misplaced Pages:Citing Misplaced Pages if this is what you're after. — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 15:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Changing all instances of an image

If I change an image to a new format, is there an automated way to change the image pointer on all instances of the image across all projects?

For instance, if I change Image:DoNotFeedTroll.jpg, which is being used on many hundreds of pages across all the projects, to a .png (which has been done) or .svg, is there an automated way of doing this, say with an existing bot? — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 15:04, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I think that probably is possible. You might want to ask at Misplaced Pages:Bot_requests which is where the bot-handlers hang out.--Cherry blossom tree 15:59, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

equations

I'm having trouble viewing equations on mathematics related pages of Misplaced Pages. Is there some sort of plug-in I need? If so where can I get it?70.225.182.63 15:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

What browser are you using? All our maths equations are rendered as .png which should be supported all fairly modern broswers without a plug-in. Is this a long term problem? If you've onyl noticed it over a brief period fo time it could have been a cock-up on our part which has since been fixed (they're displaying ok for me. Sorry I can't be more helpful.--Cherry blossom tree 16:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what is the problem. I recently had to reinstall all of my software because my hard drive kicked out, and I've only noticed this since then. I'm using IE, and my errors look like this:

Failed to parse (Can't write to or create math output directory): a_0x^4+a_1x^3+a_2x^2+a_3x+a_4=0,

Only, it's written in red (the hallmark of something gone awry). Maybe this helps somebody figure out what is up? Thanks in advance. 70.225.182.63 06:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

peace

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.71.103.91 (talk • contribs)

If you're looking for information about peace, try the Peace article. If you can't find the information there, try asking on the article's talk page or at the reference desk. If you're just Wikiediting while stoned, eating some pizza will help beat the munchies. --Malthusian (talk) 15:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Did lacemakers play stoolball?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.71.103.91 (talk • contribs)

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Malthusian (talk) 15:57, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Did lacemakers play stoolball?

I am trying to find out if this pastime was also played by lacemakers,since they could also take a candle-stool remove the flasks and one leg of the stool which acted as a bat,and a pin couchin which acted as a ball. In Malta we have a similar children's game called "bzallu." I am trying to establish if there is a resemblences.

  Sincerly, Iris — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.71.103.91 (talk • contribs) 

Please read what I wrote above this post (also copied this to the user's talk page). --Malthusian (talk) 16:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Flag

Could someone add a border to Image:Flag of Japan.svg so that it looks more like a flag instead of a dot. See the border on Image:Czechoslovakia flag.png. So this File:Czechoslovakia flag.png instead of Rmhermen 16:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons

I was uploading a bunch of pictures to the commons, and since I had another browser open to wikipedia, I accidently uploaded some to the English wikipedia. Is there any way that I can transfer them to Wikimedia commons? Or do I have to upload them to wikimedia commons and then request for them to be deleted from wikipedia? --Descendall 18:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

You have to upload to commons and request speedy deletion here. --cesarb 19:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Input to talk pages

how do I add my input to the talk/discussion pages? Whenever I attempt to add a comment to the bottom of the page my curser does not react.Have I been banned? Randazzo56 20:08, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

• Posting on talk pages is much the same as on the reference desk. If your cursor isn't responding, then perhaps your browser isn't allowing editing of large pages, try to click the lowest section edit link (to the right of a header) to edit these pages. If you can post here, you haven't been banned. - Mgm| 20:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
• Most talk pages are edited by going into them and clicking the 'edit' tab at the top of the page or the ' text at the top of every section to edit a single section. Does that help? I was initially baffled as to how you could post here and not on talk pages, but perhaps you were using the special "Click here to ask your question" button on the Help Desk and didn't know how to use the 'edit' button on normal pages. Sorry if I'm going into an insulting level of detail. --Malthusian (talk) 20:33, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Why was British Academy of Film and Television Arts moved?

and what does GMTY, CMTV and MTV IL mean? I'm being redirected back and forth between those redirects which have nothing to do with Bafta. Could somebody please rectify this mess? I would do it myself, but I'd probably disarrange it even more...84.175.244.22 21:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism, I think. Sorting it now. Resolved, and I've asked the user involved to be a bit more careful about pagemoves in future. Shimgray | talk | 21:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!84.175.244.22 21:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

discussion/talk pages

The instructions at the top of the talk pages state that to start a new topic one must "Place comments that start a new topic at the bottom of the page and give them a descriptive message". My curser does not react to anything at the bottom of the page. How do I start a new topioc Randazzo56 21:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

You can either click on 'edit' right at the top, and then scroll down to the bottom of the page and add your comment there, or you can click on the lowest section edit button, which looks like this: "" and is on the right of every heading (the bits in large, bold text). Adding text below the lowest section will make it appear at the bottom of the page. --Malthusian (talk) 21:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Page Hits

Is it possible to tell how many hits any given page on wikipedia gets? --Username132 22:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

This question was asked further up the page. I reproduce it here for your own convenience. --Cherry blossom tree 22:37, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Is there a way to determine how many visits an article has had? --=Motorhead 01:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Not that I am aware of, but you can use the "What links here" link on the sidebar (in the toolbox below search) to see all the pages that link to a certain article/page, which can give you an idea of how much they are used. -- Natalya 03:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

As I understand it, there used to be one but it killed the servers so was turned off. Misplaced Pages:Most_referenced_articles might be of interest here.--Cherry blossom tree 11:05, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I thank you. Its too bad because it would be good to avoid writing articles NO ONE wants in favor of those in demand. --=Motorhead 02:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I asked this question a few months ago, because I'd really like to have one. I'd like to know if 5 people are reading what I write or 5,000. The respondants said that it can't be done because pages are cached to keep from having to read them from the server each time. A counter would only be accurate if it read from the server each time, I was told. Bubba73 (talk), 02:38, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

You may want to say something about it at the Village Pump then. -- Natalya 23:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

February 18

Box

On my Boy Scout Troop's , there is a link box at the bottom of the page to google. I want to add one to Misplaced Pages. How would I go about doing this? schyler 02:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure it's not possible. If you just want it on your user page then you can link to Google using the normal syntax. If you wanted to put it anywhere else then it wouldn't be allowed anyway. Sorry. --Cherry blossom tree 10:56, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

That's not what he asked, CBT. He asked for a searchbox that allows searching Misplaced Pages for his own site. Try User:MacGyverMagic/Notebook#Search_box - Mgm| 14:20, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

wedding rehearsal dinners

Please read the notice at the top of this page. -- Natalya 04:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Problems with coding

I'm not a noob to coding in general, but I'm totally stumped by the way wiki handles user scripts, and I've been searching endlessly for ways to get them to work (there are a couple so called tutorials that I found, though they didn't help much) with no luck.

I want to employ user scripts for things like AfD automation or adding a {{not verified}} tag, all of which are included in the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject User scripts page, but I can't seem to get beyond the first stage.

I read that you need to add something to LocalPreferences.php to force wiki to recognize scripts as scripts (instead of text) but I'm not really sure exactly where LP.php actually is/is supposed to be, I assume User:Freshgavin/LocalPreferences.php? Even creating that doesn't seem to produce any results ... and after creating different instances of monobook.js I still obtain similar results, strange formatting and no effect... even after purging and everything. Maybe I'm missing something really basic? Thanks for any help.  freshgavinΓΛĿЌ  04:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok well I think I get that localprefs is only relevant to users in general, but wiki creators, but I still can't get any of the scripts (that I copied from the tutorial page) to work properly.  freshgavinΓΛĿЌ  07:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

The standard instructions here are to clear your cache. That seems to fix things like this. See WP:CACHE for more advice.--Cherry blossom tree 10:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know about that. That's not it though. I think it's probably the fact that I'm using IE, and many of the steps described are meant for firefox etc. Thanks anyways.  freshgavinΓΛĿЌ  10:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

time stamp

The time stamp on page histories - are they always set to reflect Florida time, or my preference (I'm in the same time zone as Florida)? Do all the time stamps I see reflect MY preference -- so that two users looking at the same edit might see two different time stamps? Or what? Thanks! Herostratus 09:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

No, when you sign a page (using ~~~~) the date is hard-coded on the page in UTC. Date preferences only change timezones when looking in the Watchlist, History, Recent changes etc - not on talk pages.--Commander Keane 10:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

UTC is 5 hours ahead of Florida time, if that is relevant to y'all. --Cherry blossom tree 10:42, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

television game show

there was a game show called a word in your era on uk tv in the early 1990s shown around 9pm 10pm uk time it was scrapped after 6-8 shows . it was made by channel x in england shown on bbc 2 . i know it has been sold on to north american tv ,it has a new name called youre history. please could you send all information related to this programme as i wish somehow to own all the episodes

Please read the notice at the top of this page. --Malthusian (talk) 16:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

autobiography

hello everyone, I realise that you folks involved in the wikipedia project are closely entangled with the open source movement, and therefore are completely against elitism. I noticed that a number of biographies of prominent figures appear in your encyclopedia, and I think that if these people can have a portrait of their life exhibited to the world then I should also have that opportunity. Therefore I would like to post a mini-autobiography about myself as an article in wikipedia. Would anybody know how to do this?

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