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:How can anyone even think about supporting this? American football is a national sport with no international significance whatever. ITN will be such a joke if this goes up. '''Obvious support''' --]]] 12:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:How can anyone even think about supporting this? American football is a national sport with no international significance whatever. ITN will be such a joke if this goes up. '''Obvious support''' --]]] 12:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::However, its international significance should be discussed,but this is no place for it. Please, don't initiate it and remain serious.--] (]) 14:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::Whether its international significance should be discussed or not, this is no place for it. Please, don't initiate it and remain serious.--] (]) 14:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:'''Support''' As I promised before, I support this since it really is a significant sports event.--] (]) 14:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:'''Support''' As I promised before, I support this since it really is a significant sports event.--] (]) 14:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:'''Bet''': This will have more opposes than the sumo event above. –''']''' (]) 15:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:'''Bet''': This will have more opposes than the sumo event above. –''']''' (]) 15:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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People demonstrate against the Mubarak regime for the thirteenth consecutive day, dubbed the "Day of Martyrs" in memory of those killed. (Press TV)(Al Jazeera)(The Guardian)
Protestors express anger at the governments of France, Israel and the United States due to their support of the thirty-year Mubarak dictatorship. (Press TV)
Human Rights Watch expresses increased concerns at the continuing targeting by the Egyptian authorities of journalists, human rights defenders, and youth activists, while another Al Jazeera reporter is arrested. (The Guardian)(The Guardian)
An Israeli man is released from custody. (Press TV)
Traffic to Al Jazeera's English-language website, which features a live stream of events, increases by 2,500 per cent during the past week of its coverage of the events in Egypt, with as much as 60 per cent of this coming from the United States. (Los Angeles Times)
Police in Tunisia kill at least two people during a protest in the northwestern town of El Kef demanding the resignation of a police chief - crowds retaliate by burning the police station. (BBC), (Houston Chronicle)(Al Jazeera)
The Indian Army insists it is to inquire "on its own" the death of a man in Kashmir, allegedly killed in an army ambush. His family says he was snatched from his home before being shot. (Sify)(Kashmir Observer)
The European Union's foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton expresses what she believes is the even more crucial need for progress in peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians due to events in Egypt and other countries. (Sunday Independent)
Support. Those years are more than long enough (George W. Bush was around for a similar period of time) and the article states "At the age of 88, he was the world's oldest head of state". --candle•wicke16:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Great acheivement: hope he made loads for his chosen charities, but not competitive races, and successive marathoning is not a competitive sport: he is world champion at something that no-one else does, and to that extent it is equivalent to a world record standing on one leg in a bucket of baked beans while reciting Shakespeare's sonnets in Sanstrit and flipping pancakes. Kevin McE (talk) 14:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Actually he beat the record of a bit less marathon-crazy Japanese runner, so that's not something that no-one else does. GreyHood14:54, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Support if there's a suitable update. Sumo should really be featured on ITN & ITNR. I imagine it's difficult to find refs in English though.--Johnsemlak (talk) 08:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Until now it might have been a decent idea, but with the debacle from this scandal, the sport will surely lose a ton of interest. Nergaal (talk) 08:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
You have very nice point here. All countries are equal, and should be regarded as such. Every classification is by prominence, which becomes bias.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Or rather, it's the country that nobody feels the need to name, on the assumption that everyone reading automatically knows which one it is. 87.112.177.117 (talk) 13:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
We could add this to the blizzard article. Maybe it will be eligible for DYK instead. ...Maybe. ~AH115:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
How can anyone even think about supporting this? American football is a national sport with no international significance whatever. ITN will be such a joke if this goes up. Obvious support --PlasmaTwa212:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
U.S. TV coverage of the uprising in Egypt is criticised for being both pessimistic and superficial and for its focus on what events mean for the U.S. and its regional allies. (Al Jazeera)
Comedian Steve Coogan criticises the presenters of BBC television series Top Gear in relation to their recent insulting of Mexicans. He also criticies the BBC's "pitiful" and "mealy-mouthed" apology after it offended Mexicans. (The Guardian)
UK prime minister David Cameron uses an important speech at a security conference in Munich to say "state multiculturalism" has failed, adding that the UK needs a stronger national identity and promising to promote Western values. (BBC)(Al Jazeera)(The Guardian)
The largest anti-government demonstration in years occurs in Belgrade, with thousands of disenchanted Serbs travelling to the parliament building from across the country to call for early elections there. An opposition party leader at the event compares it to the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt. (BBC)(Deutsche Welle)(Reuters)
Second-place Arsenal become the first team since the establishment of the Premier League in 1992 to blow a 4–0 lead, as Newcastle United storm back to draw 4–4.
The Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and US Secretary Hillary Clinton met in Munich to exchange the ratifications of both countries. The new treaty replaces the old one, which came into effect in 1991 and expired in December 2009.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm not a follower of cricket so I'll allow others to comment on how significant this is but 5+year bans in a sport as big a cricket seems pretty notable to me. And all three players were full internationals. I'm fairly certain if three starters for Manchester United were banned for 5 years there would be pressure to post.--Johnsemlak (talk) 17:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
As I understand it, all professional play sanctioned by the ICC. So that would include all professional domestic leagues in ICC member countries (ie everywhere with even a vague interest in cricket). Modest Genius19:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Support. Major match-fixing scandal, the biggest since Hanse Cronje. Criminal charges are due to follow (along with the inevitable appeal). Is there not a centralised article on the affair that we could bold-link? Modest Genius19:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Support This scandal was famous from the time it started; posting a piece of news would be a good decision now that the final decision has pretty much been announced. 124.187.1.155 (talk) 21:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Support I'm don't know anything about cricket, but if these were football/baseball/whatever American sport players, it'd undoubtedly get posted (and with good reason, too). Especially significant since it's apparently a worldwide ban. C628 (talk) 23:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
It is not clear yet if the pipeline or which branch was exploded; however, gas supplies were stopped due to the explosion. Beagel (talk) 09:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Support. Good enough article, international significance, and a way to push the Egyptian topic to the top of the template. GreyHood17:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Support; decent article, it seems like a large enough pipeline that a shutdown, even partial, has repercussions. Though I don't see how it can be linked to the protests, it's the state television, hardly a reliable source, who says that, while the operator of the pipeline, who would presumably know more about it, just said it was an accident. C628 (talk) 23:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Al Jazeera's Cairo office is stormed by "gangs of thugs" who ransack it and set it on fire as attacks on foreign journalists continue. (The Guardian)
Reporter Bert Sundström of Swedish public broadcaster SVT, reported missing yesterday, is hospitalised and undergoing surgery for serious "knife injuries" in Cairo after being kidnapped and stabbed. (AFP via The Swedish Wire)
The chiefs of the European Union condemn the violence and a statement is jointly issued by Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Spain. (AFP via The Australian)
Plainclothes Syrian security agents are deployed outside Parliament in Damascus ahead of the anti-government demonstrations there. (CP via Google News)
At least ten people are killed and several others injured in separate incidents of violence across Afghanistan. (PressTv)
Business and economy
Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, and Nicolas Sarkozy, the President of France, jointly propose a new set of policies for the euro zone defined to defend the euro as a currency, such as higher retirement ages and the abolition of inflation-indexed wages. (Reuters)
A court in Canada strikes down the government's decision to allow Globalive to operate a wireless telecomm network in that country, given the extent of foreign holdings. (Reuters)
Researchers report that fishing rates in the Arctic are 75 times higher than those reported by the U.N., suggesting future increased exploitation is less possible than previously thought. (Reuters)
I've been asked to nominate this. Prime Minister is the actual leader of Nepal, while President of Nepal is largely ceremonial figure. So, as an election of a world leader, this nomination is WP:ITN/R. The article about Khanal needs a bit of expansion and referencing, though. It would be nice if someone helped improving the subject article. GreyHood15:30, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
The orange box at the top of the article should go away first. Then, no problem with posting. --Tone17:38, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
The box is gone. The article is not very impressive still, but has all the usual decoration. Perhaps, after exposing it on the MP it could be further improved by more editors. GreyHood21:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Oppose bumping for now, wait until a significant development and then update. We're already keeping this item on the ITN artificially by removing second-to-last items and that's enough. --Tone17:38, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
After the condemned general elections in the country he won in November 2010, Thein Sein is named as new president of Burma, thus becoming the first civilian president after nearly 50 years of military rule.BBC
Ready to post when I see some more support and a couple of sentences more in the article (some more update is needed and the article is short at the moment). However, for NPOV, we should avoid condemning the election in the blurb and go with a very technical saying. --Tone17:38, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
The article is updated, and I tweaked it a little bit. More appropriate blurb could be:
In the discussion about the oil price rise, people suggested that they would support an all-time record rather than a purely symbolical mark of $100 per barrel. Well, now we have an all-time historical record with food prices, which allow us to feature a quite good 2007–2008 world food price crisis article. GreyHood00:59, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Support - hugely important; contributed in part to the protests in Tunisia and Algeria and will likely cause all kinds of instability elsewhere. Cjs2111 (talk) 06:40, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
And these prices will be exceeded next year, and next year's prices the year after that... Can a section called In The News point, in 2011, to an article entitled for 2007-2008 data without being open to ridicule? OpposeKevin McE (talk) 07:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
You're saying something happening now isn't worthy of posting because something similar happened three years earlier? Guess we'd better stop posting elections and sports championships on ITN; they're actually certain to be repeated versus the alarming fact of record food prices. Cjs2111 (talk) 07:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
No, I'm saying we can't use the link to food prices that refers to a specific situation 3 years ago. Sports events have, at least potentially, a new result each year, elections, hopefully, can return new governments from time to time: prices have a consistent long term upward trend. Kevin McE (talk) 19:56, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
If you mean the record petrol prices in 2008, there couldn't have been any sense in posting them at that time, because the prices were setting new records as often as every new day or so, and the general trend was going up for several years until rather steep collapse in the late 2008 and 2009. What we have now with the food prices, is the restoration and surpassing of the previous historical peak of 3 years ago, and that's really rare and important event, especially in the context of the present political turmoil in the Arab world. GreyHood19:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Just interesting, why do you think there is any dubious objectivity? The rise of food prices has been quite obvious, especially in such states as Egypt and other Arab states which are now in civic chaos. GreyHood19:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Prices rising relative to what? All commodities are undergoing inflation worldwide. Prices are set according to currencies, and the actual values of currencies fluctuate. The proposal makes a grand, sweeping, historical statement out of a modern bureaucratic index of limited context based on too many hidden assumptions. At best the blurb would have to be either "The UN-sponsored FOA Index of food prices hits an all time high" or "nflation is really bad" That is far different from saying that the actual cost of food is at an all time high relative to man-hours of work or ounces of gold needed to purchase 1500 calories.μηδείς (talk) 21:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Support as nominator. And really, I don't think that recently on ITN there have been any news as important as this one, on global scale. GreyHood19:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Comment. By the way, this also could be combined with the 2010-2011 Arab world protests, which many users suggested to feature on ITN:
This is not synthesis, but a good way to feature the 2010-2011 Arab world protests and render the news about global food prices historic record. Food price inflation is considered one of the reasons behind all or most of the protest wave cases in Arab countries. GreyHood23:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Support in principle, but oppose combining the blurb with anything else. We also need to be clear exactly what has reached a new high, rather than just saying food prices (which is a bizarre redirect). I suggest:
with a bold-link added to wherever the best place for the update is (ref ). A new article on the index itself would probably be the best solution to that conundrum. Modest Genius23:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Agree with this variant if the combination with the Arab protests is declined. However, the prices may continue rising and setting new historic records every next month when the index is released, so it is important to mention that the levels of the 2007–2008 world food crisis were surpassed, and that's why the ongoing phase of the price rising is particularly notable. "Food Price Index reaches a its highest level since records began" should be changed to "Food Price Index reaches its historic peak, surpassing the level of the 2007–2008 world food crisis".GreyHood00:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: I have to agree with μηδείς that the price of food is declining relative to work-hours per X calories a day, which is the best measure of the price of food. Nominal food prices tend to grow due to inflation, but real prices decline in time due to development of technology and productivity. If you look carefully at the referenced FAO article, many of the trends are seasonal or temporary (meet, rice, sugar,...). Also, commodities/stock prices tend to be tightly associated with the global economic growth, hence the correlation with the 2008 highs. Crnorizec (talk) 01:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Egyptian prime minister Ahmad Shafiq says "sorry" for all the violence that has occurred in Tahrir Square and promises there will be no more. (Al Jazeera)
Journalists from Al Jazeera and the BBC are among those targeted in fresh attacks from Mubarak regime "thugs". The UK's Channel 4 News reports that Mubarak's "secret police" are threatening journalists to keep off the streets of Cairo. (The Guardian)
Prominent Egyptian blogger and anti-Mubarak activist sandmonkey is arrested and his blog is taken offline by authorities in Egypt. (The Guardian)(Hot Air)
Egyptian state television forments the unrest by reporting that "Israeli spies" have infiltrated Cairo, leading to an increase in antisemitic sentiment among the pro-Mubarak forces attacking people and journalists on the streets. (Al Jazeera)(Jewish Telegraphic Agency)(Channel 4 News)
Two Al Jazeera journalists are attacked on their way from the airport to central Cairo. (The Guardian)
Nile TV (state television) journalist Shahira Amin, deputy head of the station, resigns after being threatened and intimidated; she tells Al Jazeera "I can't be part of the propaganda machine and I refuse to be a hypocrite", adding that she feels "liberated". (iloubnan)(Gulf News)
Mobile phone firm Vodafone says the Egyptian authorities have hijacked its network to send unattributed text messages supporting the government. (BBC)
Egypt's attorney-general bans several former ministers and Ahmed Ezz, a prominent member of the ruling party who resigned last week, from travelling abroad; their bank accounts are also frozen. (Al Jazeera)
Video footage emerges on YouTube of a police van being driven at high speed into peacefully marching anti-regime protesters. (The Guardian)(Direct link)
2011 Syrian protests: Social media mobilises the people of Syria for rallies demanding freedom, human rights and the end to emergency law, scheduled for Friday and Saturday in front of the parliament in Damascus and at Syrian embassies internationally. (Al Jazeera)
A former policeman questions the suicide verdict recorded in the 1979 death of French cabinet minister Robert Boulin, claiming he could not have drowned. His family believe he was murdered. (BBC)
Antigovernment protesters clash with supporters of President Hosni Mubarak in Egypt, while foreign journalists and human rights activists have been detained by the police.NYTimes
Support as nominator I think the blurb with the happy face of Mr. Mubarak does not reflect the recent events, so maybe it needs a refreshment? Crnorizec (talk) 22:34, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
By "few" you mean 300 hearts bled to death and 3.000 partially until two days ago, plus 13 bled to death and 1.200 injured only in the past two days? Maybe that's why he's smiling from our front page, for being so efficient? Crnorizec (talk) 00:58, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
What's your point, exactly? Mubarak is the central figure in this conflict and (I assume) this is the best photo that we have of him. What do you want it to be, a photo of him crying? --PlasmaTwa201:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
This section of the main page does not exist to host news stories or photos that you support or that you find appealing. It exists to host stories that are in the news. Mubarak's announcement is the big news, so the photo is of him. Perhaps now or tomorrow the protests themselves sideline the announcement, so we switch the photo. But we switch it for that reason, not because we don't like Mubarak.--Chaser (talk) 02:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
This topic needs to be bumped and updated, maybe to coincide with an update related to today's massive protest. There's been no mention of the violent clashes, the multiples of dead, the beaten and detained journalists, etc. Cjs2111 (talk) 06:45, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I almost posted something similar based on the thread below. I think there is consensus to post that Saleh is not running, but the article is in mediocre shape; help updating it and adding detail would be appreciated. A few other things. Million person protests are often called. Usually the turnout is lower. This is no exception. The media is reporting 20,000 in Sana'a today. In light of that, I'd say the President's announcement, after or amid protests, is the big news. We're not indymedia. We shouldn't advertise big expectations for protests that haven't panned out. Finally, does anyone have any blurb suggestions so that we do not exactly parallel the Mubarak blurb? If this gets posted, it will be immediately above the Mubarak blurb.--Chaser (talk) 16:59, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
In that case, how about Thousands protest in Sana'a, the capital of Yemen, after Ali Abdullah Saleh announces he will (not) step down (until) in 2013. Obviously, the words in parenthesis are a matter of semantics, if we want to emphazise that they are protesting because he is waiting until 2013. Grsz1117:23, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Does that imply to you that the opposition is doing all the protesting? We've got al Jazeera reporting that thousands are protesting in support of Saleh.--Chaser (talk) 22:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
remove Sanaa and just put yemen, buig protests in Aden too. Even if it didnt meet a million its still the biggest and the yemeni movement is a potential hotbed.
Posted No one else seems to think the article is a problem, and it meets the criteria. My other two concerns have been addressed and I don't see anything else outstanding. Most of the opposition below was to a combined blurb with other items.--Chaser (talk) 05:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
But the second sentence is perhaps the most interesting part! What matters is when the first RIR runs out, since we in theory have to have all switched to IPv6 by then to preserve the end-to-end routable Internet (or we will not be able to talk to the new IPv6-only devices from that RIR). The ICAN exhaustion is an big milestone, but only interesting as such because it foreshadows RIR exhaustion. Thue | talk10:22, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Comment/question — sufficient support aside, if the article (as Tariq suggests) isn't updated, why are we posting? And more importantly, why is the admin who posted it to ITN the same user who nominated the item? Isn't that a bit of a conflict? Strange Passerby (talk • contribs) 15:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
We knew exactly what would happen and when, my blurp suggestion had been posted for 15 hours, and all who had posted had agreed to the first sentence of my blurb. So I saw it as uncontroversial. Thue | talk15:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Tariq didn't say the article wasn't updated, he asked if it was. I checked that the article was updated when I posted (it was). Yes, I posted my own suggestion, but only because it had unanimous support. If it hadn't had unanimous support, then I would have let somebody else post it. Thue | talk15:23, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
SP, this ITN item has been proposed twice more in the past week, both times towards support/wait for something official. Nergaal (talk) 15:52, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
In general I would prefer an uninvolved administrator to do the posting, and certainly not post their own nominations. However, in this case (and bearing in mind the earlier discussions) there was such clear consensus and overwhelming support that Thue was perfectly justified in posting it. Just don't make it a habit :p Modest Genius23:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Mohamed ElBaradei, an emerging leader of anti-regime protests, and other protesters say that Mubarak must leave Egypt by Friday at the latest to avoid further bloodshed and turmoil. (The Australian)
The protestors increase their demands for the end of the Mubarak regime and are not impressed by Hosni Mubarak's promise to resign at the end of his current term. (Al Jazeera)
Mubarak supporters, rumored to be directed by the Mubarak regime, protest in central Cairo, Alexandria and other cities, attacking anti-government protestors with stones, knives and Molotov cocktails. (The Washington Post)
Some supporters of the Mubarak regime ride horses and camels and attack anti-government protesters with whips. (AP via The Guardian)
Fourteen job seekers traveling home on the rooftop of an overcrowded train, are killed when they hit a low overhead bridge in northern India. (Times of India)(Jerusalem Post)
Comment: I am a bit worried that the press release calls them "Planet Candidates", and writes "Candidates require follow-up observations to verify they are actual planets.". How preliminary is this? In any case, the Kepler (spacecraft) and Goldilocks planet articles should be updated. Thue | talk22:47, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Support nominating this as above. The known number of candidate planets was about 500 until now and kepler more than tripled it. I think that by itself is super notable. Statistically speaking, a significant number of the 50 will be actual planets. Nergaal (talk) 00:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
There have been various requests to include a link to 2010–2011 Arab world protests on the main page. It doesn't quite fit with any of the individual country blurbs, and there is no consensus yet to combine all this news. How about a single line about the mass protests in general?--Chaser (talk) 17:17, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Oppose single general line. While the article is really good, having such a standalone blurb is really excessive when we have two other blurbs that indicate to the protests. Either it should be combined with the current blurbs, or posted with additional information, such as the rise in oil prices. GreyHood17:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Support with expansion - as stated in the Saleh item below, I support merging all Arab world protest items under a single headline that incorporates the comprehensive 2010-2011 Arab world protests article. These things have NOT been happening in isolation from one another. Egypt should obviously top the list of events following the link to the overview article, but ITN needs to make note of the connections here. Cjs2111 (talk) 21:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
which didn't cause it to appear on main page, and had a great deal of comments saying wait until landfall. landfall has happened.--Mongreilf (talk) 18:53, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Over 33,000 new space rocks are found in the Solar system
Weak oppose: IMO these type of discoveries are quite frequent in the astronomical world, and are not that significant. Besides, from what I've read (quickly), these numbers are just the totals of discoveries over a period of time, and not a "bulk discovery" which I initially thought upon reading post. Rehman16:07, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Actually WISE has made a huge leap in the number of known asteroids, and is significant (though the NEOWISE portion on its own probably isn't). However, I'd wait for a peer-reviewed end-of-mission paper first, rather than a single press release. Modest Genius00:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
It's long, but it will take less place than two current blurbs (Egypt and Jordan) and the new proposed blurb (Yemen). GreyHood13:32, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Support, on its own... These are all important, separate sets of events affecting completely different countries. There's too much going on in that blurb. Nightw13:38, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Support all. The series of Arab world protests are all linked as they were all triggered by the successful Tunisia protests and have resulted in multiple head of state removals in a short time period. Potential major reprecussions for the entire world at large. ~AH114:33, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Oppose merging all The Egypt situation is a story of far greater importance than the other two. Egypt is more important than Jordan and Yemen politically. The protests in Egypt are much larger than those in Jordan and Yemen. Mubarak is finishing his term in September, but Saleh is finishing his term in 2013. More people know who the President of Egypt is than the Prime Minister of Jordan or the President of Yemen. The fact of the matter is Egypt is the big story, and the other two are of secondary importance. Combine the Yemen and Jordan stories, but leave the Egypt story on its own. -- tariqabjotu16:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Oppose the combined blurb: too long and crams too many items in there. I'll weak oppose the Saleh announcement too. His term ends a while from now; he could change his mind and run again. Makeemlighter (talk) 16:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Using that logic, Mubarak could change his mind as well. Something isn't not news just because it could change again in the future... Cjs2111 (talk) 22:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
map is wrong, there is no regime change in jordan if egypt (with more change) is not considered regime change.
also TOMORROW is more pertinent to yemen than today. one announcement by a pol leader doesnt constitie anything. but tomorrow is planned to be a massive protest in sanaa.(Lihaas (talk) 21:43, 2 February 2011 (UTC)).
The Saleh announcement is as important as Mubarak's in and of itself; we can always change the blurb if tomorrow's protests wind up being significant enough that we feel it's necessary. Cjs2111 (talk) 22:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Oppose for now. It's big, yes, but nothing terribly notable has happened so far. If we start hearing about lots of damages, deaths, etc., then I'd change to support. Makeemlighter (talk) 16:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
The storm has resulted in one of the largest series of flight cancellations (bar 9/11) in decades. Today alone, 5,500 flights were canceled. (Reuters) Three possible storm-related deaths near Chicago. (Chicago Tribune) Two confirmed deaths, one in both Oklahoma and Michigan. (UPI) Cities from Texas to Maine have been paralyzed by the storm and hundreds of thousands are without power. (NPR) Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:09, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Comment: If Cyclone Yasi went up (0 fatalities), then this definitely should, because this affects more people and actually resulted in fatalities. Spencer21:24, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Deaths alone do not make something newsworthy. Over 1000 children probably died of malaria yesterday (and similarly the day before that, and so on). A cyclone is more newsworthy than a winter storm, other things being equal. And it's a bit early to be sure Yasi caused no fatalities. --Avenue (talk) 22:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
article needs work. There is barely any mention of canadian cities. most pictures seem to be from same road in chicago... -- Ashish-g5514:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Oppose A snowstorm happened in the winter? I mean, come on, folks. Wake me when people die, and species go extinct. I would even say this is already old news, if it were news. But it's not. μηδείς (talk) 06:17, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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