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| What I think this entry lacks - and which may lead some editors to think it should be deleted - is an account of the position IMS occupies within modern Buddhism. As I understand it, IMS is a US offshoot of what might reasonably be called the "] revival" inspired by ], which also took root in the UK. This is a really important development: seeking to draw from Buddhism life-changing inspirations in personal life. |
What I think this entry lacks - and which may lead some editors to think it should be deleted - is an account of the position IMS occupies within modern Buddhism. As I understand it, IMS is a US offshoot of what might reasonably be called the "] revival" inspired by ], which also took root in the UK. This is a really important development: seeking to draw from Buddhism life-changing inspirations in personal life. It probably only requires a couple of paragraphs to keep everyone happy. ] (]) 11:10, 29 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
| Deleted: one misleading and derogatory statement about Mahayaana Buddhism. We should not engagge in slander or partisanship. | |||
| More to the point, this article lacks any statement of actual credentials, lineage history, or in other words, from whom and where Kornfield, Salzman, or Goldstein received authority to teach Buddhism. I know they have been questioned on this a number of times, and I also know they have refused to supply an answer. Without authorization, teaching the dharma is utter heresy. | |||
| The other good reason the article should be deleted is that is informs on nothing and functions only as a self-interested advertisement. | |||
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Fact check, verify source.
I've added a tag to the following statement:
- The Retreat Center is one of the two largest vipassana centers in the United States.
...with the given footnote being
- Fronsdal (1988). Jack Kornfield's "Spirit Rock" is the other large vipassana center.
This footnote is not complete enough to allow for verification of the source. The reason I feel this is dubious is because SN Goenka's organization operates 14 centers in the US, and while not a single center, merits inclusion. Also, there is Bhante Henepola Gunaratana's Bhavana Society] in WV. Both centers differ from IMS and Spirit Rock in that they do not charge for retreats. -- Bill Huston 19:19, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- I removed the reference since there doesn't seem to be much to support it. I also removed the new citation of the "Dummies" book; I would like to see some consensus on this source before it's included because so far as I can tell the only mention of Insight is as an address listing, which only establishes an address.--otherlleft 04:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I have to agree with the above notes, plus all Buddhists engage in Vispashyana, or vipassana, so it is wrong to make this seem as if it is something exclusive to IMS. There are many larger meditation centers in the US. Dharma Realm University operates a much larger meditation center, engaged in vipassana, for just one example. There are larger centers in Hawaii, California, Colorado, and NY that I know of. The claim by IMS is utterly insupportbale. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.245.97 (talk) 17:04, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
IMS approach and philosophy
What I think this entry lacks - and which may lead some editors to think it should be deleted - is an account of the position IMS occupies within modern Buddhism. As I understand it, IMS is a US offshoot of what might reasonably be called the "Theravada revival" inspired by Ajahn Chah, which also took root in the UK. This is a really important development: seeking to draw from Buddhism life-changing inspirations in personal life. It probably only requires a couple of paragraphs to keep everyone happy. Bluehotel (talk) 11:10, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Deleted: one misleading and derogatory statement about Mahayaana Buddhism. We should not engagge in slander or partisanship.
More to the point, this article lacks any statement of actual credentials, lineage history, or in other words, from whom and where Kornfield, Salzman, or Goldstein received authority to teach Buddhism. I know they have been questioned on this a number of times, and I also know they have refused to supply an answer. Without authorization, teaching the dharma is utter heresy.
The other good reason the article should be deleted is that is informs on nothing and functions only as a self-interested advertisement.
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