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• 2005.09.22 Sitka Spruce range and upper/lower case common names
• 2005.12.31 Wsiegmund/Archive01
• 2006.03.01 Wsiegmund/Archive02
• 2006.09.01 Wsiegmund/Archive03
• 2006.10.01 Wsiegmund/Archive04
• 2006.11.01 Wsiegmund/Archive05
• 2006.12.01 Wsiegmund/Archive06
• 2007.01.01 Wsiegmund/Archive07
• 2007.02.01 Wsiegmund/Archive08
• 2007.03.01 Wsiegmund/Archive09
• 2007.06.01 Wsiegmund/Archive10
• 2007.10.01 Wsiegmund/Archive11
• 2008.11.01 Wsiegmund/Archive12
• 2009.01.01 Wsiegmund/Archive13
• 2010.10.01 Wsiegmund/Archive14

Copyright status of photograph of road sign

Thanks for questioning the copyright status of File:Volcano evacuation route sign.jpg: it's good to be vigilant. The issue is subtle and is well beyond my knowledge of copyright law. I have asked for expert help at WP:Media_copyright_questions#Copyright_status_of_photograph_of_road_sign. I know you're an expert photographer: if you know enough about copyright law, please feel free to respond there.

Thanks again! —hike395 (talk) 15:49, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. I want to continue to address the items in the peer review as time permits. I commented at copyright questions. BTW, you need two ":Commons" to link to the Commons namespace on Wikimedia Commons. May I say that I admire your work? Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:14, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Arbutus menziesii

Hi, I don't understand why you deleted two external links from this page with the comment "Trimmed list; please see WP:EL for criteria". As far as I can see the two links (one broken, but it is easy to find the new address at http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/462264) don't violate any of the criteria. Please explain, thanks. Nadiatalent (talk) 12:29, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Nadiatalent; WP:EL says "dead links should either be updated or removed". Also, "External links in an article can be helpful to the reader, but they should be kept minimal, meritable (sic), and directly relevant to the article." Also, "Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum." Avoid "ny site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a featured article." Hikingsanfrancisco.com contains advertising, may be a WP:COI, is a WP:SPS and not a WP:RS, as far as I can tell. Geograph.org.uk is a WP:SPS and not a WP:RS. It links to two Misplaced Pages articles including Arbutus menziesii. If the subject of the photograph is "the largest (in both height and girth) in the whole of the British isles (sic)", that may be notable and worth a mention but I suppose that most European countries host a largest Arbutus menziesii. That said, I may have overlooked some meritable content in these pages. If you feel strongly that they should be retained, please feel free to restore them. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:18, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, the links in question aren't great. Can you further explain the "Avoid "ny site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a featured article.""? I haven't found a clear description in the WP documentation of what the "resources beyond what the article would contain if ..." is talking about, and hoped to some day be able to quote a clear definition, if one exists. Thanks again. Nadiatalent (talk) 13:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

In addition to citing Misplaced Pages:Featured article criteria, WP:EL says, "Some acceptable links include those that contain further research that is accurate and on-topic, information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail, or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to its accuracy." Jepson and eFlora may be a little too inaccessible for the average reader but are helpful for those who want a more technical and succinct description of a species and are appropriate. I think a site publishing a number of paintings of Arbutus menziesii with permission that are protected by copywrite and hence cannot be uploaded to Misplaced Pages, if it contained little or no advertising, could be retained. A link to a page with a detailed account of ethnobotanical uses may be added also. These are just my opinions but they seem to be fairly well accepted. WP:EL goes on to say that "No page should be linked from a Misplaced Pages article unless its inclusion is justifiable according to this guideline and common sense. The burden of providing this justification is on the person who wants to include an external link." Consequently, you might try yourself to justify the retention of an EL; if not satisfied, delete it. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 18:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. There doesn't seem to be a suitably short and clear criterion for quoting in edit summaries, and the decision to keep or delete is clearly very personal. I'd prefer to err on the side of keeping too many links, but then my primary aim at present is to correct information that is clearly wrong. I might challenge you occasionally about a deletion if I think that the linked page is easier to understand than the wikipedia page. Best wishes. Nadiatalent (talk) 21:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Occasionally, I may remove content that perhaps should be retained so please do tell me when you think I've made a mistake. Also, you may revert me in whole or in part. I am unlikely to object. Thank you for correcting information that is wrong. That is important work. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 23:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Picture at Glenn Highway

Please restore the picture of the Matanuska Glacier off the Glenn Highway. It's representative of sights along the highway. I've no objection to the one you replaced it with, but don't think it adds to or illustrates the article. I can't tell if it's the Matanuska or Chickaloon River, but am guessing the Chickaloon. A picture of the highway itself would be appropriate. Thanks. --Yopienso (talk) 04:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Yopienso; File:Matanuska River 8701s.JPG is taken from the highway. It shows the highway (with two vehicles) running alongside the Matanuska River, as the caption states. It is representative of sights along the highway. The location is just east of the confluence of the Chickaloon and Matanuska Rivers. Silt-laden water from the Chickaloon River may be seen entering the Matanuska River from the right. If you don't like the one that I suggested, you may prefer another from Commons:Glenn Highway. Besides the one I suggested, File:Gunsight_Mountain_Glenn_Highway_2.jpg and File:Glenn Highway and Mount Drum.jpg show the highway thereby satisfying the criteria that you listed. The one you prefer does not. I have no objection to the editors of the article replacing the image that I suggested. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 05:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I've responded at the article talk page. I see you've already edited the caption. :-) --Yopienso (talk) 06:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Yopienso; Embedding Commons media in Misplaced Pages articles may be helpful. Walter Siegmund (talk) 07:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

What? Learn a new skill?? Moi??? I finally learned how to take a digital picture: my husband said, "Just set it on 'simple' and keep it there." Thanks for the link; I may try to sometime--I did learn how to sign my name at WP! But you and Beeblebrox seem to be taking care of it. Thanks! --Yopienso (talk) 07:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for reminding me that editing Misplaced Pages isn't a low ability threshold skill. If you don't think my picture should be retained, you may remove it by deleting the line that contains its filename, i.e., "File:Matanuska River 8701s.JPG|This view from the Glenn Highway shows the highway alongside the Matanuska River at mile 76 (km 123)." Good luck with the photography. If you want to contribute pictures, you are welcome at Commons. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 00:58, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

WP:SEA Activity Check

Hello Fellow WikiProject Seattle members,

My name is Russell, and I saw that the Seattle WP was tagged as only semi active, so was BOLD and decided to jump in and see about revitalizing the project. Your recieving this message because you are listed as a participant in the project. If you are still interested in participating, please update the table with a status. If you do not respond by Jan 1, you will be considered inactive. If you want to opt out before then, simply remove your name from the table.

Questions, comments, concerns, let me know on either the project or my talk page.

Thank you, and have a great day.

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Seattle at 06:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC).

Responded at WikiProject Seattle. Thank you. Walter Siegmund (talk) 21:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

WP Seattle activity check - reminder

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Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Seattle at 12:37, 23 December 2010 (UTC).

Trouble seeing the diffs

Due to probably my poor eyesight, I have a trouble seeing minor diffs like the one you reverted here. Hum...time to get to the eye doctor.--MONGO 03:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I enlarge the font on my browser. Otherwise I wouldn't see it either. What would help is a better "differences" display, e.g., DiffMk. Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Hum...or if we could make it flash in various colors like blaze orange or something!--MONGO 04:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

This edit should raise an eyebrow. I failed to find even a see also link to the Moon landing conspiracy theories in any factual Apollo space program related article on this website...and the 9/11 Truthers almost make the Birthers look sane, yet nothing at Barack Obama or related article that link to the Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories...--MONGO 04:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)