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February 27, 2006

Template:AB, Template:BC and other similar templates

These templates for Canadian provinces and territories are contrary to conventions set out by Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Flag Template, and should be deleted for {{country|flag|CAN-AB}} and similar constructs. kelvSYC 19:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep. The flags are larger for a reason. Canadian provincial flags are more detailed, and should therefore be larger. Can we honestly tell the difference between the flag of Ontario and the flag of Manitoba at 20px? What's wrong with having size variations for different uses anyways? --curling rock Earl Andrew - talk 19:57, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I can make it out the difference just fine at 20px, and 20px is fine for most purposes. But by putting a 30px image, it is going against other conventions. To let it stay is to encourage redundancy, not to mention undermining the point of established conventions. kelvSYC 21:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
      • Not everyone has your perfect eye sight. The point is, the flags look ugly at 20px. Conventions aren't needed in this case, as Canadian provinces are not separate nations. The flags are always going to be used together and not with other countries, so there is no need to be consistent with other countries. The flags need to be bigger so they are more observable. --curling rock Earl Andrew - talk 22:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:User No Marxism

Speedy deleted, but overturned by a close vote on WP:DRV. Please do not speedy delete this now. My vote is below. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk 21:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy Withdraw. —Locke Cole • t • c 10:50, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Babel templates

Note: This TfD has been withdrawn, as it's really a request for a bot to change over these templates, and should not have been brought to TfD at all. -- JesseW, the juggling janitor 10:49, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

All of these are redundant with {{userboxtop}} and {{userboxbottom}}; {{Babel-N}} or {{Babel-X}}.

  • Delete. I believe a bot may be able to automatically go through and switch all of these to one of the other templates I suggested at the top of this nomination. —Locke Cole • t • c 08:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete (but only when they're no longer used) -- yes, now that someone's figured out how to make a "variable-size" template, having no less than 50 fixed-size ones lying around is a mess. Sounds bot-able, I'm no expert though -- Gurch 09:10, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Yeah, they won't be deleted until they've been orphaned (likely (or hopefully) by a bot going through every use and moving them to one of the newer templates mentioned at the top). But I can't stress this enough: when something is deleted at TFD, it isn't deleted right when the nomination closes; it's deleted when the template(s) are orphaned/removed from use. —Locke Cole • t • c 09:20, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
    • How can you even propose deleting things without posting instructions on how to use the new templates? The Misplaced Pages:Babel still gives instructions on doing things the "old" way. Fix this first. You have 1,000s of wikipedians with a big ugly marked for deletion tag scrawled accross their personal bio's. Not all are template literate. Be more considerate before you make changes that affect so many people. --Mig77 09:33, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all above 10, the few people who can meaningfully communicate in writing in more than 10 languages can use other templates to construct their babel boxes. Those under 10 are widely used and practically never change. They don't really need to be replaced. Zocky | picture popups 09:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
    • The problem with doing that is that when those who do use the 10 or less babel templates decide to add more and realize there aren't any above 10, they'll get recreated. At least that's what seemed to happen with the existing babel templates (two months ago the highest they went was like 21 or something, and look at how high they are now). Besides, if we can get a bot to do the heavy lifting (which I think is very possible), it wouldn't make sense not to do them all in one go. —Locke Cole • t • c 10:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as long as everyone's boxes remain the same (in appearance at least) and everyone (including new users) can still use the Babel system without significant added difficulty. Ardric47 10:14, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep: I thought meta-templates were still bad per WP:AUM. The Babel-X template has 100 of them so the alternative is still better. - Bobet 10:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
    • The proposed replacements are meta-templates? That wouldn't be good. Ardric47 10:33, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
    • WP:AUM is no longer policy. One of the developers (Brion VIBBER) has said he doesn't believe the server impact is as high as was claimed. Further, these templates are used in comparatively low-traffic parts of the site (specifically, user-space). Finally, the other alternatives don't use meta-templates, but they're a little more complicated to use; I opted to use the simplest solution when I rewrote Misplaced Pages:Babel. —Locke Cole • t • c 10:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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ony one user, see CFD. Omniplex 00:14, 27 February 2006 (UTC)