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Revision as of 09:47, 28 February 2006

After seeing this edit it's pretty clear that you're not aware of Misplaced Pages:NPOV, which is a fundamental rule here. Gamaliel 05:50, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Kennedy assassination theories

You are putting a lot of effort into making the article, which indeed does need work, unencyclopedic. Why put rhetorical questions in an article like "Cover up?" Also putting a header including "Response to the above" isn't good style, nor is the conversational tone of some of your additions "The little girl story is of little value.Did anyone ask the little girl what she was looking at? If she was asctually looking at one shooter does this preclude a second shooter?" And "More empty discussion. Where is the evidence?" does not take into account the fact there is a link to that evidence at the beginning of the section. I would suggest you slow down, as your work will simply be reverted; as on the whole is not improving the quality of the article. Put questions and requests for evidence on the articles talk page. - RoyBoy 06:36, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

The article probably needs to be junked completely and a whole new start. The point is that there is no reasoned discussion of the evidence; it is a collection of almost random facts that aren't tied together lead nowehere. I am pointing out two things: 1) there is a normal way to investigate the evidence systematically; and 2) There is a great hesitancy to do so by anyone and it would be better to just dump it all and start again or forget about it.Why keep a permanently bad article here.

RPJ 09:19, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

From a suspected user who has a tendency to revert things with cryptic comments

I put in the info the way I did as a form of protest over the inability of Wiki to have a coherent NPOV article on JFK, or his assassination, or any of the affilliated persons.

I've tried suggestions in the discussion boards (you can check some of the archived discussions) and no one is willing to budge. So it seems that now the articles are a collection of various "facts" from different points of view with no central cohesiveness.

I simply copied the POV language from the article and inserted my opposing POV language to illustrate the silliness of attempting to rebut every disputed information about the assassination.

I am from the school of thought that if a subject is controversial, you should keep it short, with just the barest and blandest facts that everyone agrees on until such time the controversy is fleshed out. However, users here at Wiki take the opposite where they put in every piece of inaccurate, unverified, disputed information and then mention that the information is disputed. This leads to incoherent and scattershot articles. For another example of too much information in article, check out the article on George W. Bush and then compare it to the one on Thomas Jefferson.

Good luck in your attempt to bring sanity to this insane subject.Ramsquire 23:40, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Your recent talk page comments

Article talk pages are to discuss the content of articles, not to mount personal attacks upon others. I have not blocked you or any other user I disagree with, nor have I improperly blocked (or blocked at all) any article regarding this disagreement. You are welcome to lodge a complaint at WP:AN, but don't waste time and talk page space spreading your nonsense to every related talk page. I am going to remove these comments. Gamaliel 22:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Gamaliel has recently toned down the attacks on everything disagreed with by calling it "nonsense." which will stop the posting that this is a self proclaimed belief by Gamaliel that those in opposition espouse "nonsense."

RPJ 20:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Your reverts to Lee Harvey Oswald

I don't know if you are deliberately vandalising the article or you are carelessly reverting and not looking at what version you are reverting to, but twice you have replaced a section of the biography with "Lee Harvey Oswald was touched by his father, who had thrice vagina monolouges. Thrice thou wast in pain when you yelled at your pet mice." Note that this is clearly vandalism and, whatever the reason for this change, please insure that it does not happen again. Thank you. Gamaliel 04:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

It may be a little gimmick that when there is some vandalism and then some other text one who wants to get rid of because of contents he or she doesn't agree with will include it in the revert of vandalism and merely state "vandalism" and hope the the other items won't be noticed. A committed few have several of these mildly effective tricks. They wil be slowly but surely learned. The methods of handling these will be acquired.

RPJ 20:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks

This evening you have engaged in personal attacks against both JimWae and myself . Not only is your constant rudeness tiresome, it is a violation of Misplaced Pages policy. Please read Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks and Misplaced Pages:Civility. If you continue to engage in such behavior, you will be subject to blocking due to your disruption of Misplaced Pages and violation of its policies. Please discuss your differences with other editors in a civil and rational matter. Gamaliel 05:42, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Your point is not well taken

Here is the information from the PBS news story that the self appointed censors (Gamaliel, JimWae, and Mytwocents) keep taking out of the Oswald article:

The internet doesn't need self appointed censors who find the unrelenting need to protect the CIA from exposure to bad news coverage. Move to China and get a job there. It is government policy in China to censor the internet--but not in the United States or the rest of the free world.

What are the rude words with which you find offense?

Please, Mr. anonymous censors don't keep censoring fully documented, and now, mainstream accepted facts that someone was impersonating Oswald shortly before Kennedy was murdered.

It is also now documented and established that the CIA especially has concealed this impersonator for over 42 years. If you were to read the PBS extended news coverage, or the transcripts of the Johnson/Hoover telephone discussions about the impersonators you would know this.

Thank you, in advance, for your kind attention. RPJ 22:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't pretend you don't have any idea what I'm talking about regarding personal attacks. You should need to be told that calling people "censors" and they've "started to melt down" is clearly offensive. The fact that you disagree with other editors regarding the contents of some articles does not give you license to engage in namecalling and rude behavior. Such comments of these are a violation of Misplaced Pages policies, as has been repeatedly pointed out to you.

The conspiracy theories you are trying to insert into the article are not "mainstream accepted facts". Please provide a link to one accepted mainstream reference work which presents the Newman theory as fact, as you wish Misplaced Pages to do. The Newman page is part of an extensive PBS website based upon a Frontline documentary, and both the website and the documentary present a strong case for the historical fact of Oswald's guilt.

All of this is irrelevant to your conduct. You can disagree with the above and still treat other people in a civil manner and refuse to engage in juvenile behavior like namecalling. Gamaliel 03:19, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

. Jayjg 00:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:John_F._Kennedy_assassination

OK bud, listen up. In addition to NPOV, here on Misplaced Pages we also have something called Don't be a dick and No personal attacks. You are also correct in asserting that no one or two readers "own" a page, and I for one would like to see more get involved. However, "no one" includes yourself. You cannot, nor should not belittle anyone just because they don't agree with your version of events. Your label of "censorship" does not stand when placed next to their own words: they are acting in good faith to make the article the best it can be, and it does not help by accusing them of some conspiracy.

I've just spent 2 hours both going over the article, looking at the sources, and looking at your attacks on other editors, and while you preach about being neutral and anti-censorship, your effors are misguided at best and trolling at worst. I do not know you or your motivations, but that is the range you are dealing with. I hope you can come to your senses, and instead of mindlessy accusing others of a grand conspiracy to cover up the truth, that you might practice some civility and help work to uncover the truth.

Yours in the quest for the ultimate truth, -Maverick 08:50, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

User:Gamaliel's userpage

Please do not edit other people's userpages, it is considered vandalism. - Akamad 09:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)