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welcome to my talk page, If you have something to ask or say to me about help or something else, PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL AND POLITE, don't trash talk me or start a fight with me on my talk page. thank you MajorHawke (talk) 10:07, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2010

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. I have noticed that some of your recent genre changes have conflicted with our neutral point of view and verifiability policies. While we invite all users to contribute constructively to Misplaced Pages, we urge all editors to provide reliable sources for edits made. When others disagree, we recommend you to seek consensus for certain edits. Thank you. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 04:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

RE:Question

Nope, actually I've never heard of that before. I just made a random username lol. Candyo32 00:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Candy-O (song)

The article Candy-O (song) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WPNSONGS, unfortunately (I happen to love this song). Not released as a single, no reviews by notable critics, no awards shown here (or that I know of), no mentions of being coverered by multiple notable acts. Article has zero references after a week. And even if the song were notable, the amount of material we've gathered so far is barely even a stub (4 sentences and a list of personnel and a brief infobox) so an entire article appears to be unearned.

While all contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Don't be discouraged!

Hi MajorHawke. Just wanted to let you know I've removed the proposed deletion tag from the Candy-O song article you created and added some sources, which will hopefully prevent its deletion. I appreciate the work you're doing building music content here; just don't forget to source everything so it won't get deleted. Allmusic is a really good source for rock music; I've added three Allmusic references to the article. I'll be happy to help you with source-finding if you need it. 28bytes (talk) 18:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help. 28bytes (talk) 23:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Double Life

Hi MajorHawke. Thanks for the note. Be sure to find sources before you start the Double Life article, though... it was a lucky break I was able to find sources for Candy-O but there might not be sources for Double Life. Or there might be... but you should definitely check first! I'd hate for someone to delete your hard work because sources couldn't be found. 28bytes (talk) 01:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Good luck! 28bytes (talk)

Good start! Looks like you were able to find some sources. That's the good news. The bad news is, since the song didn't chart, it might still get deleted for not being notable. If you're going to start more song articles, you may want to focus on songs that did chart, so you don't have to worry about deletions.

There are a couple of Cars songs on this list that don't have Misplaced Pages articles, so if you start an article about them and include sources like you did for Double Life, they should hold up to any deletion challenges. And if there are other bands you like, you can find a list of their charting songs on allmusic too. Good luck! 28bytes (talk) 03:41, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Misplaced Pages, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Limp Wrist, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Wyatt Riot (talk) 15:58, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Reference Help

Sure, I'll take a look at it sometime this week. By the way, please don't do things like this. I was really surprised to see you show up on the vandal list this week. 28bytes (talk) 04:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

If you're bored, you might consider taking up vandal-fighting. Misplaced Pages has some great vandal-fighting tools you can use. I use WP:Twinkle myself. You might enjoy whacking vandals in your free time. 28bytes (talk) 01:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

An Apology

I'm so sorry for being so immature. I feel like an idiot right now. I honestly don't know why I was rude to you. I guess at random times, I just feel like being rude to people. Everytime I go to that page, I think about how you must have been offended when I deleted your edit and wrote that harsh comment to you. You probably think that I am lower than the ground that we walk on. I can understand that because I was REALLLLY harsh on you. I should have just followed what you wrote on your page about trash talking and kept my mouth shut. My problem is that there was not a whole section on the unreleased tracks, but just that one track. It's your choice whether you want to forgive me or not. Next time, I will not delete a section if it just looks pointless, I will appreciate it for what it is, unless if it is so false or poorly made that it can't even be on here (your edit does not fall here). I understand that you are a huge fan of the Cars, so you probably know what you are doing. I even helped you on editing the page a few minutes ago by slapping on the heading "Unreleased Tracks" and editing the "Cool Fool" section. Before you made your edit, the page had just the track listing, personnel, and the information box. So once again, I'd like to say, I'm sorry. Hopefully, We can just put this behind us. Reply if you want to. I just listened to Cool Fool and it is an amazing song (as usual from The Cars). The Cars ROCK!!!! Wildboy7 (talk) 00:04, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank You!

Thank you so much for accepting my apology! I was waiting all day for a reply. I guess that "lower than the dirt we walk on" comment was being a little extreme, but hey, I really wanted you to forgive me. Now that you have forgiven me, I won't think of this small feud we had, but rather the friendship we currently have. My favorite Cars songs are Panorama, Drive, You Might Think, and Door To Door. It would be a great idea if you put more detail into your user page, like telling us what bands you like, what you like to do on your spare time, and other interesting things about you. You don't have to do it, but your user page would be so much better with it. Wildboy7 (talk) 16:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

November 2010

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. The recent edit you made to La Bamba (song) has been reverted, as it appears to introduce incorrect information. Please do not intentionally add incorrect information to articles; use the sandbox for testing. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Diannaa 00:30, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Twist and Shout. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Radiopathy •talk• 00:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Ease up

This is not the proper method of addressing other editors. Please be more careful in future. Thanks Tiderolls 00:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: your message on my page; any user on this site can point out problems to any other user. I do not speak for User:Radiopathy, but wanted to direct you to WP:NPA (which is a policy). I can understand frustration, but the use of such address harms your argument more than it harms the target of such address. Regards Tiderolls 00:45, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I will add that you know by now that you need reliable sources whenever you add new content to an article. I've heard it said that Get off of My Cloud is a speeded-up version of Twist and Shout, but I don't have a verifiable source to allow me to put that into the article. Don't take it personally that your contributions were reverted. Radiopathy •talk• 00:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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I'm Not the One

Hi MajorHawke. The good news is, you found a perfect review for the song on allmusic. The bad news is, you can't quote the whole thing, since that's against copyright. I've taken it out, but am working on putting some new text in that will discuss what the allmusic reviewer says without using too much of his text. I'll let you know when I'm done with my changes, it will probably take an hour or two. 28bytes (talk) 18:08, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, all done. 28bytes (talk) 18:49, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help. The previous revisions may need to be cleared from the article history because of the copying, so I'll ask the administrators about that. Have a happy Thanksgiving. 28bytes (talk) 21:06, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello

Alternative music was created in the late 70s and early 80s. New Wave is a form of alternative music. Sbrianhicks (talk) 22:18, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Just because it's from the 70s doesn't mean it's classic rock. Joy Division and the Cure were from the 70s and were post-punk and gothic rock, which are two forms of alternative music. I have even heard the Cars on an alternative radio station. Judging from your talk page, I'm guessing that you are one of those fans that want to label things about a band what ever you want with out having facts. The fact that you think alternative music did not exist until the mid 1990s, proves that you don't know much about the divide between classic rock and alternative. I'm not trying to be mean; I know this from experiance. I used to like heavy metal (classic) such as Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Aerosmith, Ozzy Osbourne and hated alternative and thought that I knew everything about it. Then I started listening to it and realized that it's actually pretty good and learned about it. So, it's a common mistake. My source: http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/merchandise/0,,24884,00.html/. I am currently not sure weather this meets reliability requirments, but I'll work on it. (It says "other alternative albums," meaning that the Cars are alternative.) Sbrianhicks (talk) 13:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I actually don't know how to cite the same source more than once. Sbrianhicks (talk) 21:12, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

It's All I Can Do

It was Piriczki (talk · contribs) who removed the demo version, not me. All I did to the article was add a hatnote for the Anne Murray song of the same name. Eric444 (talk) 00:41, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. Eric444 (talk) 10:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Genres

Hi MajorHawke, how's it going? Hey, can you do me a favor and not change the genres on the Cars articles? I noticed you've done a lot of that recently, and it's usually best to just leave the genres alone unless there's something in there that's obviously vandalism. There are even warning templates like this one that people might start sending you (although I wouldn't do that myself since I know you're only trying to be helpful.) Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 21:17, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

"Rock songs" Category

Hi MajorHawke. Just an FYI that you don't need to add Category:Rock songs to the Cars song articles. They're already categorized as "Rock songs" because Category:The Cars songs is a sub-category of Category:American rock songs, which is a sub-category of Category:Rock songs. In fact, Category:Rock songs says not to put that category on individual songs, but to instead use more specific categories (like, in this case, Category:The Cars songs.) Hope this helps! 28bytes (talk) 11:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Maybe I wasn't clear before: Category:Rock songs does not go on individual song articles. Pick any random rock song, go to its article, and you'll see that. 28bytes (talk) 19:14, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Substitution Mass Confusion

I don't know if you like cover bands, but I thought you might find this album interesting: Substitution Mass Confusion. 28bytes (talk) 07:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

iPhone

No worries, I didn't think it was intentional. 28bytes (talk) 21:37, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

My Best Friend's Girl

Hi MajorHawke, I appreciate all the contributions you have made to My Best Friend's Girl (and other Cars articles for that matter). Based on your last edit to the article, I wanted to let you know that I don't believe your information was false, just unsourced. The part in particular that concerned me was: "the best way to sum it up is art rock, for the fact art rock is creative and experimental like The Cars." I can see where an art rock description makes sense, but since its a song that doesn't seem to have a universally accepted clear-cut genre, we can't claim it's "the best way to sum it up" just because it sounds right to our ears. In other words, narrowing it down to one "best" genre is a tough sell without something or someone authoritative saying so. For most artists, their songs can be pretty easily labeled, but as you know, the Cars (as a band in general and "My Best Friend's Girl individually) blend multiple styles and subgenres. That makes it tough to pigeonhole the song into only one of these descriptions: "power pop", "new wave", "art rock"...I kinda like how it is in the infobox, with all of them listed (I noticed you were the editor who added art rock to the infobox, good catch). Anyway, I hope this helps further clarifies where I was coming from. Thanks.  Gongshow  20:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

No trouble at all - thanks for writing back. Looking forward to their new album and its great timing to see a lot of effort going into their articles from the past and present. See ya 'round!  Gongshow  22:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Sad Song

Hi MajorHawke. I saw you turned the Sad Song redirect into an article but you forgot to include sources, so I've changed it back to a redirect for the time being. Feel free to turn it back into an article once you find some sources for it. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 00:15, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks MajorHawke. I've formatted the references for you. I had to remove the bit about the lyrics, but if you can find a reliable source that talks about the lyrics, we can put that back in. Take care. 28bytes (talk) 22:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Genres

The answer to your question is that music genre for The Cars is... whatever the reliable sources say it is. The important thing about Misplaced Pages is that it's not a place for us to say what we think, it's a place for reporting what the reliable sources have to say about it. Personally, I think there are probably a lot of different genres that various Cars songs fall under. Some are pretty solidly rock, some are pretty solidly pop, etc., but I don't really give it that much thought, I just enjoy the music however it's labeled.

One important thing to note is that when people change genres without citing a source for the change, it really annoys people. You don't want to become a genre warrior! 28bytes (talk) 17:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Your edit summary re The Beatles article

I refer to your summary here. I regret that it is possible that the wording might appear to some people as a threat - that you will add in further genres (and possibly recruit others from "allmusic"?) were someone to revert or otherwise vary your edit. I am sure that this was not your intent, since that would potentially result in your being blocked - after being appropriately warned, of course - and the same any other editor who might unfortunately be regarded as your meatpuppet. As you are of course aware, the appropriate manner to discuss the inclusion of other genres in the article is via the talkpage. I am certain that will be the avenue you will take, if you wish to explore this aspect of the article further. Cheers, LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC)