Using DYK "to promote one side of an ongoing dispute" violates DYK policy. Here's still another article that would lead one to believe that Muslims in general, and Israel's opponents in particular, are despicable people who even devote their vacations to indulge their preoccupation with homicide. What percentage of Muslims worldwide participate in this so-called "tourism"? One in 10,000? In 100,000? Based on recent DYK appearances, one could be forgiven for gathering the impression that Misplaced Pages is extremely anti-Arab and extremely anti-Muslim. We've had more than enough appropriation of DYK for Misplaced Pages's Israel-Palestine battleground already, thank you very much.  – OhioStandard (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I disagree that this article is being used to "promote one side of an ongoing dispute" or characterizes "Israel's opponents" as "despicable people". Are there any specific instances of bias in this article that you could point out? Is it mis-representing the sources in some way? Are there other sources you could recommend that would add balance to the article? Qrsdogg (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

This is interesting subject, something I never knew about. It is well sourced. It is sufficiently neutral and tells also about US and British citizens. Ohiostandard, what "sides" are you talking about? Muslims? Are they really a "side" in any ongoing conflict? And what is another "side"? Christians? Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 00:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

While the topic is controversial, Anna Frodesiak has done a good job on the article and the hook. I do not see in the article or the hook any implication that all Muslims are terrorists or that many Muslims take part in such tourism. My own objection to controversial topics is really that it is hard to create an NPOV article that is stable. But I think the concern raised by OhioStandard should be dealt with thoughtfully; it seems wrong to slap an OK on top of a NO, especially when it is done with an insulting edit summary. Are there sources giving some indication of the numbers of people involved in Jihadi tourism? Most likely the actual numbers are quite small. betsythedevine (talk) 03:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

• Qrsdogg asked me to comment on this nom. Regarding Ohio's objections, I don't believe we can oppose articles merely based on the fact that they might portray some group or another in a negative light by virtue of the subject matter. That would be akin to censorship. I do have some concerns about this article however, mainly that the article seems to be a WP:SYNTH collection of events based on a WP:NEOLOGISM that doesn't even appear to have an established meaning at this point. Probably the best way to deal with those issues would be to open an AFD. Gatoclass (talk) 07:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Article is now at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

• Back to the original comment by Ohiostandrd. What Israel? This article tells nothing about Israel. What POV? There is no any discussion at article talk page. Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 11:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any significant POV problems in here as Ohio suggests, but I agree with Gato that the article feels a bit unfinished and unstable. Jihadi tourism seems to have a variety of different definitions in these sources, and the article could use some work to resolve what its primary subject is. It's an interesting topic, though, and I'll be interested to see what it can become. --Khazar (talk) 16:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Note: Article has survived AFD. Qrsdogg (talk) 00:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 2

Jean Perrot

• ... that Jean Perrot, co-founder of the journal Paléorient, excavated at Susa, Munhata, and Beersheba?

• Reviewed: Wedding dress of Grace Kelly

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

• - Article at 1,969 characters. However, online reference is linked to a "book cover". Unverifiable. Unless reference is an offline source? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• The Paleorient Journal website mentions Perrot founding it but I've strenghtened the sourcing with a direct mention here Société préhistorique française, p.3 (1982). Bulletin de la Société préhistorique française. Société préhistorique française. Retrieved 4 May 2011.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) that says about co-founder Bernard Vandermeersch "En 1974, il collabore avec J. Perrot à la création de l'« Association Paléo-rient » dont le but était de lancer la revue Paléorient ... En 1977, Paléorient est devenue une revue du CNRS" on page 3. I'm taking it that was the verification problem, not the famous excavations. Thanks! Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 04:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 3

Tying of the iPhone to AT&T

• ... that when Apple initially released its iPhone in the U.S. on June 29, 2007, it was sold exclusively with AT&T, leading to Tying of the iPhone to AT&T which forced users to purchase AT&T service plans?

Created by Dsayles08. Nominated by Jaobar (talk) 03:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• This article was created (as explained on its talk page) for a school project. I'm currently working on merging it into existing articles and it may be deleted in a week or so. The article, and the blurb, seem somewhat POVish as far as being against restrictive policies. If you do use it, I've made some wording changes, primarily to correct U.S.-centricism. HereToHelp 04:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• As noted on the talk page for this article, the iPhone page has been tagged as being too lengthy already. That, coupled with the fact that this article addresses a major telecommunication policy issue that has wide-reaching implications suggests that it should stand alone. Jaobar (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Charmaine Borg, Matthew Dubé, Mylène Freeman, Laurin Liu, Jamie Nicholls, Pierre-Luc Dusseault

• ... that five McGill University students—Charmaine Borg, Matthew Dubé, Mylène Freeman, Laurin Liu, and Jamie Nicholls—were elected to Parliament (Commons chamber pictured) in Canada's 2011 federal election but the youngest new MP is Université de Sherbrooke student Pierre-Luc Dusseault?

• Reviewed: Gunner (dog) (), Table tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics (), James William Middleton (), Robert H. Paul (), Elizabethtown (Amtrak station) ()

Created by THAT IS A CAT IT IS (talk), Bearcat (talk), OCNative (talk), Lingust (talk), 216.191.221.69 (talk), Bouchecl (talk), and Hemerk (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:20, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Pierre-Luc Dusseault is a bit short of 1500 bytes. Materialscientist (talk) 01:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Pierre-Luc Dusseault article has been expanded. OCNative (talk) 05:45, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Phonocentrism

• ... that Jacques Derrida believed that phonocentrism is a form of logocentrism?

5x expanded by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 23:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Gaza marathon Qrsdogg (talk) 23:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• ... that, perhaps paradoxically, Plato defended his phonocentrism using the written word? -Freekee (talk) 04:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sure, that might work too. Qrsdogg (talk) 05:51, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 5

Rod Thornton

• ... that a paper by the academic Rod Thornton was censored for criticising the arrest of a student who borrowed a copy of an Al-Qaeda training manual from his University library?

Created by Francium12 (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• Just reviewed St Andrew's School, Pangbourne. Not sure how to show the 'diff' - but I did!  Francium12  16:15, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

length and date OK, references check out, but the hook fact is not is not in the article. i.e. "al-Queada training manual" is not mentioned. SpinningSpark 08:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• • Doh! Just added and provided a ref. On further reading he downloaded it for his dissertation but it was in the library! Change to ... that a paper by the academic Rod Thornton was censored for criticising the arrest of a student who downloaded an Al-Quaeda training manual available from his University library?  Francium12  09:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• The Guardian ref says "Thornton writes that the al-Qaida manual which led to the arrests is now stocked in the university's library" which at least implies that it was not in the library at the time of arrest, and in any event does not entirely verify the hook. I will take it on good faith if you say the offline Thornton ref is more definite on this point, but if the Guardian is accurately reporting Thornton then the hook is wrong. You also need to decide if your spelling is going to be al-Qaeda or al-Qaida SpinningSpark 10:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Sanmenxia Dam

• ... that China has arrested people for criticizing the controversial Sanmenxia Dam (pictured) on the Yellow River?

• ALT1... that 1.8 billion metric tons of sediment was accumulated behind China's Sanmenxia Dam (pictured) in the 18 months after it closed the Yellow River in 1958?
• Reviewed: HMS Sainfoin (F183)

Created/self-nom --NortyNort (Holla) 13:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: Nothing remarkable about the PRC arresting people for such criticism; focus more on the technical aspects. Include information about location in western Henan. Also, don't simply use "China" in a political context when you actually are referring to the PRC. –HXL's Roundtable and Record 14:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• I agree it isn't remarkable. I usually focus on design but thought the controversy was more interesting in this case. I haven't seen an arrest like this related to a dam. Usually it is violent protesters. The amount of trapped sediment could be an interesting alternate. I also try to keep hooks short and feel PRC (now piped) is implied along with trying to not have too many location identifiers. Other thoughts are welcome, thanks for yours. I will work on an ALT.--NortyNort (Holla) 14:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Snarum Station, Jørgen Rytterager

• ... that farmer Jørgen Rytterager was appointed station master of Snarum Station in 1872?

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Operation Mallard (ec)

Date and length are fine, offline foreign language hook accepted in good faith. But with only one source for an average-seeming Norweigan station master, does this meet the WP:GNG? -- Khazar (talk) 02:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

The article is well written, but I agree that the notability might be a bit thin here. Does he stick out from thousands(?) of other station masters? Also, is the hook eye-catching in any way? Geschichte (talk) 09:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I do see your points. But Rytterager was not only a station master, he was also a public servant and one of the wealthiest farmers in Buskerud (if not whole Norway) at the time. Also, the source cited in the article is not the only source on this individual, it's just the only source that I've had in my disposition. That journal article also cited many other sources on Rytterager, but I didn't want cite them in the article, as I hadn't seen them myself. I would say, that the fact that the reliable and serious periodical Arkivmagasinet (issued by the National Archival Services of Norway) devoted three pages to an article solely on this station master does make him worthy of an article. Redirecting the article on Rytterager to Snarum Station could be a good compromise, though. As for the hook fact, it was the best that I was able to find. IMHO, It does seem a bit peculiar that a farmer at the decline of his career managed to become a station master at a new railway line. That happening was also the title of the journal article, so I think somebody else would agree. :) --Eisfbnore  14:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Eisfborne, it's a well-written article, so I do hope it gets to stay without a redirect. The Arkivmagasinet source you name seems like an excellent start, but my understanding of the notability guidelines is that a second source wholly or partially dedicated to Rytterager will need to go into the article to demonstrate notability. I'm less up on the GNG than many others here, though, so what I'll do is leave my question mark up and let this catch the attention of a more experienced editor than I to make the final call. -- Khazar (talk) 15:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I see the peculiarity a bit better now. But when you say "he was also a public servant", what kind of servant? Geschichte (talk) 20:23, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base

• ... that in just over two years in World War II, Régiment de Chasse 01/030 Normandie - Niémen destroyed 273 enemy aircraft and received the awards from both the French Légion d’Honneur and the Soviet Order of the Red Banner?

Created by DeltaQuad (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Bolded the topic for this one and wikilinked. Also supplied the "?" for the hook. However, there are two redlinks at intro of article. Either remove the redlinks or provide the pages for those two please. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Incorrect. There is no rule against redlinks in the nominated article. Manxruler (talk) 07:20, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry the bold was just from the article itself not on purpose...and there is not a redlink in the nom, why is the article required not to have them? (If it is a rule) -- DQ (t) (e) 11:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Bolding of the nominated article is required. What is not correct is AnakngAraw's claim that redlinks in the article itself are undesirable. Redlinks don't belong in the hook, but in the article they're all good. Manxruler (talk) 15:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Then are we good to go? -- DQ (t) (e) 17:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Not really. I don't understand the hook (which I have just copy-edited for typos). How can an air base destroy 273 aircraft? Airbases don't usually destroy aircraft. And this airbase wasn't even in existence in 1943-45. Who actually shot down the 273 aircraft, and what does it have to do with the base? Manxruler (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Just reread my source (since I did this six months ago), it was the unit that helped with the closing of the base. ajusted entry. -- DQ (t) (e) 19:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Yes. I saw that you had been working on this article for quite some time in your user space, which is of course perfectly well. The problem here is that the hook you are promoting, is not at all about this air base, but about the Normandie-Niemen squadron, which already has its own article. There's no way this hook can be used. Manxruler (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Ok, sounds ok, thanks for the help though. -- DQ (t) (e) 23:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. There's still some time, if you'd like to come up with a different hook. Manxruler (talk) 00:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 6

Depot Town

• ... that escaped slaves using the Underground Railroad hid in tunnels beneath the train track in Ypsilanti, Michigan's Depot Town?

• ALT1:... that it's been 27 years since a train stopped in Ypsilanti, Michigan's Depot Town?
• ALT2:... that the Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum (pictured), in Ypsilanti, Michigan's Depot Town, is housed in the last surviving Hudson Motor Car Company dealership?
• Reviewed: Pitkin County Courthouse
• Comment: Currently at about 4x expansion; should be at 5x within another day or so. ALT2 has the possiblity of being a double hook with Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum. There are a ton of other potentially interesting hooks here, so feel free to suggest something else.

5x expanded by Cmadler (talk). Self nom at 19:51, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Still not 5x although an expansion began on May 10. I prefer the first hook, and it is verified. Alt1 verified but less interesting. I do not see the Alt2 hook in the end of paragraph ref. I.E., where does it say this was the last Hudson dealership. I would suggest adding a map. See Hyde Park, Chicago. I sourced a map from OpenStreetMap and then went into Microsoft Paint and added lines to create a border. I think saving their maps as .jpgs results in higher resolution than .pngs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• It's now at 5x, counting expansion from May 6. It may be a while before I get to doing a map, so it's probably not a good idea to delay DYK for it. cmadler (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Added the citation supporting ALT2. cmadler (talk) 19:28, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• 5x expansion verified. There are just 3 paragraphs of information which are missing citations: end of first paragraph under "Businesses"; end of first paragraph and all of second paragraph under "Events". Then it's ready to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Citations added for those paragraphs, plus another citation supporting ALT2. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 13:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum is currently at 4.4x expansion, but at this point I think writing any more would probably just be padding the article. So, I'll ask for an WP:IAR to make ALT2 a double hook. cmadler (talk) 14:59, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Elephant hunting in Kenya

• ... that in 1989, in a dramatic gesture to persuade the world to halt the ivory trade, Kenyan president Daniel arap Moi publicly burned twelve tons of elephant tusks?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Added an img.--Nvvchar. 16:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Pedreña.--Nvvchar. 17:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• I do not think the sourcing—a single, vague aside in a biography of someone else—is sufficient for what is essentially an insinuation of criminality against a living person, and I certainly wouldn't want to highlight such a claim on the main page anyway. Can you find a different hook? As for the article itself, I think that sentence needs some reworking; as it stands, it has a "weasel words" problem. It's important to know who did the implicating and what the circumstances were, for example, rather than simply report on the accusation. Dominic·t 19:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

There are multiple reliable sources which mention this which is good enough for me. Hell New Scientist magazine in a 1975 issue referred to her as an "ivory queen", even if they had to be politically correct and not discuss it as 100% certain she was,. Its not a vague accusation in one biography its common knowledge and there is enough coverage of it in respectable sources to at least be able to report it. Its a perfect example of African government corruption and many books mention this woman as one of the most notorious ivory traders in the country. What "weasel" words are you on about?♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

There were not multiple references when I reviewed it, as you know. You just added those. So, I'm really not sure why you are acting as if it was otherwise.

There is still an issue with the references. You've cited a journal, Animal Kingdom and a year, but given no identifying information, like the article's name name and author, and a page number. Similarly, you've cited an entire book, Touched by Africa, and gave no page numbers. You clearly believe this is corruption, but you don't really have citations that demonstrate that. The same New Scientist article (again, needs a full citation) you reference only called the allegation "gossip."

There might be a way to include this material, but you really be more careful about how you characterize it. The weasel words are especially the passive-voice phrase "were reportedly implicated," which imply wrongdoing while leaving unanswered the questions of who did the implicating and how serious the implications were. That kind of wording is not the best writing. Dominic·t 20:02, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but I disagree with your political correctness/snobbery. Can you ever be 100% sure about anything? No. Can we be certain the tens of thousands of serious claims made on[REDACTED] which are printed by other sources are 100% true or exactly how something happened or was? No. Is it our duty to conduct a detailed investigation into whether assessing something is true or not? No. Is it wikipedia's job to "answer questions" and assess the exact nature of what is reported. Absolutely not. Misplaced Pages's duty is to report existing information which is mentioned about a subject in multiple reliable publications. The fact that Mama is mentioned as being an ivory trader in multiple reliable sources which can be viewed in google books is sufficient enough for me to at least mention that she "allegedly" was an ivory trader. I think if you actually did research within Kenya you'd find it to be true. As the New Scientist says the royal family 100% certain were involved in it. Would Mama still support ivory trading now? Probably not. But her name is mentioned many times as being involved with ivory trading. It is wikipedia's duty in a discussion about elephant poaching in Kenya to identify the historical practices and the biggest culprits of it. It is written in a way which reports that she and the kenyan royal family were connected to poaching in the 1970s without stating it is a 100% fact, which is satisfactory. A google book search will indeed verify that there is strong enough source coverage to present this as a DYK. Obviously you'll come up with some smart alec comment in response, but I'm not buying it. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Being reluctant to describe someone as involved with organized crime is not political correctness. It is legal correctness. This is going to have to be phrased very carefully, or it's simply not acceptable to have on the ffront page. Understand? DS (talk) 18:44, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

No. We are not calling someone a criminal on the front page. That's explicitly against the DYK rules, no matter the quality of sourcing- negative hooks on a BLP are never acceptable here. Courcelles 18:47, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh deary me, what a fuss. I've changed the hook, no problems. Personally think your claims Courcelles basically come down to paranoia of a political uproar by the Kenyan authorities against[REDACTED] and down to censorhsip;[REDACTED] is not censored. Negative or positive hooks about people should be permitted if backed up by reliable sources. But I agree that unless somebody has been brought to justice legally for a crime then its not a good idea for a DYK, changing a hook is no problem but I will not remove mentioning it in the article given the multiple sources. Nobody has called anybody a criminal but we are here to report what has been reported.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:52, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the alternative hook. I have no problem with promoting it when the referencing problems I noted are fixed. I made a slight change to the wording; you had also forgotten to link the article itself! ;-)

I think that the wording of the section on Kenyatta still needs to be reworked eventually, but DYK does not demand immediate perfection. If you'd rather work on that with Khazar than a snob like me, it sounds like he is willing to help. I know this isn't peer review, but before promoting, the references really do need to be cleaned up, at least. I mentioned some issues with incomplete citation above, and I notice others as well. You also have a footnote with "Douglas-Hamilton, p. 77," but no title or other identifying information for whatever work is being cited. The current footnote #19 also has a broken link and lacks a journal title or authors; #10, #18, and #21 have no author information. And I don't want to nitpick, but it could also do with another copyedit when you get a chance. For example, in the sentence about the prices ("In the 1950s and 1960s, the Kenyan poacher received approximately Shs. 3-4/lb ($.79–1.05/kg)..."), it doesn't say what is being referred to—the price of a tusk (or pair?) or of a whole elephant? Thanks. Dominic·t 10:38, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree that this hook accusing someone of a crime of which they have not been convicted isn't appropriate for DYK (I'm actually not even convinced it's appropriate for the article), nor do I think Dominic deserved to be accused of political correctness/snobbery to say so, unless he has some long history as a Kenyatta apologist I'm unaware of. But that said, aside from those two problematic sentences, this article has loads of terrific information and writing. What would you say to an ALT1: ...between 1970 and 1977, Kenya lost more than half of its elephants to hunting? As for the BLP issue, I agree with Dominic's suggestion that I'd be more comfortable if the sentence about the allegations named a specific source, such as "The New York Zoological Society accused Ngina Kenyatta of..." This phrasing would be more factual and indisputable (assuming this allegation is clearly stated in the original source, rather than repeated as rumor or gossip as in the New Scientist article). -- Khazar (talk) 22:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• The suggestion of ALT1 hook should be fine to address the concerns expressed by the reviewers. Thanks, Kazar.--Nvvchar. 02:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you three for the lovely article. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 05:55, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Ghana National Fire Service

• ... that in March 2010 it was announced that the Ghana National Fire Service was to change its name to Ghana National Fire and Rescue Service?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed

• Good to go. --Doug Coldwell 21:01, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Open top buses in Weston-super-Mare

• ... that some criminals were seen on television riding around Weston-super-Mare on an open-top bus?

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 16:15, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• • Reviewed Brabham BT3

• Date, length, hook OK. Offline ref AGF.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Wait, wait, hold it. Were those actual criminals, or were they actors playing the part of criminals? DS (talk) 18:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Until we get that issue settled, this is unacceptable. DS (talk) 22:12, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Reading the article, they were clearly the latter. OCNative (talk) 13:22, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I don't see a problem. The idea of a hook is to entice the reader to read the article. That done, it's clear what the hook really means. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

If you want a deceptive hook, wait for April 1. I strongly oppose this wording. DS (talk) 17:34, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Women in Northern Cyprus

Four female folk dancers in Northern Cyprus adorned with gold accessories and pink-colored costumes

• ... that among female Northern Cypriots (pictured) in 2010, only seven had ever held high-level positions in the Parliament of Northern Cyprus?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed the article: Lumír Ondřej Hanuš - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: that since 2010, there had only been seven women in Northern Cyprus (pictured) who became high-level members of the Parliament of Northern Cyprus? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Somebody marked the source for the hook as unreliable besides I could not find a confirmation in the source that supports the hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:12, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Suggesting ALT 2: ... that Gönül Başaran Erönen is the first female justice of the Supreme Court in Cyprus? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Alt 2 is verified, but I am still do not feel comfortable to promote the article with unreliable source for another information. Maybe somebody more experienced than I am could take a look.Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Women in Laos

• ... that in Lao Buddhism, the women of Laos (pictured) are taught that they can only attain nirvana after they have been reborn as men?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Length, hook, and source all check out. All that needs to be done now is a review of another article. --Starstriker7 03:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) A have a few issues with this article. looks like a blog and there are two sections (Marriage/Sexuality) that have only one sentence. --Guerillero | My Talk 03:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed the article: Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Yeah, you have a point. I didn't catch it as a blog earlier. However, the two sections that have only one sentence don't seem to conflict with DYK requirements; the overall article size still checks out, as do the newness and hook items. --Starstriker7 03:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• I was able to address the ref issue for the hook by replacing it with this book. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Replaced the blog ref with the Lonely Planet book from which it was based on or copied from. Found it from googlebooks. Ref is now valid source for whole article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:49, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Alrighty then. With that issue resolved, this looks good to go for real. --Starstriker7 05:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• - The picture does not picture "women of Laos," it pictures one woman. I have no problem with this moving forward without the image, however, I express reservations of promoting it with an incorrectly labeled picture. BelloWello (talk) 21:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Replaced the image with two "women from Laos" from Commons. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Rollover captions changed as well. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for prompt attention. Probably unnecessary since the chance of it being featured as the image is slim, but something that caught my attention anyway. BelloWello (talk) 22:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

<- I'm not convinced it's a good hook. Obviously there's a difference between the cultural belief system/traditions of Theravada Buddhism and being actively taught something by someone. I'm curious where these women of Laos are being actively taught that that they can only attain nirvana after they have been reborn as men. It seems to me a bit like saying that women of the U.S. are taught that they can only get to heaven if they go to church etc. I'm not sure that Lonely Planet is an appropriate source for sweeping statements like this. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I have to agree with Sean that this is a fairly sweeping claim to rely on LP for. (Honestly, I barely trust LP to get me to local bars). Would it be possible to source this to a more academic work? This reservation aside, thanks for creating all these women of articles, AnakngAraw. It's a good area to look at and I look forward to seeing how they develop. -- Khazar (talk) 16:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 7

Krotite

• ... that the newly discovered mineral krotite was one of the earliest minerals formed in the solar system?

Created by Tmangray (talk). Nominated by Bender235 (talk) at 07:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• This is a fascinating hook, but the prose portion of the article is under 1500 characters. Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Peter Mweshihange

• that before becoming Namibia's first ambassador to China, Peter Mweshihange worked as traditional healer, truck driver, miner, chef, guerrilla commander, and Minister of Defense?

• Reviewed: Ghana Police Service ()

5x expanded by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 07:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Bart Chilton

• ... that CFTC commissioner Bart Chilton, who has shoulder-length hair and likes to wear cowboy boots, was called "the modern-day equivalent of Eliot Ness"?

• Reviewed: Randy Roth

Created by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. But I think you're mixing up two facts in the hook that have nothing to do with each other. Chilton sounds like a polished professional in his field, and this hook makes him look silly. How about:
• ALT1: ... that CFTC commissioner Bart Chilton has been called "the modern-day equivalent of Eliot Ness" for his efforts to expose fraud in the silver futures market? Yoninah (talk) 22:12, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Cowboy boots (and hats) are pretty normal in certain parts of the U.S., not silly at all. However, one expects a CFTC commissioner in Washington, D.C. to look more like the chairman Gary Gensler and not sport long hair and cowboy boots. I was figuring on catching people's attention with the contrast of CFTC >> boots & hair >> Eliot Ness. I worry that people are numb from all the fraud these days, and their eyes just glaze over, especially when you follow that with "futures markets". I think "futures market" has to be left out, though. Or maybe write it as ] After struggling with about five versions of this, I've come up with this. I think the word "fraud" is okay if you precede it with the word "prosecute". How about this?
• ALT2:... that commissioner Bart Chilton (pictured), who sports long hair and cowboy boots, has been called "the modern-day equivalent of Eliot Ness" for wanting the CFTC to prosecute fraud? Marrante (talk) 23:31, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• OK. But maybe it would be more hooky to stress the dress part. How about:
• ALT3: ... that CFTC commissioner Bart Chilton (pictured) goes to his office in Washington, D.C. wearing shoulder-length blond hair and cowboy boots?
• And how about adding the free-license picture of him? Yoninah (talk) 11:59, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• I think I like ALT2 better. That business of "prosecuting fraud" is appealing in these days where it is mostly just exposed (if that) – the recent conviction of Raj Rajaratnam notwithstanding. Here's the photo, though. I didn't put it in before because I thought it wasn't interesting enough, but it surely does relate to the hook, if the hair is mentioned. I think I'll leave the decision of the hook up to you, but if you don't take ALT2, I suggest this adjustment of your ALT3. I think with the photo in there, we can risk using the full name of the agency.
• ALT4: ... that Commodity Futures Trading Commissioner Bart Chilton (pictured) goes to his office in Washington, D.C. wearing shoulder-length blond hair and cowboy boots? Marrante (talk) 17:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Edyth Walker

• ... that opera singer Edyth Walker portrayed the title heroine in the UK premiere of Richard Strauss' Elektra at Covent Garden in 1910?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 09:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sounds great, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Anna Letenská

• ... that the Czech actress Anna Letenská was murdered by Nazis for her alleged participation in the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich?

• Reviewed: Fine Manners ()

Created by Vejvančický talk, Opbeith (talk. Self nom at 08:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, sourcing, and time frame all appear check out although some sources are offline. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:12, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Osama bin Laden's house in Khartoum

• ... that while in Sudan, the late Osama bin Laden lived in a pink stucco and brick house in Khartoum and a one-storey mud house overlooking the Blue Nile in Soba, where he spent many weekends with his family?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Background of the Spanish Civil War

• Length, date, hook ok. But there is a citation needed tag in the article, could that be resolved first? Also (albeit by no means a condition for DYK inclusion), is there any chance of having the article geotagged? --Soman (talk) 03:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Moreover, the hook fact about the Soba house needs a reference directly after the sentence. --Soman (talk) 03:07, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• The reference to fact was already fixed but by oversight the tag text symbol was not removed. This has been done now. Two more references have been fixed, one with page number refers to Blue Nile. It is also geotagged separately though the coordinates were included in the Infobox.--Nvvchar. 06:09, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, good to go now. Also, sorry for missing the coords in the infobox. --Soman (talk) 21:06, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Pedreña

• ... that the famous golfer Seve Ballesteros, who recently died, hailed from Pedreña, located across the bay from Santander in Cantabria?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Paul Erik (talk). Self nom at 11:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• the hook, date, length, references all check out.--Nvvchar. 17:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Robin Yearwood

Randy Roth

• ... that Randy Roth faked a boating accident in order to cover up the murder of his fourth wife?

Created by Beeblebrox (talk). Self nom at 07:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Haven't reviewed another nom yet but this is only my third DYK nom. Beeblebrox (talk) 07:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Ok, fine, reviewed Anna Letenská . Beeblebrox (talk) 18:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

You have quite a few paragraphs there with no citations. DYK rules are minimum one per paragraph. The article needs to be wikified and could use a good copy edit, as well. I've made a few copy edits, but more is needed. Marrante (talk) 21:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

What happened there is that another user broke it up into smaller paragraphs after the nomination was posted, all the material in those apparently unsourced passages is attributable to the Ann Rule's A Rose for Her Grave. Admitedlly the article reads better with the smaller paragraphs though. I can add the citations back easily enough. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I've corrected that issue and also added several more refs to the article. Luckily the Seattle Times has articles from all the way back in 1992 online. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:52, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Comment: Citation issue corrected. But now I have issues with the way the hook reads. The case was convicted on circumstantial evidence, rather significant, though it may be, it was not based on actual evidence, so I think you can't just say "Randy Roth faked..." I propose this instead:

• ALT1:... that Randy Roth was convicted of faking a boating accident in order to cover up the murder of his fourth wife?

I guess I figured since he was convicted we could state as an established fact that he did it, but that works for me. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

No, you can't and this is why: Miscarriage of justice. The first hook is not factual, it is conjectural. A DYK hook should be factual, not conjecture stated as fact. Roth was convicted because of highly incriminating circumstantial evidence. It is extremely likely that he did commit the crime, but since he didn't confess and there were no eye witnesses, nor was there direct evidence, the only true statement that can be made is that he was convicted of this crime. It is not possible to "establish fact" from conjecture; all you can do is derive a conclusion, which is what a conviction based on circumstantial evidence is.

This nom is good to go, using the ALT1 hook. Marrante (talk) 07:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Distributed backbone

• ... that a Distributed backbone is a backbone network that consists of a number of connectivity devices connected to a series of central connectivity devices?

Created by Bencst13 (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Good work so far, but this article is too short, as it is at 1,089 characters. There's still time for you to expand it, though. Please get the article's prose sections up to 1,500 characters (headers and citations do not count toward the characters). Keep at it, and this will qualify when you add more info! OCNative (talk) 05:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Metallica v. Napster, Inc.

• ... that Metallica v. Napster, Inc. was the first case that involved an artist suing a P2P software company?

Created by Bcca15 (talk) and Cookeri6 (talk). Nominated by Jaobar (talk) 03:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I reformatted the submission and added creation notations & credits for Bcca15 and Cookeri6, and nomination credit for Jaobar. Please verify that these are correct. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 03:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• All checks out. Did some tidying, and de-orphaned it and added some categories, so it's all good to go now. Amazed this didn't already have an article since it had such a significant impact on peer to peer file sharing. Good job to all those involved! Miyagawa (talk) 13:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Narcotics Control Board (Ghana)

• ... that since 2007, the Narcotics Control Board of Ghana, through its collaboration with the Operation West Bridge project, has intercepted illicit drugs worth £214 million at the Kotoka International Airport?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Young Harris ]

Date, length, and hook all check out. The only thing that concerns me in the article is a major unsourced claim under successes that NACOB has reduced the drug trade in the country since its creation. This statement should be either sourced or deleted, I think. -- Khazar (talk) 01:58, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• The statement in question has been sourced now. CrossTempleJay12:58, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I remain a little concerned that this article seems primarily constructed from NACOB press releases that have been reprinted by Ghanaian press. This gives it a slightly advert-like tone, though I know this isn't your intent. (Successes are credited to NACOB leadership, challenges to the flaws of other countries, and we only hear about the successes in detail). It's clearly a worthwhile and notable topic--I'm just not sure if it's DYK-ready. Since this is less my area of expertise, I'm going to bow out on this one and let another editor make the final call. -- Khazar (talk) 13:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Issues sorted out. The concerns about an aspect of tone of the article has been changed. Again, the news sources in the reference are from regional websites making them acceptable as sources for references. The rest of the references come from official Government of Ghana websites, I believe that those too are accepted as references on Misplaced Pages. CrossTempleJay18:33, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Ok. Looks good to me. -- Khazar (talk) 02:25, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Siamak Pourzand

• ... that a daughter of Iranian dissident Siamak Pourzand described his suicide as "a way for him to finally find freedom"?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Khazar and Roozbeh. Self nom at 16:29, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the journalism of Siamak Pourzand ranged from film criticism for Cahiers du cinéma to coverage of the "Chain Murders" of Iranian dissidents?

Reviewed: Abbud al-Zumar, David Tyler (UK), Larry Geraty

Note: This article had to be blanked due to copyright violation (almost the entire article was a cut-and-paste job from PEN America's website). The article thus went from ~3600 chars of invalid text to ~6000 chars of valid, sourced text. I realize this isn't quite x2, but since the previous text had to be deleted as copyright vio, my understanding is that its characters don't "count"; the article actually went from close to 0 chars to 6000 chars. So I think it's eligible under DYK, but if I'm wrong, please feel free to remove. -- Khazar (talk) 18:51, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• I accept this. The article is fine. The hook is sourced, but note that the reference had the wrong URL (it went to an Amnesty article rather than the Washington Times article). Good to go. Drmies (talk) 03:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix. A sloppy cut-and-paste job of the template on my part. -- Khazar (talk) 04:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. That's why this is a collaborative effort. You should see my articles before the proofreaders go over it. Drmies (talk) 12:27, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Note that this is not a BLP so the 2x expansion rule does not apply. I haven't looked into the situation, but if it went from almost 0 to 6000, it would certainly be acceptable as a 5x expansion. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Good point, and sorry for the confusion. He died a week ago, so it was marked BLP when we started work. But yes, we did have to start from 0, and added ~6000 chars. I'm not sure if that makes it new or a x5 expansion, but either way we seem to be good. --Khazar (talk) 22:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

David Tyler (UK)

• ... that British TV and radio comedy producer and director David Tyler is a member of the Labour Party?

Created by ISD (talk). Self nom at 14:16, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, hook all check out. Good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 16:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• If you wish, here is an alternative hook: "... that the producer and director of Bigipedia, David Tyler, is a member of the Labour Party?" ISD (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Agree that this is the better hook. --Khazar (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Larry Geraty

• ... that archeologist Larry Geraty who served as President of La Sierra University and the American Schools of Oriental Research was a graduate of Pacific Union College (pictured)?

• Reviewed: third self nom, not required
• Comment: Can provide other hooks if this one isn't good. Just moved out of userspace a few minutes ago. BelloWello (talk) 04:31, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Created by BelloWello (talk), DonaldRichardSands (talk). Self nom at 04:31, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Length, date, and hook sources all check out, but I do have a few small reservations I'd like to see addressed. The first, and most important, is that the hook is rather weak. The main fact here appears to be that he graduated from Pacific Union College, which simply isn't hook-y for me. I wonder if the variety of countries he lived in as a child would be a better hook, or perhaps a major archaeological accomplishment, or something that could be considered a surprising fact of genuine interest. (Unless there's something unusual about Pacific Union that's not immediately apparent.)

Second, the awards section feels rather POV; the quotations from the award citations could be more clearly sourced.

Third, I've removed a section without any content. This can be added in later if this content is found.

Hope this helps! -- Khazar (talk) 19:13, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

1. The problem is the counties he lived in aren't individually sourced to secondary sources. (I wanted to do that too...) Some of them are, the rest are from a list that wasn't from a source independent of the subject. I liked the PUC hook because (i) there was an image for it, (ii) it was reliably sourced and (iii) PUC is a small school with less than 30 graduates in their alumni category on wikipedia, so it did seem somewhat distinctive.
2. I'll work on the awards, do you have anything more specific you want addressed? I did cut down on quite a few of them...
3. The section you removed was a lvl 3 header which contained two lvl 4 headers with content, so it might not readily appear to so, but it did have content in two sub headers. BelloWello (talk) 19:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and sorry about the header--I wasn't looking closely enough. Generally DYK rules discourage those sorts of section tags, which is the reason I jumped the gun. Why don't we just make those L4 headers into L3s? As for the hook, why not mention that he went to an Adventist high school, college, and theological seminary for his education? Or even better, that he supported ordination of women in the Adventist church? That gives it a bit more of an angle to pull in readers and appears clearly-sourced.

In the awards, all I meant was that the line between the awards' descriptions of him and the article's description of him appears unclear at times, and that you might make this distinction more clearly. Thanks for the quick response! -- Khazar (talk) 19:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I'll make the suggested change with the headers. How about one of these for the hook?

• ALT1 ... that archeologist Larry Geraty who served as President of La Sierra University and the American Schools of Oriental Research was born to missionary parents is a product of Adventist Education including Pacific Union College (pictured) and Adventist Theological Seminary?

• ALT2 ... that Larry Geraty a former President of La Sierra University and the American Schools of Oriental Research and an alumnus of Pacific Union College (pictured) and the Adventist Theological Seminary was noted for his support of women's ordination in the Adventist Church?

BelloWello (talk) 19:34, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, both these hooks are too long (200 chars max). I know you want to get that picture in there, but since it's not a picture of Gerarty himself, one of his digs, etc., I'm not sure it's quite necessary in this case; the pic's claim to relevance is very weak. What would you say to ALT3 ... that archeologist Larry Geraty was also noted for his support of women's ordination in the Adventist Church? It's clear, concise, and interesting. -- Khazar (talk) 19:43, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I would like to include the picture if possible. How about ALT4: ... that archaeologist Larry Geraty, an alumnus of Pacific Union College (pictured), was also noted for supporting women's ordination in the Adventist Church? Would that be acceptable? BelloWello (talk) 19:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your patience and quick responses in addressing my concerns. I'd say that hook's good to go. The only caveat I'd add is that I'm still not 100% sold on the relevance of the picture, so if the editor assembling the template decides not to use it, the phrase about Geraty being a PUC alumnus should also be cut from the hook. But I'm happy to leave that decision to the assembling editor. -- Khazar (talk) 20:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Manihot walkerae

• ... that crosses of cassava with the endangered Walker's Manihot possess tubers that experience delayed postharvest physiological deterioration?

Created by TDogg310 (talk). Self nom at 23:47, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, length fine, hook to subscription-database article AGF. Well-put together article. -- Khazar (talk) 02:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on May 8

Ronald Pope

• ... that the sculptor Ronald Pope learnt how to work with metals at Rolls-Royce during WWII?

Created by Ttzavaras (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 14:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Stanislao Gastaldon

• ... that Stanislao Gastaldon's song "Musica proibita" has been recorded by such famous tenors as Enrico Caruso (in 1917), Mario Lanza (in 1952), Luciano Pavarotti (in 1984), and Andrea Bocelli (in 2002)?

5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by 4meter4 (talk) at 09:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1 ... that "Musica proibita" by Italian composer Stanislao Gastaldon (pictured) was the first of six songs for which he also wrote the lyrics under the pseudonym "Flick-Flock"?

Prefer this one. More interesting, I think and I'd have to individually reference all the various singers. Voceditenore (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I like the alt hook better too, and I crossed out mine. I reviewed Phantom of the Mall: Eric's Revenge ().4meter4 (talk) 09:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Just a note for the reviewer, the ALT 1 hook and its citation can be found in the 4th sentence of the paragraph immediately following the lyrics excerpt in the section "Musica probita". – Voceditenore (talk) 10:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

German destroyer Z13 Erich Koellner

• ... that German destroyer Z13 Erich Koellner visibly tilted when hit by the 15-inch (380 mm) semi-armor piercing shells fired by the battleship HMS Warspite during the Second Battle of Narvik on 13 April 1940?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 00:29, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Bill Murphy (GATA chairman)

Camp Ashraf massacre

• ... that in the Camp Ashraf massacre, the Iraqi Army used armed force against unarmed civilians, killing 34 people and injuring another 318?

• Reviewed: Central Committee of Polish Jews

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, size check out. The subject seems controversial but the refs seem reliable (for recent news) and AGFed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:37, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Chiapas

• ... that the state of Chiapas produces most of Mexico's coffee and hydroelectric power?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1 ... that the state of Chiapas is home to twelve of Mexico's federally recognized indigenous peoples?

Reviewed Yan Yan Chan Thelmadatter (talk) 20:27, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Verified date (9 May UTC), 5x expansion, hooks (coffee is on-line, hydro is off-line and/or Spanish so AGF). Station1 (talk) 19:05, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Bill Murphy (GATA chairman)

• ... that GATA chairman Bill Murphy revealed the name of whistleblower Andrew Maguire at a CFTC hearing on regulating gold and silver trading and the next day, Maguire and his wife were hit by a car?

• Reviewed: Battle of Brunanburh (poem)

Created by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:29, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)

• ... that although Ray Charles and Nancy Sinatra solos of "Here We Go Again" made Billboard's Hot 100, Charles' 2004 duet with Norah Jones won 2 Grammy Awards but was the second Record of the Year not to?

• Reviewed: Depot Town

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 14:00, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Al-Sakhir Palace

• ... that two kilometres from Al-Sakhir Palace in Bahrain is an oil-pumping well disguised as a hoopoe bird?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 11:02, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hook, length, date all check out. Ready to go. -- CrossTempleJay  talk 13:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Banksia paludosa.--Nvvchar. 03:14, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Added link and tightened hook (it's a good one!) Yoninah (talk) 23:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Ghana Police Service

• ... that the Ghana Police Service set up the Marine Police Unit to handle cases of piracy and associated crimes from the country's oil and gas industry?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed High performance technology ]

• Article has only half the required size of 1500 characters, and the lead phrase as it currently is should be removed because it does not relate well to the article title. The first section is a very close paraphrase of this source, possibly amounting to a copyright problem. You can convert the numbered lists to normal text, thereby increasing the "prose count" relevant to DYK, but please reword it to avoid plagiarism / copyright issues. --Pgallert (talk) 08:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Concerns about structure and possible copyright infringement revised. All has now been sorted out. Crosstemplejay12:47, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hmm, not quite. The article is now long enough, and the date checks out as well. But the hook in my opinion misrepresents what the source says (and so does the article): the piracy and associated crimes from the country's oil and gas industry is clearly a minor responsibility compared to the enforcement of the various Fishery Acts. Thus to say that the force was "set up to handle cases of piracy..." is not supported by the source. By the way, to connect the establishment of the Marine Unit to Ghana's oil finds as done in the article is a text book example of a synthesis; the one source does not mention the Police, the other one is mum on the oil reserves. --Pgallert (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• New concerns raised above have all be addressed. All ambiguous statements clarified or deleted.  CrossTempleJay  talk 21:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1:... the Ghana Police Service set up the Marine Police Unit to amongst other functions, handle policing in relation to the country's oil and gas industry? Crosstemplejaytalk21:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Relating to content and refs this hook is fine but it reads a bit bumpy to me. How about:
    • ALT 2 ... that the Marine Unit of the Ghana Police Service is responsible for cases of piracy and associated crimes from the country's oil and gas industry? --Pgallert (talk) 09:30, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
    • ALT 2 is alright. CrossTempleJay  talk 12:21, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

      Good to go then for ALT2. --Pgallert (talk) 13:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Heathrow (hamlet)

• ... that the Royal Aeronautical Society held garden parties at Fairey Aviation's Great West Aerodrome in Heathrow (map pictured), which is now Heathrow Airport?

• ALT1:that Heathrow was once a rural hamlet involved in market gardening?
• ALT2:that Heathrow once hosted the Middlesex Agricultural & Growers Association's annual ploughing matches?

5x expanded by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: The Widow (film)
• Length and recent 5x verified (should have been under 5 May though), all hook facts accepted in good faith. — Toдor Boжinov — 08:48, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Length, hook, date all check out. Good to go.

• Thanks, I didn't know whether this should be listed by the date I began the expansion or when I completed it. Harrison49 (talk) 16:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Henri Lavachery

• ... that Henri Lavachery, the first professional archaeologist to visit Easter Island, founded the Society of Americanists in Belgium?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: National Museum of Sudan

Date and length good to go, hook confirmed with sources. Doing a little copyediting now, but overall, very nice article. Surprising that he's never been included before this point. -- Khazar (talk) 15:22, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Refugee Board (Ghana)

• ... that in March 2011, the Ghana Refugee Board partnered with the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) and other state agencies to assist refugees from Ivory Coast?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed High performance technology ]

"Under review" by User:AshLin.

• Newly created = okay.
• hook contains title= Yes.
• hook fact inline cited= Yes.
• all paras cited= Yes.
• within policy= Yes.
• no copyright or paraphrasing problems=Yes.
• Min 1500 prose length with DYKCheck=Shows 1438 with DYK, 1441, manual counting. Imho, the article is a mite sparse. Some expansion of the good work done/ details could be done not only to satisfy DYK norms but also to satisfy the curiousity of visitors. While no limit can be specified for this, author/nominator is requested to please expand the parent article to meet this aspect in letter and spirit. AshLin (talk) 05:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• I count 1,605 characters, which beats the minimum 1,500 requirement. However, DYK rules allow rejection of 1,500-character articles as too short. Until the concerns raised by AshLin are met, this still is too short despite meeting the mechanical requirement of 1,500 characters. Perhaps, the "Functions of the board" section could be expanded. OCNative (talk) 05:58, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• . Expanded by Nominator to acceptable length. Good to go. AshLin (talk) 17:24, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

High performance technology

• ... that high performance computing systems have shifted from supercomputing to computing clusters and grids?

Created by Ledraisel (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 21:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook all check out. Ready to go.  CrossTempleJay  talk 22:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Can we look at this again? The title is High performance technology so this should include advanced balsa modelling, quick cooking macaroni etc. And are we saying this is the first[REDACTED] article on "high performance computers"? I'm sure Ive seen somethuing on that subject here before. Can a 3rd party do a review please. Victuallers (talk) 15:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Amina Bokhary controversy

• ... that the 2010 Amina Bokhary controversy provoked an uproar in Hong Kong for alleged preferential treatment for a member of a well-connected family?

• Note: Article was previously speedied and userified. It was then rewritten by Ohconfucius and was moved back to article space on 8 May.
• Reviewed: Steam devil ()

Created by Ohconfucius (talk). Nominated by Deryck Chan (talk) at 21:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources all look good. My only question is that I had trouble referencing the specific claim of an uproar to a specific source. While clearly true, it's still a bit of a judgment call. One headline describes a "police uproar" but not a more general one. Another good solid fact is the survey on confidence in the judiciary. I wonder if you might cite a more concrete fact here, such as the number of people at a march, or a more direct quote from a news source. I apologize if that's a really pedantic concern to bring to such an already well-researched and well-constructed article; it's just that with a controversial subject like I want to make sure we get the hook right. -- Khazar (talk) 15:51, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
  • I've got a really bad Internet connection, so I will just post a couple of links – the first one is particularly straight to the point with the headline; the articles in the second link will provide a deeper insight, if needed:

    Dennis Chong (August 12, 2010), Furor over Bokhary `unhelpful'

    6 South China Morning Post articles. Let me know if your concerns are not sufficiently dealt with. –Ohconfucius 16:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

    • Looks good to me. Sorry I missed that one on the first pass, and congrats on a nice article. -- Khazar (talk) 17:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
      • Thanks Khazar and Ohconfucius for meticulously going through the citations, and well done archiving copies of SCMP articles in the talk history! --Deryck C. 18:03, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
• Thanks to Deryck for the nomination. I have a small issue with the hook viz: I don't so much think the 'Amina Bokhary controversy' provoked an uproar, because it was the uproar itself; the legal judgement was the source of the uproar. Any ideas how to reword? --Ohconfucius 10:33, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that the Amina Bokhary controversy was an uproar caused by the alleged preferential treatment of a member of a well-connected family by the judicial system in Hong Kong? Ohconfucius 15:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

A nominated article must be new. For purposes of DYK, a "new" article is no more than five days old, and may not consist of text spun off from a pre-existing article. This article is not new. It was created in January 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Amina_Bokhary_controversy&limit=500&action=history. Then it got deleted last month http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Amina_Bokhary_controversy&action=historysubmit&diff=426863147&oldid=426117315. It does not qualify as expansion since then. 61.18.170.162 (talk) 15:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to respond by saying that DYK criteron D8 states "Five days old" means five days old in article space. Having been deleted and re-created (whatever means it was deleted from article space) means it's a new article. Of course, per rule D13, I'll leave the admins in charge of DYK to decide whether this article qualifies for DYK. --Deryck C. 21:42, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

88 Generation Students Group, Mie Mie

• ... that 88 Generation democracy activist Mie Mie (pictured) was noted for appearing in photos of Saffron Revolution protests with her fist raised?

Note: This hook includes two new articles.

Reviewed: American Women's Voluntary Services, Uncle Yo

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Nice articles, date, length ok. However, the photo is unfortunately not public domain and can thus not be included in DYK. Also, I would suggest a more interesting hook: such as ALT1: ... that in 2008, Burmese 88 Generation democracy activist Mie Mie was sentenced to 65 years imprisonment for "illegally using electronic media" and "forming an illegal organization"? --Soman (talk) 16:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Too bad on the photo, but makes sense. ALT1 looks good to me. Thanks for reviewing, and for the ALT hook. -- Khazar (talk) 16:44, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Steam devil

• ... that steam devils can be more important than convection in vertically transporting moisture during cold air outbreaks?

5x expanded by Spinningspark (talk). Self nom at 18:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Alexei Grigoryevich Orlov

• Information from the cited paper agrees with the hook. The paper did not make an explicit direct comparison between convection and steam devils, possibly because convection is a phenomenon involved in steam devils; however I believe the paraphrasing in the article would not amount to original research. --Deryck C. 21:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• "The lidar aircraft data showed evidence of steam devils penetrating deep into the boundary layer, suggesting that these steam devils transport some of the moisture to greater depths than heat." SpinningSpark 20:56, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Yes that's what I figured, but those without any specialist training in thermodynamics may not appreciate why that was a comparison between steam devils and convection. (Boundary layer is a difficult concept.) Hence I gave the tick and wrote to say there was some significant paraphrasing but assured that all required information can be found in the paper. It's all good to go. Thanks for teaching me this while I'm revising for my thermodynamics exam. --Deryck C. 17:57, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District

• ... that the Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District in rural Connecticut preserves a site where thousands of New York City women were given summer vacations during 1892 to 1945?

Created by Doncram (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Looks good to go. Interesting fact. Schmidt, 07:25, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd be very happy if anyone would care to write a more fun hook. This blog picked up on a few hook-like factoids; i didn't want to straight copy theirs tho. --doncram 20:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

The name of the article by itself creates a pretty effective hook! :-) --Orlady (talk) 14:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Before this can be promoted, the hook needs formatting; insert relevant wikilinks, bold for the target article. You may find it easier to use this template for future nominations. Schwede66 22:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting. Okay, I bolded the target article now. I am not keen on wikilinking "Connecticut" and other stuff not germane to the article; i just prefer not wikilinking in this hook. Maybe for a different/better hook. --doncram 03:03, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Uncle Yo

• ... that comedian Uncle Yo specializes in performing at geek events such as anime conventions?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Note that the article was created in the sandbox and only now moved to the mainspace, so the (mainspace) creation date is indeed May 8. It is my understanding that this fulfills "creation" criteria.
• Reviewed #FCC v. AT&T Inc.

Date ok, squeaks in on length, but I agree with the references tag on the article that this does not yet appear to meet notability. Suggest adding significant third-party sources to demonstrate notability if possible. --Khazar (talk) 21:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with the templates: majority of the refs are secondary sources that I believe demonstrate notability. A disagreement can be discussed on talk or at AfD, but till an AfD puts this nom on hold I'd like this not to hold up a DYK nom. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

My initial impression would be that only the two blog posts here would count as truly "secondary" sources, as the others appear to be press releases or announcements for where Uncle Yo will be appearing. I'm sorry to say I'm not convinced this meets the notability threshold for reliable secondary sources, and my understanding of the DYK guidelines is that an article that hasn't met the source policies isn't ready to be approved. The best I can say is that if another editor wants to give this approval, I won't block her/him. Or if you can find some more clean-cut examples of reliable secondary sources--or explain how these sources are--I'm game for reconsidering. Sorry I can't be more help. -- Khazar (talk) 00:15, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I think a blog (interview) is used only for one of the nineteen footnotes. Almost all content is referenced with what I think are proper secondary sources - Anime News Network news portal or convention websites. I am open for further discussion of the reliability of the sources at WP:RSN, as mentioned on talk, but I'd hate for this article to be denied DYKing because we are discussing the sources (hence, I'd also welcome a quick AFD "trial by fire" discussion, which IIRC puts DYKs on hold). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

On hold for AfD discussion. This article appears to meet all other DYK criteria, and if it passes AfD, Piotrus is welcome to change my vote to "approve" without checking with me first; notability is my only concern here. -- Khazar (talk) 01:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Head Standard

• ... that the success of the Head Standard, the first modern downhill ski design, propelled Head to be the largest ski company in the world by the 1960s?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the image would be better if it was rotated, long-way up. But I don't know how to do this.

No, this image will never work at 100px, whichever orientation you choose. Schwede66 22:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

List of San Marino national football team results

• ... that San Marino has only ever won a single international football match?

• Reviewed: Metallica v. Napster, Inc.

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 14:00, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• The hook fact is not cited in the lead. New article with just enough text to qualify (as the content of the table doesn't count).— Rod 17:38, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Added citation - sorry thought I already had. Miyagawa (talk) 17:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks all OK now.— Rod 18:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Robin Yearwood

• ... that Antiguan politician Robin Yearwood has held the same seat in the Antiguan Parliament continuously since 1976?

Ironholds (talk) 09:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Zayar Thaw, Generation Wave.

OK, but why are there no url links?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Because they're sources I dug up from private, subscription-only archives. Ironholds (talk) 13:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

WASP-43b

• ... that extrasolar planet WASP-43b was, at the time of its discovery, the most closely-orbiting Hot Jupiter known?

Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Theoretical ecology --Starstriker7 05:28, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Zayar Thaw, Generation Wave

• ... that imprisoned Burmese singer Zayar Thaw's group Generation Wave distributed anti-government hip-hop and copies of banned movies, including Rambo IV?

Reviewed: Narcotics Control Board (Ghana), Manihot walkerae, and Great Anatolia Party

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Ironholds (talk)

Great Anatolia Party

• ... that logo of the Great Anatolia Party of Turkey was consisted from a perforated drum and a leaping jaguar in the drum hole?

Created by Logom (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

While an apparently notable subject, and sufficient in length and date, both the hook and article will need substantial grammatical cleanup to be ready for the front page. I'm sorry I can't help out more with this, Logom. I started in on the article but at times had difficulty determining the intention of the sentences. Since the given sources are in Turkish, I couldn't go to those either. Perhaps another bilingual editor could help this one? -- Khazar (talk) 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes

• ... that Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes was in development from 2004 to 2009 before a cease-and-desist letter from Square Enix led to its cancellation?

Created by Jonathan Hardin' (talk). Nominated by GamerPro64 (talk) at 02:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, size, hook check out. Sources indicate sufficient notability, too. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 02:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Piazza della Rotonda

• ... that the fountain in Rome's Piazza della Rotonda (pictured) was built by Giacomo della Porta to bring water from the Acqua Vergine aqueduct to the public?

5x expanded by Glenfarclas (talk). Self nom at 07:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• sorry, I can see the mass-expansion took place in January 2010, which is a shame as it is a nice article. Could it be expanded to 2500 words? Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• No, that was as a draft in my userspace. Then I forgot about it for a long time, until this month, when I worked on it through the 6th and 7th. On the 8th I had an admin delete the redirect which previously occupied the title and move my draft there, at which point it went live. You can see where that was done in this edit. Hope this helps.  Glenfarclas  (talk) 10:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• d'oh! hang on a minute....Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:54, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• offline refs taken in good faith. good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 9

Fay Kellogg

• ... that Fay Kellogg, described as "the foremost woman architect in the United States" in 1918, liked to fence, box, wrestle and play basketball?

• Reviewed: Chiapas

Created by Station1 (talk). Self nom at 19:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Ben Boyd National Park, Nadgee Nature Reserve

• ... that the heathlands of Ben Boyd National Park and Nadgee Nature Reserve are habitat for the endangered Eastern Bristlebird?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Articles check out; hook confirmed in assumption of good faith. Ucucha 02:52, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

NB: reviewed Piazza della Rotonda Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Anna (Anisia)

• ... that Anna, the first wife of 13th-century Bulgarian tsar Ivan Asen II, was forever exiled to a monastery shortly after her husband's accession?

• Reviewed: Rubha an Dùnain

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 10:17, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date are fine, AGF for offline, foreign language refs on her exile but there needs to be an inline citation after the fact that her exile was after her husband's began his reign - Basement12 (T.C) 11:17, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for the review! I've inserted a footnote after the fact. — Toдor Boжinov — 11:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Still not quite right - I think the citation is needed after "She was exiled to a monastery in the beginning of Ivan Asen's reign, after he arranged his marriage to Anna Maria of Hungary." - Basement12 (T.C) 12:23, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm a bit reluctant to add references to the intro because I believe all of it its facts are already in the body. That she was exiled after Ivan Asen took the throne is clear from the article text, but I've added the footnote to the intro anyway :) — Toдor Boжinov — 12:46, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

The problem I've got is that both him taking the throne and her exile are dated as 1218, the intro is the only place that states definitively which happened first - Basement12 (T.C) 13:29, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I mentioned that specifically in the body (though I think it was quite clear from the narrative) and I added a footnote to the intro (I thought I had done that, but I obviously hadn't :)) — Toдor Boжinov — 15:29, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Ready to go - Basement12 (T.C) 18:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

W. Darrell Overdyke

• ... that historian W. Darrell Overdyke spent more than three decades researching the colonial and antebellum plantation homes in his adopted state of Louisiana?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed A Passion for Churches

• Date, length, hook ref verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

OZ Group

• ... that the wheel supplier for the Toyota Celica that brought Carlos Sainz his first WRC title in 1990 started out in a filling station near Venice just 19 years earlier?

Created by Danno uk (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• edited to reduce overlinking Ohconfucius 16:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Desmond Arthur

• ... that Desmond Arthur has haunted Montrose Airfield since 1916?

Created by Lcw27 (talk). Self nom at 20:56, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Ludwig von Westphalen

• ... that baron Ludwig von Westphalen was a friend and mentor of young Karl Marx?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 20:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #Atlantis (docudrama)

ready to go, everything checks out (long enough, new enough, hook ref, within policy). -- Health Researcher (talk) 22:06, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Dhammapada (Easwaran translation)

• ... that Easwaran's Dhammapada states that the joy in the Buddha's message is "the joy of knowing that he has found a way for everyone, not just great sages, to put an end to sorrow"?

Created by Health Researcher (talk). Self nom at 20:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Request SPECIAL OCCASION: Let's run this DYK on May 17, the day in 2011 that India/Indonesia/South Asia celebrates as Buddha Purnima/Vesākha (aka "Buddha's birthday"). NB: In 2011, East-Asia celebrates "Buddha's Birthday" on May 10, which seems too short-notice (unless someone wants to really fast-track the review+queue!) --Health Researcher (talk) 20:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed (by nom): #Ludwig_von_Westphalen ()

Note that article is new because it was moved into Mainspace (from userspace) on May 9.

• ALT 1 (shorter by 4 words, but loses some meaning that may be valuable): ... that Easwaran's Dhammapada states that the joy in the Buddha's message is "that he has found a way for everyone, not just great sages, to put an end to sorrow"?    -- Health Researcher (talk) 20:39, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

→ → → Please review soon if possible for May 17 special occasion deadline. Hopefully easy to review since book itself is viewable in Google bookview, and the hook's direct quote has a footnote that links directly to quote in Google bookview. Health Researcher (talk) 00:48, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Atlantis (docudrama)

• ... that a reviewer unfavourably compared the dialogue in BBC docudrama Atlantis: End of a World, Birth of a Legend to that of Holby City?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, size, hook ref check out. I added a cite request to the article, but it should not interfere with the DYK process. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:47, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Fusakichi Omori

• ... that pioneering seismologist Fusakichi Omori (pictured) of the Imperial University of Tokyo, who mapped the effects of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, later designed and donated the equipment to found the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory?

Created by Ellin Beltz (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Original hook was way over 200 mark. There is no direct mention of the San Andreas Fault or Berkeley in the article and a duplicate "the" in the hook. Alt suggestion below.
  • ... that pioneering seismologist Fusakichi Omori (pictured) of the Imperial University of Tokyo, who mapped the effects of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, later designed and donated the equipment to found the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory?
• I love your suggestion, I didn't know about the 200 mark, I changed what I proposed yesterday to how you suggested and thank you very much for your help! I keep trying to do stuff right, but often am confused. I changed my hook which read "that pioneering seismologist Fusakichi Omori (pictured) of the the Imperial University of Tokyo who mapped the San Andreas Fault and donated seismographs to the University of California, Berkeley after the 1906 San Francisco earthquake later designed and donated the equipment to found the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory?" to yours!! I sure hope I did this right. Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• No problem at all. Better to have left the original and indicated acceptance of the alternative proposal as that makes it slightly easier for others to follow the thread, but it's not worth amending again. As far as I can see it is now:

• Good to go. Ben MacDui 17:49, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Manhyia Palace

• ... that the Manhyia Palace in Ghana is the seat of the Asantehene (ruler of the Ashanti people) as well as his official residence?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Al-Sakhir Palace ]

• Timeliness of submission, length of article, and length of hook check out. Online cite OK. Ready for the queue! (I tweaked your hook a bit to show where this palace is, and who the Asantehene is). - Tim1965 (talk) 02:22, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Gusty Spence

• ... that imprisoned Ulster Volunteer Force leader Gusty Spence was "kidnapped" by his own men after being granted two-days leave to attend his daughter's wedding?

5x expanded by Keresaspa (talk). Nominated by Jeanne boleyn (talk) at 16:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• the article the hook is about needs to be bolded. Outside of that, everything looks swell --Guerillero | My Talk 18:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• It's already bolded. Gusty Spence.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Yan Yan Chan

• ... that Yan Yan Chan, whose band Acid released Burma's first hip hop album, spent nine months in prison for involvement in the pro-democracy group Generation Wave?

Reviewed: Henri Lavachery.

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• All OK Thelmadatter (talk) 20:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Article is still classified as a stub. DYK articles need to be minimally classified as Start. Also, the article's "DEFAULTSORT" name is "Yan Yan Chan". I am unfamiliar with Burmese naming conventions, so I'm not sure if this is correct or not. Shouldn't it be "Chan, Yan Yan"? Jrcla2 (talk) 15:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• The naming convention is correct... there's a MOS chapter that deals with Burmese names but I'll be danged if I can find the link. As a 15-sentence article with 2000+ chars, 11 references, and several major incidents of the subject's life, it appears to me that this article has exceeded the stub definition, so I'm upgrading it to "start". If I'm doing this erroneously, though, I'm happy to be corrected--I'm not as familiar with those sorting guidelines as I should be. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 15:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• What I meant by Stub Class is that, if an article is to be a DYK and on the main page, it cannot be classified as a stub. The article in question is a Start Class, and yes should have been changed to such, but it was not my place to do it since it needed to be brought to your attention. I'm not concerned with the naming convention, I figured it was probably correct as is but thought I should at least ask. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

No problem--I appreciate your noticing. Cheers Khazar (talk) 16:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Fine Manners

• ... that Lewis Milestone began directing the 1926 silent film Fine Manners, but that he left the project after quarreling with star Gloria Swanson and it was then completed by Richard Rosson?

• Comment: reviewed #Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District Schmidt, 07:33, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and citation for the hook = all OK. Good work. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:23, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Pimoa cthulhu

• ... that the California spider species Pimoa cthulhu was named after H. P. Lovecraft's mythological deity Cthulhu?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 05:48, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed requested fixes to Millingtonia
• This is a good and informative article, however, the DYK hook lacks inline citation, as well as the other important sections of the article: "Distribution", "Type specimens", "Description". The inline citations serve to better and direct identification of sources. It should be fixed. Please, review Misplaced Pages:Did_you_know#DYK_rules, #3. Thank you. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed, it shows I should avoid completing and noming articles when I'm tired! The hook and other sections were all from the type description.--Kevmin § 18:00, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Looking good, hook confirmed. Ucucha 02:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Kepler-5b

• ... that extrasolar planet Kepler-5b's extreme temperature, small orbit, and large size have brought attention to the planet as a possible case study into similar extreme planets?

5x expanded by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Oskar Daubmann, right below. --Starstriker7 03:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook fact are all fine. (I tweaked the wording of the hook a bit.) Good luck at GAC. Qrsdogg (talk) 14:00, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Oskar Daubmann

• ... that a conman impersonating Oskar Daubmann received international fame, caused an incident in French-German relations, and helped the Nazis win the 1932 German elections?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 02:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Whoa, that is a fascinating story. Lead, length, newness check out; a review has been completed; three different portions of the article combine to form the hook, and all three are well-cited. The Museum of Hoaxes website seems to puzzle me a bit as to reliability (probably because I've never heard of it), but it seems to be cited itself by newspapers, so I'll accept it in good faith. I accept the foreign-language ref in good faith as well. --Starstriker7 03:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually, if I may make a suggestion, the hook could clarify who Oskar Daubmann is. For example, "that a conman impersonating the soldier Oskar Daubmann..." --Starstriker7 03:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I am fine with the alt hook suggestion. The website could be dubious, but enough of the story can be verified in other sources that I think it is true. Also, the author of the website in question has published a book with the same story. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes.

West Bengal elections

• ... that the Communist Party of India (Marxist) loses power in West Bengal for the first time in decades following an election?

• ALT1: ... that the Trinamool Congress wins power in West Bengal for the first time in decades following an election

or obviously as per the results indicate, though its highly leaning towards the cpim losing..

Created/expanded by Lihaas (talk), Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• The article was previously nominated upon creation but i was told by whoever is the guy who runs DYK (forget the name) to renom at election results time. Elections results come in on the 13 May morning India time, within 12 ohours of which it should be updated (certainly by 24 hours) with results and MP details. Also the current tag/s on the page will be sorted by then.

I reviewed Craig Whyte.Lihaas (talk) 02:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• WP:CRYSTALBALL. You can't put out hooks about possible future events, there is no way you can guarantee the accuracy of this. In short, there is no point in formulating a DYK proposal about results that hasn't occured yet. --Soman (talk) 03:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Thats why there is an alternative.

I was going to suggest "carried over 6 phases and a month," but we did the same blurb for bihar last year so i opted for some variety.

also, i think both will only be posted AFTER updates, so we have to wait for results anywaysLihaas (talk) 20:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

crystall ball, eh? ;)Lihaas (talk) 16:49, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you posted the hook on May 9, four days before the counting of the votes started to be counted. There was no way that hook could have been sourced at that point, as it involved speculation about future events. As per the wording of the hook, there is also the experience of UF gov'ts in West Bengal a few decades ago. --Soman (talk) 17:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 10

Bill Thieben

• ... that former basketball player Bill Thieben is considered the first "big man" in Hofstra University history?

• Reviewed: Yan Yan Chan

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• The hook, the length and the date are verified.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

VX-6

• ... that the first people to visit the South Pole since Robert Falcon Scott (1912) arrived in 1956 in a U.S. Navy R4D Skytrain (pictured) of the VX-6 squadron?

• Reviewed: Wildlife of Zimbabwe (])

Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 03:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Poison affair of Palestinian schoolgirls

• ... that after hundreds of Palestinian schoolgirls came down with unexplained symptoms Yasser Arafat accused Israel in "planned and systematic crime" against Palestinian people?

• Reviewed: I have less than 5 DYK

Created by ברוקולי (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• The neutrality is disputed. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• I agree that this article has substantial POV problems. The story is written almost entirely from the POV of an Israeli think tank, the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. There is unfortunately an ongoing and indeed increasing problem with the submission of POV articles from a certain political faction at this project, and I think we are going to have to start taking some steps to address this problem. Gatoclass (talk) 02:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the actual problem is "an ongoing and indeed increasing problem with the spurious rejection of legitimate articles from a certain political faction at this project." Plot Spoiler (talk) 14:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• I wouldn't say it's sourced "almost entirely" to the JCPA, but the "Media reports" section and the absence of scholarly commentary are enough to disqualify the article. I did a cursory GBooks search for the purpose of establishing notability, and there appears to be more than enough material to cover the incident in a neutral fashion. There are psychology books discussing the incident in the context of other "hysterias"; there's that Psychiatric Quarterly source that is linked but not cited. But instead, we choose to make it about how the media hates Israel, oh no, and isn't it funny how this is sourced to self-published "reactions" from conservative think tanks like the Hudson Institute and the JCPA. Fix it up, please. It's okay, not every anti-Arab article has to be featured on the front page. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Arafat falsely accuses the Israelis of poisoning little Palestinian schoolgirls and now somehow this is an "anti-Arab" article? Enough of WP:IDONTLIKEIT for one day. Plot Spoiler (talk) 13:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I propose an alternative. "Did you know that after Palestinian schoolgirls began fainting in 1983 in a case of mass hysteria, Israeli army officials falsely accused Palestinian leaders or poisoning their own people to spark an uprising?"99.120.1.227 (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Lacandon Jungle

• ... that the Lacandon Jungle is the last in North America large enough to support jaguars?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• REVIEWED Temasek Review Thelmadatter (talk) 16:01, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• The date is fine, the hook is fine, but – incredibly – the length falls short. I make the previous version 4353 characters, while the latest version is 20716. We need another 1050 characters to pass the 5× mark. --Stemonitis (talk) 20:19, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I think I have it now.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• I make it 22,383 characters now, which is plenty. Thanks for the quick turnaround. --Stemonitis (talk) 18:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Wellington R. Burt

• I'll leave it to someone else to write the hook. Wellington_R._Burt#Will is particularly interesting in that it took 92 years for his final will to play out.

Created by Green Cardamom (talk). Nominated by Hammersoft (talk) at 15:51, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the nom, Hammersoft.

A hook:

... that 92 years after his death, Wellington R. Burt's $100 million dollar fortune was finally willed to his descendants?

-- Green Cardamom (talk) 16:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Royal Palaces of Abomey

• ... that according to folklore, descendents of the royal family of Abomey who built the Royal Palaces of Abomey (pictured) in Benin are the progeny of Princess Aligbonon of Tado and a panther?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Tibetan Prayer (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Comment. The article was moved from user page to main space on 10 May 2011.--Nvvchar. 13:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Nosson Meir Wachtfogel.--Nvvchar. 14:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• - ready to go. Dincher (talk) 23:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Old All Saints Church, Nuneham Courtenay

• ... that Old All Saints Church (pictured) in Nuneham Courtenay, Oxfordshire, was mainly designed by the 1st Earl Harcourt?

• Reviewed: Walter Anderson (footballer)

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 08:45, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date fine, Image is CC-by-SA 2.0, hook fact backed up by reference. Good to go. Mjroots (talk) 09:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Nosson Meir Wachtfogel

• ... that Rabbi Nosson Meir Wachtfogel, mashgiach (spiritual supervisor) of the Lakewood Yeshiva, was so removed from worldly concerns that he called his house an "inn" and his furniture "lumber"?

• Reviewed: Wir müssen durch viel Trübsal, BWV 146 ()

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Rabbi Nosson Meir Wachtfogel, studying in Kelm, Lithuania when WWII broke out, escaped via the Trans-Siberian Express to Vladivostok, a steamer to Australia, and an airplane to Montreal? Yoninah (talk) 12:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook references 2 and 14 are all fine. I prefer the original hook. Very interesting article. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 14:03, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Zaw Htet Ko Ko

• ... that Zaw Htet Ko Ko, a photographer for the pro-democracy 88 Generation Students Group, is serving an 11-year prison sentence for his involvement in Burma's "Saffron Revolution"?

Reviewed: Amina Bokhary controversy

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• length, date and hook seems okay. Monkeymanman (talk) 17:52, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Craig Whyte

• ... that Scottish businessman Craig Whyte, who recently bought the controlling interest in Rangers Football Club, was Scotland's youngest self-made millionaire in 1997 at the age of 26?

• ALT1:... that Scottish businessman Craig Whyte bought the controlling interest in Rangers Football Club from David Murray for £1?
• Reviewed: Zaw Htet Ko Ko

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Monkeymanman (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Size is good; little less than a 2x expansion ( on 6 may it was 3500 and today its 5500), although it has been well-cited so i think a little lewway might be okay; hook is okay, thouigh id suggest the second one as the first ahas the vague "recently" (although the specific date could be mentioned). Otherwise the article should be good to go pending a city for the sentence "In April 2011, a £28 million deal was thought possible, but depended on agreements on how to service the club's debt (with Lloyds Banking Group), and a £58 million tax bill with HMRC."Lihaas (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• i have added a ref for the sentence, and also included the most recent statement on the tax issue. We could go with the second hook if you prefer but i just thought that the fact that he was Scotlands youngest self made millionaire would be less well known than the widely publicised takeover. Monkeymanman (talk) 22:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

seems good to go now. Although as this is my firs t review im not sure if the 2x requirement (which is slightly less) can be passed. Can someone else confirm this? Otherwise the article meets everythingLihaas (talk) 18:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

okay expanded it by about another 1000. Should be cool now.Monkeymanman (talk) 18:35, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Lihaas (talk) 18:49, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Rowing at the 2012 Summer Olympics

• ... that rowing events at the 2012 Summer Olympics will take place 25 miles outside of host city London, at Dorney Lake (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Anna (Anisia) ()
• Comment: Image isn't the most exciting so I have no problem with this going forward as just a standard hook

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, source fine. Okay to go. --Epipelagic (talk) 19:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Cyrtophora exanthematica

• ... that double-tailed tent spiders (pictured) have to fend off food-stealing dewdrop spiders who take up residence in their webs?

• Reviewed: Great Falls High School ()
• Comment: Hook is a bit awkward but can't think of a better way to word it. Will welcome alt suggestions.

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 08:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook all look good. Well done. Colonel Warden (talk) 10:19, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Titanomyrma

• ... that the discovery of the fossil giant ant Titanomyrma (pictured) in Wyoming indicates that warmth-loving fauna spread through the north between Europe and America during hot spells in the Eocene?

• Reviewed: Refugee Board (Ghana)

5x expanded by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 05:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Added a free image uploaded by User:FunkMonk. AshLin (talk) 05:59, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Suggested alt1="... that the discovery of the hummingbird-sized fossil ant Titanomyrma (pictured) in Wyoming indicates that warmth-loving fauna spread through the north between Europe and America during hot spells in the Eocene?" AshLin (talk) 06:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
• Further expansion by User:Stemonitis and image addition by User:FunkMonk. Recommend credit for DYKMake to them also. AshLin (talk) 06:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

:Expansion length, date, and all details of both hooks check out. I do vote for the simpler first hook, but either works fine. Nice expansion on an interesting topic. -- Khazar (talk) 02:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Here We Go Again: Celebrating the Genius of Ray Charles

• ... that Willie Nelson, Wynton Marsalis and Norah Jones recorded a live tribute album covering songs of Ray Charles?

Created by GDuwen (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, ref and hook check out. Good to go. Argyle 4 Life 02:26, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Music Beta by Google

• ... that Androids can now play streamed music using Music Beta by Google?

Created by Logan (talk). Nominated by ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) at 04:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• The creation and reference check out, but I'd suggest that instead of "Androids" that "Android devices" or some similar phrase be used. Imzadi 1979 → 07:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• I was being a bit deliberate with the ambiguity there, in the hope of tempting more readers in through sheer blazing curiosity, but if you'd really rather change it, please go ahead. :o) Pesky (talk …stalk!) 06:21, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• The term "androids" implies robots not phones, and since this isn't being nominated for April Fool's Day, that level of deceptive ambiguity isn't exactly appropriate the other 364 days of the year, IMHO. Unfortunately, the news will be very stale by the next AFD for 2012, so I'd change the hook and run it now instead of leaving it and holding it for AFD 2012. Imzadi 1979 → 11:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Ha, I hope that this DYK doesn't get postponed until April Fools' Day 2012. My view - I think that Android devices would be a bit less ambiguous, as Imzadi1979 said. But, then again, I do think that "Androids" is pretty catchy ;) Logan _Talk 01:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Seems OK to me, with the capital 'A' - ie, I don't find it too ambiguous, but reasonably 'tempting'. But if Imzadi1979 or others object, perhaps you could make an alternative suggestion? Cheers,  Chzz  ►  01:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Pain fitzJohn

• ... that the Anglo-Norman administrator Pain fitzJohn (died 1137) was once called a "second-class baron and a first-class civil servant"?

• Reviewed: William F. Raynolds ()

5x expanded by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 00:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Offline hook accepted AGF. The hook kind of gives the impression that he was called that by a contemporary, though. 5x expansion checks out. Nice job. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 11

List of accolades received by Winter's Bone

• ... that among the Winter's Bone awards 20 year-old Jennifer Lawrence was nominated for, her Best Actress Academy Award nomination made her the second youngest nominee ever in that category?

Created by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Kelly Cherry

Woman with short, dark hair facing right and wearing a light colored jacket over a darker shirt.

• ... that Kelly Cherry, author of We Can Still Be Friends, was named the Poet Laureate of Virginia in 2010?

Created by Ijil RHG (talk). Nominated by Patrickneil (talk) at 19:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry; not yet. The prose section contains fewer than 1500 characters. The lists are not included in the count. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
• Also, the picture is missing a copyright tag. —Bruce1ee 11:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Alexi Salamone

• ... that Ukrainian-born Alexi Salamone, a gold medalist for the United States at the 2010 Winter Paralympics, was adopted by a family from Buffalo, New York at the age of six?

• Reviewed: Andreacarus voalavo, Voalavo gymnocaudus ()

Created by Basement12 (talk), Unablemanager (talk). Self nom at 14:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• no problems©Geni 20:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Gandhi Sagar Dam

• ... that construction of the Gandhi Sagar Dam (pictured) in India was initiated when the foundation stone was laid by the then Prime Minister of India Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru on 7 March 1954?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Good article. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Peter Velappan.--Nvvchar. 08:52, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Bride-buying

• ... that bride-buying, a form of marriage of convenience, is an old tradition in India and China that is still practiced today?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:37, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed: Carex riparia . - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:45, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• . Length, date and references verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 09:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Carex riparia

• ... that Carex riparia (pictured), a Eurasian plant up to 130 cm (51 in), is Britain's largest sedge?

• Reviewed: Lacandon Jungle ()

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 20:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, hook, ref seems fine to me. Good to go. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Word count at 1896 /2283 characters. - AnakngAraw (talk) 11:13, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Ghana Immigration Service

• ... that prior to Ghana's independence, the Ghana Immigration Service was known as the Immigration and Passport Unit and was a unit under the Colonial Police Force of the Gold Coast?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 17:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Review KOI-428

National Disaster Management Organization

• ... that in March 2011 Ghana's National Disaster Management Organization announced it would establish five camps in the regions that shared border with the Cote d'Ivoire for refugees?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics ]

Ghana Prisons Service

• ... that in 2007 it was announced that the Ghana Prisons Service would change its name to Correctional Service of Ghana?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• I Reviewed triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics ]

2011 PBA Commissioner's Cup Finals

• ... that basketball players Jimmy Alapag and Jason Castro were named co-Finals MVPs of the 2011 PBA Commissioner's Cup Finals?

• Comment: I dunno if this qualifies as an expansion or as a new article -- the only prose was the two-sentence lead before I expanded it.

5x expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 12:36, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Khun Htun Oo. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 14:51, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Help me -- this does not appear to be a 5x expansion within the requisite time period. Am I missing something? Tx.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:57, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Before expansion: 286 characters of prose --> After expansion: 5,200 characters of prose. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 03:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• I see. I'll let someone else make the call, as its a bit fuzzy to me. May be all well and good. One thing I would suggest is some footnotes for the first three paras of the article, which lack refs. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Leads shouldn't have references. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 06:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics

• ... that competitors in triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics will have to tackle the Serpentine, visit a palace and cycle through Wellington?

• Reviewed: Linwood Pendleton ()

5x expanded by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:19, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook all check out. Ready to go!!! CrossTempleJay  talk 13:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

SS Santa Kyriaki

• ... that over 70,000 cubic yards (54,000 m) of sand was excavated to extricate the Liberian steamship Santa Kyriaki from a beach in the Netherlands?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 08:29, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Old All Saints Church, Nuneham Courtenay. Mjroots (talk) 09:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 09:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

M-134 (Michigan highway)

• ... that M-134 is one of three state highways in Michigan on an island, and one of two to use a ferry (pictured)?

• Reviewed: diff
• Comment: I'm working on getting a photo of the ferry released for usage in the article, and the hook. Photo added and available now. Imzadi 1979 → 07:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Khun Htun Oo

• ... that Khun Htun Oo, a former head of Burma's Shan Nationalities League for Democracy, is now serving a 93-year sentence for treason?

Reviewed:Titanomyrma

newly sourced 2x BLP expansion by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

OK. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 14:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Was it a new article or was it a less than 5x expansion? And the article and ref say 93 years, not 95. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:54, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• This is a BLP article so 2x expansion is sufficient. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 04:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Good catch on the #--miscopied. Fixed now. Cheers Khazar (talk) 07:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Bautzen (1945)

• ... that the Battle of Bautzen was one of the most bloody battles of the Polish Army?

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• If I am using the char count correctly, this should be a 5x expansion. Please ping me on talk if there are any issues. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed #Camp Ashraf massacre

Article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days (1112 days). Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:53, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

May 7 version - 2327 characters (from lead to references)

current version - 10276 characters

Seems close enough for me. What am I missing? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Using the DYK check tool today it is: Prose size (text only): 9690 characters (1553 words) "readable prose size" and in December before the expansion started it was: Prose size (text only): 2107 characters (344 words) "readable prose size" Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I've done more expansion. Has the sufficient size been reached now? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:20, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

The size is now OK but the hook is not what it says in the article According to Polish historian Zbigniew Wawer, this was the most bloody battle that the Polish Army had been involved in since the battle of Bzura in 1939.Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

So? The hook can simplify content of the article. There is a 200 character limit, you know. I don't understand your point. We can make it more clear by adding "in World War II" if you'd like. Or, in fact, we can use most of that sentence - see alt below: --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Alt2: that the Battle of Bautzen in 1945 was the most bloody battle of the Polish Army since the Battle of Bzura in 1939?

Alt 2 OK Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)