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Hi Bio, the reason why I deleted the video was becuase other videos linked to the video seemed to be one-sided analysis of the event (they all seemed to be anti-Israel side), but then I saw the company that did the video and then I thought it was no surprise given the russian gov't position on Israel and the gov't's ownership of the channel. Maybe you can find another video that talk about the event n link to the article?] (]) 21:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC) Hi Bio, the reason why I deleted the video was becuase other videos linked to the video seemed to be one-sided analysis of the event (they all seemed to be anti-Israel side), but then I saw the company that did the video and then I thought it was no surprise given the russian gov't position on Israel and the gov't's ownership of the channel. Maybe you can find another video that talk about the event n link to the article?] (]) 21:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
:There are indeed problems with ''RT'' as far as being a ] for most things involving Israel. Norman Finkelstein is a recurring Mideast "expert" on their shows, for example. But in this case, since the video is only raw footage and doesn't have any voice-over editorializing or anything, it itself can't be considered a biased or unreliable source for how it's being used in the article. And about the links, well that's unfortunate. YouTube is inundated with videos from people and groups who've made it their life's mission to bash Israel. But that can't really be considered as an argument against the video itself.—] (]) 09:31, 8 June 2011 (UTC) :There are indeed problems with ''RT'' as far as being a ] for most things involving Israel. Norman Finkelstein is a recurring Mideast "expert" on their shows, for example. But in this case, since the video is only raw footage and doesn't have any voice-over editorializing or anything, it itself can't be considered a biased or unreliable source for how it's being used in the article. And about the links, well that's unfortunate. YouTube is inundated with videos from people and groups who've made it their life's mission to bash Israel. But that can't really be considered as an argument against the video itself.—] (]) 09:31, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

== B'Tselem ==

], I think my edit summary was 100% clear on the subject. My edits conform to what both Haaretz and NRG say, without resorting to the sort of mealy-mouthed double-talk you wrote. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 05:58, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

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Mairead Corrigan

On the Mairead Corrigan article, you edited a direct quote. Please see the Misplaced Pages manual of style for editing quotes: MOS:QUOTE. Generally, we do not fix the grammar of quotations. —Ute in DC (talk) 10:12, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I should have mentioned that the edit was made in order to correspond with the way the quote appears in the cited reference. The bad grammar was what alerted me to the discrepancy, but I did make sure to check what was in the original source. —Biosketch (talk) 10:18, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

For you

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
Thank you for the clean-up over the last several days. I especially appreciate the fixing of my hangover mistakes Cptnono (talk) 01:03, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I enjoyed reading and learning about the incident, glad to help.—Biosketch (talk) 09:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Vanunu

Thank you for your note. You are right and I was mistaken: Vanunu was born in Morocco and immigrated to Israel as a child. Hope the changes just made are OK. User:Emesz —Preceding undated comment added 00:23, 13 March 2011 (UTC).

Edit warring

Another editor has reported you for breeching the one revert per 24 hours (1/rr) rule that is in place in the Palestinian-Israel conflict topic area. I recommend that you do not continue to revert. I also recommend that you read up on Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles#Further remedies. This 1/rr has been very useful in tempering the edit warring that has been common in the topic area.

I assume you were not aware of this unless you really were just thumbing your nose at the rules. Blocks are meant to be preventative and not punitive so if you express on the edit warring report that the 1/rr issue is now clear and that you won't be violating again then you might be able to avoid a block. The discussion is at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Biosketch reported by User:Supreme Deliciousness (Result: ). Cptnono (talk) 04:47, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

The die is cast, bitch! (I'm only teasing you) I can show you more wikilinks to background sections in FAs related to events (wars, murders, protests, corporate buyouts, whatever), If you want to have fun with it I will end up winning. I will reluctantly crush you for the prize of one week off of the article if you want.
In all seriousness, nice stuff keeping up on the article. You really have been doing good work.Cptnono (talk) 07:44, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
In that case, you'll be delighted to hear that during the month of April I'll be far away from WP for almost three weeks backpacking in Europe. You'll be free to fabricate all the misleading backgrounds you want and corrupt the factual integrity of otherwise credible and decently written articles on the altar of quality scale ratings. From now till then, though, you'll just have to deal with it.
That was just teasing you back, of course.... I've found your input to be invaluable, not to mention that you've saved me from getting into trouble a few times.—Biosketch (talk) 14:39, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Then the bet is invalid! Have fun traveling. Forget saving you from trouble since you seem to be getting a hang of things and contributing just fine.Cptnono (talk) 07:44, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

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Your Strong Reaction

It seems that you have strong reaction towards the edits on Miral and Hind al-Husseini as well as Deir Yassin. I want to inform you that I am happy to collaborate with you any which way that I can on edits. Best, GoetheFromm (talk) 23:54, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

You've been Reported to http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts

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Just want to let you know that I've reported certain elements of your conduct which I believe to be uncivil to http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts. GoetheFromm (talk) 10:19, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Santorini

Thanks for putting up some links on the talk page - I used those to significantly expand the article, and will shortly nominate it for a DYK, naming you as a co-expander, if you have no objection. Tzu Zha Men (talk) 16:11, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate the acknowledgement.—Biosketch (talk) 16:30, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

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Dirar Abu Seesi

I just combined the two paragraphs that list the reasons why Abu Seesi was kidnapped. For the moment, I deleted your addition about Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's comments on why he was kidnapped as not sourced. I know you are working on getting it sourced. When you do, could replace your sourced sentence with the last sentence (Israeli officials were insinuating that Abu Seesi was involved in weaponry for Hamas). Your comment is by the Israeli side, the other sentence just insinuated. Bgwhite (talk) 20:50, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, and I appreciate that you updated me. I edited it very soon after the interview and didn't include the Jerusalem Post source because their translation was flawed and the article had typos. By now, though, Netanyahu's comment is being referenced in numerous places, including a better JPost article: JPost, SFGate (AP), Monsters & Critics, etc. I'm kind of occupied with other things at the moment and won't be back at a computer tomorrow until evening. If no one's incorporated Netanyahu's comment by then, I'll restore the sentence with a solid ref, as I do think the comment (cryptic though it was) is noteworthy.—Biosketch (talk) 21:37, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Judea and Samaria usage

FYI: WP:WESTBANK --ElComandanteChe (talk) 09:15, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

What is this in relation to?—Biosketch (talk) 17:10, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
After seeing this edit (which is absolutely right), I just wanted to make sure you are familiar with the policy. It's no way a warning or attempt to educate you, only a friendly suggestion to take a look at something you might find interesting/useful. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 19:22, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Copy: A reminder of the 1RR restriction

User:Ajnem, please consider that the frequency and nature of your edits at Itamar killings may constitute a violation of the 1RR restriction. While they appear to be in good faith, they are also symptomatic of WP:OWN. Without having warned you first, Administrators are unlikely to take action; so please review Misplaced Pages policy at WP:1RR and in particular keep in mind the following: An editor must not perform more than one revert on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Take this message not as a personal insult but as constructive criticism and endeavor to be more careful in the future.—Biosketch (talk) 18:59, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello Biosketch, don't know what you are referring to. Maybe you want to explain, what it is you object to? Ajnem (talk) 15:04, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
The above from my talk page. Biosketch, please refrain from making accusations you cannot sustain (and from playing administrator). And not anwering my question is not comme il faut at all. In view of the fact that you are very new at Misplaced Pages (or are you?) I asume good faith for the time being, Ajnem (talk) 16:17, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, yes, I'll post the diffs about that at your Talk page presently. And the message wasn't intended to sound like a threat from an Admin or anything but rather, as indicated by the title, a reminder, in the event that you weren't aware of the restriction. As to whether or not I'm very new at Misplaced Pages, that depends of course on how one defines "very new" – but I wouldn't consider myself very new, no.—Biosketch (talk) 16:33, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
No kidding? Ajnem (talk) 09:13, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Are you trying to ask a question?—Biosketch (talk) 20:43, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Not unless you want me to. Cheerio, Ajnem (talk) 16:43, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
If there's something on your mind, spill it.—Biosketch (talk) 18:46, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

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 Chzz  ►  13:23, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Transclusion isn't as horrible as it sounds;

I just made a little test page, User:Biosketch/Test page, which contains "Test page la la la".

If I put, right here, {{User:Biosketch/Test page}}, it will show the contents of it;

Test page la la la

...and if that page changes, then it'll change here too.

You can think of transclusion as 'subroutines' - for adding common text on several pages. They can also do cleverer stuff, with conditional code - like "If I'm being transcluded on user page say THIS, otherwise say THAT". So, they're used for all kinds of things.

I hope that maybe unravels the mystery a little! Cheers,  Chzz  ►  13:42, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Alright, since you've gone to the trouble of trying to explain it to me personally, I'll make more of an effort to understand what it's all about.—Biosketch (talk) 14:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I think, possibly, the easiest way to get your head around it is this;
  • There is a 'magic word' NUMBEROFARTICLES.
  • I write {{subst:NUMBEROFARTICLES}} at the end of this sentence, it will record the number of articles when I hit save: 3,605,601
  • But If I write, at the end of this sentence, {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}, it will show the number when this page was last looked at: 6,937,431

Hence, the second number will change regularly - but the first will never change.

The same applies to subst'ing and transcluding a page.

  • At the time of my writing this, the page User:Chzz/transtest contains the word "sausage" (in green) - so, if I put {{subst:User:Chzz/transtest}} at the end of this sentence, it will put that content on this page, forever: Sausage
  • But if I put {{User:Chzz/transtest}}, it could change - and in a few moments, I will edit and change that page: Elephants

I hope that helps! Cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:42, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Is it correct to say that curly brackets are used to substitute or transclude information? So if I understand correctly, the difference between substitution and transclusion is that the former is fixed whereas the latter is dynamic. The information stored at Template:! is the pipe symbol. Now, by using curly brackets without the subst prefix, it becomes a transclusion instruction: if someone changes the information stored at Template:! from, say, a pipe symbol to a semicolon, then anywhere that {{!}} is found, what will appear is a semicolon. But if {{subst:!}} is used, then it will continue to show the pipe even after the template is modified, provided the {{subst:!}} command was saved before the template was modified. (I'm still not at the level of understanding what happened at Talk:Geddy Lee, but did am I getting the rest right?)—Biosketch (talk) 12:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that is absolutely correct.
And, templates can transclude other templates or pages.
On the talk page Talk:Geddy Lee, there are various templates. One is {{WPBiography}}, which makes the box that says, This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography.... It also transcludes a subpage - Talk:Geddy Lee/Comments, which it shows within a collapsed table, like this;
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Gershon Eliezer Weinrib has never been Geddy's legal name

In this video, at timestamp 9:30 or so, Geddy states very clearly that "Gary Lee Weinrib" is the name on his birth certificate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMUaFy-bJSs

Gershon Eliezer Weinrib was a cultural name, and is the source of his legal name. But it has never actually been his legal name at any point in his life. His legal name was "Gary" up until he himself had it legally changed to "Geddy".

Ξxtreme Unction 19:06, 29 December 2023 (UTC)


Before I edited the subpage (here), it contained a == Heading ==
The table of contents (TOC) always appears just before the first == heading == on a page.
Therefore, the TOC was being displayed inside that hidden ('collapsed') part of the page.  Chzz  ►  19:32, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Santorini (ship)

Updated DYK queryOn 11 April 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Santorini (ship), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the crew of the Santorini tried and failed to smuggle weapons, hidden inside barrels, into the Gaza Strip three times, before being caught on their fourth attempt? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Lucy Aharish

Updated DYK queryOn 19 April 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lucy Aharish, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 2007 Lucy Aharish became the first Arab to present the news on mainstream Israeli television? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for this article Victuallers (talk) 00:04, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Mairead Corrigan

You are absolutely right Mairead Corrigan deserves a better class than start. My apologies for being way too quick. You have done a fabulous job on this remarkable lady. I have fixed it to a B class, which is the highest available without peer review. Thank you for bringing this to my attention to fix! --Tbennert (talk) 18:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

No need to apologize – on the contrary, I'm grateful to you for assessing the article in the first place. And I appreciate that you considered my comments and reevaluated the assessment.—Biosketch (talk) 19:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your edits, which I found today in random wandering... thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks very much.—Biosketch (talk) 08:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Golan Heights

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Re: Invitation to comment

Will take a look in a bit, as I'm a little busy at the moment, but the first two edits look like they happened one after the other? Consecutive reverts count as a single revert, just FYI. ← George 22:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

No rush. It's way past my bedtime – not to mention that I basically vowed to myself to make only one batch of edits per day. But things are deteriorating in the I/P area, so there's a certain sense urgency to consider.—Biosketch (talk) 22:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Zenga Zenga!

Thanks for the heads up. If the story on Amir Benayoun develops more, I'll create an article on those songs/album. If not, I'll try to find the time to make a page for Amir himself. Much appreciated for the info. Plot Spoiler (talk) 17:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

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Hi

Hi Biosketch, I saw your posts at AGK's talk page. Have you heard about my hacker ordeal? When I decided to end the game I played with the hacker, and to change my password, it was really hard for me to do so. It almost looked as somebody from the other site is preventing me from doing so. My gmail account went absolutely crazy. I am not sure if you're having the same issues. BTW there is button that is named "details" Look for the text:

Visit settings to save time with keyboard shortcuts! You are currently using 0 MB (0 %) of your 7588 MB. Last account activity: 1 hour ago at this IP (--------). Details

I replaced my IP with -------, but just by looking at this line you could see, if somebody with a different IP entered your account. Then click that "Detail" button, and it will give you the full report of the stupid and criminal hackers activities if your account was hacked. The hacker IP will be in the red color and in the first line/lines of the report. Please feel free to ask me more questions. Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Also you can enter your account with two steps verification using your Cellphone

settings->accounts->Other Google Account settings->Using 2-step verification--Shrike (talk) 07:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both for the suggestions.—Biosketch (talk) 03:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

naska day

Hi Bio, the reason why I deleted the video was becuase other videos linked to the video seemed to be one-sided analysis of the event (they all seemed to be anti-Israel side), but then I saw the company that did the video and then I thought it was no surprise given the russian gov't position on Israel and the gov't's ownership of the channel. Maybe you can find another video that talk about the event n link to the article?Festermunk (talk) 21:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

There are indeed problems with RT as far as being a WP:RS for most things involving Israel. Norman Finkelstein is a recurring Mideast "expert" on their shows, for example. But in this case, since the video is only raw footage and doesn't have any voice-over editorializing or anything, it itself can't be considered a biased or unreliable source for how it's being used in the article. And about the links, well that's unfortunate. YouTube is inundated with videos from people and groups who've made it their life's mission to bash Israel. But that can't really be considered as an argument against the video itself.—Biosketch (talk) 09:31, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

B'Tselem

User:Biosketch, I think my edit summary was 100% clear on the subject. My edits conform to what both Haaretz and NRG say, without resorting to the sort of mealy-mouthed double-talk you wrote. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 05:58, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

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