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Project overtagging?

I wonder if you might be overtagging the Stars in astrology article by adding it to the agriculture project and history of science project. In any case, from my perspective, since you are not a member of those projects it seems presumptuous to add anything. It may be more constructive and less disruptive to use categories to improve how the article is organized into the project. Jojalozzo 15:29, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

No it should not be project overtagging, since the study of the cycles of the stars in ancient times is the basis on which astronomy grew from. And the cycles were studied to determine the correct time to plant. So, it would fall under history of science, astronomy and farming. 65.93.15.213 (talk) 05:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps, but consider that it is a very minor article with very few other articles linking in to it. I am sure the stars were also used for navigation in ancient times (and still), so should we then also add it to the Projects that deals with navigation? The Project Ships and Project Transport among others? Birds also navigate by the stars, so let's add Project Birds..

Where will it stop?

The imperfect rule of thumb is to go to the main article(s) related to the WikiProject and check what LinksHere. If an article is not linking to it then it is probably not under the scope of the Project. Of course that can change if an article gets more developped. MakeSense64 (talk) 06:01, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

This specific article covers the relationship between the stars and the equinox and solstices, which I would think, is where astronomy and astrology meet. And it deals with it in a historical context. I do see the point you're getting at. And that's why I only added these particular tags, instead of all possible WPPs. 65.93.15.213 (talk) 06:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

The specific article also mentions 'medieval', 'Persians', 'kabbalistic', and so on..

It is a minor article, so it should only be put under the Project that directly covers it, in this case that is clearly 'Astrology', as we can see from the page title already.

Why don't you let the members of these various Projects decide which articles they want to take under their scope? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MakeSense64 (talk • contribs) 06:18, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

So, you're saying, don't ever add any WikiProject banner? 65.93.15.213 (talk) 06:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

At the least, please ask on the project talk page first. Jojalozzo 11:58, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Where did you see me say that you should never add any WikiProject template?

A few things puzzle me, maybe you can clarify.

When I was checking out your history to understand what is going on I clicked on about 3 other Talk pages you had edited and in two cases you were adding WikiProject templates to articles that are just in AfD procedure. Is this a coincidence (AfD are not that common) , or is it a subtle attempt to influence AfD discussions by quickly putting these articles under one or more Project?

Several days ago you added Algol to WikiProject Astrology, without leaving an edit summary about it. This was very convenient for two editors who were just arguing the case that a large astrology section should be added into an astronomy article. You also seem to announce that change here and next an editor thanked you for adding it to WikiProject Astrology and they went on to use the 'new scope' in further discussion on Talk:Algol. Only then I noticed this new 'addition', but how did these other editors know so quickly about it? You also encouraged them to add more WikiProject Astrology templates to a lot of star pages.

In the Algol discussion another editor suggested that astrology of Algol should be put in Stars in astrology, and somehow one of your next edits was adding several WikiProject templates to Stars in astrology, one of them Astronomy Project. Was this also meant to be convenient for the arguments of these editors, or is there no connection? All mere coincidences?

You will probably understand why this activity looks puzzling to me. Your comment would be appreciated. MakeSense64 (talk) 13:11, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries

I don't want to pile on but I noticed you rarely provide an edit summary with your edits. It improves collaboration on the project if you let your colleagues know what and why you are making edits and the edit summary is one of the only ways you can communicate that. Thanks for all your work here, Jojalozzo 15:38, 11 July 2011 (UTC)