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Eisner nomination correction

Nat -- thanks for the note on your Eisner nomination -- that's fixed now. Kenllama/(talk) 02:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

T:Ssm

Thx. Ur right. I fixed it Anarchangel (talk) 11:50, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

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Fred Karger

My since apologies. I have made the appropriate corrections in the article. I also apologize for my comment, and my failure to pay attention to the appropriate section. Thank you so much for pointing out my mistake, and for being so civil. --Jo (talk) 04:03, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your sincere and responsible apology. We're good. --Nat Gertler (talk) 04:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mr Gertler. I have read about you, and I see that you are involved in the medial industry. If you don't mind, may I please ask you a question about the media industry? I am interested in that business, and I just had a question. Thank you so much. --Jo (talk) 04:53, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

History of LGBT rights opposition

The first link is about "Buy viagra canada"??? And the article on the SPLC-Website clearly states, that homosexuals were persecuted, but that there was NOT a death penalty for homosexuality. Kreuzkümmel (talk) 18:42, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Response at Talk:LGBT rights opposition, since that's part of the article discussion. --Nat Gertler (talk) 19:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Historic Boystown Designation

hello, my name is Nat as well and the reason my username is blockpartyweho is not because i AM larry block, its because i do all of the web design for historic boystown. i have NO affiliation with block party or the brand. i am just a web designer for the good of the community. i chose the name blockpartyweho b/c boystown and historicboystown was taken, so i chose the closest thing to this particular cause. i made NO money from this project...i did it for the goodness of a community movement.

the reason larry block's name appears so often in my article is not because i am "promoting" him but because HE is the ONLY person who began this movement in weho...HE spoke up at a city council meeting, HE organized a sponsorship committee between MANY local businesses (so it's not just block party) its also, micky's club, club eleven, yogurt stop, etc. MANY businesses are for the designation of historic boystown but HE is the one who originated the movement and discussed it at city hall. so just as you would say MLK was an advocate for the civil rights movement...larry block is an advocate for the designation for historic boystown in weho. he just wants the city to recognize a place where MANY call home and feel accepted for whoever they are, myself included. so yes, i know larry block through designing his website but i do not intend to "promote" him or his store...i intended to promote historic boystown and yes he is a HUGE part of that so his name will have to be mentioned. it didnt just come up in a city hall meeting one day. i was at the actual meeting where he first spoke of it and then i talked afterward with him and volunteered my services of designing the website.

i guess i dont understand the big deal about having a couple of paragraphs on a universal website...what's the harm here? i am not linking his business page nor a did i even mention the name of it. i said "a local store owner" this is not for promotional purposes, it is to designate boystown for individuals who want a place to call their own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blockpartyweho (talk • contribs) 18:28, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Double marriage?

Is there such a thing as a marriage which involves two men marrying two women? sort of like a team marriage in a way that 4 people are in one marriage. Does such a thing exist? Its sort of like an open marriage, except limited to four people. Pass a Method talk 20:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't know of any form of marriage that is specifically 4 people, but I'm not an expert in experimental or alternative forms of marriage. What you should be looking toward is not open marriage - marriage which does not exclude outside sexual activity - but group marriage, where more than two people are in the marriage itself. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that link Pass a Method talk 05:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

2011 end times prediction

Thanks for the kind words. You've been doing good stuff yourself, particularly staying on top of the Talk page. We are going to have our hands full with that article over the next week or so; did you see it got over 50,000 hits yesterday? (85,000 today) Thank goodness it's been semi-protected! Unfortunately, I will be offline on Saturday/Sunday when the Great Anticlimax occurs, so I won't be able to help create the Aftermath section. --MelanieN (talk) 16:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations!

You really have been doing some great editing recently on the 2011 end times malarkey. Carry on keeping it all together tomorrow, It's already the 21st (GMT) here in London :) Gareth E Kegg (talk) 23:17, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and you've been doing some useful edits yourself. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'll be able to take the time needed to ride on this page the way that it needs over the weekend. I have a life, alas. But I hope that any editors that remain earthbound at the time will chip in effort! --Nat Gertler (talk) 23:23, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

NAFAS

Hi Nat

Thanks for the warning note.

If the existing article on NAFAS had come up when I searched for it, I would not have wasted my time writing another. There must be something wrong with the search engine. There was not the slightest trace of any article on NAFAS when I tried to search for it. Absolutely zero. The only probelm now is that I have linked a couple of articles to the NAFAS article I created. And I will take a look at the other NAFAS article to see if there is material I can salvage from the stub I created last night. Best wishes -- Robert of Ramsor (talk) 09:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

• • I now see what I've done - confused Arranging and Arrangement. Which the search engine still didn't warn me about when I looked at other articles on Wiki with references to NAFAS. For exxample, the one on Judith Blacklock, editor of The FLower Arranger Magazine. Not sure what went wrong, but my typo didn't help. -- Robert of Ramsor (talk) 09:26, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Usergate Mail Server

just to let you know I removed your prod tag on Usergate Mail Server because the author of the article had already disputed a prod attempt. I put it up for AfD - Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Usergate Mail Server Kevin (talk) 05:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Center for American Values

NatGertler... I am VERY new to the wikipedia group, as far as contributing with actual information. I have donated several hundred dollars over the course of the last few years and continue to support by purchasing database updates with my iOS devices. I understand the importance of keeping the Misplaced Pages free of liter. One thing I am concerned about is that you don't realize that I actually wrote the content you deleted. I built the site that it originated from and am the acting CTO of the very organization it was generated for. On direct request of Medal of Honor recipient, Drew Dix, that article was prepared and delivered for the Congressional Medal of Honor Society and the Center for American Values. He is the co-founder of the non profit organization the Center for American Values. Given that the article content was in it's infancy, and that I don't have an offline editor of sorts to prepare my submission, I am perplexed and concerned at the rapid rate and condescending removal of it.

I would say that I changed a lot of verbiage that seemed bias from the original content on the website. It was drained of the American Superiority complex that oozed from the original content I posted on the CAV's original website.

Please... I beg of you... maybe a discussion prior to instant death of content would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwilliam13 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Cassone

No idea if I am in the right place - can't find any other means of contacting you. Why do you want to remove the entry on Cassone: The International Online Magazine of Art and Art Booka? Misplaced Pages carries a long list of art magazines and most have their own entry - why not this one? A recent google search on the term 'Cassone' put it fourth item down on the first page. It is the first purely online art magazine ever launched in Britain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artemisia24 (talk • contribs) 06:58, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

ctypes = why axe it?

Hi,

Why do you wish to delete the Ctypes page? I see it refers to two different things, what's wrong about it?

Thanks Bazuz (talk) 23:49, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

As it says in WP:D, "Disambiguation in Misplaced Pages is the process of resolving the conflicts that arise when a single term is ambiguous—when it refers to more than one topic covered by Misplaced Pages articles" Only one of the two items you disambiguate is covered by a Misplaced Pages article, hence no need for a disambiguation page. --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Laila Takla

Thanks for giving the article on Laila Takla a nice tidy up :) Jolly good! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel De Mol (talk • contribs) 02:11, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Your comment at Opponents of SSM

Perhaps I'm being obtuse, but what did you mean in your last comment here? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 04:27, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Given the editing history and tendencies, I would not be surprised to find Lionelt objecting that something you added used the fringe of the anti-SSM crowd to paint the whole crowd negatively (not saying he would be right, just saying it wouldn't be surprising). To see you trying to protect the rep of the anti-SSM crowd from Lionel's edit (you do realize it was he who added the gallery, don't you?) is more unexpected. --Nat Gertler (talk) 05:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I saw that he'd added photo 1, but didn't realize he'd added the others less recently. Anyway, I think all three photos depict people who are loopy, but that's my opinion - there would seem to be an issue of undue weight with two of the three photos being what they were, but as you point out, the fringe presumably doesn't think it's the fringe, so let's wait to hear from other editors. (Also, as I may have forgot to mention, MOS discourages unnecessary galleries - illustrations should be interspersed throughout the article.) Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

He added the entire gallery to the page in this edit. And note that my counter to your objections was merely on the "fringe" part of "lunatic fringe"; on the other part, no comment. :) --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Island Monkey 15:08, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikinic

Hello! The Los Angeles Wikinic is fast approaching, and we need intrepid volunteers to bring supplies and whatnot. I've posted a little info and a sign-up sheet at Misplaced Pages:Meetup/LA/4 so please let me confirm your attendance and sign up to bring something. Thanks! howcheng {chat} 23:48, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Why the article was deleted

You said:

This page is made up almost entirely of the material from http://www.excelwithbusiness.com/Tests.aspx and http://www.excelwithbusiness.com/Tests/WhatistheExcelIQscore.aspx --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC) I am the copyright holderVinitpatel87

While I have no reason to disbelieve you, our procedures allow anyone to register with that name (plus, I do not see a notice identifying you as the copyright holder.)

Not to worry, this happens all the time, and there is a procedure to ensure that you are who you say you are and you have the authority to license the material for use by Misplaced Pages.

See Donating copyrighted materials

I have deleted the article, but there is no problem reproducing it, if proper permission is received (this is not an opinion on whether the article is otherwise acceptable). --SPhilbrickT 15:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

You done gots things backwardsified! I'm the guy who called for the deletion, not the author of the article. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:50, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

(ec):oops, my bad, this isn't directed at you. But I see the original editor has made some changes, so it's now not so clear; I'll let you think through the notability issues.--SPhilbrickT 15:51, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Somebody else beat me to it. Life moves pretty fast! --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

My share

Re this: I reverted once. Shouldn't I get a cut of the proceeds? Rivertorch (talk) 05:42, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't leave my name in the comment; we'll leave it up to each problem editor to figure out who "me" is for them - it might be you! --Nat Gertler (talk) 06:10, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

God Hates Figs

I'm sorry, but this "article" still completely fails the threshold of WP:NOTABILITY. If you continue to bring it back, it will go to WP:AFD, and you might also find your user account BANNED as well. WTF? (talk) 02:39, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Responded to poster here.

Fine. Have it your way then. Nommed for deletion. WTF? (talk) 04:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, I do recognize the difference between a "newbie" and a "vandal", and can smell a page that really isn't encyclopedic quite well. I do try to help bonafide newbies in a friendly manner; but I still have a low tolerance for vandals.

I'm going to disagree that God hates figs is well-sourced -- while some of the sources are notable, most are either single sentence descriptions with a photo, or descriptions of the counter-protests that mention your poster in a sentence or two, so they really can't be said to back up the whole God hates figs argument. I will give it to you that the article is formatted and wikified, but then again, it's quite easy to polish a turd,. . . This whole thing would be best summarized if we could (a) find a free image of it, upload it, and attach it to the WBC article, and (b) summarize what you have in 1-2 sentences in the counter protests section, preferably using the NBC and Deseret News articles you've already provided. That would be a much better and more efficient use of space than a separate vanity article on the topic. WTF? (talk) 18:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

'Well, I do recognize the difference between a "newbie" and a "vandal"' - I have trouble believing that, given that in this case, you didn't notice the difference between an editor with considerably more experience than you and a vandal. You are in a variety of ways coming across as someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. I frankly recommend that you go and review some of the key guidelines and policies of Misplaced Pages, including WP:RS, WP:3RR, and WP:CIV. You also seem to be spending a fair amount of effort addressing what you assume rather than what is actually there (and this note where you say you're going to disagree that the article was "well-sourced" when all I said was that it was "sourced" is an example; describing this as a "vanity article" makes it look like you believe I had something to do with God hates figs beyond writing a Misplaced Pages article on it, which is not the case.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 19:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

A dollar

Many thanks. I shall strive to spend it wisely. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

New article help

I've been editing for a while, but am now building a new article. The subject is an organization for which I am a board member, hence I want an uninvolved editor or two to review before moving it. I've respected your work on articles related to Proposition 8, and looking at your user page you seem to be geek-literate as well. If you have time, could you take a look at my sandbox and share your thoughts (perhaps in the talk page there)? I'd appreciate it much. Uberhill 00:18, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of Terrestrial Fibre Optic Cable Projects in Africa

The article List of Terrestrial Fibre Optic Cable Projects in Africa has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unreferenced, laundry list of external links with no clear purpose

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Discussion at Talk:Ex-gay movement

As you took part in the discussion at Talk:Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays, I would like to notify you of a similar discussion you may be interested in participating in at Talk:Ex-gay movement#Lead creep. --~Knowzilla 15:05, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Same Sex Opponents

If he is anti same sex marriage (as he claims on his user page), why did User:NYyankees51 removed entries from the article without a discussion? Seems like vandalism to me!--XLR8TION (talk) 01:49, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

• You can have a view on the topic, but WHY DID USER DELETE ENTRIES??? That's vandalism, plain and simple. Not even an iota of dialogue on the article discussion page. Just delete - blank - poof! Vandalism, plain and simple.--XLR8TION (talk) 02:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)