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:: It's worth pointing out that ''this entire thing'' has been one other user in various guises - that user is himself banned from Misplaced Pages for threatening to kill an Australian federal member of parliament, something which made the national papers over here, and not someone that anyone should be giving the time of day to, much less enabling. Your ''first'' intervention in this case was in support of that user, so you can hardly claim ignorance. In the initial stages I thought it had been an MO of setting up a new account to "raise a concern" with you which you could then act upon with a main account, but when someone else pointed me to the Ultimo55 and ultimately Enidblyton11 accounts, an alternative narrative of a psychotic troll coming back for more actually made more sense. My ability to research the situation was sorely limited by having been traffic shaped by my ISP (a common situation in Australian when one downloads over the limit one has paid for), otherwise I may well have come to the same conclusion on my own. ] 12:00, 31 July 2011 (UTC) :: It's worth pointing out that ''this entire thing'' has been one other user in various guises - that user is himself banned from Misplaced Pages for threatening to kill an Australian federal member of parliament, something which made the national papers over here, and not someone that anyone should be giving the time of day to, much less enabling. Your ''first'' intervention in this case was in support of that user, so you can hardly claim ignorance. In the initial stages I thought it had been an MO of setting up a new account to "raise a concern" with you which you could then act upon with a main account, but when someone else pointed me to the Ultimo55 and ultimately Enidblyton11 accounts, an alternative narrative of a psychotic troll coming back for more actually made more sense. My ability to research the situation was sorely limited by having been traffic shaped by my ISP (a common situation in Australian when one downloads over the limit one has paid for), otherwise I may well have come to the same conclusion on my own. ] 12:00, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
::: i wouldn't go as far as harrassment, but the optics are awful. when you have deletions of uploaded images, it looks like selective enforcement & wolf pack. far better to go to a third party admin to coach the editor; after all he is showing good faith. while i'm not a fan of tip toe up to the line, he does make a point: now that the can of worms of editing political speech on user pages is open, what are the guidelines for how much and how formatted? what is extensive? are extensive referenced quotes allowed? are quotes from article talk; deletion discussions? etc. could it be ok as an essay? a consensus would just look better. i am having a hard time understanding why all the wiki energy is expended on user space rather than article space. <font face="Vivaldi">]</font>:] 17:26, 31 July 2011 (UTC) ::: i wouldn't go as far as harrassment, but the optics are awful. when you have deletions of uploaded images, it looks like selective enforcement & wolf pack. far better to go to a third party admin to coach the editor; after all he is showing good faith. while i'm not a fan of tip toe up to the line, he does make a point: now that the can of worms of editing political speech on user pages is open, what are the guidelines for how much and how formatted? what is extensive? are extensive referenced quotes allowed? are quotes from article talk; deletion discussions? etc. could it be ok as an essay? a consensus would just look better. i am having a hard time understanding why all the wiki energy is expended on user space rather than article space. <font face="Vivaldi">]</font>:] 17:26, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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A bowl of strawberries for you!

Since this is the closest thing that a Gorilla will eat, I guess this will suffice. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:54, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

THANKS

Thanks for the resources and for the great session in Boston! I really enjoyed meeting you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.157.102.170 (talk) 20:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Open Workshop on Advanced Misplaced Pages Editing

I made a start on the message to send to the attendees; User:Chzz/gw  Chzz  ►  22:35, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

I expanded upon what you had and spammed it out to the list of users. I'm sure if you want to make any changes, though, you should have plenty of time. A lot of those users may not necessarily check their talk page for a while. Thanks! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:12, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

hi!

Hi - I met you at the summit this weekend, and am just leaving comments on talk for everyone I met for future communication. Kevin (talk) 17:19, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello! :] – GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:15, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Spelling

Hi -- it was great to meet you, and I'm very glad I was able to introduce my daughter to you. (She was impressed.) If you're curious, the list of twenty words that are very difficult to spell can be found here; if you'd like to test yourself, of course, you'll need to get someone to read them out to you, so don't click on the link! As I recall these were published in Omni in about 1979, and the rubric said 8 or more correct was what was expected from someone with a degree in English; an English professor would be expected to get 16-20. Average adult American score was 0-2, I believe. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad I somehow managed to impress your daughter, haha! If she decides to edit, feel free to send her my way. Then again, with an experienced Wikipedian like you in residence, she probably wouldn't need much from me! Thank you for the link to the spelling words! I haven't clicked the link yet, because I plan on having somebody test me on them. I'll let you know how I do, heh!
It was great meeting you at the Summit, and I really hope I see you around (Wikimania 2012, perhaps?) – GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:15, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Great to meet you as well, GW. Good luck with all future endeavors and don't beat yourself up about "not being a content contributor". Protonk (talk) 18:06, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
And you as well, Prontonk! FWIW, I don't beat myself up about it; Ed handles the beatings for me. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
You got that right. Ed  07:05, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Musicals

Hi. I see you've done some editing on the Spider-Man musical. If you like musicals, please consider joining the WP:MUSICALS project. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

After the war a medal and maybe a job

Hi, when temporarily uploading images here from Commons for use on the main page, such as File:After the war a medal and maybe a job2.jpg today, is it usual to upload a reduced-size version? The version on Commons is 5,042 × 3,355 pixels, but the version temporarily uploaded here is only 800 × 532 pixels. It seems like that would reduce main page visitors' ability to enjoy the image in its full glory, though of course it makes the loading time for the main page faster. I guess I just wanted to confirm that the lower-res version was uploaded on purpose, not by accident. Angr (talk) 06:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I took the liberty of uploading the larger version from the Commons. Ed  06:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
...that is, as soon as the edit goes through. Ed  06:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Oops, that was a mistake on my part. Thank you, Ed, for fixing it! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 11:20, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

User:GorillaWarfare/Deleted

Is User:GorillaWarfare/Deleted a subpage of yours, or is there a user by that name? It appears to be talking to a user by that name. Atterion(Talk|Contribs) 16:05, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

To me it looks like a template she intends to use to notify people whose articles she speedies. I guess this makes me a talkpage stalker.Kevin (talk) 18:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Kevin's right. It's a template I use for notifying people when I speedy delete their articles. I don't believe it's possible to create user accounts with slashes in them for this very reason. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:44, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
That makes a lot of since. I should have payed attention! I also checked the history, and noticed you'd edited it, but I didn't understand it.

Atterion(Talk|Contribs) 17:56, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello there

Hello GorillaWarfare, It was nice to meet you in Boston, and I must say I'm impressed with what you've accomplished in a relatively short time. I also find the disguise you've mentioned on other talk pages to be impressive and convincing. I look forward to working with you and so many others I met in Boston to help expand Misplaced Pages in Higher Education. Cullen328 (talk) 19:38, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I enjoyed meeting you as well! I hope the trip home went well. I hope to see you around, both on-wiki and off, and I'm glad to see my disguise is intact... – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:45, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
If you want to know about the frightening experience we had coming home, take a look at "Mrs. Cullen" on the Drmies talk page. Cullen328 (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Oh my goodness, that's terrifying! I hope you were buckled in and all! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:05, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Everyone was buckled in except the Chinese woman who banged her head, and another woman who rode it out in the restroom. My eyeglasses were in my shirt pocket, but the jolt was so intense that they flew out of my pocket and landed between my wife and I. The woman sitting next to my wife had her shoes off and one of her shoes flew to some unknown spot. My wife saw a laptop levitate, but my eyes were drawn to books flying through the air. Cullen328 (talk) 21:42, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
That's unbelievable! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
And some guy coming from Georgia Southern university had the flaps fail on his flight into boston. They ended up circling logan for an hour or so to burn fuel and landed hot. Next wikipedia conference I'm taking the train. Protonk (talk) 00:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Jeez, must have been a long hour... Then again, I just read in the paper this morning that a truck crashed into the same train that I took the day after I was on it. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:26, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
O_O Ed  07:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages: We pay to bring you there, but you might not actually arrive in one piece. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:26, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Photos on Commons

Hello GW, The Signpost has a nice writeup about our clambake in Boston. There is a link to a series of photos on Commons, including 3 of you. Wish I had the time for the Advanced Editing session, but I haven't yet figured out how to be in two places at once. Cullen328 (talk) 07:00, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Hey Gorilla, did you see I was having a fat day when they took those pictures? Please spread the word that I'm actually stunningly handsome, please. And thin. But not in need of "natural help"! (website below) At all! Drmies (talk) 04:19, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I saw with my own eyes. Kind of like Rock Hudson at his prime, or maybe a rock star, or perhaps us "middle aged" guys have rocks in our heads. Anyway, rocks are involved somehow. Cullen328 (talk) 04:52, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I must say, attending the Summit has made my talk page exponentially more comical. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Penis enlargement

Hey, that happened to be a very useful link. What's the matter with you, Gorilla--feeling inadequate? Jealous? Lots of people might benefit from that site, and you're denying them thick, huge c***s. Drmies (talk) 01:02, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

<3 – GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:03, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for making me spit out my water, Drmies. Now I have to clean it up. Side note: nice navbar, Gorilla. It looks familiar. Ed  06:12, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I don't know, Ed, yours was looking awfully similar to mine for a bit there... Oh, wait. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:42, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I hope Ed's doesn't look like mine. Wait--what is this navbar we're talking about? Drmies (talk) 01:35, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Mine's bigger. Oh, and about the navbar, scroll to the top of the page for the user/talk/contribs/email/sandbox/OA links. Ed  06:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

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Ninja Kiwi

I accidentally created a page called Ninja Kiwi, which I tagged for deletion as patent nonsense. I was meaning to redirect it to Bloons TD, because they are who made the game, but when I went to use the restroom, my brother got on the computer and secretly typed the current text on it in and saved it as copyright infringement. What do I do? I need urgent help. Atterion(Talk|Contribs) 18:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

It has already been deleted by another administrator. I should point out, however, that your brother's use of your account is extremely unwise. I understand that you did not intentionally allow him onto the account, but shared accounts (which is what was happening there) is disallowed. It also could be considered a compromised account, which is a blockable issue. You need to secure your account better, perhaps by logging off when your brother is around to make edits such as these. You may also want to see WP:BROTHER. Although you are not blocked, that page will give you an idea of how the community reacts to situations such as these. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Time to start some article writing

I thought of you; look at the reference I added here. Now get to work! Drmies (talk) 05:00, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I've been doing a little! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:47, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

More words

Given your word expertise I thought you (and perhaps some of your TPSs) might be interested in this, which appears to be a research project that gives an interesting measurement of your vocabulary. I tried it; I began to get into trouble at "epigone". Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

There are a few things I like about that. Firstly, it contains one of my favorite words: "abscond". Secondly, it contains both "portmanteau" and "malapropism". If you don't understand why that's amusing, you are missing out.GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:17, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Rollback

I am not a rollbacker, but would like to be. As you can see here, I did not succeed in becoming one. But what I am wondering is why I am seeing the rollback button in user's contributions, page histories, and revisions when I am not a rollbacker. Atterion TalkContribs 13:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

That would be because you're using Twinkle, which has a function that mimics rollback. See Misplaced Pages:Twinkle/doc#Revert and rollback. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:45, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Request for user page protection

Hello GW, I was curious about something. My user page has only been vandalized once, but I'm wondering if it could be semi-protected. The reason for this is that I have caused some users to get mad at me for reverting their edits that were unconstructive, or did not need to be done, or whatever, (as you can see here) and my user page could be a target of vandalism from users like that. Also there are other reasons I want my user page semi-protected. The reason I did not request this at RFPP is because some random admins that are not familiar with me might not understand why or whatever. Plus, I've already recently made two requests there. I thought it would be better to ask an admin I'd talked to before. Anyway I'm wondering if an indefinite semi could be done to my user page. Atterion TalkContribs 22:42, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Pages are not protected preemptively. One instance of vandalism does not convince me that your user page needs to be protected, so I wouldn't worry too much. If it becomes an issue, you can always request it. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:50, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Deleting Epic Meal Time Edit

Hello. I know I can't exactly provide total and specific evidence that there are sexual undertones in Epic Meal Time, but believe me, I wasn't just writing my opinion, if you watch Epic Meal Time, you will see what I mean. Sorry if I wasn't able to provide a written source for that information.

-Kalinga01

I do watch Epic Meal Time, and I understand what you're saying, but that's still an observation that you are making about the show and, as such, considered original research. WP:OR states: "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation." – GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:44, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

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Timeshift9 has relaunched his community-deleted political blog

Dear GorillaWarfare, you were involved in this deletion. Timeshift9 has relaunched his community-deleted political blog on his user page.

The 22nd May deletion decision: Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Timeshift9

13th of June deletion review. The May deletion was confirmed: Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2011 June 5

On the of 23rd July, Timeshift9 relaunches his political blog: User:Timeshift9

Thank you, Seashells52 (talk) 04:15, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
You are an awesome friend, so I'm giving you this Barnstar! Hello, I'm a Wikipedian! (talk) 14:54, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:11, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Trout

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

--Hello, I'm a Wikipedian! (talk) 15:29, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Sustained harassment and wikihounding of User:Timeshift9

I am of the view that you have chronically overstepped in this case by being an enabler for sockpuppets waging an outside political campaign against this user. If there really is an issue, there are hundreds of other admins without a history in this that can manage it. Consider this a warning that dispute resolution will be initiated against you, with a case made to ArbCom that your behaviour is contrary to that expected of a Misplaced Pages administrator, if any further enabling or harassment occurs. Orderinchaos 02:02, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Seashells52 has been blocked as a sockpuppet, yes. I did not immediately recognize him/her as a sock purely because I'm not familiar with the sockmaster. Although I agree that the user's edit history is very unusual, it's not something I saw as disruptive because, like I said, I was unaware of the sockmaster. I'm not really sure what you were going for when you opened an SPI case against me, either. Generally the SPI case would be opened with regards to Seashells52 and not myself, as I've not, to my knowledge, shown any evidence of socking. You say "There is no evidence beyond conduct.", but I don't believe any of my conduct has supported me being a sock. What is it that makes you think I am?
As for my block log, which I noticed you brought up in the SPI case, I sockblocked myself once when trying to block another user. It was a mistaken self-block, not some legitimate sockblock that I overturned myself. Anyway, I am a bit taken aback that you opened an SPI case without so much as notifying me.
In regards to Timeshift, I will reply on his user talk. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
FTR, I didn't bring up your block log (one of the other admins replying to me did) - I didn't check it, or know of its existence, and had I done so, it wouldn't have led me to the view I had. It just seems to me that you've been on a three-month campaign against a productive user trying to drive him into retirement, jumping on any bandwagon that rolls in that direction, and I don't see the point - it's very saddening to see someone who I'd until relatively recently respected as a fellow editor and admin act in such a manner.
It's worth pointing out that this entire thing has been one other user in various guises - that user is himself banned from Misplaced Pages for threatening to kill an Australian federal member of parliament, something which made the national papers over here, and not someone that anyone should be giving the time of day to, much less enabling. Your first intervention in this case was in support of that user, so you can hardly claim ignorance. In the initial stages I thought it had been an MO of setting up a new account to "raise a concern" with you which you could then act upon with a main account, but when someone else pointed me to the Ultimo55 and ultimately Enidblyton11 accounts, an alternative narrative of a psychotic troll coming back for more actually made more sense. My ability to research the situation was sorely limited by having been traffic shaped by my ISP (a common situation in Australian when one downloads over the limit one has paid for), otherwise I may well have come to the same conclusion on my own. Orderinchaos 12:00, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
i wouldn't go as far as harrassment, but the optics are awful. when you have deletions of uploaded images, it looks like selective enforcement & wolf pack. far better to go to a third party admin to coach the editor; after all he is showing good faith. while i'm not a fan of tip toe up to the line, he does make a point: now that the can of worms of editing political speech on user pages is open, what are the guidelines for how much and how formatted? what is extensive? are extensive referenced quotes allowed? are quotes from article talk; deletion discussions? etc. could it be ok as an essay? a consensus would just look better. i am having a hard time understanding why all the wiki energy is expended on user space rather than article space. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:26, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

question

Hi there User:GorillaWarfare, are you open to recall as an admin? --Surturz (talk) 09:54, 1 August 2011 (UTC)