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| == Thanks for the template:pmid advice == | |||
| Thanks for the template:Cite pmid advice! I could see what it was doing. And now I know about cite doi as well as a few others I am less likely to need. I also needed to fix a few minor bugs in the citations that I had entered. Definitely cool! ] (]) 22:15, 7 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :Makes generating citations a whole hell of a lot easier than it once was. I'm just surprised there's no {{tl|cite isbn}}. You may also be interested in , incredibly useful, uses the number or isbn to automatically generate a citation template for you; the most useful if you have a pubmed or ISBN. Used to be my favourite citation generator until {{tl|cite pmid}} showed up. ] <small>] ] Misplaced Pages's rules:</small>]/] 23:08, 7 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| == Marshall Protocol == | |||
| {{divhide|I'm uninterested in this. ] <small>] ] Misplaced Pages's rules:</small>]/] 20:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)}} | |||
| WLU - you may or may not recall some edits that I had proposed some time ago, regarding the Marshall Protocol. Originally, the article read more as an endorsement, but after your revisions, was fine. However, I now notice that some significant re-edits have been made by proponents of the protocol. For example, references to Marshall's "hypothesis" appear to be presented as authoritative and peer-reviewed, but in fact are mentioned in a privately published book (i.e., Springer publishers). Another point of concern: the Marshall Protocol authors cite "physicians" as prescribing Benicar, leading to the inference that physicians may be routinely adhering to, and prescribing the protocol, when in fact, the vast majority do not---as it is not an approved FDA therapy. Thus, I think there are a number of issues here, but I'm not quite sure how to proceed with edits. So I'd appreciate if you could took a look? ] (]) 06:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :I'll sharpen my knives and have a gander. ] <small>] ] Misplaced Pages's rules:</small>]/] 12:47, 9 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks] (]) 14:24, 9 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::I'm pretty much done if you want to look. ] <small>] ] Misplaced Pages's rules:</small>]/] 14:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Looks fine. And I just corrected a few typos, so we should be good to go.] (]) 14:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| Just wanted to follow up and say, your commentary on what is, and is not appropriate (example: recent Marshall Protocol talk) is excellent and essential reading for any Wikipedian. I have learned much from these exchanges about what is, and isn't valid presentation per the very nuanced and necessarily, rigid guidelines of Misplaced Pages. As an advocate of alternative/complementary therapies, it took me a while to really assimilate this concept. And now, I use my own quick-reference guideline when considering material for entry or editing: if it's not something you'd see in the ], or in a treatment brouchure in a board certified MD's office, it likely won't work in Wiki as an authoritative article, regardless of the ongoing experimental research that may be happening and that may seem groundbreaking. (Yet, this concept is often difficult for contributors to grasp). Perhaps one of these days, you might do an instructive article on this very subject as per the flavor of a ] etc.? Just a thought ] (]) 18:26, 12 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| : NOTE: there appear to be two current articles on "Trevor Marshall." One contains the recent BLP revisions with all references to the protocol and his theory trimmed out or deleted. But the other, also entitled "Trevor Marshall" consists of the most recent revisions to the original page, complete with the references to lack of secondary sources, clinical trials etc. More confusing (to me at least), when you enter a Misplaced Pages search for "Marshall Protocol," you are re-directed to a 'Trevor Marshall' page. I know that a new revision has been proposed just dealing with the 'protocol' so I'm a little confused as to why the two articles, same name? Should I change the second article title to 'Marshall Protocol' or is the entire article an oversight? ] (]) 15:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ronsword, before you make any more edits to the Bio, would you like to declare any potential conflicts of interest? Are there any relevant contracts you or your spouse may have signed with potentially hostile third parties, perhaps ? ] (]) 15:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::''What'' are you talking about? And what is meant by: 'relevant contracts signed with potentially hostile third parties'? Please explain so I might possibly put you at ease. Also, you might be better served response wise, by expressing your concerns on my talk page(]) ] (]) 16:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::::There can't be two pages called ]. You may be seeing different versions of the same page. If you can link me to both, I may be able to sort it out. The reason you are redirected from ] to ] is because it ''is'' a ]. Redirects are not perfect, it may be that we're better off with one page about Marshall and a second about the protocol, or perhaps we delete both as failing ]. | |||
| ::::Trevmar, your accusation is ] and ]. You have a definite ], Ronsword does not (that I've seen). Often editors who are skeptical or add critical commentary to pages are accused of having a bias. Sometimes they do, sometimes it's just that the person accusing them of bias has their own bias that blinds them to how a page ''should'' be edited according to wikipedia's guidelines. That appears to be what is occurring here. You sought outside input, and it ended up pretty much agreeing with my opinion. Such is the breaks. See ]. ] <small>] ] Misplaced Pages's rules:</small>]/] 19:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I made no accusation, I made no assumptions, I asked a direct question. The question had nothing to do with Ronsword's editing. The answer was no, and that is now on the public record, so I accept the answer. ] (]) 19:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Revision as of 19:45, 15 August 2011
| Please note that I usually don't do e-mail; if it's about wikipedia use my talk page. |
| If I judge it requires discretion, I'll contact you. This is tremendously one-sided. I assure you, I feel terrible about it. Really I do. |
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Over 45K
Hi WLU,
In X!'s Edit Counter, for users such as we, "Top Edited Articles are disabled for users with over 45000 edits."
But not for you. Your edit breakdowns are active.
Which magical power did you use? Varlaam (talk) 16:36, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- No idea. My edit count is just over 45,000 (45,155 as I check now) and it could be that the difference is due to my deleted edits. I know I've got at least a couple hundred. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 17:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps that's it.
- I did "speak" to X some time back, by the way:
- Since that legal case, or complaint, or whatever, the edit breakdown has been disabled automatically for everybody. You have to be pretty experienced to re-enable it, and few have.
- Therefore I argued that the +45K group should get the feature back, if they want it, since virtually no one else has it active nowadays.
- Fell on deaf ears, or something.
- I like it; it gives you a decent idea of what the editor is expert at, or very interested in at any rate.
- Mine's disabled, otherwise you would know that I'm really interested in the Care Bears, and My Little Pony. (Joke.)
- Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 04:16, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- 45K edits? When do you have the time dude? Seriously, none of your edits are two words. They're like dissertations. Hahahah.OrangeMarlin 19:13, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- S'not my fault my talk page comments have more in common with Bronte than Hemingway. In my mind, the problem is no-one seems to read or understand my posts so I have to explain them in minute detail. Now, what reality says about the situation... WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 20:29, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- 45K edits? When do you have the time dude? Seriously, none of your edits are two words. They're like dissertations. Hahahah.OrangeMarlin 19:13, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
FYI - ANI
hI, your contributions have been mentioned at ANI - Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#The_Bio_about_me_keeps_accumulating_demeaning_and_Defaming_material - thanks Off2riorob (talk) 01:06, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I just checked the history on Trevor Marshall and JIMBO HIMSELF has edited the page. Now I can retire. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 10:16, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't get involved in that travesty, until I saw your name on ANI. I'm still amused that Off2riorob made the comment that I wasn't in Trevor's league. I think I graduated into the major leagues of medical research 25 years ago, and am ready for the hall of fame, based on my batting average, RBI's and stolen bases. LOL. OrangeMarlin 19:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, but there will be an asterisk. Because of the steroids. MastCell 19:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- There has been no proof of that vicious rumor. I stand by Barry Bonds, my bro. OrangeMarlin 19:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, but there will be an asterisk. Because of the steroids. MastCell 19:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't get involved in that travesty, until I saw your name on ANI. I'm still amused that Off2riorob made the comment that I wasn't in Trevor's league. I think I graduated into the major leagues of medical research 25 years ago, and am ready for the hall of fame, based on my batting average, RBI's and stolen bases. LOL. OrangeMarlin 19:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- What causing trouble again! :) I read the section, you continue to keep up your good work. When you get time drop me an email. I got out of the hospital, again, last Weds. That makes three visits, soon I'm going to get a room with my name on it permanently. Went in for the same reasons, infections and bronchitis with no oxygen level. I think 911 might be getting tired of me, what do you think? ;) In case you didn't notice I was leaving this project. I had blanked my user page and was close to blanking my talk page and saying good bye for good. I know I've done this before but this time I am being trolled by an expert troll that no one knows how to stop. Isn't that wonderful, not. I am going to stick around a bit longer to see what happens but I need to know what good I can do at this point. So an email telling me what good this project does and I guess a pep talk would be helpful. I had some wonderful emails sent to me though that I still need to respond to. I was first responding to an administrator which I am sorry to say didn't go as well as I hoped it would. Anyways, send me one and will catch up on things. You should be a home owner by now if my timing is correct. I hope to hear from you soon. Take care all of you, --CrohnieGal 22:54, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- I kept thinking I hadn't heard from you in a while. I'll send you an e-mail, I just hope it doesn't lead to an accusation of off-wiki collusion, like last time :) WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 23:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Off-Wiki collusion sounds like a euphemism. :) CG, I hope all is well. I got back into editing here while sitting on a hospital bed. I had nothing better to do. :) OrangeMarlin 06:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- I kept thinking I hadn't heard from you in a while. I'll send you an e-mail, I just hope it doesn't lead to an accusation of off-wiki collusion, like last time :) WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 23:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- What causing trouble again! :) I read the section, you continue to keep up your good work. When you get time drop me an email. I got out of the hospital, again, last Weds. That makes three visits, soon I'm going to get a room with my name on it permanently. Went in for the same reasons, infections and bronchitis with no oxygen level. I think 911 might be getting tired of me, what do you think? ;) In case you didn't notice I was leaving this project. I had blanked my user page and was close to blanking my talk page and saying good bye for good. I know I've done this before but this time I am being trolled by an expert troll that no one knows how to stop. Isn't that wonderful, not. I am going to stick around a bit longer to see what happens but I need to know what good I can do at this point. So an email telling me what good this project does and I guess a pep talk would be helpful. I had some wonderful emails sent to me though that I still need to respond to. I was first responding to an administrator which I am sorry to say didn't go as well as I hoped it would. Anyways, send me one and will catch up on things. You should be a home owner by now if my timing is correct. I hope to hear from you soon. Take care all of you, --CrohnieGal 22:54, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- OM, I don't know if you remember me but we used to chat ocassionally. I am glad you decided to return. Too many scientific editors have been banned lately I'm sad to say. I actually stopped watching a bunch of articles because of this too. So welcome back. WLU and I talk to each other a lot about all kinds of things. WLU, I look forward to hearing from you again and yes hopefully we won't be accused of collusion since we usually don't talk about this site when we do email each other. Now don't forget the pep talk that I really need. I also looked at the AN/i discussion, what a bunch of bull that was. You both take care. OM I hope your hospitalization wasn't an emergency type situation. I heard differentt reasons for your leaving and your return and you being in the hospital wasn't one of them. Well I'm off to go lay down and get some rest again. I'm getting tired of being tired all the time. :) Be well both of you, --CrohnieGal 13:32, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- How could he not remember you, you're delightful!
- OM, the short of it is a paranoid dipshit thought that since I mentioned I would be e-mailing Crohnie about a completely unrelated matter, that meant we were conspiring against the account. It was almost amusing as it was annoying. And stupid. You would have loved it. But no euphemism, we mostly just chat about medical stuff and our personal lives - the kind of thing that we have policies against on wiki :) WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 14:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- There are paranoid dipshits on Misplaced Pages? Imagine that. I'm shocked. I'm gobsmacked. I'm flabbergasted. Astonished. Astounded. LOL. Apparently my teenage humor got lost. Yes, Chrohnie, I remember lots of interactions. When I came back, I actually spent time looking at articles I used to watch. Lots of mess, not only pseudoscience, but bad mistakes. Lots of good science editors are gone, some just don't have the energy to fight the wars.... OrangeMarlin 15:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds like you'd enjoy the sadly moribund Citizendium, which actually respects expertise (to a certain extent, that project has been poisoned by pseudoexperts and I'm sure Trevor Marshall would get a more-than-fair hearing), and would support Raul's also moribund WP:CPUSH. If CPUSH had been pushed forward into policy (extremely unlikely, it would probably be akin to a paradigm fracture) then quackery would get much, much less play. It's not even really necessary - if we could simply say "prove it with explicit reliable sources" then block or topic ban the accounts that keep pushing despite that lack, most of the problems would go away. Instead, we grind editors through the sausage factory. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 16:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- There are paranoid dipshits on Misplaced Pages? Imagine that. I'm shocked. I'm gobsmacked. I'm flabbergasted. Astonished. Astounded. LOL. Apparently my teenage humor got lost. Yes, Chrohnie, I remember lots of interactions. When I came back, I actually spent time looking at articles I used to watch. Lots of mess, not only pseudoscience, but bad mistakes. Lots of good science editors are gone, some just don't have the energy to fight the wars.... OrangeMarlin 15:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- OM, I don't know if you remember me but we used to chat ocassionally. I am glad you decided to return. Too many scientific editors have been banned lately I'm sad to say. I actually stopped watching a bunch of articles because of this too. So welcome back. WLU and I talk to each other a lot about all kinds of things. WLU, I look forward to hearing from you again and yes hopefully we won't be accused of collusion since we usually don't talk about this site when we do email each other. Now don't forget the pep talk that I really need. I also looked at the AN/i discussion, what a bunch of bull that was. You both take care. OM I hope your hospitalization wasn't an emergency type situation. I heard differentt reasons for your leaving and your return and you being in the hospital wasn't one of them. Well I'm off to go lay down and get some rest again. I'm getting tired of being tired all the time. :) Be well both of you, --CrohnieGal 13:32, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Wound dehiscence
You might be interested in taking a look at wound dehiscence, since it also touches negative pressure wound therapy. Regards, W n C? 15:12, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Given the treatment section was unsourced, I am reluctant to leave it in place and have removed it per WP:PROVEIT. It needs more sources in general, I'm seeing what turns up on google books and will try to expand with better sources. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 17:37, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Just basically rewrote most of it, have a look. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 18:04, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
BLP Copyedit request
Hey, I did some work on an Egyptian activist. It's my usual comprehensive, carefully paraphrased, quote-farmy c-class work. Want to give it a look over? DYK should be up in a few days.... Kamal_Abbas Ocaasi 02:03, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'll give it a proofread. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 23:59, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
August 2011
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Paraphilic infantilism. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
In particular, Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring states:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue edit warring, you may be blocked from editing. -- DQ (t) (e) 14:35, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
- Please see my latest comment at ANI , protecting the page does not resolve the central issue of a source being inappropriately cited. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 14:40, 15 August 2011 (UTC)